Parents, if you can’t handle your out of control kid, don’t send them to your elderly parents!! What makes you think they can control, the uncontrollable?! 🤯

Divorced and just out of jail at only 19? That's a train wreck of a life already.

I’m 32 and my gramps just died at age 94 and it has destroyed me… She didn’t deserve grandparents

Mindy and Kevin are total badasses. To keep fighting after after bear mace to the face and a ballbat to the head and body, simply phenomenal.

Never understood why people send their kid they can't physically control to their Grandparents. When they no longer have strength.

"It was kinda creepy" She is the one who is creepy. Her eyes are soulless.

This girl telling a murder story like she played with a dollhouse with a friend she is so detached

The undeveloped prefrontal cortexes are strong with these two

"it was kinda creepy...she was like scared to die" That is the most ridiculous and cold blooded statement I've ever heard. This is truly mind blowing. It's crazy how someone can have amazing peope willing to take them in and help them, and turn on them to do this.

Hearing her describe how her grandma was scared and kept trying to play dead broke my heart. The whole retelling did. Despicable.

Yo my jaw went threw the floor when they said her grandparents paid for her to go to china to compete in the martial arts tourney, WTF ARE SOME PEOPLE ON!!!

Who needs enemies, when you got family members like this around you.

The fact that they had pictures of her all over the house and loved her enough to take her in when her parents couldn’t handle her and she STILL did this to them makes me physically ill. I actually feel weak and queasy. Absolutely evil

The way she explains the horrific things she did so casually... shes explaining it as if shes talking about a normal boring day with her friends

Imagine living a long life and raising children. Just to be murdered with your lifelong partner by your own grand daughter you helped raise? That’s just sad. I bet they never imagined dying this way.

I went to school with Johnny. I always saw him as just a loud extroverted kid who occasionally got in trouble. It is so crazy seeing what became of him and imagining this young kid becoming a cruel murderer. Such a shame. I remember everyone in our community talking about and everyone being so shocked. It is heartbreaking for those poor people , RIP

Imagine murdering your grandparents and thinking $1000 dollars is alot. Yikes.

How are you married and divorced by 19? And just finished a prison sentence? I'm too lazy for all that.

Eating together in the interview room was genius. Humans are conditioned to open up and share at mealtimes

i’m currently a little over halfway through this and my brain is still struggling to process that a brutal murder took place because of how casual cassie is while talking about her actions. it genuinely feels like she’s just talking about the weather or a regular day of school. not cruelly taking an innocent person’s life. wow. this is truly so horrible.

Kudos to boyfriend Kevin for refusing to go down lightly and keeping a horrible situation from getting even worse. Dude got bear sprayed, hammered and a bat to the teeth, but kept three people from being added to the body count.

Cassie acting like $1,000 would last a lifetime. An uncle who would take both of them in for free, grandparents who sent her to China and Disney, and Johnny has a friend like Jake, but it still wasn't good enough.

Killing your grandparents is a different type of disgusting

This girl is gonna go insane with her demons in jail..

Kevin saved his whole girlfriends family. Him and the sister fought like hell. Kevin is incredible. And the sister and mother are so strong to have survived that.

She’s beyond a psychopath. How can you listen your grandparents beg for their life, and still off them. Geesh I cried I’m so sorry for her grandparents

Precisely how you know JUST HOW immature this girl is. She truly thinks $1,000 is a lot of money. These kids are sick and should spend the rest of their days behind bars.

The casual way she was explaining “In Detail” how she killed her grandmother and tied her body up with duck tape while she was eating McDonald’s like it’s just a bedtime story is unbelievable. No remorse no emotion,nothing. Condolences to the family.

These are the kind of people who should never be let out of jail. There are no emotions, no empathy, no remorse. She can talk about eating, living and murdering someone in the same tone.

One of the things about this channel that I really like is that they ANNOTATE every spoken word. It's really helpful because there are moments where the dialogue is slurred or garbled to the point where it's indiscernible. Very few other channels go to the trouble of annotating everything and I really appreciate that EWU does.

My grandmother physically, emotionally, and mentally abused me from ages 7-14. I hated this woman, did not cry when she eventually passed of cancer. I only felt happiness and relief but I still called her in the hospital before her passing and said thank you for the food, thank you for the roof, and for my education then hung up. I never even THOUGHT about raising my hand to her....this is absolutely disgusting.

My grandma died when I was 11, and all I have left is depression. I couldn’t handle it and my life went through hell after she died. As I’m typing this, I’m crying just thinking about her. This girl is heartless. She’s a cold blooded killer.

Imagine your grandparents welcoming you into their beautiful home and this is how you repay them. There are thousands of kids whose parents abandon them and are forced into foster care instead of having grandparents. Makes me sick

She's so relaxed and casual while talking about killing her grandparents. What a freakin psychopath.

Strange there's no mention of how Cassie's parents dealt with all of this.

i’m so disgusted. that poor elderly couple. i’m so infuriated. i hope nothing but the worst for cassie and johnny.

She doesn't lie or get emotional about brutally killing the grandparent, but tries to cover-up and gets upset about inviting friends over to the house.

This shows how domestic violence committed by children is not taken seriously. Right from the start this girl showed she was a clear danger and a psychopath.

beautiful way to end the video. Im glad you were able to secure an interview with him. Glad he was able to share some light on a disgusting story... I wish him the best in his life

"Even the most psychopathic of killers would have got emotional" bud, reread that sentence.

Bear spray is no joke. My crazy ex "accidentally" unloaded a can in my face when I was pregnant. It was a million times worse than childbirth. I was on the floor, crying, gasping, gagging, vomiting. Tears and snot coming out of my eyes, ears, mouth and nose. I get traumatized just thinking about it.

Married AND divorced by 19?! What a catch!

Thank you for giving the family members of the victims a voice! ❤ it really sets apart your channel from others! It’s been awesome to see EWU grow!

When my grandmother passed…. It destroyed me. I can’t imagine how someone could be this evil.

He sounded so excited when he thought the cops said he's free to go 😂

Her eyes are creepy af

This is one of the most vile interrogations I've ever heard. Incredible how she's sitting there nonchalantly munching on fries while talking about beating her grandma with a tire iron. WTF. I cannot even comprehend this level of evil - doing something like this to elderly family who you lived with everyday and were just trying to help you in this world. And of course always classic that two people who revelled in their ultraviolence and depravity completely wimped out in their so-called suicide attempt with shallow wrist cuts - basically for 'show'.

I just wanted to say that I really appreciate the way EWU presents the cases. Definitely my favorite of the "interogattion breakdown" channels. Thank you!

She more comfortable during the interrogation than I am with anything in life

Bro the way that female detective dropped the mic with her last comment before walking out of the interrogation room was cold asf! She was friendly as can be until those last 10 seconds when she took the mask off and let that little girl know how she ACTUALLY felt about her. 🥶🥶🥶 She's one hell of a bad mfer! Kudos to her putting these killers behind bars!

Omg this has to be the scariest kind of ppl. They look and even act like children but they are unfeeling evil monsters . Im 6'3 218lb and cassie scares me fr

Thank you so much for your videos. ❤ I love them! You deserve a Netflix show for real!

The way she just casually talked about how they killed her grandparents was pretty chilling.

The way she giggled when she heard her grandpa's wallet was under the bed was seriously disturbing! Thank God the boy's mom came home and stopped the other attack!

Respect to Mindy and Kevin for throwing down and saving people.

Oh boyyy that “Knock if you need anything” was *chefs kiss*

My grandparents are the two people who gave me the most stability in my life. I can’t imagine putting my hands on them ever. Awful.

That girl is a grade-a psychopath, but that "laugh" after being told where the wallet was is not a definite indicator that she thinks it's all a game. It's more likely it was her laughing at herself for a "wow, I'm dumb" moment for not checking an obvious place where people hide things.

Some people are just plain evil & should never be released, this is an example of that! Thinking of the family and friends of this couple. RIP.

my grandfather died 3 years ago and i still grieve for him. this girl did not deserve her grandparents

The brutality of the murder in combination with such a casual retelling from someone who looks like a child is blowing my mind

“free to go?!” “you’re NOT free to go.” DUDE-

It’s insane how she was able to recall everything like nothing, terrifying…

Imagine being murdered, and your sons statement starts 'were they perfect? absolutely not.' Cheers son!

This girl would have 100% in my opinion committed more crimes if she hadn't been arrested.

Casually sitting down to eat with the suspect is kind if genius. Definitely a good way to build rapport imo.

Shout out to the law enforcement officers who handled it like absolute legends.

I swear in 90% of these videos I watch the killer is eating mac donalds feels like some kind of brand placement lol

Wow this girl is so evil. She talk about the killing like she just went shopping! Only a sick mind can act like this! My heart goes out to the grandparents!

I am Chris Bjorge's wife. I was with him when he gave the interview for this documentary, and I audio recorded it. Before he agreed to do the interview, he researched "Explore With Us" and agonized over agreeing to talk to them. He had never given an interview about this before. Every time he relives the horror, he is forced right back to when it happened, which affects him for weeks. He finally made the decision to give the interview to Lizbeth Meredith, for EWU, based on her reputation for being truthful. I am so sorry he made that decision. His memories were chopped and re-spliced in such a way that the meaning was altered and strangers who never heard what he actually had to say feel free to condemn and criticize him. I cannot in good conscience sit by and leave the judgmental and uninformed comments unchallenged. Throughout the interview, Chris shared an account of the horrors of the night he was notified that his parents had been murdered. Chris explained that the whole thing seemed like a bad nightmare, and all these years later it still does. He said he had so many wonderful memories of his parents, and the brutality that they had to go through their last few minutes of their lives is absolutely horrific. Chris told of how his mom, Wendy, was fun to be around. She was a wise cracker and wove her personality into the childhood stories she often told about him. Stories that got better with each subsequent telling. He also spoke of Randall, his dad. Though Randall was a football jock, he never pushed Chris to follow in his footsteps. He encouraged Chris to find his own path. Chris chose to be a triathlete, and both of his parents supported him 100%. In fact, they backed Chris in all his endeavors and made sure that one or both of them were at any event he participated in. The family moved from WA to GA when Chris was in the 4th grade. It was a tough transition and Chris asked his dad to lead the local Cub Scout Troop in an effort to make new friends. Randall agreed to do it, if Chris helped him lead. Their joint efforts led to a lot of good times, great memories, as well as an even closer father/son relationship all the way through high school. The reality is that Chris had a wonderful relationship with his parents as a child. He was not abused, and his relationship with his parents became distant in a large part due to issues with his sister, Cassandra's mother. In my opinion, his sister's decisions were very poor. His parents had a desire to help her, which Chris respected. Chris's parents didn't share with him how bad things were with Cassandra. Once we became aware of how bad things had gotten, Chris and our family immediately stepped up to try and help however we could. That somehow leads to some of you thinking there is a hidden or unspoken tone of abuse that occurred or there are secrets in Chris's relationship with his parents? Uh, no! That is what good Christian folks do. We help when it's needed, regardless of how long it's been since we saw someone. We had a number of video calls with Cassandra, and she seemed on board, and was looking forward to the opportunity to come down to FL and get away for a while. What changed with that, we will never know. All of the above information that I have chosen to share with you was shared in the interview that my husband (Chris) gave. If you want to pass judgements here, don't do it to Chris or his parents. Chris was open and honest throughout the entire interview. He painted a picture of his childhood, and the relationship he had with his parents, and how thankful he was for his parents, and the upbringing they provided. He told of how his parents were fun, funny and supportive parents, and how insanely crushing it was to hear of what they were going through both before their murders, and what happened to them in their final moments. The entire ordeal was devastating for Chris, and our entire family. THE PRODUCERS CHOSE TO CUT ALL OF IT! So, if you're going to pass judgements, you should really re-evaluate where those judgements are directed, especially now that the whole truth has been shared with you, as it was presented by my husband. Have a blessed day, and thank you for reading.

I like the male detective's questioning style - 'what the hell is this shit, know what I'm saying?'

This is so crazy. I was in disbelief the entire time. Her demeanor is absolutely terrifying.

The grandmother having to watch her husband die is the worst part of it all

If you ever read this, Uncle Chris, from the interviews, I am so sorry for you and your family. This is beyond horrible. May they rest in peace.

when she realizes $1000 is just rent for the month if u r lucky lol

I witnessed my cat have a seizure of some kind and die right in front of me .i couldn't eat properly for days blaming myself how casual they were about this is scary .

She's really enjoying the food and this chat. It's astounding how the officers play her. She really thinks they're cool with her. I love how they finally just tell her she's full of it and make her cry. Those tears are not for her grandparents but for her. She's utterly selfish.

I’ve been a criminal almost my whole life and I would never do anything like this to my own family. I’ve been labeled as a sociopath but to do this to one’s own family is the lowest of lows. Can’t believe she laughed about it and seemed excited to tell the story

She's absolutely callous 😮 She's the leader in this, and her boyfriend was too infatuated with her. Two psychopaths!

Ive met a student or two who was being raised by grandparents who failed the first time, then stuck w a violent, controlling grandchild because the parents are either in jail, dead, or just plain gone. That child basically holds the household hostage and makes everyone’s life pure hell. School included.

"I may have like.. broken grandpas ribs, it was like a simple assault" *shrugs shoulders* How disconnected from humanity can you be?

The way she talks about this so casually makes my skin crawl. It's horrifying.

*”I WoULd’Nt HaVe DoNe AnY oF tHiS, iF I hAd NeVeR mEt HeR!”* That’s…..not how that works. You weren’t “bamboozled” into stealing a pack of gum.

I can't grasp how cold blooded she was through the entire interview. I just can't wrap my head around it. It was like she was just telling how her day at school went.

Usually I can watch this videos and just take them with a grain of salt , and compare them to the one's I've already watched. But this one caused me emotional , mental anguish. When the grandparents son said , there were pictures of Cassie all over the house, and that they really loved her, and that grandma's last face book post was pleading for everyone to look out for Cassie, MY HEART BROKE !!!! I'm a 61 y/o man, and I almost cried. God bless there son, and may they rest in the presence of the Lord.

I’m so glad she was asked why she was so upset about the visitors and not anything else.

Damnnnnn I remember seeing this in the news in 2017. I lived in the area and my auntie actually lived in the same neighborhood when this happened. They never knew what happened until they saw it on the news. It’s kind of shocking to seeing this video after all these years.

The fact that she admits to murdering and torturing her grandparents, stealing their car, money, credit cards, trying to kill her sister, but then she draws the line at "we did NOT have people over at my grandparent's house without permission!" The hatred of her grandma must've just been so deep that she figured people would understand the murder and torture, but partying afterwards was too far for her to morally admit? Crazy story and great video EWU 🙏

19 year old married and divorced? A pretty screwed world that is...

This is scary. I wonder if there are kids in my highschool who have thoughts like this. I don’t doubt it whatsoever.

I actually knew Cassandra personally in high school. Absolutely surreal to see her on this channel

The lack of accountability is INSANE. When Cassie says "I got a charge from them" she means "When I assaulted and attacked my grandfather, breaking his rib, I was arrested and charged with simple battery." She literally warped the sentence into making herself the victim of her grandparents actions when they were the ones being victimized by her.

59:17 “i didn’t shit this out”💀💀 someone give this officer a raise

Sixty years in prison for two? Ten million dollars. Two ropes and a tree branch? Priceless.

I lost my grand mother 38yrs ago, i miss her dearly every day.

Imagine reaching retirement age and being murdered by your own grandchild. Jesus...

Imagine sacrificing about 4/5th of your life just for 1000$ and some dude

a skilled social worker from a rough neighborhood ones told me, he could only save one out of ten problematic youngsters. The street wins 9 times out of ten. The ingredients for disaster however, are very similar most of the times. Experts nowadays tend to come to the conclusion, that our world-economy and banking-system are already depending on the drugs-trade...

Johnny sounds just like my childhood friend. Broken and disturbed, falling into a depression and doing drugs to cope because the people wanted him were people with drugs. Like me and his best friend. I too grew away from him. It just makes me think of my own friend.

I absolutely DESPISE how proud Johnny looks in the photograph at the end (the one where he's standing). Words cannot begin to explain my feelings right now. And the way Cassie described her grandma without any emotion? Gut wrenching. Truly a grade-A Psycho!