Rise of the Ronin - PS5 Tech Review - A Superb Action RPG... But Can It Sustain 60FPS?

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Developer Team Ninja returns once more with its excellent combat design - this time taking its in-house engine to the open road. Rise of the Ronin presents a huge landscape to freely explore, all built to suit PS5 as a sole platform target. However even with the dedicated PS5 development, the game's frame-rate has issues on all three of its modes - as Tom covers in detail.
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00:00 Sponsored by MSI QD OLED
00:36 Introduction
03:06 Visual Features
06:14 PS5 Performance vs Graphics vs Ray Tracing Mode Comparisons
10:13 Performance Mode FPS Test
11:43 Graphics Mode FPS Test
15:10 Ray Tracing Mode FPS Test
15:32 Analysis and Conclusion

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@MrSiloterio
@MrSiloterio Місяць тому
Whoa 900p for a PS5 only title? That's taking nostalgia a little too far 😭
@susangz
@susangz Місяць тому
Ryse has entered the chat
@100500daniel
@100500daniel Місяць тому
PS5 is too weak these days. even 60fps feels like shit after experiencing 144hz on pc.
@Luci2310
@Luci2310 Місяць тому
But a non Sony studio.
@Fafnir2000
@Fafnir2000 Місяць тому
​@@susangzryse is og xbox one game duh, that still looks good tier
@evostu7814
@evostu7814 Місяць тому
900p Thats good these days, alot of aaa games are now 720p.
@gaivscaesar
@gaivscaesar Місяць тому
Sub 1080p on a PS5 exclusive in 2024 is absolutely pathetic
@user-qg7oq6qw5c
@user-qg7oq6qw5c Місяць тому
Bullshit. Its upsampling. Ps5 pro games that will have min native res about 1080p you also will say its 1080 or you say its 4k with upsampling? Native res is useless.
@Lotherelle
@Lotherelle Місяць тому
​@@user-qg7oq6qw5cthe most funny part that it is 900p after upscaling already
@randyrrs7028
@randyrrs7028 Місяць тому
they should port this game to the ps3 while theyre at it
@Lotherelle
@Lotherelle Місяць тому
@@randyrrs7028 they are incompetent to do so. Real Sony's internal studio probably could port it to PS3
@mikeveenman9105
@mikeveenman9105 Місяць тому
If you think a ps5 can run 4k native then you should really do some more research😂
@abhirupsingh4004
@abhirupsingh4004 Місяць тому
Polished games are getting rare.
@jackkenny4194
@jackkenny4194 Місяць тому
That will happen as games get more and more technically complex
@Mesjach
@Mesjach Місяць тому
Honestly, we should just mentally add 2 years to every release.
@NotCharAznable
@NotCharAznable Місяць тому
@@jackkenny4194What is complex about this game? Or even Dragon’s Dogma 2? You fanboys will say anything. Lol
@jackkenny4194
@jackkenny4194 Місяць тому
@@NotCharAznable multiple npcs in one area, complex physics system, ray tracing, day night/cycle, not to mention the pawns in your squad. A lot of room for error in all of that
@jackkenny4194
@jackkenny4194 Місяць тому
@@NotCharAznable thanks for insulting me. That was dope
@MSDGAMEZ
@MSDGAMEZ Місяць тому
I remember Demons Souls looking so beautiful at the launch of ps5
@ryuaga
@ryuaga Місяць тому
Well the level architecture were originally designed with the ps3 in mind. Even with the graphics update, it's not going to compare at all to a open world game.
@leeroy1986
@leeroy1986 29 днів тому
It's 3D audio and good use of Dual Sense too.
@VishisTV
@VishisTV 15 днів тому
Hell even more relevant NiOh2 is better looking with better performance
@Nicholas_Steel
@Nicholas_Steel Місяць тому
Clearly in need of a 120Hz, 40FPS mode.
@MrMightyZ
@MrMightyZ Місяць тому
I’m the correcting Nerd guy so here I go (pushes glasses up the bridge of his nose); Um actually it’s a 120hz/40fps mode🤓
@GodSpeed9289
@GodSpeed9289 Місяць тому
"Ackthually"@@MrMightyZ
@videogamingfreak13
@videogamingfreak13 Місяць тому
Frame pacing issues would undermine a 40FPS option.
@MrMightyZ
@MrMightyZ Місяць тому
@@GodSpeed9289 😁
@supersardonic1179
@supersardonic1179 Місяць тому
It clearly needs to download more RAM
@fossilfern
@fossilfern Місяць тому
Team ninja the past 10+ years has had issues with their tech but their gameplay is just fantastic.
@radry100
@radry100 Місяць тому
If you're a masochist
@reshadegaming6285
@reshadegaming6285 Місяць тому
@@radry100This game can be made pretty accessible on its lowest difficulty. Heard a lot of people who don’t like hard games are really enjoying that.
@Dogsineed
@Dogsineed Місяць тому
I always felt like Nioh was a huge downgrade from even Dark Souls 2. Really bland level design and cheapo bosses.
@xtr.7662
@xtr.7662 Місяць тому
​​@@Dogsineedits better than all dark souls and demon souls in terms of gameplay design is totally different because its not a souls game its a ninja gaiden if you can understand
@AI-qd4vb
@AI-qd4vb Місяць тому
@@DogsineedCheapo bosses? They're orders of magnitudes better than anything From Software has ever managed to make.
@Tomiply
@Tomiply Місяць тому
1:44 Not just that it's 4 years later, it's also the fact that it was originally a PS4 game. 13:47 Btw, the ray-tracing chapters should start here in the viewfinder, but it's much later for some reason.
@Jack_Sparrow131
@Jack_Sparrow131 11 днів тому
Ghost of Tsushima was Triple-AAA game, which have more budget (to spend more $$$ on optimizing & polishing) Also, they used much stronger optimizations since PS4 console was weak at that time, so they done super high optemzations While in Rise of the Ronin, it's AA game & they did meh optemzations since they rely heavily on stronger PS5 hardware But overall, any Samurai game is welcome, might improve a little bit with updates (only time will tell)
@hababacon
@hababacon Місяць тому
900P for unstable 60 FPS? This generation has been a major disappointment.
@user-qg7oq6qw5c
@user-qg7oq6qw5c Місяць тому
Its not 900p. Its upsampling.
@hababacon
@hababacon Місяць тому
@user-qg7oq6qw5c They said it in the video my guy. It drops lower actually, but the presenter stated performance spends most of it time around 900P. Upsample or not, it's 900P.
@JigokuEyes
@JigokuEyes Місяць тому
Team Ninja's games always had a problem with resolution. The frame rate was good for Nioh and Wo Long. Felt like a perfect 60 fps. Rise Of The Ronin's frame rate is terrible.
@randyrrs7028
@randyrrs7028 Місяць тому
This gen is well disappointing, consoles struggling no way they can do any game with 4K native at 60fps then there’s raytracing which it simply doesn’t have the power to do
@Livekernalevent
@Livekernalevent 29 днів тому
And the game doesn't look impressive at all.
@benchandler7007
@benchandler7007 Місяць тому
They really need to upgrade their engine. Definitely isn't ideal for open world, as they've been able to hit 4k60fps on older Nioh titles. That being said, with a VRR tv, this runs super smooth for me and is an absolute blast to play.
@rabbyd542
@rabbyd542 Місяць тому
Didn't they make Wo Long as well? That game looked pretty good to me.
@benchandler7007
@benchandler7007 Місяць тому
@@rabbyd542 they sure did. That looked great as well but wasn't open world.
@rabbyd542
@rabbyd542 Місяць тому
@@benchandler7007 I had a pretty great time playing that with my friends.
@timholloway8821
@timholloway8821 Місяць тому
I just finished it and it was a good game but damn it looks bad with awful pop in and not so good graphics. Their engine is ASS!!
@regulator18E
@regulator18E Місяць тому
Ps4 nioh 2 had checkerboard, not true 4k and still nowhere near locked 60fps. Ps5 mode is 1800p PS5 4k mode isn't a locked 4k, it drops into the 1900's quite often Ps5 120fps mode is at 1080p and doesn't hold 120fps at all. Nioh games dont actually perform as well as you're remembering
@maxminy5634
@maxminy5634 Місяць тому
It’s crazy the level of optimization and performance first party vs third party get out of the consoles. I know team ninja is essentially AA and have like a 2-3 year turnaround for games, so that adds context. But still Spider-Man 2 runs locked at 60fps, has a higher base resolution, better upscaling, more and better RT. Such a vast difference. Even ghosts of Tshushima runs at essentially locked 60fps at 1800p resolution.
@itsalwaysdarkestbeforethes1198
@itsalwaysdarkestbeforethes1198 Місяць тому
Spiderman also cost so much money to make that sony issued a mandate afterwards capping all productions at $300 million moving forward lol - what they achieved isn’t sustainable
@maxminy5634
@maxminy5634 Місяць тому
@@itsalwaysdarkestbeforethes1198 I agree with that. That’s why I gave the context of team ninja being AA and game output is also much higher and cheaper. Just find it crazy how much the difference can be on the same hardware. It’s essentially just about dev time, talent and optimization. But obviously that comes with a cost. And I don’t disagree with team ninja’s financial and dev choices
@lilbabypimp3232
@lilbabypimp3232 Місяць тому
Ghost of Tsushima uses checkerboarding to reach 4k on PS5, but even so the pixel count of checkerboard 4k is twice the amount of pixels of 1080p and looks way cleaner than upscaling 1080p to 4k with FSR. Seems like an open world game was too ambitious for Team Ninja’s engine
@herpderp3622
@herpderp3622 Місяць тому
@@itsalwaysdarkestbeforethes1198 most of that budget was paying for licensing costs though. Marvel is bleeding Sony dry in that regard.
@astreakaito5625
@astreakaito5625 Місяць тому
The few dudes at insomniac working on engine and graphics are wizards, they shouldn't be considered the norm. However, TN's engine is just much worse than it should be.
@edh615
@edh615 Місяць тому
5:43 "Beautifully lit materials" shows the flattest interior lighting ever.
@fourtii8707
@fourtii8707 Місяць тому
Ikr..I find a lot of times digital foundry is just pulling random shits out of their asses to sound professional, it's a super pretentious vibe that's why most of their videos I just watch the beginning just to see what's going on because the titile or the thumbnail got me curious
@palekevo1935
@palekevo1935 Місяць тому
That looks miles better than dragons dogma 2 interior lighting, the hate on this game is ridiculous
@caio5987
@caio5987 Місяць тому
Or when he says “bustling town centres” 😂 They all look like ghost towns
@TheRedRaven_
@TheRedRaven_ Місяць тому
The entire game looks to have flat, unimpressive lighting so I'm really confused where that performance impact is coming from.
@jayg339
@jayg339 Місяць тому
Love DF, but theyve really been stretching the positive sayings I'm reference to some things in this video and Dragons Dogma 2
@ivofixzone6410
@ivofixzone6410 Місяць тому
5:20 RoR: Asset popin quite visible Dragons Dogma II: hold my beer.
@riceshot9981
@riceshot9981 Місяць тому
I'd honestly prefer pop in over CPU stutter in npc crowded cities
@KaizAmari
@KaizAmari Місяць тому
At this point, dev should add 40fps mode for those having 120hz monitor/tv as a sweet spot between 30fps and 60fps, especially if the gsme cannot sustain 60fps all the time,..i play RnC Rift Apart and playing most games on Steam Deck by setting up 40hz / 40fps and its amazing
@massimilianoporreca2594
@massimilianoporreca2594 Місяць тому
RnC is perfect 80/100 fps with ray tracing why play it at 40?🧐
@BigJugsRule92
@BigJugsRule92 Місяць тому
@@massimilianoporreca2594higher fidelity
@CoCo.-_-
@CoCo.-_- Місяць тому
@@massimilianoporreca2594 don't tell me you think your TV/monitor doing LFC to turn 40-50fps into 80/100fps is actual 80/100fps?
@izcondoralexander
@izcondoralexander Місяць тому
​@@massimilianoporreca2594my best bet because it was run on steam deck not desktop
@Tomiply
@Tomiply Місяць тому
Nah, I'd rather take 50-60fps in the performance mode on a VRR display. Give me them frames.
@playstation_loyalist
@playstation_loyalist Місяць тому
Thx for this. Appreciate the effort in making this video.
@anarfox
@anarfox Місяць тому
I feel a 40 fps mode in a 120 fps container would be a good fit for this game.
@ivofixzone6410
@ivofixzone6410 Місяць тому
Do you think the devs did not consider it? The close pop ins indicate the PS5 CPU is not good enough like Dragons dogma II. In other words very bad and old engine or lazy devs.
@TruTrae
@TruTrae Місяць тому
​​@@ivofixzone6410 No it's just an engine limitation, we saw the pop in issues in team ninja's previous games as well, it's just more noticeable in an open world game.
@chriswright8074
@chriswright8074 Місяць тому
Why just use free sync
@dystopiawanderer
@dystopiawanderer Місяць тому
@@chriswright8074 Because it dips below the freesync range.
@TheRedRaven_
@TheRedRaven_ Місяць тому
I feel like a PC release would be a good fit for this game.
@JobbyFraggle
@JobbyFraggle Місяць тому
Performance mode seems fine. I’m sure they’ll patch it up a little more in the coming months to smooth it out more. I feel like the game is selling well enough.
@bdre5555
@bdre5555 Місяць тому
I love the look of the snowy areas. But from what I've read, there isn't an open world region that has snow?
@khizarkhan7305
@khizarkhan7305 Місяць тому
this game and many other games look like last gen games but somehow still manage to give performance more similar to current gen games
@edh615
@edh615 Місяць тому
Totally agree, the presentation here looks ps3 almost in many places.
@12coco100
@12coco100 Місяць тому
@@edh615 It reminds me of AC4:Black Flag. It looks like a early ps4 game really
@RobIn-ky4uz
@RobIn-ky4uz Місяць тому
Witcher 3 looks better and smoother
@avocadopictures9706
@avocadopictures9706 Місяць тому
As always with their titles, gonna wait for a complete edition on PC. Usually pays off. Doubt it will help with that horse animation though, poor guy.
@IvanChristopher.
@IvanChristopher. Місяць тому
Yeah could be years though
@AndersLiljeblad
@AndersLiljeblad Місяць тому
@@IvanChristopher. Most certainly.
@jimmythegamer2231
@jimmythegamer2231 Місяць тому
​@@IvanChristopher. Sony is doubling down on PC, it will probably be a year and a half at best until we see this game on PC
@IvanChristopher.
@IvanChristopher. Місяць тому
@@jimmythegamer2231 hopefully, the more games on pc the better
@johnnysacrimoni2404
@johnnysacrimoni2404 Місяць тому
It’ll probably be awful
@lastking3185
@lastking3185 Місяць тому
Love this game. Its open world is formulaic but im ok with because i enjoy the combat so much.
@islandboy9381
@islandboy9381 Місяць тому
and thats how we get more boring open world slop, this game really could have just focused on the combat and not all this extra fluff that's clearly tanking the costs/performance.
@Mr_CopaceticGamer
@Mr_CopaceticGamer Місяць тому
@@islandboy9381 especially when it’s CPU and GPU limited On console and FSR is butchering consoles visually
@Walamonga1313
@Walamonga1313 Місяць тому
​@@islandboy9381And then what, they'll just make more Ghost of Tsushima or Horizon. So more open world garbage but without the good gameplay
@iiisixstringiii8285
@iiisixstringiii8285 Місяць тому
I absolutely love it for the combat, as well.
@islandboy9381
@islandboy9381 12 днів тому
@@Walamonga1313 no? because team ninja is actually good at core combat gameplay
@Dick_Valparaiso
@Dick_Valparaiso Місяць тому
I would be so hyped for a proper Ninja Gaiden sequel that retains the linearity. Even a slightly larger more hub based design could be doable. On top of the great gameplay just keep the image sharp and clean and the frame-rate locked. ...A true locked 120fps mode for Ninja Gaiden would be a dream.🙏
@sfmn2396
@sfmn2396 Місяць тому
It weird that they mention popins here but not in DD2 video lol
@TheDomLouis
@TheDomLouis Місяць тому
Dev should definitely lock to 40fps in Graphics and RT modes (assuming the detected display can handle it, otherwise stay as is) and fix the frame pacing in all modes.
@NatetheGr891
@NatetheGr891 Місяць тому
Totally disagree if you mean that you can unlock the frame rate. I would much rather meet high frame rates and have it drop occasionally, than be fixed to a lower one. Even now the game in graphics mode unlocked is at 45-52 fps, why would I want it to be at 40 because of the occasional drop?
@curtis9755
@curtis9755 Місяць тому
​​@@NatetheGr891 Consistency makes for a good experience as well. I would appreciate the option of having both.
@TheDomLouis
@TheDomLouis Місяць тому
@@NatetheGr891 I wasn't clear enough. Added more context to my post.
@lordaizen8004
@lordaizen8004 Місяць тому
I can say that pop-in on my PS5 was actually minimal. So much so that when he showed it on here I hadn’t really seen anything like that yet. I got the game on release as well. As far as the graphics go, I agree it is no Ghost of Tsushima. But it has a feel and beauty of its one once you allow yourself to be immersed into the story, characters, timeline and world. I usually play games with Graphics preferred because I LOVE how good the PS5 can look sometimes. That being said this game gives a sort of “film quality” when enhancing the image, but I actually didn’t like it. When I switched to Performance the entire game looked and played a lot smoother. ….TLDR; FOR ANYONE ON THE FENCE ABOUT THIS GAME I SAY DONT LET THE GRAPHICS DETER YOU. It really has been a fun game that I have played consistently since it came out. I can’t remember the last time I played a game as long of sessions as I have this one 😊👍👍. 4 out of 5 stars
@Nick_Lavigne
@Nick_Lavigne Місяць тому
vs Ghosts of Tsushima I feel this really shows the power and benefit of in house engine technology.
@renegeeder
@renegeeder Місяць тому
At this point it's all because of the developers, the PS5 is clearly powerful enough to do 60 fps, but these people have no idea how to optimize or limit themselves.
@PowerlightGG
@PowerlightGG Місяць тому
If the PS5 can run Horizon 2 in 60FPS without sacrificing too much quality, then yes the PS5 is clearly powerful enough to run Rise of the Ronin
@AJ-xv7oh
@AJ-xv7oh Місяць тому
These developers haven't got the talent to optimise. That's clear now.
@lilpain1997
@lilpain1997 Місяць тому
it can do 60 but its no way near as powerful as people think. Its a gimped 3700 which is showing its age on PC ( its also like what? 5 years old already? ) and a 2070 super to 2080 super depending on game... All of which are old and showing their age. I see some say 6700xt as well so its a toss up between wtf GPU is close in FPS.
@PowerlightGG
@PowerlightGG Місяць тому
@@lilpain1997 people seem to forget that this is a 500$ console.
@AnimeUniverseDE
@AnimeUniverseDE Місяць тому
@@AJ-xv7oh the entire industry is completely hostile towards a sustainable future. Like the CEO of Larian said, because of the layoffs you lose so much knowledge which leads to further unoptimized games
@Cha4k
@Cha4k 29 днів тому
Hahaha holy shit is that supposed to be Admiral Matthew Perry at 1:12 firing the pistol? That guys face is everywhere in Yokohama.
@krazykoolz88
@krazykoolz88 26 днів тому
DF -- I'm glad yall continue to be honest and direct in evaluations. This game absolutely does look like a PS4 game around half the time.
@Dravakar
@Dravakar Місяць тому
It's a very fun game. but i feel like, the engine might not be as well suited for an open world game. i do hope for a performance patch.
@alister101
@alister101 Місяць тому
Just what I was waiting for.
@hanwitargo
@hanwitargo 24 дні тому
I play on ray tracing mode with couple setting tweak, limit frame/motion blur/chromatic turn OFF. So far so good with very minimal frame drops 👌🏻
@timholloway8821
@timholloway8821 Місяць тому
That final difficulty is awesome!!
@GamingNightsNeoMasaki
@GamingNightsNeoMasaki Місяць тому
The combat and game system is what got me hooked. The graphics are good enough, if they get it to work in stable 40fps woulde be nice
@iiisixstringiii8285
@iiisixstringiii8285 Місяць тому
Combat alone had me hooked. Everything else is a bonus.
@AllstarBotzzyOnliner
@AllstarBotzzyOnliner Місяць тому
Im in act 2 now, the game is great. Very fun gameplay on hard and a good story aswell.
@terencecaron2922
@terencecaron2922 Місяць тому
comment section doesn't PLAY games tho, they count pixels and fps 😅
@charizardoreo
@charizardoreo Місяць тому
Honestly it does look like it could be a fun time for me
@apostolos8734
@apostolos8734 Місяць тому
@@terencecaron2922 If you didn't expect people to focus on that then why the fuck did you come to digital foundry?
@gotworc
@gotworc Місяць тому
​@@terencecaron2922it's just a bit underwhelming considering it's a PS5 exclusive lol
@gotworc
@gotworc Місяць тому
It looks like a PS4 game. Which is bad for being a PS5 exclusive ​@@terencecaron2922
@Dick_Valparaiso
@Dick_Valparaiso Місяць тому
Just like Ghost of Tsushima was forward thinking in it's peformance mode I think Rise of the Ronin is definitely targeting an easy trasition to PS5 Pro. With the extra gpu horsepower I can see the lower bounds being pushed to from 810p to 1080p then upscaled to a more 4K style image via PSSR. In the RT mode I wouldn't be surprised if Team Ninja could just toggle a few extra settings to on for a more robust RT image.
@Zenith0000
@Zenith0000 Місяць тому
Not every game has a whopping budget of 300 million +.... Am 30 hours in and loving the backdrop and story so far. This game is very deep in regards to it's mechanic and story telling... Cheers to Team Ninja!
@asphaltannihilator157
@asphaltannihilator157 Місяць тому
You don’t need 300 million dollars to polish in-game systems before moving on to the next feature. They chose to prioritize filling the game with assassin’s creed style filler content and an open world over making sure the game runs smoothly and with a level of polish worthy of $70.
@makavali-yb7xv
@makavali-yb7xv Місяць тому
I just cant get in to the game because of the terrible frame rate and framedrops. Even in performance mode smh
@timholloway8821
@timholloway8821 Місяць тому
Just finished and I'm with you I loved it. The graphics are really bad though and pop in is terrible.
@PeanutMike
@PeanutMike Місяць тому
Interesting, why do they charge $70 like the 300m budget huh? The hypocrisy
@Ronuk1996
@Ronuk1996 Місяць тому
Kingdom come had a budget of only 35 million and puts many open worlds to shame.
@marcgtsr
@marcgtsr Місяць тому
This horse animations are abismal!
@johnnysacrimoni2404
@johnnysacrimoni2404 Місяць тому
Abysmal
@minbari73
@minbari73 Місяць тому
*The
@johnwoesthoff2259
@johnwoesthoff2259 Місяць тому
Another person jumping on the hate train, it’s a good game people need to chill out everyone thinks they’re a professional critic these days.
@minbari73
@minbari73 Місяць тому
@@johnwoesthoff2259It can have abysmal horse animations and still be a good game.
@Uzura_Kagari
@Uzura_Kagari Місяць тому
Even Epona from Ocarina of time had better animations
@lordaizen8004
@lordaizen8004 Місяць тому
It’s not really exactly like Sekiro tho. I was playing that game to get ready for this one. I would say it’s even slightly different than Wo Long. There is actually a small window of time you have to deflect BEFORE the attack actually hits you. In Sekiro you deflect AS the attack hits you. It really does feel different in action too. Took some getting used to. As far as the back and forth goes it is slightly different as well. It definitely has very similar rhythms and timing, but the way depleted health increases stagger in Sekiro is one major difference. I haven’t tried Nioh yet but sorely need to. Deflecting is a big part of RotR, but it also has a “Blade Flash” technique that allows you to regain stamina after a swing by cleaning the blood off your sword. (Really cool in action). It’s more about just pressing your enemy and using combat styles that counter theirs, while deflecting when needed. The amount of combat styles and weapon types in this game can seem overwhelming at 1st but once you get into it, it’s AWESOME. You are encouraged to switch to weapons and styles on the fly, depending on your opponent’s weapon and style. After a little practice it becomes fairly intuitive and the controls can be pretty seamless. (Which to me is paramount in a game like this) TLDR; this game is its own thing and somewhat unlike Sekiro or Wo Long. While the open world wasn’t the “best” in execution, I found the story and its historical context to be very intriguing. Then you add SICK combat and an overall GENUINE atmosphere, and Rise of the Ronin is one of the best samurai/ninja titles I’ve had the pleasure of playing 😊 4 out of 5 stars ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@jeremymartin4558
@jeremymartin4558 Місяць тому
I think this sold me on it.
@islandboy9381
@islandboy9381 Місяць тому
This game should have purely focused on it's combat, the open world is mostly boring fluff slop that is obviously tanking the performance on team ninja's engine.
@ycbn4928
@ycbn4928 Місяць тому
dont compare Sekiro with this crap
@Bahamut3525
@Bahamut3525 Місяць тому
I wish they'd make a pure Shinobi Ninja game one day, and not Samurai.
@iiisixstringiii8285
@iiisixstringiii8285 Місяць тому
OK, now this guy GETS IT. 😎 Very well said.
@Youtube-Censorship-Police
@Youtube-Censorship-Police Місяць тому
i love the art design but the technical limitations are quite obvious, very reminiscent of from software titles in that regard. in the end, yeah some of the drawbacks like the unsteady fps, frame time problems and generally low res. are a bummer but i think the overall look can come up for the issues. though i still hope the performance problems get fixed eventually.
@MetalGod-id8st
@MetalGod-id8st Місяць тому
This generation has been weird
@nerevar8823
@nerevar8823 Місяць тому
Just like the one before it
@-........
@-........ Місяць тому
it looks like a last gen and current gen game at the same time
@harryorchris2980
@harryorchris2980 Місяць тому
Ik dude, the environments and textures look dated but the lighting and character models look good
@sinephase
@sinephase Місяць тому
It's on a 7nm AMD 180 watt APU, it was basically "last gen" when it was launched, like every other console
@greggski3710
@greggski3710 Місяць тому
​@@sinephaseso it was a next gen for a console
@-........
@-........ Місяць тому
@@sinephase this is not how console generations work
@Vsevolod3788
@Vsevolod3788 Місяць тому
It looks like a current gen game in its awful performance and image quality.
@vicentesalasii1480
@vicentesalasii1480 Місяць тому
Called it since announcement. Rise and DD2 were bound to be those types of ambitious mid-generational titles that would require a mid-generational console upgrade to really shine. Now that it appears as though the PS5 Pro is going to release as early as this holiday season or beginning of 2025, it all falls into place. That's also one of the reasons I believe Ubisoft scheduled the release of AC Codename Red for around February or March of 2025. They want it to be well optimized for the PS5 Pro at launch the way HZD and AC Origins were for PS4 Pro and XB1X. For their time, mind you. Back then, checkerboard rendering and dynamic resolution were state of the art technologies and it was considered a breakthrough for consoles to deliver a locked 30 fps with checkerboard or Dynamic 4K.
@AltCutTV
@AltCutTV Місяць тому
Nice that at least the frame lock is optional even for the graphics mode. It may not work great now on PS5, but it may one day. All games should do it this way, even if unlocked is currently near completely unplayable.
@higgs5877
@higgs5877 Місяць тому
Plat done, enjoyed every minute.
@Mathieuacc
@Mathieuacc Місяць тому
Imagine the free time
@patrickjw333
@patrickjw333 Місяць тому
Damn!!!!!!!!!
@islandboy9381
@islandboy9381 Місяць тому
now go outside
@higgs5877
@higgs5877 Місяць тому
55 hours not a big deal lmao@@islandboy9381
@Satsui_No_Hado
@Satsui_No_Hado Місяць тому
Now touch grass 😁
@kxrma._
@kxrma._ Місяць тому
cant wait for this to come to pc
@Motion_God
@Motion_God Місяць тому
Same man at true 4k 120 fps
@crysave9624
@crysave9624 Місяць тому
Fuck bullshit Sony exclusive stuff everyone else has to wait a year or two to be able to play.
@caio5987
@caio5987 Місяць тому
@@crysave9624 😂 keep crying
@Walamonga1313
@Walamonga1313 Місяць тому
Same. Gonna coop with my gf just like every recent TN game
@cosmosofinfinity
@cosmosofinfinity Місяць тому
@@crysave9624 You can't have everything. The one or two times a year a game doesn't come to PC immediately and you guys still whine about it. Exclusives barely even happen anymore, and yet you still feel so entitled to each and every release. Something tells me you don't whine like this for the dozens of Nintendo games because it's already expected, but when Sony and the PS5 FINALLY gets an actual true exclusive to justify its console, nah, we can't have that. GTA6 is inevitably coming to PC eventually too, just not immediately, because not the whole world revolves around you and the PC audience. Taking extra time to actually optimize the PC releases is a good thing if anything, instead of rushing it out the door when it's not ready and takes extra work than the console versions. PC gamers always want to have their cake and eat it too, and then review bomb the Steam page for some arbitrary reason anyway. I game on PC too, but the PC crowd is easily the most impossible to please of the bunch, it is easy to understand why a company wouldn't even want to bother dealing with such unpleasant people
@DravenxEyeless
@DravenxEyeless Місяць тому
It seems like a trend with Team Ninja where they are always going to steps forward and one step back when it comes to graphics: the lackluster HDR implementation of Stranger of Paradise, the 30 fps cap on cutscenes (even on PC) and the uneven frame pacing found in Wu Long and now here. The strange implementation of Ray Tracing , the 4x Anisotropic filtering, FSR2 looking extremely blurry... These peoeple are more than capable of delivering better, so what's stopping them from doing so?
@Falcos01
@Falcos01 Місяць тому
You don't get it haven't you noticed most japanese games are not that great graphicaly. Western made games have better graphics and engine its know facts these days.
@iluvmusicqwe
@iluvmusicqwe Місяць тому
@@Falcos01Japanese software development in generql is a decade or 2 behind.
@shuye5004
@shuye5004 Місяць тому
3:16 nooooo don't kill Gonzo🤣He's a cool guy to hang around with.
@AlternativExXxHonK
@AlternativExXxHonK Місяць тому
Oh....😅 Shit.
@THEEBlackAnime
@THEEBlackAnime Місяць тому
Lol yea I kept him on mines too, even when there was another mission to off him, I didn’t. Instead I joined up with him to take out the “suspicious men” which then formed a bond with him and a weapon style 💪🏾
@estekel2
@estekel2 Місяць тому
But wasn't everyone saying that it was the Xbox Series S holding back development? 🤔
@Fusion05
@Fusion05 22 дні тому
The Series S couldn't run this tho. Series X and PS5 are the only the only ones who can attempt to run it
@estekel2
@estekel2 22 дні тому
@@Fusion05 this game was developed only for the PS5. What's your source that the series s couldn't run this? It'll run GTAVI but can't run this, are you for real?
@Techno0Raver1992
@Techno0Raver1992 Місяць тому
VRR is a must this generation... Rip to everyone with a fixed panel when the game stumble around 55-60fps
@someshwarrao42
@someshwarrao42 Місяць тому
At this point, AMD or the console manufacturers should really consider limiting some upscaled resolutions to some specific base resolution? Want to upscale to 4k from below 1080p ? No dice. Consumers should not be treated as beta testers.
@maodijong3661
@maodijong3661 Місяць тому
the fire doesnt burn the grass...something we had in games 20 years ago lol
@MegaNecroX1
@MegaNecroX1 Місяць тому
Honestly this may not be perfect in terms of performance but I feel it’s better than Dragons Dogma 2 which is wild unstable frame rate on consoles, though honestly I was expecting better from Rise of the Ronin
@thelawyer95
@thelawyer95 Місяць тому
Exactly, but Fanboys would rather die than accept criticism for their game. Dragons dogma runs like poop even on a high end pc.
@mandu6665
@mandu6665 Місяць тому
@@thelawyer95 Wanna talk about fanboys not accepting criticism? Go back to Elden Ring's st-st-st-st-stuttery ass launch and Baldur's Gate 3 launching with thousands of bugs, multiple broken features and insanely underdeveloped paths in the story.
@thelawyer95
@thelawyer95 Місяць тому
@@mandu6665 Uhmm yes, these games run like ass too. What do you want to tell me with that.
@SteveJonesOwnsDSP
@SteveJonesOwnsDSP Місяць тому
No surprise that the best mode for a Team Ninja game will be the 60fps Performance mode. They just need to work on pairing their graphics department to higher standards, and they'll be top-tier studio. This game really does look last gen, especially if you compare it to a stellar Assassin's Creed Unity which released in 2014 (10 years ago).
@kicapanmanis1060
@kicapanmanis1060 Місяць тому
Yea but better graphics means longer development times and cost. I don't think they want or was made to be a top tier studio. I think they should focus more on optimizing the graphics they are making.
@Kamunchu
@Kamunchu Місяць тому
The combat is sick
@tomjddavis
@tomjddavis 29 днів тому
Hoping for an inevitable PC version at some point in the future, will wait a year or two for that...
@mleolv426
@mleolv426 Місяць тому
Another technical review with absolutely no mention of the sound in the game.
@tomasjari9412
@tomasjari9412 Місяць тому
I will buy it maybe on PC. Want to play full details + max graphics/fps settings.
@markmills4980
@markmills4980 Місяць тому
i'm starting to think part of the reason we aren't getting truly impressive current gen games (apart from how long dev cycles are) is because a lot of studios don't seem to be able to develop/optimize their games well enough at the current level. let alone being able to aim higher
@kirauno
@kirauno Місяць тому
this seems like it'd be a perfect game for switch
@okeynwachie
@okeynwachie Місяць тому
Damn Ghost of Tsushima aging like fine wine 🍷
@rangersnut
@rangersnut Місяць тому
Its nice that they were inclusive and gave an all abilities horse time to shine. 😂 Joking aside, if they can improve performance mode to a more even 60fps then I will buy it. The only mode I ever is use is performance this gen. For me games are 60fps or I don't buy them.
@kicapanmanis1060
@kicapanmanis1060 Місяць тому
Same for me. 60fps minimum is a must for me unless it's on a handheld.
@Motion_God
@Motion_God Місяць тому
Needs to come to pc sooner than later
@Ala_Diego
@Ala_Diego Місяць тому
I honestly like the idea to include a 45 fps comprimise
@YesLads-tt6ue
@YesLads-tt6ue Місяць тому
I remember a few weeks before this game the discourse was about how every game doesn’t need massive triple A budgets Times sure change quickly
@TheSparkynuts
@TheSparkynuts Місяць тому
People were saying games didn't need AAA budgets AND 70 price tags. This game only got half of that right
@37Kilo2
@37Kilo2 Місяць тому
It's almost as if people are impossible to please, and are often contradictory. Especially gamers.
@PantsaBear
@PantsaBear Місяць тому
Ignoring OP's strawman's comment on what the issues with this release actually are... Considering every Team Ninja game is incredibly deritivative of already existing games (not influenced by, theyre way too similar) and always have issues with optimizing their titles, yet they still charge $70, yeah I think people have a right to be annoyed. Is it the worst thing in the world? No. But people are allowed to complain
@hilldill8
@hilldill8 Місяць тому
The game's been in development for 9+ years so ya I think people wanted a bit more.
@YesLads-tt6ue
@YesLads-tt6ue Місяць тому
@@TheSparkynutsThere was not any talk about price tags that I saw. I think that’s just an excuse for not wanting to seem hypocritical
@sobari745
@sobari745 Місяць тому
Yeah, this isn’t a PS5 game. This is a PS4 game that they just decided not to release on PS4. Looks like we’ve got to wait another several years before we get our first current-gen game.
@randyrrs7028
@randyrrs7028 Місяць тому
this is a low quality garbage that can easily run on a ps3
@alex.starostin
@alex.starostin 29 днів тому
​@@randyrrs7028it can run on PS3 with even more downgrades to image quality and framerate
@sidew8ys
@sidew8ys 29 днів тому
Did you not play Ratchet & Clank?
@kajerlou
@kajerlou Місяць тому
Shadows in Graphics mode, especially foliage shadows look so bad that given a choice between how they look and just turning them off, I would choose the latter without hesitation. It is SO frustrating how often, in 2024 we are still seeing terrible looking shadows!
@Ganderlow
@Ganderlow Місяць тому
Graphics mode with fps cap removed seems to be the best of both worlds. Higher resolution and higher frames than 30
@thelawyer95
@thelawyer95 Місяць тому
But uneven frametimes
@mr88nyc
@mr88nyc Місяць тому
Yeah I thought this would be the case but unfortunately it plays really badly and I’m someone who is usually fine with a locked 40 or even 30 fps. There’s something seriously wrong with their framepacing.
@Nautilus1986
@Nautilus1986 Місяць тому
That horse running like it‘s holding a shit still kills me 😂 Absolutly hilarious
@xxnike0629xx
@xxnike0629xx Місяць тому
We'll probably see patches.
@Zackasaur1917
@Zackasaur1917 Місяць тому
This game has been a lovely treat between the awesomeness of FFVII Rebirth and the upcoming Stellar Blade and FFXVI: The Rising Tide. What a year!
@Uzura_Kagari
@Uzura_Kagari 29 днів тому
You've been eating well
@TheRealJaCrispy
@TheRealJaCrispy Місяць тому
I played this at my buddy's house and performance mode looks like doo doo. Its trying to be a bunch of different games, Assassin's Stealth Legend of Tsushima. It doesn't play as smooth as it should. It is an unbelievably polished turd. Its crazy how many people keep saying how good this game is because they can't refund their digital purchase. Those are some coping skills.
@SilverEye91
@SilverEye91 Місяць тому
How many takes did it take you to say the name of the monitor?
@itag295
@itag295 Місяць тому
Its real DNA is Nioh, not Wo Long. I can clearly see some animations similar to Nioh1/2. Ghost of Tsushima has superb graphics at a locked 60 on PS5 but it has terrible input lag. Nioh2 in that regard is very responsive. It would have been nice if Tom shared some tests on input lag.
@Highwaysonyfan87
@Highwaysonyfan87 Місяць тому
It’s actually more of a melding of Nioh and Wo Long. Not one or the other. It uses multiple styles/stances like Nioh, but the core combat loop is heavily HEAVILY centered around parries, which is what Wo Long was ALL about.
@PSspecialist
@PSspecialist Місяць тому
Is it input lag or does the game just feel heavier and slower?
@Patek.01
@Patek.01 28 днів тому
@@PSspecialist Right? theres no input lag on GoT
@lipsontajgordongrunk4328
@lipsontajgordongrunk4328 Місяць тому
Yes, a Tom video!
@joshuaminke6629
@joshuaminke6629 Місяць тому
it will make it to Pc at some point. ill wait for that
@hunterjg777
@hunterjg777 Місяць тому
Hard to believe this is the same Team Ninja that made the first 2 Ninja Gaiden games. I can't imagine this having the same team members as back in those days.
@leonro
@leonro Місяць тому
This is a Japanese company, people rarely move onto another employer over there. I wouldn't be surprised if a good chunk of the Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2 reboots were still there.
@AnimeUniverseDE
@AnimeUniverseDE Місяць тому
Actually, labor laws are pretty strong in Japan, meaning if a company doesn't go under nobody's getting fired. Remember how Satoru Iwata had to sacrifice his salary because the Wii U underperformed? That was not his choice, Japanese law required this action to be taken.
@kicapanmanis1060
@kicapanmanis1060 Місяць тому
Man Matthew Perry was a boss back in the day. 😂
@Loquacious_Jackson
@Loquacious_Jackson Місяць тому
Who?
@dr.loomis4221
@dr.loomis4221 Місяць тому
Especially on Friends...RIP
@iiisixstringiii8285
@iiisixstringiii8285 Місяць тому
"OH, MY GODDD" - Chandler Bing
@user-dn7dj3bs7x
@user-dn7dj3bs7x 21 день тому
Early PS4 Game with 60 FPS patch. -Pop in right in front of you -900p -40-60 fps -Frame time issues -poor textures -Horse animation from South park creator Gameplay looks dope though. Shouldn’t have put it in a PS5 Box tbh.
@doggity5149
@doggity5149 Місяць тому
Back in the day they used to call him Matthew Parry
@Nolasco.
@Nolasco. Місяць тому
For me personally always frame rate over fidelity. In my humble opinion a smooth frame rate makes the game look better and play better. To bad Dragon's Dogma 2 got the same fate and even worse 😞 Thanks for the coverage Tom 👍🏼
@D..S..
@D..S.. Місяць тому
I loved the stable framtimes in FFVII Rebirth, feels SO GOOD compared to other AAA games, even if the textures suck absolute ass
@rangersnut
@rangersnut Місяць тому
I agree
@DBTHEPLUG
@DBTHEPLUG Місяць тому
Console scrubs tripping over each other for a low graphics, dynamic '4K' (1440p), 'smooth' 30 FPS experience on their 8K capable consoles.
@DBTHEPLUG
@DBTHEPLUG Місяць тому
'I'm playing at 4K 120 FPS', said the console scrub calmly while hovering between 90-110 FPS and running the game at a dynamic 4K resolution, averaging out at around a 1080p internal resolution.
@D..S..
@D..S.. Місяць тому
@@DBTHEPLUG I have a PC too and PC gaming fucking sucks ass these days
@christopherf-r8676
@christopherf-r8676 Місяць тому
@TheRunningManZ nice intro !
@Krampus6-1-6
@Krampus6-1-6 Місяць тому
Game is artistically pleasing. It looks a bit flat for sure but the combat and traversal mechanics makes it interesting for me. Unfortunately i can't play it.
@Satsui_No_Hado
@Satsui_No_Hado Місяць тому
Why can't you play it
@Walamonga1313
@Walamonga1313 Місяць тому
​@@Satsui_No_HadoProbably no PS5. I wish TN stopped with the stupid exclusives that prevent PC players from buying them lol. Having to wait on Sony and then Epic games 😴
@ReginaldVannison7777
@ReginaldVannison7777 Місяць тому
The performance mode should be way better for those of us who have a 120hz tv/monitor. Hopefully they can improve the performance.
@alecrizzle
@alecrizzle 28 днів тому
Why would you rver have fps cap enabled ? Genuinely asking here
@doaxbabesparadise
@doaxbabesparadise Місяць тому
I feel like 900-1080p at 45-60fps with RT on is not actually so bad especially for an open world title The graphics mode being 1152-1512p at 30fps seems low, I would have expected 1800-2160p at 30fps
@12coco100
@12coco100 Місяць тому
Yeah the resolution is pretty low for a 30fps mode. Horizon runs at native 4k.
@islandboy9381
@islandboy9381 Місяць тому
Imagine paying full price for a high skill action combat game that runs below 60, imagine DMC5 came out like that
@kewinabea5439
@kewinabea5439 Місяць тому
Lol
@TruTrae
@TruTrae Місяць тому
I mean it did come out like that... The game ran well but it didn't reach its target all the time especially on the Xbox one consoles.
@palekevo1935
@palekevo1935 Місяць тому
Same shit with dragons dogma 2 but ppl chose to complaint abt microtransactions
@marting.9613
@marting.9613 Місяць тому
We don't care. Not everyone is a graphics w****. Gameplay is king. Now if the gameplay is bad that's a different story.
@wamba2097
@wamba2097 Місяць тому
DMC5 came out like that. Didn't matter though, it was an excellent game.
@davidpickavance1
@davidpickavance1 Місяць тому
I've only played a few hours so far, but I'm enjoying it. After playing nothing but my Steam Deck for a couple of months, the visuals look fine to me. 😂
@bullittproof
@bullittproof 29 днів тому
Does this game allow higher framerates with the 120hz mode?
@jda8176
@jda8176 Місяць тому
Still waiting for that true next gen game!
@flintironstag9983
@flintironstag9983 Місяць тому
This is it. This was what these consoles are capable of.
@fcukugimmeausername
@fcukugimmeausername Місяць тому
That horse animation 💀💀💀
@knache3870
@knache3870 Місяць тому
😂😂
@Uzura_Kagari
@Uzura_Kagari Місяць тому
Even ocarina of time for the N64 had better animations
@fcukugimmeausername
@fcukugimmeausername Місяць тому
@@Uzura_KagariI'm pretty sure they motion captured a rocking horse
@mitsuhh
@mitsuhh Місяць тому
5:43 "beautifully lit materials" where?
@BHFFS
@BHFFS Місяць тому
Why does it look so gray? Reminds me of AC1
@SilverBld
@SilverBld Місяць тому
I'm so glad I bought the LG C1 lol
@kicapanmanis1060
@kicapanmanis1060 Місяць тому
I have one too!
@SilverBld
@SilverBld Місяць тому
@@kicapanmanis1060 Awesome TV
@Psychx_
@Psychx_ Місяць тому
16x anisotropic filtering doesn't cost more than 1% performance these days. It's baffling that game devs still leave it at 4x.
@markjacobs1086
@markjacobs1086 Місяць тому
It costs a lot of memory bandwidth, something an APU does not have an abundance of due to the shared memory.
@ramymimouni6639
@ramymimouni6639 Місяць тому
on pc it doesn't bc it's running on rams, but on consoles it's costly since consoles don't have rams only GDDR shared with cpu.
@Psychx_
@Psychx_ Місяць тому
@@markjacobs1086 You sure you're not mistaking this with MSAA?
@Psychx_
@Psychx_ Місяць тому
@@ramymimouni6639 Anisotropic filtering happening in CPU visible RAM outside of the GPU on PC? What the?!
@band0lero
@band0lero Місяць тому
It doesn't cost much when you're not bandwith constrained. Usually on PC you aren't since GPU VRAM and System RAM don't share bandwith. On console bandwith is much scarcer. That's why it is pretty much the norm that console games have bad anisotropic filtering even today. It's kinda like textures not having performance impact unless you're out of VRAM.
@iPlaySEGA
@iPlaySEGA Місяць тому
Would love to see this and Nioh 1+2 on XBOX...
@Zoeila
@Zoeila Місяць тому
Why is pop in still an issue with the speed of the PS5 SSD
@Uberzit
@Uberzit Місяць тому
Odd they don’t mention Sekiro or Nioh. Sounds like the combat is identical to Sekiro Edit: why does the horse look like it’s running with Forrest Gump leg braces
@tristman8413
@tristman8413 Місяць тому
Because his name is forest, forest gump 😂
@vspectra
@vspectra Місяць тому
combat plays better than sekiro
@w3bbi3
@w3bbi3 Місяць тому
They forgot horses had joints
@lordaizen8004
@lordaizen8004 Місяць тому
It’s not really exactly like Sekiro tho. I was playing that game to get ready for this one. I would say it’s even slightly different than Wo Long. There is actually a small window of time you have to deflect BEFORE the attack actually hits you. In Sekiro you deflect AS the attack hits you. It really does feel different in action too. Took some getting used to. As far as the back and forth goes it is slightly different as well. It definitely has very similar rhythms and timing, but the way depleted health increases stagger in Sekiro is one major difference. I haven’t tried Nioh yet but sorely need to. Deflecting is a big part of RotR, but it also has a “Blade Flash” technique that allows you to regain stamina after a swing by cleaning the blood off your sword. (Really cool in action). It’s more about just pressing your enemy and using combat styles that counter theirs, while deflecting when needed. The amount of combat styles and weapon types in this game can seem overwhelming at 1st but once you get into it, it’s AWESOME. You are encouraged to switch to weapons and styles on the fly, depending on your opponent’s weapon and style. After a little practice it becomes fairly intuitive and the controls can be pretty seamless. (Which to me is paramount in a game like this) TLDR; this game is its own thing and somewhat unlike Sekiro or Wo Long. While the open world wasn’t the “best” in execution, I found the story and its historical context to be very intriguing. Then you add SICK combat and an overall GENUINE atmosphere, and Rise of the Ronin is one of the best samurai/ninja titles I’ve had the pleasure of playing 😊 4 out of 5 stars ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@lordaizen8004
@lordaizen8004 Місяць тому
@@w3bbi3I honestly don’t think it looks that bad
@LatterDayPup
@LatterDayPup Місяць тому
40fps modes should be a standard by now.
@DBTHEPLUG
@DBTHEPLUG Місяць тому
Console scrubs tripping over each other for a low graphics, dynamic '4K' (1440p), 'smooth' 30 FPS experience on their 8K capable consoles.
@jawknee4088
@jawknee4088 Місяць тому
@@DBTHEPLUGyou’re still stuck on the whole console vs PC debate? grow up man, that’s so 2015
@wamba2097
@wamba2097 Місяць тому
@@jawknee4088 I remember that debate in the 90s. It was pathetic even then 🤣
@fcukugimmeausername
@fcukugimmeausername Місяць тому
We're at least one console generation away from RT being viable. I don't know why they even bother to include it, the added visuals don't nearly overcome the framerate drops that it brings.
@asimb0mb
@asimb0mb Місяць тому
Even with my VRR display (LG CX), the performance mode is far from ideal, especially in cities. Idk, the framerate drops are very obvious for some reason. Feels like it's dipping below 50fps all the time.
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