Once we get a Mainline Linux Kernel we'll have far more gaming potential than what was possible on earlier ARM CPUs like the S922X, A311D, and RK3399! I recommend Micro Linux's UKposts channel for advice on how to get this stuff running.

How does games like Overlord and Deltagal run on here?

Make this video in phone version(8XX,8 Gen x), break the limit feel good

Do you think you would be able to release a script of all those steps you took?

Yes, and... no? The solutions so far I've seen use a hacky version of VirGL and Venus passthrough to a Linux ((container)) and runs games through. Super Hacky with some serious performance issues.

Closest we have to that is Surface Pro 9 5G

Sadly drivers for ARM SoC GPUs are pretty pants. Either they have serious bugs or performance issues or both. If someone designed a console from scratch with their own drivers (ala Sony PS4/5) then I'm sure it wouldn't be an issue.

I tend to think and work at the microcontroller/DSP/FPGA side of things... I don't think many people realize just how poorly optimized most computer hardware is, these days. Back in the 80s and 90s, the cost of new hardwarw was considerably greater than the cost of optimization, particularly because things were still comprehensible from a human standpoint. Memory mapping a 386 program might get a bit crazy, but you could do it and follow things through the registers. The newest ryzen comes with... what... 40+ megabytes of cpu cache and has 32 integer pipelines and 16 floating point/vector units? That's a big flow chart and a lot of graph paper. Even the modest arm cores these days are 4+ core ... amalgamations of integer and floating point units with different instruction sets and then some kind of GPU attached. The fact that a pi pico (rp2040) can run doom at native resolution is kind of insane. We will hit the die shrink limit before 2030 (avoiding the end of the world, provided) and while there will no doubt be hardware innovations from there, it will be really interesting to see what comes from coding optimizations.

@@Aim54Delta optimizations don't sell processors though. AMD can't say "look what OTHER people can do with our stuff" they need to say "look how fast OUR stuff is"

@@MrGamelover23 The lattice constant of silicon is something like 0.7 nanometers and we will be at 1 nanometer market standard nodes by 2030. While we could explore some novel structures or semiconductors to try and get more ideal performance or pump higher powers... we're soon to be at the end of simple performance gains. We either will need some variety of new paradigms of computing operation or some kind of new physics paradigm... some force or process completely unknown. Even then, whatever that is gets instantly incorporated at the current nanoscale fabrication paradigm. If a diamond processor is radically more powerful in concept, then we roll it into the state of the art fab processes and don't see the incremental improvements like before. This is also why I suspect we will see more open source programs in the future. AMD was ahead of the curve when they split off their fab process. Already, die design and structure has become significantly more important than raw performance. We saw this as far back as netburst vs k8 (which was my stomping grounds in pc building). Branch prediction, cache efficiency, and instruction set features are considerably more important than raw hertz. Performance may be a bit more difficult to market, but it certainly sells and the market figures out what it needs ... for the most part. Performance can be a bit relative, and we have seen divergent designs - power efficient designs, 'gaming' designs, and network/data designs. Even going back to netburst - while the K8 kicked the bejeesus out of the netburst cores in gaming performance - if you wanted to render raytrace scenes or compress/decompress data, the design quirks of the netburst paid off and made it vastly superior in those tasks. Kind of like how an ASIC or FPGA can run circles around graphics cards in sha256 hashing (which is why cryptoknight is used for monero, the algo isn't as easy to vector through a pipeline). For comparison, the first computer I built was an Athlon 64 3700+ (k8) on a 939 socket clocked at 2.4ghz with 512 megabytes of memory (4G max, which I ultimately upgraded to). The graphics card was an nvidia geforce 9700... with 256megs of onboard vram if memory serves. Back in 2005. The $200 fanless laptop I bought a year ago uses an athlon silver which is basically two improved k8 cores at 2.4ghz. It's hard to know if the embedded graphics core matches the 7900 from 2005... but I expect it probably kicks the crap out of the first computer I built in most regards. The banana and orange pi examples I bought to play with as raspberry pi competitors come with generally more powerful hardware and all of them each possess the kind of raw computing power to automate the entire factory I work in (in principle, at least). We're almost at the point where improvements in computing performance are only critical to a certain set of the market, as most of what exists, today, is more than capable of most things people use computers for.

Arm probably doesn't make sense on a pc.

@@shlokshah5379 really? its way more efficient, could result in cpus getting so much faster. if code is compiled for arm then arm pcs may actually make sense.

The prices are insane.

If the translation was good enough, an ARM chip would be the best chance to get something that had significantly more battery life than the current Deck. This processor was ~$40. Snapdragon processors that are $100-$175 are monsters in terms of what they would be able to do.

@@TakiUdon And IF that happened, how long before something like HoloISO was available for other ARM based devices and platforms? I'm going to be nerding out to this idea all weekend. Thanks again for all the incredible work!

@@iG34RH34D you might wanna check out chroot, termux, exagear and other stuff

@@iG34RH34D here is Witcher 2 running on Box86 on Snapdragon 845 phone ukposts.info/have/v-deo/g2h6laWArot7mJ8.html

Them the "Nintendo Switch Killer" tagline would finally be true

If only Apple would release Apple Silicon in a handheld gaming form factor…

​@@MaddTheSane Apple Silicon would be killer in a gaming handheld, but then driver support would still be ass unfortunately.

Too bad nobody makes good GPU cores for ARM. Nvidia could do it but they don't care.

@@xomm Apple's GPU core sucks bad. Apple fans just sweep that fact under the rug. A Steam Deck has a much better GPU core and doesn't eat much power either.

@@KAMiKAZOW amd already made gpu chip with collaboration with Samsung but don't think another exynos rdna chip will be released though cause Samsung mobile decided to use Snapdragon to all their product

Yes, but we still need Mainline Linux Kernels.

​@@Pridetoons How long to see the first Android based handheld with this soc? Q1 2024?

@@danileo13 we dont know yet, Hoping Retroid Pocket 4 will feature this

Oh, hello. I've seen you a few times.

@@ca9inec0mic58 One can only hope, but I guess we'll get a Helio G99 or sub-dimensity 900 Performace for the RP4

Check out Nico D and Micro Linux's Channels. They make videos on running programs and games on SBC's.

Rumor has it that Valve's new VR headset actually has an arm chip.

​@@MrGamelover23it will be fully wireless too i guess

Go check out the insane pricing.

I mean if the steam deck had an ARM cpu with a decent GPU in it and with some actual money behind it, the cost would be lower the performance might even be better, its like the version of rainbow six siege that they made run on an ARM CPU years ago and it was hitting really high fps. This is something worth funding and would change gaming for the better

@@nolo1337 Yes, exactly that... This would be amazing for handleheld devices and even better "console" like devices to be used in the living rom like nvidia did with the Shield TV it was(kinda of still is) a banger at the time, but was too propriertary and had no PC compatibility whatsoever.

That's because companies are tired of pulling out devs from common game engines that works in one specific os with one specific architecture and one specific api despite how superior cross platform game engines are.

🤣 because Nintendo already does!

@@fltfathin That hypothesis doesn't work because Valve is pushing hard in linux gaming supporting the development of Wine, Proton and other tools. With that being said, it is true that going from Windows x64 to Linux x64 is way easier than going from Windows x64 to Linux ARM64.

I swear I had to double read because I saw "kernel compile" and your name starting with J. Jeff Gearling probably knows a thing or two about this stuff tho :P

It always comes down to software

Try running Bleach bit on the SD card. its likely bloated with OS crap and your test apps. same as old Windows 98 XP Vista on old slow PCs was wonderful out of the box then degraded over time.

@@joefish6091 I'm going to try this anyway, but it's slow on fresh installs too. I'm notorious for using SD cards I found in phones in the tech bin that don't have a speed rating, could be that too.