Why when you are going to have the x elite soon enough

I'd like to have an option to throttle down power usage so I have a consistent performance from start to finish.

@@Nayr7928 now you are confusing me. why do you want active cooling just to lower the power. i thought you wanted active cooling so you can maintain the peak performance of these SoCs

​@@quantumdot7393those are different people

@@quantumdot7393 Yes. I just want more control over it. Just like how I can lower my desktop GPU's power limit. I'm pretty sure phones rack up the power usage to maintain steady performance even when the game doesn't need it. I'd like control over that so I can test things out where I can maximize sustained performance and efficiency.

Lmao other benchmarks have it, geekbench probably won't have it considering who they cheat for has shit sustained performance

This, absolutely this. Standby, with 5g and bluetooth in background, is awesome on exynos 2400. Then when you need peak performance like with AI and Ray tracing is there. Maybe with software optimisation can be even better (in context switches for example), in the end a 10 core cluster is new for Samsung One UI to handle.

One thing is certain, the Exynos SoC isn't terrible this time around. The battery drain and heat issues that plagued previous iterations seem to be mostly fixed. The SD 8 Gen 3 is still fairly ahead in terms of CPU performance and quite a bit ahead in GPU. For the average user it won't be very noticeable though. I'm just glad to see Qualcomm finally beating Apple silicon. It took a long time to get there.

GPU Exynos has an edge in solar bay test since it tests RT capabilities@@elimalinsky7069

This is not that realistic either because you are likely to play a game for 30 minutes and then wait 2-3-4 minutes to join another round so the phone does have "some" time to cool down.

@@alexandruilea915 , that's a good point. But what Garry is doing here is a form of stress testing to find the performance limits. Your suggestion can also be another test.

​@@alexandruilea915it is realistic because even before going back in the lobbies in games are not nothing, it is still graphically stressing so there's no time for real cooling like on the homescreen...and this only apply to fps game. Adventure on the other hand is continuous fire for 3+ hours like sky children of light i play

@@lekejoshua4402 in lobby the GPU is way less stressed.

Because the performance is quite low and has nowhere to go.

​@@GaryExplainssustained performance means constant FPS which is more important than high fps numbers but with frequent drops. The Samsung's could sustain better performance if they didn't push that hard in the beginning I think.

Because he don't even tried to make a fair comparison from the start. If he wanted a fair comparison he should include the SD8G2 too and split the result into 2 parts (SD8G2/Tensor 3/A17 and SD8G3/Dimensity 9300/Exynos 2400). With this the result is similar like you compare their 4 generations backward models, so Pixel 4 XL (SD855) vs iPhone 11 (A13) vs Note 20 (SD865), on what earth is that a fair comparison..? Just because Note 20 released with iPhone 12 (A14), and the Note 10 with also SD855 like Pixel 4 XL is 5 gens backward not just 4 like for the others...

​@@TamasKiss-yk4stas a pixel owner myself we all know tensor has always been behind in raw performance, the test wasn't unfair, the pixel 8 is the latest tensor chip and will be until October. I would have liked to see something like the Asus ROG phone or another phone that really pushes cooling to see if they are worth the increased price and camera sacrifices.

Glad it was helpful!

You're welcome 😊

Even with the debuff from the manufacturing process its still not far from 8 Gen 3 or 9300. Its ray tracing capability is even slightly better. Imagine if it's manufactured on a proper process.

wish they make again a chip like dimensity 8100 , that was the best in terms of long time performance and battery life

Obviously cz no Fan for cooling down that thing...🔥🤝

@@Jerry-hc7yx u don't need a fan u need a right amount of thermal dissipation or heat spreather to cool itself but apparently apply don't do so well on this type of cooling , what the phones without a fan using it's a passive cooling that in the end uses the frame to cool itself , the better design the faster dissipate the heat

@@cristianJoker2512 ...But Redmagic and ROG got inbuilt fan ......

@@Jerry-hc7yx that fan it's annoying, had the 8 pro and was a nightmare , imagine 20000rpm

Glad to hear you found it useful. 👍

It isn't a simple one or the other answer. They both work together. Having said that, for mobile gaming the GPU is very important.

Yeah but I guess you don't want to have to struggle just after just one run.

Yes, but that is a niche product that doesn't represent a "normal" flagship smartphone.

@@GaryExplains Gary in competitive gaming scenario which core is important Single core with higher clock speed or multi cores with lower or medium clock speed? Pls I've this confusion for a long time if the single core is more important definitely iphone would be better but not for ah long playing hours I mean in sustain performance right?

The GPU.

Unfortunately it wasn't very popular.

@@GaryExplains But Today Need Your Speed Test G Channel Beacuse This Channel Very Informative About phone performance.

I am glad you think so, but as I said it wasn't popular, so clearly it isn't needed.

@@GaryExplains Sir Please I Want IQOO 12 vs Iphone 15 pro max Speed Test G Test. Please upload Vedios on Speed Test G Channel Please 🥺

I don't own or have access to an IQOO12 or an iPhone 15 Pro Max. How can I do the test on those phones if I don't have access to them? This is part of the problem, the channel wasn't popular enough to justify investing in phones for testing, etc.

Because those are niche. Most phones with all the different SoC have passive cooling. To use a phone with active cooling would distort the results.

Well, Google and Apple still nit showed us the SD8G3 conpetitor chip, because Samsung retreated, and not enough confident to release a phone directly with the iPhone, the generations still not crossed.. easy to count 4 generations backwars where Pixel 4 XL (SD855) and iPhone 11 (A13) released, but the Note 20 (SD865) is not their competitor, you must go 5 gens backward on Samsung timeline to find the Note 10 (SD855) what released 2 weeks before iPhone 11.. so why wouldn you call that to a fair conparison where SD855 vs A13 vs SD865 is compared, when that SD865 Note 20 released with the iPhone 12, so not to professional to compare only with the iPhone 11 (especially when the Pixel 4 XL in 2019 also had the same SD855 like the Note 10 in 2019, and isn't that obvious their competitor is that iPhone what released between them?)

It was the Plus, not the small one.

Oh okay. The s24+ has usually much better score. @@GaryExplains sorry for the confusion.. Also please include the temperature which will let us know the actual reason behind the throttling. Thank you for the video.

I covered that in the release video of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3. The info here was a very quick overview mainly pertaining to the testing. Limited time and space. Many things not mentioned.

@@GaryExplains Okay Gary. Thanks for the clarification.

That isn't true. A CPU that produces less heat needs less cooling. Most phones have passive cooling, so the "cooling solution" is basically how big is the phone so that it has a larger surface area to expel the heat.

Based on what numbers/metrics?

Back when qualcomm went for samsung for the 888, 8g1 yeah

Many uses cases (including gaming, watching videos, social media, etc) require the phone to be on and active for several minutes at a time.

Several minutes, is that all they are supposed to be used for?@@GaryExplains

I don't think they are designed for any particular usage pattern. There are obvious physical constraints like battery size and cooling. As the video shows the performance drops after a few minutes and then kind of plateaus. That is why quick charging is a thing, people like to top up the battery before heading out.

Why would Apple do it intentionally, it means that games will slow down after a few minutes. Are you saying Apples wants games to slow down intentionally?

Amd gpu is no slouch. I am still doubting samsung 4nm is worse than tsmc 4nm process. If samsung fixes this with their 3nm it will be great competition to snapdragon.

@@GaryExplainsknowing Apple’s reputation of throttling hard on their CPU’s when it comes to thermals (even the desktop range) on the surface it would appear that way😢

@felipe367 Are you saying that Apple throttles is CPUs on mobile and on the desktop when it doesn't need to?

Yup it does sometimes since most iphones only have 2 or 3 graphite pads for cooling ​@@GaryExplains

But it isn't a flat line is it? It drops sharply at the beginning.

​@@GaryExplainsIt drops to a regulated constant, It probably improves its own power efficiency also.

It is mainly to do with cooling, not power efficiency.

Depends on when you measure and what you measure.

Close! But no, @CanadianBakin42O was first.

It's true that overall the Exynos 2400 is worse than the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, but you seem to purposely not notice that this same Exynos 2400 that you decry so much, is better than other processors, and especially Apple's A17 Pro that they try to sell us as the pinnacle of the pinnacle in terms of smartphone processor.

Nope, if it was worse it would have throttled like hell, this test only shows how the Exyno 2400 is stable, stop blaming the SoC and wait for the long term reviews

It isn't by some tests and games, anyway the long performance reviews will say if its better or not@@rolins3279

That is not true tho. Also in some gaming scenarios it was performing better than 8g3 Even after having a smaller form factor of a phone

It's not as bad as I was expecting it's actually quite acceptable benchmark wise

bad cooling you mean 😂

Their SOCs potential is wasted due to bad heat dissipation.