Frederick Wrigley of course he is! His philanthropic and scientifically driven movement has been shunned by major corporations in the interest of greed for years.

So your saying not to use GNU than, because Richard Stallmans OS/Operating System is one big vulnerability; Yes I'm a programmer, and yes I could do something about these problems, but normal people, that dont use VPNs and that dont know how to read the source code, in GNU, that anyone can access, and change/add malware,adware, track-ware/who knows what; anyone such as the Government,Google/UKposts/Android,Apple,Amazon,Facebook,Hackers/Who knows who; This is the issue with Richard Stallmans ideas, he doesn't want to use certain programs/firmware/java script/phones, because hes afraid to be tracked/data mined by the government/Facebook,Google/android/youtube,Apple,Amazon and so on, but yet hes basically saying to all of these organizations to please alter my source code, I dont mind. His ideas are conflicting/they make no sense, and their basically pointless, he doesn't want to be tracked/mined, so he should get a VPN, and take other security measures, anyway none of what he says means anything/theres no point.

matt matthew You are obviously lying about being a programmer or are a beginner. The FOSS isn't just about "spies". Educate yourself before speaking on topics you know nothing about.

matt matthew, you're making no sense at all. How about you break your confused claims down to individual points, then I can show you where and how you're wrong.

In the altering of any code Stallman has written (or anything released under the GPL actually), the people modifying the code can ONLY re-release the software under the GPL, again making it entirely transparent. You'd be able to see what nasty additions somebody made to a piece of software, and thus avoid it.

Ga-nu-plas-linoox

lol slash the head of linux

Seriously, is it necessary to say the word "slash".

gnu/linox, he pronounced gnu right

@@cosmeFulanito32123 YES IT IS SLASH ALWAYS WILL BE

They never understand bro. don't even waste your time mentioning it.

By default, GNU/rms releases opinion pieces such as what he said here under a clause of "Copyright (c) X-X Richard Stallman Verbatim copying and redistribution of this entire page are permitted provided this notice is preserved."

Subtle interjecting for a moment

Linux the Kernel VS "Linux the OS" e.g. a Linux distribution, Sherlock

+kefsound Thank you, Watson, for illustrating that so elegantly. Besides the fact that RMS is known far and wide to reject the usage of the term "Linux the OS", or even Linux distribution without prefixing it with GNU/. The UKposts comments needs more people like you to keep us informed. ;-)

Stallman is an idiot in that respect.

Funny. I thought he was referring to Linux the lunchbox.

@John Rokes owo

I'm a programmer, and yes I could do something about these problems, but normal people, that dont use VPNs and that dont know how to read the source code, in GNU, that anyone can access, and change/add malware,adware, track-ware/who knows what; anyone such as the Government,Google/UKposts/Android,Apple,Amazon,Facebook,Hackers/Who knows who; This is the issue with Richard Stallmans ideas, he doesn't want to use certain programs/firmware/java script/phones, because hes afraid to be tracked/data mined by the government/Facebook,Google/android/youtube,Apple,Amazon and so on, but yet hes basically saying to all of these organizations to please alter my source code, I dont mind. His ideas are conflicting/they make no sense, and their basically pointless, he doesn't want to be tracked/mined, so he should get a VPN, and take other security measures, anyway none of what he says means anything/theres no point.

Richard stall man doesn’t seem like the type to sue over copyright.

@@pspvita99 where do you get your glue from

There's nothing in the free software movement that objects to charging for software.. So what's your complaint?

That isn't correct you are allowed to charge a fee when distributing the binaries you are not allowed to charge a fee for the source code, nor are you allowed to limit access to the source code with fees or any other restrictions.

Mamadou Diallo you wanna meet a paranoid man?

David G is he for u ? This man is the computer science Stéphane Hawkins

some people just wanna get to the hate ban... let him be

You may be surprised, unless you are a purist like him he is quite an asshole. Plus he keeps talking about Linux vs GNU/Linux, Libre rather than Open Source, he doesn't like Ubuntu, like, who in the world thinks those are important issues when we have so many more important things to talk about when it comes to open source vs proprietary software? Yet he spends so much time on petty definition/naming disputes it's ridiculous. As long as the FSF does nothing but try to make people use different words nothing is going to change.

As a free tip: Never adore anyone. Just listen and decide what is good. Follow their examples when you see fit but never think about a human being being flawless, or you'll end up burned up. Burned up people tend to end being the opposite of what they really believe.

FLOSS = Free (gratis) , Libre (freedom) , OS (Open Source) , S (Software)

I agree, when I heard this my heart sank, I don't think we can trust Microsoft. I'm sure they're not doing it out of altruism! Engulf and devour is more their motto! There are going to be some nasty suprises in store for us along the line, I fear.

Art McTeagle don't be an idiot. Ms heavily invests in linux since the desktop platform is rapidly shrinking.

List of mergers and acquisitions by Microsoft: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Microsoft You're very naive to think Microsoft is doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. Do some research fanboy, before you insult people.

Art McTeagle even stallman said this is a first step, wouldn't call him a naive ms fanboy

@Henrik dude have you read about EEE Strategy ??

Nothing has a cost to produce, you can live off the government and everything should be free, as in free beer!!! Also _real_ communism has _never_ been tried before.

I am not sure if you are being sarcastic. My guess is that you are. It has been tried. Without incentives, economic systems result in economic collapse, usually followed by tyranny, because people who feel they are being taken advantage of are willing to do horrible things to their neighbors who they feel are freeloading.

Re-watch, the interviewer said "mmhmm" but Stallman didn't stop talking, it's 1 coherent sentence. He just said that the people who coined the term "OSS" have done the free software movement a lot of harm.

MrSlowestD16 ..."the people who coin the term open source, as a reaction against right free software movement"... thats what I hear but its difficult to tell cause the mike of the interviewer is too loud

Exactly. Richard is ahead of his (our) time... Way ahead.

;) Yep-we know what buttons to press! Agree or not, gotta give it to him though, he sticks to his principles.

+You, it seems you don't understand the difference. Read first, judge later.

As it should be. Free

@@joshuajones353 Can you understand the concept of 'free software'? And why software should be free?

@@mari2. Encoders can be open source, but h264 itself is neither and open nor free standard

Linux is and has always been a kernel, not an operating system. The very really vast majority of people (meaning more than 99% of people, which is a lot of people) who have heard of Linux, believe that it is an operating system, or even a collection of operating systems. I believe it's even marketed as such out of convenience. While in reality, it only comprises a small, albeit very important software component of a computer, namely the one that talks to the hardware. Therefore, against all presumption, I believe it is only fair that Richard imposes the title as he does here. (I actually remember asking my dad back in the day for the original linux operating system. The selection of distros we had in the early 2000s, even, was overwhelming to a ten year old. Imagine how it is now.)

No, it's not fair to call it GNU/Linux at all. First of all, there are many components that you need to run a Linux-based operating system ... and none of them appear in front of Linux as X/Y/Z/..Linux. Secondly, in some distributions there's hardly any GNU software left. There's much more other software. They don't demand their prefixes either, so why should Stallman be entitled to do so? Other than that, I greatly respect Stallman for his stances on free software, privacy, religion ...

free as in freedom not money. it is totally okay to make paid software but respect the user's freedom.

@@Abdo-bm4jx i know that... I know what i said, my point was that it is hard to monetize foss software and can't be done at all in a lot of cases.

TFiR I did not blow my lid. I was just commenting on the fact that Stallman does not say much about azure sphere. It's hardly even mentioned. 3 seconds in 3 minutes of video. s/clickbait/misleading

You must be joking. What do you want him to say, spiel about it? He didn't even know about it and he commented on it. Simple. Why is it misleading? This is the ONLY interview where Richard talked about it.

Swapnil Bhartiya "hey RMS, how are you?" "fine. Let me tell you about free VS open" "RMS talks about his health"

c'mon. Ok. I get it now. You succeeded in trolling me. Have a great day. (Note to self: never read comments. )

The problem with RMS is that instead of talking about what's asked he quickly switches to talk about open source vs free software. It was a VERY heated interview, with all hot parts removed from the full length one :)

But if someone hacks the source code of Windows and publish it (illegally), wouldn't Windows be then technically open source, because everyone could see the source code?

No.

Well technically, yes, but there's something to be said about the intent. The term "OSS" implies that intent exists for it to be OSS, so even if you illegally publish source code as "open", the intent was never there, so I wouldn't call it OSS.

A illegally published Windows-Code would neither technically turn Windows in to OSS, because it would be still illegal to publish it. Microsofts EULA would be the same as before. Studying the Windows-Code would still be illegall, publishing some Windows-Code in a book would still be illegal in a lot of countries... To be brief: That's not what OSS means.

What, how confused are you? You cannot have free software that is closed source! Freedom number one: "The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish. Access to the source code is a precondition for this." See gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Read before you speak.

Just Gnu-Lix...... Not hard to say, like Gnu and Lix

Gnulix is better then GNU + Linux.

>"free as in freedom not free beer" >thinks video and messages are software >>thinks nothing has a cost to produce >>>thinks everything should be free >okay goo.fy

> Doesn't realize free as in freedom is also free as in free beer >> Hasn't researched FSF enough to know they support all useful information being free

There's nothing non-free about charging for software.... Your definitions are broken, update your definitions :-P

A software maker can release the code (open source) and still place certain prohibitions on its use (not free). So, no, I don't think FOSS is an oxymoron. Slim Fat is an oxymoron, free and oss speak to two different, connected, but different things

or closed source

So your saying not to use GNU than, because Richard Stallmans OS/Operating System is one big vulnerability; Yes I'm a programmer, and yes I could do something about these problems, but normal people, that dont use VPNs and that dont know how to read the source code, in GNU, that anyone can access, and change/add malware,adware, track-ware/who knows what; anyone such as the Government,Google/UKposts/Android,Apple,Amazon,Facebook,Hackers/Who knows who; This is the issue with Richard Stallmans ideas, he doesn't want to use certain programs/firmware/java script/phones, because hes afraid to be tracked/data mined by the government/Facebook,Google/android/youtube,Apple,Amazon and so on, but yet hes basically saying to all of these organizations to please alter my source code, I dont mind. His ideas are conflicting/they make no sense, and their basically pointless, he doesn't want to be tracked/mined, so he should get a VPN, and take other security measures, anyway none of what he says means anything/theres no point.

And how does that matter?

Because windows is not FOSS. He says he wants more people to use free software. Azure Sphere OS encourages the opposite. Not to mention the whole EEE strategy that's most likely still at at play here.

1) It's a positive step that Microsoft is *using* Linux in their commercial product. The Linux community is rejoicing that. 2) Developer need Windows to write for that product is irrelevant as Microsoft may extends support for Linux, depending on how much demand comes from developers. If there are developers using Linux desktop to write for Edge, MS will do that. Simple. 3) I don't see EEE anymore as Linux is becoming core of Microsoft, they can't extinguish something that's their foundation. Also if you understand how 'Open Source' really works, you won't talk about EEE. Open Source CAN'T be extinguished. It's can't. That's the very heart of this beast :)

Wow... that's some very optimistic views you have there. I'd go so far as to say blindly so. But I do hope you're right, and that this ends up being a good thing.

It's not optimistic or blind. It's based on facts around how Open Source works. Can you explain *how* Microsoft will *extinguish* Linux? I am open to discussion, please explain.

that's because you are mistaking people with companies. But it is hard to see when doctrine is embedded in you.

TFiR I know something that is free, the air is free! Please stop breathing our free air that no one will be selling you (as air is free and not sold) as you die of suffocation. Enjoy your video that no one will watch all by your lonesome.

Milos Djeric what’s your problem? Why you think everything should be free of cost. I had talked to Richard and he has always been OK with charging for work. In fact FSF itself endorses charging for free software and these are creative work which ar different form software. So please calm down and educate yourself.

Milos Djeric that said you sound totally clueless as the video was made available free of cost. So once again, educate yourself before you open your mouth. I have done much mote to promote free software that you ever would and as an active open source advocate I despise people like you who give open source bad name bu equating free software with free of cost stuff. I wish there were more well educated people in open source world and less like you.

FLOSS seems more convenient

_*libretarian_

david esktorp 👏💯😁

I am very well aware as I write about Open Source. That said Richard didn't know and this is the FIRST time Microsoft is releasing any product, real shipping product, that's running on Linux. So it made sense to ask Richard. Please Google before accusing someone of not being informed. :)

Swapnil Bhartiya I stand corrected. Apologies, makes sense now.

TBH, I love the work Microsoft is doing. I am here at KubeCon and interviewed two awesome folks from Microsoft. I like them now because they have started doing a lot of good work in this space. But most of their open source work is in Azure space.

Swapnil Bhartiya It can only be a good thing. Happy to have more competition in the Kubernetes space. I love the direction that Satya Nadella has taken Microsoft.

Yes, I met and interviewed Brandan Burns, one of the co-founders of Kubernetes. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/bGd-fq6rbnp02mw.html

He's talking about freedom not about money, free as in freedom, Libre Software, such software can be sold, there's nothing that says that you should not get paid for writing Libre Software........

He thinks if people really like the software they will buy it from you, irrespective of whether or not you have the software available for them to build it yourself. Of course he's wrong, but 'meh', what can ya say.

I don't get it either. Who's gonna pay for something that can be downloaded or compiled from source for free. Is this some kind of communism or something 🙄

How the hell do you expect people to pay for software that they can just build for themselves? RMS lives in a fucking fantasy world. Free software doesn't work apart from the rare case. It's all well and good being able to read the source behind a piece of software but at the end of the day I still need to put food on the table and Free Software doesn't provide that.

it's not unix

You’re correct, Stone Skull, it’s not. But it has 99% POSIX compliance (except whenever Linus and his maintainers justifiedly chose to improve on POSIX’ shortcomings rather than re-implement them, warts and all), and above and beyond that almost perfect compliance, the LINUX ecosystem helped create so much more around it. You can almost say Linux can be UNIX _and_ much, much more than UNIX. Then again, you could say that about macOS, Solaris, HP-UX, Irix, SCO Unix or other other flavors of UNIX.

It's still using a branch of the Linux kernel at the end of its day. That combined with many GCC utilities to form openSUSE makes it GNU/Linux. Sure, that's not to say that's ONLY what's there, but it describes the main components for sure.

How about Android? The name doesn’t even shows it based on Linux kernel. If Android is not called as Linux, GNU also. In fact, GNU/Linux still point out the kernel in their name. They could just called it “GNU” OS.

GANOOH SULASH LINACKS.

...I don't even know where to start...

lmao, oh man if you said that to his face his jimmies would be so rustled!