Still pisses me off that Ferrari had 2 of the best drivers of the 2000s in 2014 and gave them a car akin to something they'd make in their 90s era but worse

That was the definition of a tractor and a hovercraft combined

And Alonso almost won with this thing in Hungary. His 2012 and 2014 seasons are some of the most impressive performances I have ever seen.

Actually, Alonso was driving the F-14T like that on purpose (on the Abu Dhabi clip) he said so to the spanish media -he was having fun since it was his last race with Ferrari, and Practice 1 in Abu Dhabi does not really matter.

Alonso is one of the most talented drivers ever, so of course he could make it almost work.

How Alonso was able to drive it is still beyond me.

**The most undrivable Ferrari so far**

Kimi and Ferrari's conversation would've gone something like this: Kimi: It's terrible. Ferrari: You can't say that. It's a Ferrari! Kimi: It's a sh*tbox. All these facilities and you make a piece of crap like this.

Again, Alonso has been on record saying he prefers a neutral car. He adapts his driving style based on the characteristics of the car to extract the best lap time.

Massa must have gotten a bit of satistaction in 2014. No wonder Williams beat Ferrari in the Constructors.

Alonso just built different that man can drive anything 😄

fun fact: Driver 61 has his own show on Qatar Airways

Hey Scott! One key factor you mentioned is that Ferrari tried to move the engine as forward as possible. A mass very close to the center of the car might be one of the causes for the car behavior due to the changes in the polar moment of inertia. It is widely known that cars which have the bulk of the mass close to the center of the car between the axles handle better, but if you center it way too much, the car becomes critical and it is very very hard to handle because of how sensible it becomes to steering input. One good example of this was the Lancia Stratos, and other less extreme but yet well known is the Toyota MR2. For whatever reason or design choice, this Ferrari had a tendency to understeer like you explained. But then the polar moment of inertia caused by the bulk of the car weight very close to the center could be the reason why it snapped into oversteer when the drivers tried to correct during a turn. This is no explanation since I lack data, just an assumption which might be worth exploring by people with better knowledge than me.

Pretty much every car that year had unstable rears on exists and sometimes on entry. The clips from Silverstone Village corners, Abu Dhabi sector 3, etc that showed their instability aren’t entirely exclusive to Ferrari. A couple of people also had the theory that the F14T had very bad balance at low speed due to the placement and the terrible mapping of the PU, but had much better balance and load than majority of the cars at higher speed. However those comments were quickly rampaged by those who believed otherwise. Such as the result of commenting in Alonso clips.

The F-14T seems to be like the F1 22 game in a nutshell, where you have the same issue. Another thing I'd like to say is that this Ferrari had one of the better-sounding hybrid V6s I've heard.

props to kimi and alonso for driving that ferrari and still not crashing several times.Arguably this has to the one of the best season for fernando alonso for the way he drove and got the car in points near vettel( with probably 2nd best car) justbehind by 6 points .Kimi driving style did not matched the car but still he did great not as great as alonso.

Very reminiscent of the Woolworth shopping trollies, part of their downfall shoppers just couldn’t get to the checkouts in time.

I think its also worth investigating cars that finished 6th - 11th in the constructors that year and check the characteristics because from what I remember, many cars were hard to drive that year.

As a Ferrari fan this car and the 2012 one simply are the greatest example to demonstrate how Alonso is the best driver of the post-1995 era. Hungary 2014 he managed to get a second place holding the 2 SECONDS per lap faster mercedes behind. Something out of this world.

Kimi fans will tell you that car was designed to suit Alonso’s driving style and that’s why he battered Kimi so badly in qualifying and the race. They don’t know that but that’s what they tell themselves and like to tell everyone. Arrivebene even said this car didn’t suit Alonso either, pretty much calling that “cope” theory rubbish.

Under-Over Steering or tactical zig zagging. Looks like your driving on ice.

Your passion is great! Wish I had someone like you to talk to

Great to see you fixed the previously incorrect categorization from the previous video claiming Kimi likes understeer when he obviously doesn’t 👍🏻

whatever you give to alonso, he will adapt to the fastest way to drive it. Other drivers need the car to behave and be tuned on a specific way, alonso just needs it to be fast, and he will adapt to whatever the car needs.

Alonso is one of the greatest drivers Ferrari has had the pleasure to work with.

If even Nando cannot make your car good, your car is done

So many people say things online that are completely over exaggerated. You’re absolutely right.

5:44 Finally someone has said it. Cars cannot physically understeer and oversteer simultaneously but interchangeably. These are two driving characteristics that explain discrete situations in vehicle dynamics. However, just as you do, I understand their point.

Can you make a video about the W11 next?

Great editing. Hilarious and informative at the same time.

0:17 It behaved as if it was under heavy rain with mediums.

Nigel must be so proud of his son, Scott. What a great racing family!

Fascinating. Good job 👍

Great analysis - amazing, what can be found only from the simple data - onboards.

What you said later on is actually what the Ferrari drivers have said about this year's car (SF-23) - it's unpredictable so they've dialled in a bit more understeer so that it's not undrivable

you gave the answer at @2:28 they messed up the weight distribution of the car by making it too far forward. this caused the car to be leary and way too loose on corner entry, and it couldn't also put power down as effectively as a car with a more rearward weight bias, and made it oversteer out of corners.

When your video started I was like "oh dear, hear we go" This is because you made a video a few months ago stating Kimi likes understeer. Now, it seems you have changed your view and suggest Kimi preferred oversteer, which was always evident and known

I like that this is a question when Perry McCarthy's Andrea Moda had the steering rack fall out of his hand at Eau Rouge because the team wanted him to crash and be injured because they were not allowed to replace him 🤣

The car that both looked AND sounded like a vacuum cleaner lol

Truly one of the cars of all time 💀💪🏼🔥...

Still can't belive they actually managed to podium this car

also if you watch any onboard from that time, all the drivers struggled with their cars in similar ways

Singapore qualifying is happening right now! I'll come watch this later 😂

Alonso didn't drive this car. The car itself drove Alonso's patience.

Also the roll centre is to high at the front suspension, Ferrari admitted this at the time

Conclusion: Alonso likes to drift

+ it's a sh1tbox - no you cant say this + why? - because its a Ferrari + no its a sh1tbox

after binge watching all of overdrive videos, can't believe it's the same Scott

I remember Kimi complaining a lot about chronic understeer that year to Finnish TV

Please about the SF1000 next

The car was decent relative to the field. I think a lot of people forget that the cars in 2014 behaved this way in general, with the understeer on entry and oversteer on exit. Only reason the Ferrari gets dissected is because its Ferrari and Kimi couldn't adapt.

Eh, the Audi Quattro S2 was worse according to Röhrl. It understeered on entry, oversteered through the apex, then understeered on exit because the engine being that far forward made it stubborn to turn, but once it did, inertia kept rotating the car. I wonder how fast michelle mouton would have been in F1.

This is exactly what happened to RBR in Singapore this year.

That Abu Dhabi was a practice session

Anyone know where we can watch full onboards and qualifying from past seasons?

The RB19 at Singapore tho😅

Your meme game is incredible Scott

I would love to enter your competition Mr Mansell but I can't pay the entry free (which I'm fine with but you've omitted that part here) because it says you need a Mastercard?

Not related to the Ferrari, but the reddit comments about alonso's video: Normally understeer and oversteer in entry and exit, you resolve the US first. The entry understeer reduces the speed too much, and when you apply the throttle, the low speed and high power looses the rear.

Idubz reaction clip really caught me off guard 😅

Looked bad Drove bad Sounded bad What a machine

Scuderia Ferrari CEO in 2014: "you know, we have a great history in the 60s" SF Engineers: *proceeds to make a car that handles like 60s F1 car

why the thumbnail is Vettel in Fiorano with the F2012?

You know a car is bad when even Kimi looks bad in the rankings

Only Ferrari could build a car with both under steer and over steer 😂

Fernando : I like understeer Kimi : I like oversteer James Allison : I can do both for you

I spent like an hour trying to guess where the ball is, and then I realize I can only pay with MasterCard.

Sounded like a dragon and went into sounding like a dyson vacuum cleaner

This is not the most undriveable Ferrari ever. That was the LIFE Ferrari lmao

Remember when they said the higher and narrower rear wing with the wider front would give more overtaking?.. ....now they made the rear wing lower and wider to give more overtaking? You can't overtake if you have a front wing taking up half the track width and a chassis taking up half the front staight.

"cries in 95kg"... (referring to the competition rules)

Understeered and oversteered at the same time? Sounds like that car I made in automation for beamng. Your car chronically understeers Your car chronically oversteers.

Sounds exactly like how GRID works

This is the only car my Tifosi friend couldn't accept that it was a Ferrari-made F1 car 😂

Why dont you make also a video of williams f1 team in 1998 season. It would be also interesting.

Serious question here...at what point do you start to blame the steering and not the lack of speed into the corner etc.. if its too much to literally push you over the point of no return in terms of the apex but there must be a way to tell or explain. Hmm

so basically the car was trolling the drivers XD

all 2014 cars were like that LOL

You have to agree that it had an amazing sound

Pretty bad for a race car, but not quite as bad as the electric car (named Hammerhead Eagle i-Thrust) built by the UK Top Gear guys in 2010. According to the motor magazine Autocar HQ that got to do a "consumer test" of it it had extreme under-steering when entering a corner without touching the brakes. If the driver applied some braking the front wheels would get a grip and the car would instantly go from under-steer to over-steer!

alonso is so good at driving bad cars

And surely, because it was pre-2022, Ferrari probably blamed the drivers instead of their red tractor.

I can't wait for the video of what happened to the redbulls in q2..

I always thought the 1981 Ferrari was the most undrivable Ferrari ever. That car apparently had a quarter of the downforce that the Williams and Brabham cars had that year. After seeing this, maybe not?

I miss the bigger motors. They were sick...

Mercedes didn't work only on a superbe engine but also on tyres with Pirelli with the famous "secret "tests. Ofc they had no reason to overperform on aereodynamic too since they had already a stronger car than the others

1:45 for a sec i thought the song super max was gonna play lol

Quite ironic how a majority of the video is showing an undrivable car being driven.

It is interesting that they got it so wrong. You would think in an era with full-scale wind tunnels, CFD, and bespoke physics simulators far more advanced than any "game", something like this would not be possible.

I think you are overlooking a serious design flaw. The angle of the front upper and lower control arms (deviating from horizontal) means that every vertical suspension movement also pushes or pulls the tires laterally. Hit a bump or otherwise generate squat or dive, and the front tires are forced to scrub sideways, robbing available grip and sending the car darting one way or another, depending on which tire has the better grip at the moment.

"Worst car of the turbo hybrid era" *gets fourth in the championship*

Alonso overdrove the hell out of that car

Is it going to understeer, oversteer, or fail to steer at all!

stuff about bad guys is that they think they’re actually the good folks out there

"it's terrible, turn like a pig" "ohhh, you can't say that, it's a Ferrari !" "it's a shitbox !"

Tbh the turbo v6 doesn't sound bad

Engine far forward, small sidepods, disastrous result. This all sounds familiar.

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didn't they have to unload the rear because their PU was weak, in an attempt to recover some straight line speed?

Verstappen...please comment on your thoughts about the lack of penalties for impeding at Singapore. Tsunoda's seemed clear, and the pit lane parking...head-scratcher.