open source adobe alts I found that fill almost the whole suite: gimp and krita [aseprite or libresprite if pixel art] = photoshop inkscape= illustrator synfig = animate blender = dimension darktable = lightroom penpot = figma/XD natron = after-effects cinelerra-gg = premiere ffmpeg = adobe media encoder audacity = audition scribus = in design qpdf = acrobat zathura = acrobat-reader docuseal = adobe sign Hope you have a great day and Safe Travels!

I've been using Linux and all of it's distributions and their endless parade of Linux and all of its re-spins on top of re-spins on and of for the majority of my teens and early adult years. I've got to admit that i much prefer to use Linux and other Free and Open Source projects and yes along the way I've even used both SUSE Linux as well as Red Hat both pre and post IBM take over the first time I even installed Linux I went to the local book store in the town down the road from our house in NJ and purchased a book on pre IBM take over Red Hat Linux I believe it was Red Hat Linux 6.x or something I just cant remember the exact Major Minor and patch level it was but that lead me down a huge period of rediscovery of how you're computing experience should be.

I also really love Linux, but my pc is a gaming pc, I am still a kid, so I don't need to be forced to use windows, but IDK how to adapt to Linux as a gaming pc, also when I tried installing, my pc got screwed up and had to repair to back to windows. As much as I would want Linux, I am unable to actually use it.

"Like people who don't like Star Wars or Star trek" - We need you here king.

@@Insomnia74 I have been gaming in Linux you years now, it works!! If I were you, I would install Garuda, XFCE. None of the wayland junk...it will have everything you need if you keep trying

It's definitely faster but it's not easier for new user when installer spew some things like boot/swap/home/root partitions at you. Some installers do it automatically but some don't. It can be resolverd with watching a youtube video or reading manual/wiki... but is it simpler?

It's a tad more involved with Arch, but yes. I just like that it stays out of my way.

@@gor. It is just a new experience, new things can spook conformism.

Its not been my experience that it's easier though tbh. Not always

@@yogurtColombiano nah, disk management is pain.

Or you just cron everything up, and you don't even have to maintain your OS.

Debian is def a good choice. I used to be big on Debian but used Pacman once and fell completely in love. (Paru + hooks = easy updates)

I've tried Debian, but I couldn't get everything to work. I use Mint and Feren.

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​@@Sonya_Makepeace Have you tried Debian 12 Bookworm? Debian is known for it's reliability, not so much for it's flashiness and modern features, but Debian 12 is by far the most modern version of Debian ever released. So, if you haven't tried Debian 12 you should certainly give it another shot.

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How do you play games?

I don't play games,but for those who do there is Steam and Proton and contrary to common belief Linux gaming is growing in leaps and bounds.@@bluedark7724

@@bluedark7724 The overall amount of games compatible with Linux out of the box has actually increased the last years. Steam has a good selection of Linux compatible games now days and Proton can work quite well for a good chunk of others. Wine can sometimes be pain to set up and configure properly, but if you do, you might be able to run quite a few more games that way (some stuff like playonlinux and lutris might help you out here). If your PC is good enough, you can also (as a last resort or even just a security measure) make a Virtual Machine and install a different system there (like Windows) and run programs (including games) there. That way you can still use Linux as your daily and preferred OS while having access to nearly everything a Windows user has (limitations would be on stuff like games with anti cheats that make it flat out refuse to work under a VM, which are more often than not the same ones that rootkit themselves and use it to embed themselves so deep on your system that you can't ever remove them unless you straight up nuke your OS, or stuff that is just too heavy to run on a VM on your PC) and also keeping Windows under a strict control while only having to deal with it when you use your VM. All that won't make every single game work on a Linux system, but should be more than enough for the majority of them (Steam alone already covers a very respectable amount of games to be honest).

Steam with proton

Maybe when we have an actual left in the USA, and not a bunch of rainbow cultist LARPers who will gladly vote for another Ronald Reagan as long as they're the right gender, or say their "preferred pronouns." People are mind slaves to corporations in the USA. There's no hope here, just ideology and psychopathy. Anyone that actually tries to fight corporate overreach gets a McCarthyite moral mob at their doorstep. The big money controls the counter culture, thus there can be no true rebellion.

Again you mean, they lost one antitrust suit over this with IE/netscape, but it had no teeth and MS was allowed to just basically ignore the consequences. (DOJ allowed them to settle by basically saying "ok, fine, we'll allow other people to make software for windows") When the law has no teeth vs those with money why would any company bother to follow the law :/

@@1Raptor85 They didn't lose the suit. The DoJ for all intents and purposes dropped it he moment Bush Jr. got into office. It was pretty much guaranteed. No neo-con from that era of politics would ever let fair lady "free market" be deflowered by monopoly busting. These days the dems are even worse than the pubs, so there is basically no hope anything will ever be done about any of these corporations. People would rather whine about gender and start pedo panics than actually do anything about the out of control billionaires and businesses.

@@1Raptor85 Yep. The penalty should be upped to the entire Windows OS source code becoming public domain in my opinion. That should get them to stop. If they don't, one can fork Windows into a better operating system legally.

Why should they have to give competition equal opportunity? It's like forcing McDonald's to sell whoppers

Windows is designed to control the user and steer him to certain buys, not to be controlled by the user

That is the primary main reason eyesight that I have been happy ever since. I left windows 100% as of July 28, 2020.

@@motoryzen Massive X

Yes, and yes. What pushed me over the edge was when I got a 2nd laptop for lighter work that I can do anywhere without having to take my gaming one everywhere, drive was automatically backing up and replacing files across the board, so program files that we're one was automatically placed on the other, and I didn't want that, so when I deleted them on the one, it got deleted on the other, essentially screwing up my software. I decided to jump ship, happy ever since.

@@morpheon_xyz If we wanted those files on another PC, we can setup a file share or transfer them ourselves. That really drives me buggy about "One Drive".

Hey!! I learn a lot from your channel as well, can't wait for more new videos, even though you are trying to slow down

@@UC6qD6l0DtdcX7lFnXrIhpPg i'd agree with you, if it weren't for ms forcing more bloated garbage with every version. And not only that, if you wanna talk about requirements, how about having control of your OWN system?

@@UC6qD6l0DtdcX7lFnXrIhpPg The bloatware i am referring to is stuff like the terrible Cortana assistant, OneDrive, the gunk that accumulates after only 1 month of use and the way the OS itself is built. You can disable it, i have never said that you couldn't. But to put it simple, just by the fact that these things NEEDS to be disabled just to make the experience slightly better, rubs me the wrong way. And good luck having to disable all of that all over again, when you update you system. Also the telemetry aspect of it, being extremely annoying to mitigate, requiring 3rd party software to manually turn it off one by one, says a lot about the people that made it. This is something i cannot fathom ever being a fan of. On Linux Mint and other distros, none of that was ever a problem. The things that did not work I had the power to fix it. Simpler, faster and powerful. That's the difference between a corporation focused on making as much money as possible vs community centered distro + software. And this is coming from a person who has only used ms products all of my life. I could go off about the security aspect, but i guess this is already enough to publish a book. Early on i had forgot to mention that my Laptop, that has an i5 (not the best, but also not the worst cpu out there) + 8gb of ram, already came with w10. If you wanna see what Linux is really capable of in terms of customization, just search for "r/unixporn" (i know reddit booo)

And that some of them on Linux even have tabs and have had them for years, which Microsoft just recently got in W11

or require specific configs on your motherboard for the system to boot

And that installing an app doesn't depend on a 'registry', or... really, _so much_ of what Windows still does in 2024 is based on software frameworks that are almost 30 years old. It's frankly absurd that Microsoft just keeps building on ancient, creaking frameworks that should have been scrapped by now. It's like putting bits of body-kit and new layers of paint on a 1924 Studebaker and rolling it out as a "new" model every five years. At some point, just _build a new fucking car_ already.

most people really don't care about tech. they just want to go to the internet. the ones that do care in minority.

I guess that’s why I view Linux users as annoying vegans. Always trying to convert you and they have the issues with you using/eating what you do.

So suporting Linux becaue ou hate Micosoft. Yeo defeinetl based and not a bad habit

@@alexlehrersh9951I don't hate Microsoft, my machine was a Windows machine till I had to buy new equipment for Windows 11 and decided to switch to Linux. Best move I've done. I have Windows 10 on 4 cores and 16 gig memory machine at work, I have 6 physical cores and 32 gigs of memory and I couldn't run Windows 11? Microsoft pushed me into this choice and I thank them for it.

I tried that on my children. Do you want Linux preinstalled with your pc? One of them said yes, and then asked wtf is all the games

@@tecTitus tbf right now it's kinda easy gaming on linux, protonGE runs any singleplayer game i could think of and enough online games for my needs. I recently installed linux on a younger brother's laptop (it's a bit old, it couldn't run two programs at the same time on win10) and he's actually loving it. Definitely would do the same if i had a child

@pa-dn1vh yes, Windows never breaks after updates. And starting updates right in the middle of holding a presentation? Absolutely unheard of!

​@@Sora-zb8kv A huge problem with that is a lot of kids are used to social media with easy, intuitive UIs but Linux distros tend to come shipped with programmer art UIs that are at least 6 years out of date compared to the UIs everything is using now. Sure, you "can" change it yourself as much as you'd like, but many children would find it hard to even navigate in the first place let alone change the UI themselves. Linux has great potential, but it's just too unpolished (graphics drivers another example) and has issues with program compatibility too often for most children to enjoy it.

@pa-dn1vh Yeah, I plan on being an engineer in the future and might have to do a lot of the same; since Windows isn't too hard to get and compatibility isn't an issue, Linux just won't cut it - not only in corporate but for industrial stuff too unless you develop your own software. I personally don't have much of an issue with Windows though so it doesn't bother me.

not with Tuxedo machines!

@@thomaslechner1622 Their shit is overpriced. Not buying a laptop just for OS lol. EU customers can find better options locally.

@@onno_vocks Yeah, they really should. I've only done it in physical stores, where they often don't know about it either, but will usually check, confirm and then oblige.

Shame. You're missing out!

a update that microsoft pushed out was the reason my pc got bricked. i went to linux debian. not once has my system bricked from a update. or at all. hell. its the best choice you can make. hell you can even use wine for windows apps. your missing out on linux. you can even run mac apps too. linux is better then you think@@CustardCream22

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Dammit this has really made me want pizza for dinner

What type?

With some pinneaple and ketchup!

@@DanielCastro-ok8zbketchup?!? As well as the usual pizza sauce? Or instead of?

As well. On top of it all, my friend!

And guess what? Matt and Rossman are both on Odyssey, and Nick from TLE is on PeerTube, and his weekly linux news are available as a podcast, so if that's all the content creators that matter to you, you'll be okay when UKposts dies because of forcing us to disable the ad blocker.

Just have to show them

agreed

Go to settings => apps => default apps. Find the browser you want to make default. Click on it, and select set as default.

@@wartlme I'm sorry but that's a stupid way for Microsoft to have done it. Every other OS has a drop-down for default browser, including previous versions of Windows. Also, that must be new, because it just gave a list of file types when 11 first came out

I fully understand this issue, home I mostly run windows purely because of my gaming needs, I don't play on console I play on PC, and most of my games don't support playing on Linux not even with the wine and etc... (Think PUBG, BF2042 etc...) I do have a dual boot system setup but recently I been too lazy to switch when I want. Also, with the WSL and WSA windows has become a multipurpose OS in my eye's.

you're 100% right on that , most people i know only stick to windows because they play games. my biggest hurdle for years to give up windows was my league of legends addiction , once i got rid of that shit, i became a free man :')

My fandom and likeness is too good, that I have completely given up gaming, heck I am regretting buying a gaming laptop in the first place, could have used something with more battery performance

I got rid of windoze permanently 4 months ago, after exclusively keeping it around for gaming for the past year and a half. I can game on Linux just fine: league of legends, OpenArena, Citra, Cemu, et cetera all work well. I can also easily swap workspaces and recompile, edit some code, and generally be productive while I'm playing a game, and actually have my mic sound decent since I can easily pipe it through noise suppression stuff (EasyEffects). Kernel level anticheats will absolutely never be a thing on Linux, though it might be able to be faked at some point. easyanticheat and bottleye are compatible with Linux, and so a large amount of games with anticheat can be played on Linux. The only things that I can think that I've thought might be better on windoze are printing (mine's been a massive pain to try to use with Linux) and PDF editing (reading is fine though, in Emacs and/or Firefox). But otherwise, I don't miss windoze at all, and have absolutely no reason to ever use it again, especially as these are rare things that should soon should be total non-issues.

Native linux support is not likely to ever happen. Proton is whats made linux so popular.

I was playing around with GNU/Linux in uni, and I was already doing some technical stuff in Windows. I absolutely hated GNOME and thought I hated Linux. Then I tried Kubuntu. Before long I was ready to get rid of Windows entirely. No regrets. Now I'm one of those weirdoes who isn't happy to merely use a bizarre OS, I also have to use a tiling window manager. It's only a matter of time before I start compiling my own kernel.

Doubt it, more likely it was because of the Steam deck.

@@simplyblunder You're quite smooth brained

@@gato-rs how so?

Both are right. Obviously there is financial interest behind the steam deck, but also, who says Microsoft will not do this with their own Xbox store against Steam in the future?

@@simplyblunder valve has been trying to make gaming on linux a thing since *long* before the steam deck, because they saw the possibility of the microsoft store killing their entire business model. hell, the first steamOS was released all the way back in 2013. they've been at this for a while.

I get so tired of seeing people complain about having too many choices. And often these same people remain complacent enough to stay with windows and have no choice at all. That is completely asinine thinking. Just because there are plethora of choices doesn't mean you can't choose a few of them to try out. You are the problem, not limits, not choices. You are your own worst enemy. If you choose to be. So you have to change your mindset and learn to be patient with yourself and actually try.

Don’t get Windows 11, it is awful!!!. I finally caved in to the pop up and installed Windows 11. It seems like they are trying to make it look like an iPad. It is like a very bad mix of iOS and Windows 8. The only good thing Microsoft did with that - you can easily “roll back” to Windows 10, which I did after 30 Minutes in 11. Now I just have to endure the frequent pop ups to “upgrade” again. I run Linux Mint on the same PC from its own hard drive. Love Linux Mint 😃. I use Windows mostly for work related stuff, Mint for everything else. I am a huge advocate for privacy, another reason I love Linux and open source software. My phone is a Pixel 6 running Graphene OS.

Matt would never recommend Mint 😂. It was my intro distro and glad I used it and learned enough to move to ArcoLinux and within the last month I have resettled back into it after distro hopping. What I love about Linux is it just works. I do have a stripped down windows using ctt scripts to run win 11 for stuff I can't do on windows due to the fact that I need some software that is not available but I am not on that PC more than once a week maybe.

I’ve setup Linux servers, with rdp, and AD management. It’s wonderful.

Did you run cmatrix? It's part of the ritual

@@softwarelivre2389 I did not know about this, but now I feel like I must for my transition to be complete.

@@softwarelivre2389 and neofetch, that is also part of the turtles.

Since the first day of 2020, I have been using Ubuntu for basically everything. In March of this year, my old laptop's HDD died on me and then when I rebooted it was very slow and stubborn. When I got a new computer, the ONLY thing I used Windows 11 for was to download a Ubuntu ISO file and Rufus and then burn that file onto a USB stick I had lying around. Then I initially dual-booted my machine to Windows 11 and Ubuntu, but after I foolishly screwed up the partitions on my SSD when I was allocating space for Ubuntu, I wiped everything and made Ubuntu my sole operating system.

What you explain is a fact. However, Canonical little-by-little. Has been pushing to try to become Microsoft. In their philosophies. It really would not surprise me. If 1 day they make it to where when you perform those steps that it will inevertly reverse them. Given that I use Linux mint and have on and off since late 2010, it is for this reason that I look forward to Lennox minute Debbie addition. Becoming my replacement someday for lenox mint cinnamon.

It is above all a problem of school education and market shares. In almost all institutes, the computers supplied all run Microsoft software, and students are educated to use that rather than open source systems and programs. Furthermore, the fact that almost all non-Apple computers are sold with a version of Windows already pre-installed does not help the diffusion and awareness of Linux. We should act first of all on a legal level, prohibiting the use of proprietary software in schools and public administration (which fortunately already happens in some cases) and allowing the customer to choose which operating system to have installed on the device he wants to purchase .

Check Archcraft 🤌

Music software is still behind on Linux. LMMS has come a long way and a lot of indie games uses it to make music without issue.

@@s1nistr433 I've also heard Ardour is pretty solid as well

Bitwig Studio. It's genuinely better than Ableton Live and a full featured premium product. Linux support included!

Reaper, Renoise, Mixbus, Bitwig, Ardour@@s1nistr433

there r many things that r windows native.not work in linux.but if u need a stable,safe and free system linux is the best.💐💐🌹

I use VS Code on Fedora and it worked flawlessly so far

@@UC6qD6l0DtdcX7lFnXrIhpPg Not true after everything I've read. With Win 10 you could just disconnect from the Internet and you'd immediately get an option to create a local account. With Win 11, this is not true anymore; you simply won't be able to proceed with the installation if you're offline. I haven't done it myself, but read several articles that explained this. There seem to be methods to circumvent this and force creating a local account, but they are more complicated and involved than it was with Windows 10. I really don't see why I'd have to jumpt through hoops for installing an OS just to avoid being forced to use an obscure online account that is used to collect my data.

@@UC6qD6l0DtdcX7lFnXrIhpPg Actually, only the "Pro" edition allows to choose "I don't have an Internet connection". Apparently, this option is not available for the "Home" edition.

​@@bellissimo4520 you may create a local account for Home editions as well, there methods for such. But I'd use PRO personally, Home is bloated with crap anyway. Moreover, I'd be exclusively using Linux by now if my favorite games such as Project Reality were supported (and no, emu won't do it, I lose several FPS). Fuck M$.

I have a dual boot setup of Windows and Linux Mint. I kept Windows for the same reason of thinking Flight Simulator won't run on Linux (or the add one, yoke, throttles, etc won't work). I always heard the Linux distro Solus worked good for gaming. I am installing Solus (technically will have a tri-boot setup) so I can experiment trying to get Flight Simulator running on Solus. This way it does not screw with my Linux Mint which I use for all my day to day computing. (I have also read that Fedora Budgie and Nobara would be good for gaming also).

How are you having issues with macbook hardware compatibility on linux. Every macbook is fully compatible except for the new m cpus

@@flarebear5346 That's what I thought since it's an 11 year old macbook with stable hardware, but the required files are not included in Debian 12.

actually new M cpus are way more compatible, as there on the ARM architecture, which allows much more utilization of resources for Linux.@@flarebear5346

but usually only lower-level distros provide a ARM build. (Although its becoming more and more common again)

@@athorom5172 it's an i7...

It's the same with me; Windows (despite Microsoft's many problems) does provide a better experience because everything just works - and for the times it doesn't, fixing it usually isn't a big tedious hassle. Technically, everything I do right now can probably be done in Ubuntu but it might require a lot of fiddling to get it all to work and the quality might not be as good as at the end - making all the efforts to get it to work all for nothing. Even though I'm not doing too much too much now, I am also going to do more in the future, stuff the Linux probably won't take to very well. Also, I don't care how many people say it, I hate the LibreOffice suite. Technically, it gets the job done, but Office 365 does it way better and it looks better too (not just a little bit better, I mean it's out of the ballpark better). Does this mean I'm just going to not use Linux, no, even though I prefer Windows due to nostalgia and experience, I do judge fairly, I like Linux and It deserves its place as a proper OS, but to say that Windows is a horrible OS (like how many Linux users say) is a big stretch because in a lot of metrics, when it comes to day to day life, Windows is the better option. For example, when I first launched Ubuntu on my PC, I tried to get HyperX Ngenuity. It doesn't work, so I can't configure my mouse's or my mic's LEDs, and I can't properly configure my mouse's DPI the way I like it. Then I had to do my Nvidia drivers. The drivers work, but all the colors are wrong and I've still yet to properly fix it. I have a folder of pictures I use for my wallpaper and I usually have them in a slide show. I got it to work on Ubuntu but surprise, it was janky as hell - I think the app got updated so now it looks better, but this is just my first experience with the OS. Musescore works fine with it, so no issues there, fortunately, and then LibreOffice is just, no. I also just found out that while Minecraft can technically run on Ubuntu, it's a hassle to actually get it running properly - this doesn't seem too bad at first, but Minecraft is my favorite game to play. I'll get it on Linux to see how it is, but this shows that game compatibility is an issue unless you have Steam - fortunately, I have Steam, but some games I play aren't from Steam, and these games I play A LOT. Even though I like Ubuntu, it's not really giving me the best time as of started to use it a few months ago. I don't hate it, but if that's my experience from that start, I feel like I might only see more issues down the line. Every Linux user might just say "Use a different distro then" but that's easier said than done. Even though I feel like this argument is overused, there are a lot of choices out there and some choices work better for some things than others. That means I might have to sacrifice one thing to get another thing to work and deal with the issues of another distro; that's stress-provoking. And if something breaks, I'm mostly on my own to fix it unless I can find a person who experienced the same issue I did - this is because a lot of Linux distros don't really have good software and OS support, and the less corporate a distro is, the less support you'll have. It's not that I don't really have an issue dealing with these issues, but I have an actual life to live where I have legitimate problems. I need my OS to work and be reliable, and if every time I have to fix something or brute-force something to work just to get half-ass performance sometimes, it really isn't as reliable as it seems. Listen, I love Linux, I have no ill feelings towards it, but as of right now, I can't fully justify a complete switch over to it. Maybe Linux will get better and be good enough for me to justify it but now isn't the time. Even if the time comes when I can justify the use of Linux, I actually like Windows despite Microsoft's problems, I grew up with it in my household back when life was happy and I still like it to this day (although I could care less for Windows 11, 10 was better). Besides, most Windows users bypass a lot of Microsoft's bullshit anyway - if you thought all of us were completely complying with Microsoft's ToS 24/7/365, then you thought wrong. We're not going down without a fight, we'll still keep fighting to use Windows because Windows isn't the problem, Microsoft is, and we're not going to let them completely ruin the OS that everyone and their mama grew up on. Since I love Windows, I'm perfectly fine fighting against the bullshit so I'm going to fight that fight; the fight to have an OS that is reliable, easy to use, and not Apple.

I Igree. I used Linux and Macos for years, nowadays I prefer windows and I'm more productive, not distro switching anymore. But I learned a lot with Linux ans I still use tools for development and server manager

Ha ha I'm exactly the same when i have to interact with the Windows PCs the Lab analysers I service are connected to. It's even more annoying because most of the analysers themselves have Linux OSs running the analyser.

"Consumers are smart enough" is where you went wrong

@@HyphyHippo Are you a consumer?

Linux Mint or ZorinOS are probably the two best beginner distros. I prefer Zorin

People like him are the biggest reason that people would not consider switching to Linux in the first place.

kde wayland is probably best with this. kde has the most advanced taskbar by far. Wayland fixes a lot of the display issues. cinnamon is very lame and is missing a lot of features. KDE is much better. But yeah I use windows too

Fully embraced the poison pill. X on your whole story

I switch to Linux in 2003. I never stopped gaming, I just changed how I gamed. I game with Linux games. All Linux games created for Linux work 100% in Linux. Those are the games I play. So I can enjoy gaming on Linux. Linux games and have zero problems gaming. Did I stop gaming with AAA games. No, I used gaming console hardware to fix that fix. Been very happy with Linux and never touch Windows since 2003. I only own Windows games from the era of 1995-2003. Was able to played all those games through wine applications. From 2003, I only purchase Linux games. So you can game on a Linux PC. You just have to changed how to game. It works great for me and will never touch Windows every again.

@@gimcrack555 I would if it were just for me, but I value gaming with my friends too. It's a complication to say the least, But, I do realize that games developed with Linux in mind do work as intended. It gives me a lot of hope for the future that Steam takes system surveys, and that the Steam Deck has given a large boost to Linux Gaming market share. Here's to hoping devs notice sooner rather than later. But in the meantime, Gaming is my only use for windows atm.

​@@gimcrack555 well, at the end of the day we got SteamOS and Proton so yeah xD If it wasn't for Project Reality (doesn't really support Linux and likely never will) I'd be exclusively using Linux by now. Fuck M$.

You need to grow up

@@user-kr6ih2gz5l X

Yup, I don't have a Windows install and haven't since 2017. I use kdenlive.

Hawaiian with maraschino cherries pizza is excellent, or Hawaiian with sour kraut if you like that sweet/sour/salty combo.

@@gingered just hurled lol

same! i hate when i have to use it for school because it has problems it should not be happening even if its simple af. slow in comparision too

But Bill Gates literally owns your body in the current year. Safe and effective

As someone who does streaming, content creation on Linux, I don't agree. Now, if you want to say Wayland sucks, that I will agree with. Which is why pros stil use X11

IDK about Starfield, but RDR2, definitely. I have played it with Steam many times.