*Part 2 - **ukposts.info/have/v-deo/kKNhi4Wsi6WWx6s.html* | Ghostrunner, The Ascent, Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition, Crysis 2 Remastered, Far Cry 6, Doom Eternal 💻 *PC Specs - Buy on Amazon / Newegg* MSI RTX 3090 Gaming X Trio - geni.us/I0af AMD Ryzen 9 5950X - geni.us/UAowvMb MSI X570 Gaming Edge Wifi - geni.us/6jiSC G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB, 3600 CL16-16-16-36 - geni.us/nniU Enermax Liqmax III 360 - geni.us/eaU9l Streacom BC1 Open Benchtable - geni.us/9PgRsf8 🎮 *Games* 00:00 Control 01:01 Fortnite 02:28 Watch Dogs: Legion 04:02 Cyberpunk 2077

RTX : On Wallet : Gone

It's a technology that's going to take some time for developers to properly use in their games. A lot of examples are just turning everything into a mirror and exaggerating the amount of water in places, that's not necessarily realistic.

Of course the ray traced renders look incredible but some of the rasterisation only images are unbelievably close. Blows my mind how far we've pushed raster.

Raytracing = water turns into liquid mercury

RTX Off: Frames per second RTX On: Flames per second

Can't tell you how many times my reflection scared the crap out of me in Control.

Image difference is negligible but the drop in fps is unacceptable 😑

While retracing does bring a more natural feel to games, I honestly could argue it looks hyper-real over actually real. The wet surfaces demonstrate this perfectly. While they would reflect like a mirror, it would not be as well defined as what rtx is displaying. Even completely still water would not show a perfect reflection. I just think that rtx on is an extreme case of proper lighting while rtx off is the opposite. Games designers need to find that sweet spot in between both modes so that it will look closer to real life and not be as much off a butcher with frames.

Raytracing: waters cool... everything else: no

It looks over the top when compared side by side. But to be honest, without the RTX on, it is still very impressive and, at times it is difficult to understand if the game is being played with or without the RTX on. The only real thing is the water reflection. It is really unbelievable and hyper realistic.

Thanks for making this video!!! I think you have to have a keen eye for this if you’re not looking for reflections but it’s still spectacular seeing the details in the difference.

the difference is small but big at the same time. i think its more immersive in dramatic games.

Unless you're paying attention or look at two images side by side, it's really hard to notice.

you should've had added some close shots on some objects producing light like lamps, candles, etc. people only noticed the reflections because it was only the most obvious thing to notice. metro exodus has a lot of dark areas with small lighting objects. anyway, nice vid.

BENCHMARKS, just a tip: Try to have more moments when the camera and character are still, so we can pause the video and use the 5 sec. button to quick switch, back and forth, between versions. Thats a good way to pay attention to the detais.

You should also keep in mind that SSR can only mirror what is on the screen, if you look down a bit everything is gone. thats why real time is the only way to do that

My only issue with raytracing is that it still kills fps even when raytraced reflections aren't on screen

spectacular, value video, thx mate

Great video,thanks for the work!

I think the biggest improvement with raytracing is not reflections but global illumination. In scenes lit primarily from sunlight there is a subtle but noticeable change in the way the ground is lit that make the scene feel much more natural and rea.

I think that in addition to being a graphic advance, by the way it embraces the marking, for example, in the case of Cyberpunk, I think that the reduction of reflections (not to say total disappearance) on the water is intentionally exaggerated, and that when seeing the comparison you feel super tempted to have that feature, if you don't have an NVIDIA card, buy it yes or yes, maybe I'm wrong, maybe not.

I was gonna do a similar video showing off JUST Cyberpunk and call it ‘Framerate ON vs Framerate OFF’

One of your coolest videos, love the music too!

I was expecting to be more impressed than seeing a couple of extra reflections. I honestly wouldn't miss any of it. Hardly worth breaking the bank for.

Looks good, still not as good as what I expected given the neverending fuss about Ray Tracing.

I think ray tracing is good for lighting effects and reflections on glass surfaces. Other surfaces seems to be excessive.

the combination of psycho ray tracing and ultra screenspace reflection of just lit. The beauty of nightcity in its true form.

I think a 50/50 split of live action might work better. RT does not appear to be a big enough improvement to be worth the performance hit. I would need to see it side by side and so far it clearly isn't night/day improvement. Maybe in time and next GPU in a couple more years.

It takes time to optimize and competently implement this technology. In many games with active ray tracing you just get -30-50 fps and nothing else

Similar to what hdr did to games. Everything is ridiculously colorful now. With ray tracing everything is like polished mirror that reflect 100% light back 😅 can you dial rtx down with pc? Or is it more like on off feature?

6:50 wow I never knew ray tracing effected things like that. The smoke actually lingering instead of just evaporating quickly

In Watch Dogs it actually made a pretty nice improvement. Really hope to see the first game that uses a pathfinder render instead of rasterization, that's when we will see the big change.

I feel the RTX inpact more on Minecraft compared to other games.

good job my broo... can i doing the same thing if i use rtx 3050 + i5 12400f ? will be the same quality with this video..?? i prefer to rtx 3050 cause of lower TDP

Noticing better mirror reflections and some additions to graphics left out by reflections. But other than that not much of a difference in overall addition to graphics or graphic performance.

There's an impressive amount of mathematics that went into the lighting engine for this, I'm sure; however, aside from reflections, I don't see much improvement. I guess if we're trying to push the boundaries for as realistic as possible, this helps, but most games you move too fast to notice detail like this. It's only when you stop to really inspect the work that's been put into the graphics, that's when you'll notice it. We should be focusing more on trying to improve render times with high sample counts of polygons. It's basically what has kept graphics looking overall similar to how they were 5-10 years ago. The more realistic and higher-resolution textures get, the more space they take up and the longer it takes your CPU/GPU to calculate and project their image onto the screen. That's where efforts should be maintained - not necessarily doing reflection work. It's just the lowest-hanging fruit on the tech tree at this time. I remember when RTX first dropped, everyone was losing their shit over it, and not too many people even knew what it did. They just assumed it's some new graphical revolution and will make your games look better if you have an expensive card to handle it. There was a lot of flexing, too. If you didn't have the latest card that had RTX support, you were automatically a lower-class gamer. Most people weren't aware it's still very early and has a minor impact on most games' graphical fidelity. But market hype will hype, I suppose.

raytracing on -> everywhere puddles , puddles for everyone!

yo is Cyberpunk a good buy now? I've put off buying it since release not knowing how good of a purchase it would be back then and tbh now either, I have a RTX 3070, Ryzen 9 3900X could I at least enjoy the game at a reasonable quality if I were to buy it now?

finally, this was the video i was looking for...cheers!

Awesome video, the Ray Tracing looks super crisp and detailed but I feel like sometimes it overpowers the scene. I just hope that Ray Tracing does not become a pre-requisite soon and I do not think it will, because a video I watched from Nvidia themselves is that Ray Tracing and Rasterization is currently used in combination to give a better looking scene. It seems fully Ray Traced Rendering is still something of the future and even then it is not the most realistic/finished rendering method out there, with Path Tracing seeming like the closest to realistic, so I think I will probably upgrade to a Radeon RX 6000 at some point which has really good Rasterization and some moderate Ray Tracing capabilities.

Looks better with RTX off... Every shiny surface turn into a pure mirror, that's absolutly not realistic.

looks cool, if apply to use for like stealth/tactical-shooter games which you can 'use mirror/reflect to detect (or 'made') enemy etc. would be awesome and might be a must have maybe? but as for now and it's original prices no, and now crypto-mining mania then no-no-no-no-no. still. in game photography can go crazy and fun though.

Looks really nice, but i just dont get the appeal of cutting your Fps in half for some minor reflection buffs

Minecraft is still the best optimized Ray tracing on game ever, even without puting puddles everywhere, the other AAA game such a cyberpunk, control, metro Exodus, etc, was already have a good game engine that doesnt really need Ray tracing to boost their graphic quality by much

RTX: On Wallet: Gone PC: boom Hotel: Trivago

Most of the differences are not necessarily due to RT theoretically. E.g. 7:05 where RT on seems to have more fog thereby inducing soft shadows effect, which makes the scene more realistic. Soft shadows exist in rasterized solutions too, from long ago.

It’s great honestly, but I think it’s only really feasible if you have a 3090/80/2080 ti. Otherwise it’s more like a beta feature because most rtx GPUs are vram limited or do not perform well at 1440p. You can probably drop other settings or play at 1080p with other GPUs but as more titles come out, they are going to be more demanding, so unless you have these GPUs I mentioned,maybe you will be able to play one or two games max with some compromise then the GPU will not be powerful enough as time goes on.

RTX in Control : Fine RTX in Fortnite : Fine RTX in Watch Dogs Legion : Fine RTX in Cyberpunk 2077 : *Turns water into ray traced liquid metal*

Cool demo. I think Ray tracing looks better in every implementation, but Control is the only game of the bunch where I feel like you'd be really missing out without it enabled.

if there wasn't such a difference in performance it would be awesome. Otherwise i would always choose those extra frames instead (given that you have a high refresh rate monitor and equally capable gpu)

Just one question: People walking in bar without shadow is the effect of RT ON or RT OFF?

In some cases the overly shiny reflections with RTX ON make it less 'realistic'. Most times I can hardly consider RTX as an upgrade personally, but I am sure over time with RTX in mind, game developers will make it look a lot better.

RTX: Ok this floor is a mirror

Obviously, the biggest difference is going to be in reflections. Rather than having a rough estimate or a baked in reflection you’ll have real, 1-1 reflections. In shadows and in lights it’s not going to be as obvious unless it’s a side-by-side.

nice bench and very good music to keep the brain awake... a lot of other benchmarks make me want to sleep

I wish dev would have spend more time to make cyberpunk gameplay better and glitch free, because night city looks sooo beautiful

Should have also added fps counter too, which would tell you can get almost same graphics with rtx off and with much better fps

And how much is the video memory download?

I was thinking of upgrading to the RTX 3xxx line because of the ray tracing but after watching this and considering the games that I play, it's not worth it since my games don't have a lot of reflective surfaces/water and very little smoke. Don't get me wrong those things look great but I'd have pretty much no chance to appreciate them.

I don't really care about the difference with ray tracing shadows, and global illumination any game that has them available will more than likely already have pretty good rasterisation lighting and shadows anyway. But those RT reflections... 🤤🤤🤤

Well thanks. Look like all it does it mainly make water and glass look more like water and glass. Seems to be a lot more prominent in games like Cyberpunk and Watchdogs, but I don't play those games. Fortnite had some improvement but I'm not playing that to stare at the water. This helped me solidify my decision. Going with the 6900xt for now and upgrading to an ray tracing card when prices become more reasonable. Maybe 5-10 years down the line when RTX tech really becomes impressive.

The watter in CB2077 looks very GOOD :O

Imo Control has the best ray tracing implementation -- the sharp crips reflections add so much to the environment & it does it all without significant impact to frames.

Honestly I had to look up this video because I couldn't tell the difference from turning it on and off in Cyberpunk. Well, other than the frame rate of course.

Happy new year BFG

I feel like the murky reflection in cyberpunk actually matches the atmosphere of the futuristic polluted city.

Ray tracing is good if you prefer a good appearance gameplay, since it is using ray tracing similar to how light works in real life, and because of that, you will get the best and most realistic output, it doesn't matter if you don't like the reflection, some people complain that it looks like a mercury, but if you really think about it, that is how water looks like in real life, especially in 4:28, you can see the obvious difference of real water reflection compare to RTX off.. RTX off on the other hand will still looks goog, but it will depend on the person (developer designer of the game) who adjust the lighting manually. For short, RTX OFF is an artificial lighting effect while RTX ON is tracing of how light reflects naturally just like in real life. Thanks for the video, very good comparison...

Brilliant video!

Ray tracing... Traces a beam of light through bounces and refraction from every light source in the game...the camera captures some of those rays... Path tracing... Traces a beam of light from the camera through bounces and refraction to the original light source... Because you are tracing a lot less rays.. The performance cost is minimal... Negligible difference in quality.. Massive difference in performance...

Rasterization and shaders have gotten so good over years of game development that once ray tracing became available to the average consumer, it didn't make as much of an impact. It does improve on atmospheric effects and shadows which is good in cinematic games, but for the performance cost and the actual price of ray tracing enabled cards it doesn't make much sense to make ray tracing the norm.

I'd like to just say I really love the music from this vid.

Excellent scenes

4:12 all i can see in that water reflection is my wallet crying from just buying the 3090.

Reflections and light scattering are on another level

So basically it makes reflections on the floor, especially on water/puddles, look brighter and more detailed.

If this is raytracing, what does "reflection quality" option do? I'm confused.

I think wet things look absolutely fantastic nowadays. Like wet roads and wet people and cars etc...the thing is though, the interaction differences with wet atmosphere is still lacking. Like proper splashes and footprints and puddles etc. Being wet is still very much just a skin and not a state.

so its a Reflection feature? could just say so. im so confuse

2:50 I didn’t know RTX added stuff in

the screen space reflections in these modern games are already so good that rtx feels obsolete

People who don't see differences need to check their eyes...

Which one is which lmao. I am having a hard time. I have astigmatism so I have issues with reflections in general. Maybe you should designated the clips RX on and RX off. I can’t tell the difference most times.

Great comparison, great video

CDPR relied too much on the Ray Tracing when it came to water surfaces. Without it, the water just looks straight up unfinished or bugged. Oh well.

Was psycho settings used for Cyberpunk 2077 RT?

Great work but only problem where can get the RTX card for the reasonable price?

System ressources with and without RTX would have been intreresting too.

I hate that many games aren't taking full advantage of Ray Tracing, it seems that developers think it's only for reflections and they try to go overboard with it, it's supposed to make all the lighting much more realistic, not make everything shiny...

Raytracing is a huge turn on😏. However can also appreciate a handmade lighting, It takes a lot more times to place the lights but you have greater control on what you place and how you do it. For more artistical games Raytracing can sometimes hurt the intentions.

reflections is most noticable thing. but with current gpu prices price for rt is too high

was gran turismo one of the first to use enviromental reflections +

RTX ON = -50FPS and slightly better reflections...

Ray Tracing: For when the surfaces just aren't quite reflective enough.

The difference is slight. Like HD going into 4K.

this new technology is like VR, awkward at launch but given time is a must-have

Love it without raytracing . 100fps real resolution

It just keeps proving to me that raytracing is not even close to worth it for the amount of hardware it needs

I dont see any differences. The colors are a bit darker with rtx on? 🤔

Damn that looks good, came here because I was reading a textbook on computer science from a couple years ago, and it stated that ray tracing was still off limits for games, and look at us here :D