Man has a weapon, better run then fight

Kroos if he wants my wallet and phone and bag I would give it to him and run

Still making stuff up?

Try to out-run my bullets, muhahahaa...

Well, Martial arts were developed to protect you or maybe people around you. Fighting someone will only result in you being hurt no matter what, choosing to run away is a smart choice.

Yeah, best block? No be there. First lesson; cardio. Human beings are tool users, unlike anime there is no strengthening your muscles until you can resist knives or bounce tire irons off your pecs

@@cwdelschneider No amount of training, even from childhood to now, will make you invulnerable to a 4 inch sharpened piece of flat metal.

Every hit to the skull is cumulative damage to your brain. There is no training against it. @@cwdelschneider

@@cwdelschneider if youre trying to tank getting shanked it just shows your brain is not as trained as your body.

My martial arts teacher is actually very reputable and extremely skilled... but refuses to teach us how to defend against a knife. He said if someone took out a knife against him, he would run, so we should too

Lot's of respect for Taekwondo. I was in a national competition in my first time coming up against Taekwondo and was shocked to find a foot planted in the back of my head while I was still looking at my opponent face to face!

My coach also said if it was a barehand you shouldnt be afraid but the moment a weapon is involved you gotta dip

@@KfcOwner yeah, once the opponent has a weapon, they win. the only way to even the odds is to have a weapon of your own, and use the inherent threat carrying a weapon brings to force your opponent to stand down. if you have no weapon, then they just need to rush you, and you will have no way of defending against it. there was a video made by several professional fighters about this situation, using a red pen instead of a knife. and no matter how good they were, the assailant still ended up scoring several fatal wounds on all of them in 1v1 before they could subdue him or take away the weapon

​​@@houjisaifeddine5524 Your comment is wrong. I know lots of people who could easily win against m even if I had a weapon and they were unarmed. Those videos with the pro fighters you mentioned are a load of crap. Frankly if I tried to attack any of them with nothing more than a knife I would be defeated in seconds and the fighter would walk away unharmed every single time.. Frankly if I was ever attacked by someone who is used to being violent and I had a knife I would make no attempt to use it as a weapon because I know I have absolutely no chance at all - instead but would dispose of it

@@mrx2586 and that's the kind of comment that led a lot of people to their untimely deaths, that is made by a couch warrior who has never been in a fight and thinks they can pull off action film stunts irl. actual professional MMA fighters, who compete on an international level, and who could easily beat both of us in seconds in a fight, still couldn't win a barehanded vs knife combat, even when the guy holding a knife wasn't a trained fighter. all the knife fighter has to do is rush you and score a hit. that's how easy it is to take a life. you have to take control of the knife asap, which is near impossible against a resisting opponent who is intent on harming you, and who has nothing stopping them since the unarmed person has nothing to threaten them with. even the MMA fighters in the experiment expresed how hard it was, and they all ended up taking several hits, including fatal ones, before they managed to fully subdue the assailant. again, those are world class professional fighters who can kill a person with a single punch. an unarmed vs armed fight is unwinnable. don't bother arguing because it has been proven through actual experiments, not a thought exercice like you suggested

Or the art of don’t getting hurt in any situation. Ipractice aikido since 2017, after 3 lessons I fell in the bath of the dojo and I broke 2 ribs (only when I recovered I learned how to fell). This monday I fell off the bike while I was running very fast (I think near 12-15 mph), I made an perfect ukemi no scars or bones broken. Also one time I get surrended thanks to Aikido I’ve learned How to evade from the strike line and so I run away as fast as I can (good for me I’ve practiced athletics for ten years). I think that if I’ve never practiced Aikido in these two case I would been very hurted (excuse me for the eventual grammatical error I’m italian with a very basic english formation)

I got the same from some judo I did as a kid. Can't remember any of the fighting stuff but knowing how to fall has saved me from hospital far too many times.

Not everyone who takes a few years of Piano lessons, is able to play perfectly under duress!

I trained aikido for a few years...then I trained aikijujutsu. Same techniques with different intent. Aikijujutsu does not "care" about the opponent. The techniques are done fast and hard, and are VERY effective. Most Aikido is flowery, watered down, large circle aikijujutsu, and very different from the original 1200 year old battle field art it descended from. It's all in how you train the techniques.

its cuz aikido has little to do with locks. This realization is the first step into aikido

I did that lol. My buddy was like "I don't even care if you move, I'll still get it away". So I pointed it, dropped and rolled onto my back, put a foot in his gut to keep him away and just dumped the magazine into him. He was mad

No you

@no name if the person with the gun is willing to pull the trigger

no name kickback beats gun 50% of the Time

That reminds me of a scene on Andy Griffith when Barney was practicing Judo.

Have you heard of the version of Gun Fu called Shick Shack Boom?

There was actually a movie based on your sensei's style call Equilibrium staring Christian Bale.

who was he kiano reeves

john wick

bullets of anything less than an ar-15 will not kill me. anything less than that will just piss me off. I can take a 9mm or .22 to the forehead/ face and survive it easy, i'll prove it to anybody, just give me some gold for the ordeal of pain and a few xanax and a mid strength beer to remain calm and focused and not give fuks

But its BS, at least the "consistently" part.

@@sword-and-shield you can't just call something BS, you have to explain why i hope your martial arts are better than your debating skills

@@MrShysterme Explain! If you are some newb or don't fight, than you may need an explanation. Which would then be "start fighting" and you will lean the explanation. NOTHING preforms "consistently" against a completely uncooperative, fully-resisting, aggressive opponent. That is why its BS. I got my life of street fighting and 10 yrs of bouncing rank bars when younger for the proof, regardless of anyone's spewage.

@@sword-and-shield Dude, you're just making it worse. You make a claim without any support. I point this out. And now you've turned into I need to explain why I think your claim was not supported. I did not state that I agree with the original comment, therefore I do not have to defend it in order to point out that you did not support your point. The way to address my concern is to actually support your original assertion. This is just basic burden of proof stuff that they should teach in high schools if they were interested in anything but drones.

@@MrShysterme Dude, I didn't make no claim. I stated a fact, maybe you go and re read those simple words in my first post. They mean exactly what the definitions are. Worse, then you were answered in my second post, if it wasn't to your liking, I could care less, it was answered with simple fact. You want PROOF, get busy kid, years of real street fighting is the only thing giving that.

True, I may not be an Taekwondo practitioner, but I did have 2 classmates who were, and let me tell you, their flashy and cool looking spinning kicks weren't gonna be effective in a fight, instead it was how thick and sturdy and strong their legs were. I guess martial arts especially eastern martial arts aren't so bad after all....In fooling and motivating you to train your body. Thinking you'll be some sort of Martial God when in reality you're gonna just rely on your fists, weapons, the Authorities or run away.

No, you don't make up your own, as much as you take from and build a personal skill set around your strengths from experience, IF you live long enough.

Exactly, My dad always told me to run becuase "if the other guy has a gun, you're dead." This is also why I think jujitsu, Wrestling, MMA ect are also as fake as any other. In real fights there is no judge, no ref, no paramedics, no rule and a lot of times weapons. Kahbib is no match for a handgun, Silva could'nt win against 5 guys let alone 5 guys with knives.

@@yutulib7585 That guy is luckly to be alive a few cm up and his bracial artery would have been severed and he would have bled out. It's not a good example.

@@yutulib7585 Even then there is a lot of risks and variables involved when it is a fight for survival. But, i agree if it is a fist fight on the streets.

@@genmaicha.lapsang At least if you have basic knowledge of self defense your chances of survival are higher, so knowing a certain fighting style aint bad at all.

@@Masamune364 It's not bad at all. When I say "fake" in this context I don't mean useless. What I mean is that after 1000 years of explosive poweder weapons and 200,000 years of knives, swords, clubs ect that hand to hand combat doesn't really have a purpose beyoned sports or art. Your best chance for survival in any stiutation is run, or give the the theves what they want. Like i said the guyin the link was maybe 2cm from dying.

True. It sounds like it even with the word "kumete" It almost sounds like mortal kombat.

i thought that too

Um, Mortal Kombat was essentially based on Bloodsport. So that bullshit story is MORTAL KOMBAT's backstory.

More like mortal Kombat copied his story. It was def bullshit but Frank dux tale was well b4 mortal Kombat was a thing

Johnny Cage is literally based on Frank Dux and Jean Claude van damme

This is why I always recommend people do boxing and judo. Footwork and learning how to leverage a larger opponent can save you a serious injury since we almost always swing fists and grapple in street fights.

best kind of footwork is running away

fully agree. In my dojo where I practiced karate, we were also taught aiki-jujutsu techniques and did a lot of combat type training, to keep the focus. I think of traditional karate as a textbook: many moves your body learns and may produce quickly if needed, but a real fight will not look like a kata.

@@ZeroFanfare What do you think self defence actually is? Situational awareness and learning how to read body language is a crucial part of training those sports. Judo teaches you good centre of gravity as well as leverage and pairs well with boxing. Deescelation is great, avoiding the fight is great, but what if you can't?

@@ZeroFanfare Both spar often and apply practically to the real world situations most people find themselves in needing to fight.

And that's the difference between self-defense and fighting! While fighting is one tool for self-defense, it's down the list. Running, using various tricks to avoid a bad situation, or give the assailant your money (if that is what they want) to avoid a fight is always a better option than fighting.

Yup, in that sort of situation, the only other reasonable option is to run, and that's only if you know for sure you're faster than the person with the knife. And even then, unless you're an Olympic sprinter, you probably can't run fast enough to get to safety with the initial surprise of you suddenly turning-tail and running before they throw the knife at you or something.

Wow wish my sensei was that lol. Mine told me I was a failure because I had to quit for college

That depends. Some styles simply aren't meant for competition while others are actually "designed" with competetive regulated sport in mind. But basically you're right - if that statement is actually used, thats likely bullshit.

@@dcjxd i.e. the military styles he was talking about. Chances are if you rip out a mma fighter eye you'll go on to win the fight, but not the court charges.

@@dcjxd just to tack this on. It's very very unlikely any style like that survived without being in military use. Pretty much every old martial art had moves that aimed to maim or kill, but once martial arts became an exhibition/competition/"self defense" most were removed from even practice, much less use. It's why submission arts and sporting arts stayed affective enough, while martial arts faded, the original style wasn't meant to just beat an opponent, and when you remove those fangs it becomes a half-assed shell of what it once was. Hell look at kendo. It'll get your ass kicked against anyone who has a weapon and half the people that don't, and meanwhile it was something soldiers once used to defend their lives with before it got turned into a sport(name also changed for this one tho). The old-school martial arts were once meant to give you a fighting chance at survival against armed opponents after you lost your weapons, they typically didnt have a lot of rules to follow

@@Syllaren Exactly. I train Bujinkan Ninjutsu, and my trainer is, luckily, rather progressive. We acknowledge the very stylized Kata as a form of art and oral tradition, but they are not meant for actual fighting. And even though we have a repertoire of potentially lethal techniques derived from traditional warfare and personal protection duties, the basic rule is still: Run, if you can. Nobody is fighting for a shogun anymore and disarming an opponent with a knive may be possible for a seasoned fighter, the risk is realistically too high to get hurt. Anyone stating otherwise is a show off trying to get quick money by selling off worthless black belts for a cheap ego rush.

zeezhz everybody knows you disarm knives and guns by doing a jumping crescent kick with vocalization.

That was funny. Parkour is awesome though.

The old joestar technique of running away

@@p3el_ finally a Jojo reference

As someone who has actively used this to escape a gang fight (me just being random bystander who got cornered), yes parkour is a lifesaver. Would trust it any day over even the most potent combination of mma. After all, all forms of properly trained martial arts only let you spar versus one opponent at a time, in a fair fight. In reality, you almost never find yourself in a fair fight, nor against just a single opponent.

This is no time for a jojo reference ... ITS ALL WAYS TIME FOR A JOJO REFERENCE

Mine said de escalate. Use dirty tricks. Learn first aids.Use anything to hide or attack. Remember it's life and death. Better run,hide or use dirty tricks to survive. If You get injured use the first aids. If the other guy is a Nice guy honorable. Then fight honorable accept your defeat.

Then what?

@@danroberts9050 Then the bullet kills whoever it hits. But it is no touch lol.

Gun-fu

Unless they start catching bullets, which only happens in 2D

Or like just kill the opponent it’s that easy

Ya know it, you can't get punched if you're 1.5 miles away laying there with a sniper rifle

Keyboard warriors can destroy you from their couch.

Unless you're to close or slow.

Mike Myers, in So I Married an Axe Murderer. I always loved that line. Coming from a Scottish Canadian background myself, I can assure you it's accurate.

I think its called " F#ck yu!"

If nobody has guns, you knock them out. If you both have guns, hope that you can shoot the other guy first.

@@daverobson3084 when I first read your comment I read it with a perfect Sco’ish accent lol it sounded exactly like what some of my sco’ish friends sound like.

Being Scottish I can attest to this

Ow

Never judge a fight from the mutts you face, you wont always get lucky.

I have a type of "flak jacket" with nails that looks like a porcupine skin, and I wear it under my regular clothes, just in case I get into a fight. With this trick, no matter how big or trained the opponent is, once his fist hits the nails, the fight is over. With this trick I can win even to a heavy weight mma champion. 🤣

Sounds like great advice. You have a single life, don't gamble it away

Like all beginners..

Jim Carrey!?!

@@afrikanglory8218 yeah :)

@@RandomlyDrumming "It's in the bone. It's in the boh oh oh oh oooone"

"You can't do that in REAL wrestling/karate/judo, so it doesn't count"

MMA in a nutshell, if usefulness is beating the crap out of the other guy

Meh Meh Bruce lee basically started mma

That's why I practice Jeet Kune Do free flowing movements with any style you want to adapt any situation

He'd been proving how useless many martial arts are and have beaten up supposed masters without a problem. He's basically said, the best martial arts is the one you fight in the streets with.

The irony being that this quote is so overused that people forget the last part. Oh and stop attributing this quote to Bruce Lee. As a JKD instructor, at least a legit one, we don't like it that much. It was Sun Tzu who said it, Bruce Lee adapted this principle to his training and then, the marketing people attributed it to him.

Might as well have a crack at that UFC belt then, you should be fine 😂

@@castorchua Maybe if I was 30 again I would.

Did it work.

@@WallNutBreaker524 it is literally completely middle of the line and isn't great or horrible

Spot on. Run, or make it possible to run.

there is a rule zero for that: be aware of escape routes. have rule 2 planned in advance!

Hahaha love it😁😂😂🙂 very wise man😂

In these sorts of things, this is where Krav Maga excels, with rather lengthy teachings on situational awareness. Sometimes the best answer might not even be fight to run, as @Late to the Game pointed out. Rather, a whole slew of lessons after lessons on how to avoid situations, but also, when confronted, by the life that isn't fair, multiple attackers, different angles, weapons, etc, to simply be ready to finish the fight, in the quickest most efficient manner, even if that is lethal, and you won't be able to run from it. Granted, this video was true that to properly master the Krav Maga techniques (which do work in principle), you would have to be willing hundreds of people in practice to truly get the instincts down to a brutal level of efficiency and counters. So in that, yeah, maybe the other MMAs might be good to train you to actually fight. But take the real world practice of extra dangers and situational thinking at least from Krav, I think it does wonders the others don't properly address as well. So, making that a Mixed Martial Art as you will :)

in other words b bomb site rush

It's worth pointing out that Bruce Lee got a very quick and useful education on the set of one of his movies. "Judo" Gene LeBell was an absolute master of judo and at the time was working as a stunt and fight coordinator on movies, and was employed on the set of one of Bruce Lee's movies. Lee and LeBell got into a spat over something that Lee wanted done but LeBelle vetoed for some reason or another and the spat turned into a physical challenge. LeBell destroyed Lee in about fifteen seconds, choking him unconscious. Which is not a mystery as a choke-out is a legit way to win a match in judo and believe me, a good judoka can put you to sleep in ten seconds or less. It's pretty frightening the first few times it happens but it's extremely effective and one reason judo is so useful in real-world fighting unlike most martial arts which are useless garbage. Anyway, Lee was extremely impressed with what LeBell did to him and from that point on he incorporated extensive grappling into his own personal fighting style. He even immortalized the event by using that exact same choke on one of the villains in the movie as a tribute to LeBell. Bruce Lee was all about what was practical. In that sense he could be considered a pioneer of comprehensive MMA fighting. He's one of the few star martial artists in history that was the real thing and could use his skills effectively in genuine combat. Someone asked him once how many boards he could break with a punch. Lee replied "Boards don't punch back." His way of saying how useless board-breaking is if you truly want to be able to defend yourself.

Correct. When I was involved I preferred to use my hands, throws. and low kicks. Flash is just that. But its usually not very practicle

Bruce lee was a charlatan like Joseph Smith

@@justiceforall6412 if you are a boxer yes, if you practiced any body contact sport which involves high kicks and use them comfortably, to stop the force delivered by that kind of kick to the head you have to be wearing a fucking motorbike helmet

@@justiceforall6412 plus kicks have an insane range, double that of punches, and they are lateral blows, much harder to stop or dodge or even to react

So essentially u conned them

not only not happens, he goes to work with CIA as if the intelligence agency would work easily with an AWOL guy that could have betrayed the country

Well, he did go from Marines to Army, and the Army has always had lower standards for basic enlistment. Don't get mad at me, soldiers, I was Army.

@@ChrisNeilMusic nah nah you right

But his going awol, and going to the kumite, was a Cia operation. So he would have been protected. Hahahaha

@@geetee2694 No, that would've been unauthorized, so he had to get a discharge from the Marines, get the proper reenlistment code on his DD-214, switch to Army, then go CIA. This guy is clearly a badass. I knew SF guys, and they couldn't just work with CIA. In fact, most hated CIA, so you know this guy obviously was legit because, you know, karate. And reasons. Clearly not stolen valor 80's edition.

I would love to hear more about what your father thought of him. You have an insight to a controversial figure..

...or not enough.

@@johngault7329 he (Dux)told a lot of CIA stories. Talked about guns that were designed to fire underwater. It was a long time ago but those were the two things I remember. That he “has been kicked in the head too many times” and the guns that fire underwater and all the weapons that the CIA keeps hidden from regular law enforcement.

​@@Squidaniel the guns designed for underwater use is definitely real, I believe it was originally designed in th3 cold war days, but was mainly used for "frogmen" type units, so the guns real but his conspiracy is bs lol. Wouldn't be useful for local police to have anyways lol

@@ieatthebooty2494 as a frog man currently living in Coronado CA I would LOVE to know more about these guns that fire underwater?

That’s odd because martial artist definitely work. It’s just knowing how to fight. Boxing is martial arts. Muay Thai. Karate. Wing Chun. All got useful applications

He wasn’t trained well then. I mean dude, someone knowing martial arts will absolutely beat someone who doesn’t know. Martial arts is just knowing how to fight. I think you misunderstood the video

@@lightup6751 yeah I'm certain he continued his training... We were only in the eighth grade.

Let's say that fighting even 2 trained and motivated opponents is a huge challenge. If even one of them is armed with a knife then it is almost impossible to win.

@@dmitriikurilov3662 the issue is it is impossible to know whether someone is armed especially on the street. Running away or de-escalating confrontations is always the safest bet. The problem is most martial arts teachers brag about the impregnability of their styles(to gain more students) and mislead their students into believing that they can win against guns, knives and multiple opponents.

@@kabohakevin4103 You are very true. The real conflict situation is much more complicated than just the kicking and boxing part: - How can you be sure that this little scrawny shit is not going to draw a knife and stab you in your liver when you are occupied boxing the ears of his mate? - How far are you going to go in this fight? Are you ready to break the temple bone of the guy, make him a cripple, get yourself into a jail for years and even after release pay for the crippled guy's support?

Well sht, if he fended off 2 out of 3 attackers martial arts definitely worked. His attitude was wrong but that's no small feat.

As they say, in a knife fight the loser dies on the street, the winner dies in the ambulance

he deserves a knighthood

He should be given refuge in a civilised country

rofl i thought it was the fake masters with a docked credit score. How are you going to have your life ruined due to challenging and winning against these so called "experts?!!?" SHOULDN'T IT BE IN REVERSE? Holy crap.

@@nukiesduke6868 He made the mistake of thinking that in China you are allowed to tell the truth in public about an accepted culture.

that's CCP for ya, why would they support a cause that literally destroys a part of their culture? well at least we know the truth now. that those "Experts" are wackjobs.

You sure that wasn't judo? Because it sure sounds like judo.

@@user-sw2nh4ll7h it does, but then kickes and punches are not part of standard judo, maybe jiujitsu

I do karate and tbh thats exactly what we do

"I've yet to meet a man who can outsmart a bullet."

Anime has lied to me once again

I was always taught "if you willingly choose to fight, you will always be wrong." Whether trained or not, fighting should only be a forced hand and should never even be considered.

Even if the person gas terrible aim *im gone*

@@FezFindie Well why dont you ask a bullet what 2+2 is? Bet it cant answer that, then you give the answer and BOOM You outsmart boolit

Underated comment 😂😂

nah only the ones that don't work

I'm sure it's decent exercise.

There is actually no big difference to dancing.

@Mr BuzzKill look up video's of trained fighters beating the shit out of body builders it is quite easy to find a lot of great examples where this isn't true

Sumo is LITERALLY a way of life in Japan.

Indeed, still don't pick a fist fight with one. It might not be made for self defense but they ain't no pushovers.

Another thing someone also probably mentioned is that capoeira wasnt made for fighting it was to be able to fight, since in brazilian prisons you werent allowed to fight so they acted like they were dancing

Yeah but this is the internet, where people are only interested in being able to judge other people based on the most shallow understanding of the topic. In other comments people are trying to say there is no effective Chinese martial art despite China being a military power for literally thousands of years.

@@cautemoc4624 I think that’s because people only think of martial arts as hand-to-hand combat, usually from Asia. This isn’t the case, martial arts encompasses all forms of combat. Learning how to fight in CQC with firearms is a martial art. As is learning how to fight with a sword, bow, spear, and so on. So is learning to fight as part of a unit, be it with firearms or with spears. Jousting is a historical European martial art, so are archery, fencing, and wrestling. It’s not just Kung Fu and Karate, you’re right.

@Jolly Infidel it means you weren't able to run away so you don't get to live another day

@Jolly Infidel true actually, I didn't think of that. Tbf I don't think too often

Im pretty sure rustman from black ops 2 zombies says this

Rincewind's Art of Self-Defence

LOL

The folding chair...always a classic.

Ah yes the chair technique

This would be a great demonstration. Hilarious so you're unlikely to forget, while imparting knowledge of real value.

That one dude in Montgomery is a master at this technique

reminds me of that one bar fighter in Ong Bak with Tony Yaa: I think his name was Mad Dog and he just started to throw all of the furniture at Tony. Even a frickin' fridge xD

Underrated comment

“For his neutral special, he wields the ghun style”

Old history channel bit I half remember from the good old days. " A man tried to mug me saying he was a master of Kung Fu, I responded I was a Master of Ca-Choock, He asked what that was so I pulled out my shotgun and pumped it, He ran off."

The precursor to John Wick's gun-fu.

The effectiveness depends on the caliber of the practitioner along with the accuracy of their strikes.

I would pay to see lol

Game show

moes80 - that’s like hiring someone to assassinate Alec Baldwin because you hate Trump.

Steven Segal is so fat he is practically bullet-proof.

Netflix would green light that in a heartbeat.

Fun fact. The ki blasts in db are supposed to be invisible

@@masknzgamer not true, they basically shoot plasma, which is why it comes in many colors

Damn it! You again, how do you manage to be in all of my comments sections? God damn it

basically LARPing

that would look like southpark imaginary fight

Or instead of training, just try crystal meth

Its like having fashion in wood cutting. Totally useless and out of its place!

Parkour and Jui Jitsu together is pretty fricking neat

@@nefelibatacomingthrough2707 that's freerunning what you are talking about. The og parkour has no fancy stuff, just jumping and adapting to enviroment.

@@iagree3742 Still less efficient than parkour and practical shooting.

@@alatus7242 you right

Real life martial arts movie protagonist

@anonymous on top of declaring him to have losses and ties to save face when he stomped their weak "masters" and shutting down him gym.

The mad dog is the hero we need

Must feel good going into a fight knowing I'mma spark this fool 🤣 hope he gets out of China and makes a life somewhere is respected like he should be

@@kurumachikuroe442 but the hero we dont deserve.

Finally some sense. Its like expecting someone who does fencing to fight with a sword like that in an actual battle.

And through it all, the most effective, practical and lethal thing you learned in all that time was judo. Whatever "zen do kai" is, it's (at best) just martial theory in the vein of Jeet Kune Do/Vale Tudo/MMA with about 20% extra bullshit layered on top. It's a fact: sport fighters kick the absolute shit out of all others, no matter how "brutal" or "efficient" or "designed to assassinate" the other guy's MA might be, and it all comes down to experience. Full-contact competition is close enough to real fighting that every "player" of these sports is basically a guy who has survived literally hundreds of all-out fights with all the knowledge and nuance one gains from such a thing. You could train krav maga for 30 years and be a Navy SEAL capable of turning on the killer instinct like water from a tap, but unless you spent those thirty years as a commando killing people at kissing distance with your bare hands, even an average competitive judoka is gonna make your brutally efficient ass look like a clown in hand-to-hand combat.

@@Avelcaine judo is a fundamental part of zen do kai. Did you even read my comment?

That's not how Zen Do Kai translates lol. Not at all.

@IceFairy Fan ask him if he wanna go

@Alex Amaya second rule.....no u

IceFairy Fan The third rule is that ur dad gay

Yeah, I gonna use nuke for a street fight...epic

IceFairy Fan but there is rules in martial arts

That’s why you never step into the ring with plan. You just punch them in the face. If that doesn’t work. You just hi them harder. Lol

“Everyone gets punched in the face until they have a plan” -Tony Ferguson

Faith*

@Scyth That's an awful lot of words in comparison, especially for sb they called "the great silent one" ;D

Mouth

All of the traditional Okinawan styles are very viable as Self Defense geared Martial Arts. Goju-Ryu, Uechi-Ryu, Kyokushin, among others. Japanese styles are competition based, in which if using say, a Gyaku Zuki, "Reverse Punch" a Japanese practitioner would not tend to follow through with said punch, whereas traditional Okinawan practitioners are trained to punch through their target.

Did you ignore the point about Krav Maga where if you cannot practise the methods safely your likelyhood of deploying those methods safely is also questionable? I understand that kicks to the groin and eye gouging are very effective ways of rendering an aggressor incapable of hurting you but if you can't practise doing so then what hope do you have of doing that when the opponent in fact is out to get you?

@@ruukinen You do realize there are ways to practice that without directly harming yourself or others. For the eye-gouging, you can still go through the motions without actually putting your fingers on your "opponent's" eyes. As for kicks to the groin, protective gear exists. Claiming that you flat-out can't practice these techniques is blatant ignorance.

@@VestedUTuber Going through the motions is precisely why these fake martial arts at first seem effective when viewed through the lens of them fighting each other and why they fall apart when an opponent who isn't following the script steps up. Sparring is the only viable way to prepare for actual fights. I'm saying you can't really prepare yourself to use them since you never practise actually doing so. Even with protective padding you have no indication of what the typical reaction to a groin kick will be. You don't know how effective it is since everyone you've practised it on is padded. You can probably land one but you don't know if one is enough or if you need to follow up. Eye gouging you absolutely can't practise at all and thus I would entirely dismiss it as a viable option except when improvised.

@@ruukinen The whole point of "going through the motions" is to develop muscle memory. Plus, specifically with the eye-gouging, the part you actually have to practice is grabbing the target's head to begin with. As for "not knowing how much force you need to disable someone because you're hitting padding", let me ask you this - are you seriously going to deliberately think about how much force to use in a kick in a self defense situation? No, you're going to kick as hard as you fucking can, like your life depends on it, because chances are if you're in that situation it DOES. Once again, the point of practice with these techniques is to develop muscle memory in order to improve accuracy and reaction times, not to figure out the optimal amount of force to apply to the opponent's ballsack in order to just disable them without doing any permanent damage.

I did taekwondo for years and I got my black belt, no matter what rank we were we were told to run if we had a chance.

@@calciumclansoldier1351 My experience as well. I did it for over 8 years and was always told that. Kids and adults were told the same thing. Fighting is always your last option.

I agree but the decision to run is not always an easy one to make. For example, if you run and can't outrun your opponent(s), or find shelter from them/him then you may end up expending the energy needed to fight him/them.

@@taylorhall9509 In my opinion the overwhelming majority of street fights are avoidable in the first place. It is rare when someone has absolutely no choice but to fight someone else.

@@hanoc101 you have to take calculated risks. It's just like we are told when learning self defense to use our environment to our advantage. So yes of course running in some case may not be the best option. But it should be your first thought before having to stand your ground. I grew up taking tkd and I have never once had to use it and I'm a female. My brother has never had to use it either. My dad on the other had is 3rd degree black belt and has had to use some form of self defense on at least two circumstances in the last 10-15 years. In both cases he was able to avoid an all out fight by knowing how to subdue someone who was trying to harm him... and his line of work at the time was working at a cable company. Martial arts does work with years and years of training and repetition. But the majority will never have to utilize it. Or in a worse case scenario with a gun involved will never truly have a chance

Exactly.....you just have to be strong....

Bull shit

As in One Punch Man?

@@scarletshield009 yes

Based

Every other “based on a true story” movie is probably less accurate to it’s... *ahem* “source material”

To be fair... it WAS a true story until it wasn't. :P

@@TheEDFLegacy it was TRUELY a story.

The key word people take for granted is "based." All that means is that the framework of the idea originated from a true story. Technically, everything fiction is "based on a true story" because the idea has to have originated from a real source.

@@kalsyphr5039 Ah I see so blood sport is "based on a true story". Was that story " Mortal Kombat?"

I feel real disciplines that teach you how to fight properly always teach you to use their teachings as a last resort

@@OMartinez91 100% we were always taught the best ending to a fight was no fight at all :)

My Pop warned me; "Even Goliath got his ass kicked."

So they taught you basic common sense.......

@@Aladinscave Not something that seems for granted to have or be taught anywhere in the first place.

Offend them

@@weaselweaselweaselweasel3360 Only offence is needed, no need to offend.

@@sophisticatedblob3820 Staff martial arts were developed in ancient wartime and rely on the user to carry a staff or spear at all times to be effective. In modern times any effective martial art deals with what you can carry on you. So knife, or gun.

@@sophisticatedblob3820 in your own home where you might not be able to run it might actually help, otherwise it probably won't because of reasons already mentioned. But there you'd have access to blades and you know the place better so you could position yourself to have an advantage, maybe stab them from behind when they enter a room

Nah gun fu is better

@Anonymous Anonymous I agree, he adapted what was useful and disregarded all the BS. He always looked for what was useful in any style, east or west, and how it could be made useful in real fighting. I recently read something that quotes some of Mr Lee's thoughts on traditional martial arts. Here's the link if you like to read. www.scmp.com/sport/martial-arts/kung-fu/article/3038740/bruce-lees-disgust-fake-martial-arts-cowards-revealed

Its just tricking, cool for Powerangers and really fun to do.

He called the kind of sport karate that was around at the time, that wasn't full contact "dry land swimming". It would have been funny if he had called it "dancing", as he was a Hong Kong Cha-Cha champion. He was particularly interested in the evasive techniques of western fencing.

Apperenty he wanted Yip Man to teach him the "rest" of Wing Chun" for the value of a family-house. Yip did not accept his offer.....

@@florianm.h.muller6181 Yip Man's myth has overtaken his reality. People think thise films are goddamn documentaries lol. Anyone who wrestles would smash someone who had zero ground game or sprawling skill, even Yip Man. Double leg takedown and mount = all wing chun obsolete

Yeah it's comedy gold at this point.

I think it's one of the saddest experiences.

@@MarkusJackDijkgraaf It's tragicomical, indeed

@@MarkusJackDijkgraaf comedy is tragic events happening to other people.

And if you would see a true martial artist to use his karate to become a world heavyweight champion in the ufc, you would be salty cuz you would be wrong. Funny thing is, that theory is actually true. Lyoto Machida has been training karate since he was 5 so yea martial arts are and have been effective in combat for years. They were invented by villagers who would get raided so they had to find a system of combat that would protect their women and children Do you really think people back then would rely on a form of combat that that is impractical? No because if they did then their kids would get killed

i love you for knowing this quote

I heard this one before. where is it from?

Yes this brings back memories. hwahh.

Kung Pow. One of these days I swear I'll get through the entire movie.

FOOT TO FACE STYLE! HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT??

Everyone fears the mere touch of Master Bater

Master ken is the exception to this rule

Master splinter, oogway and wu are some of the very few exceptions to the rule

"You claim to be the master of fists... this disturbs me... the road to true mastery is much harder. Let us travel it now..." -Oro to Akuma in Street Fighter III: Third Strike

Unless they're called Ip Man

FATALITY

You spoony bard!

Reminds me of the legend of the Ogre-Thief who specked all into str and intimidation, and when it would fail a stealth check, which it always would, it would just scream "YOU DO NOT SEE ME!" and continue sneaking while the NPCs are petrified with fear. -E The difference is the legend of this ogre is true.

but he did play an instrument... unfortunately they were people he played.

nah, he probably just hit a nat 1

Probably said that because you’d get exposed as a fraud after you got beat.

@@tylerkriesel8590- hard to”be exposed” when you make no claims that could be shown to be false.

Sounds straight out of a cheesy fighting tournament game

*Basket

@Red X Team Stanley knives

Someday I'll fight in the kumite and make my father proud

@@Scribe13013 you will always be a mistake.

You forgot the table

Shit buddy, where do I sign up? :)

@@maxgonzalez214 You can sign up at any bar in America, but there may be a cover charge.

And as Peter Kay would say, if you've got a set of car keys stick them in your hand and make em count 👊

I think you'll find that most barflies are skilled in that art.

"Everyone hath a plan until they get punthed in the mouth." - Iron Mike Tython

@@breakfaith3031 😂

It's like the one about the plans of mice and men but sounds cooler

Lmao🤣

It’s “… in the fathe.”

The Emperor of Mankind that's really funny.

LOL

I think he's trying to sell a tobacco barrel full of whiskey

... Whilst slipping maritime metaphors in to the conversation.

Ill take 2 please

@@ZeroFanfare Dude you do blindfolded speed runs. You aren't a competent fighter. You're a basement dweller lmao.

I've never understood this desire of people to single out Taekwon-Do especially for disparagement. I learned only Taekwon-Do in my teens and made it to 2nd degree black belt. In high school and college, that training won me 3 fights. The first started with me on the ground after a sneak attack and ended after I nearly broke the guy's knee. The second, a 2v1 lasted only until the teachers showed up, but the 2 guys had a few bruises and had never touched me. Finally, the third was a straight-up brawl that was over in a minute after I blocked a few punches and winded the dude with a kick to the stomach. So there's 3 real self-defense combat scenarios where Taekwon-Do by itself proved entirely useful. Maybe it's a matter of teaching. My instructor emphasized individual attacks over forms(katas) and devoted a quarter of the lesson time to spars, where he purposefully unbalanced the matches, like 2v1, matching students with different builds or reflexes, or giving one of us a practice knife. And he always stated the goal was never to beat the other guy into the dirt, but to create a long enough opening to escape. So, I guess we spent a good portion of time on those "realistic scenarios" you mention and it sounds like that isn't a common thing.

Chris Wuebbolt the golden rule is backstab your opponent.

Yup! I probably fall under a "not practical" martial art, but the best thing I ever learned was to just not fight in the first place.

You definitely lose the kumate with that strategy bro.

The very first rule of any practical martial art, is to de-escalate. AKA "run away" or avoid putting yourself into a position that may result in a fight... Don't get in one, lol. In my experience, that's always the very first thing taught.

@no name Not true at all. And even if it was, what power does the word 'natural' give it? lol. If it was 'natural' in the way I think you're projecting it, you'd expect to walk outside and see people on the floor wrestling in every street. Most fights are when people are drunk or high, when people are more stupid and have poor judgement. There's nothing natural about that.

Basically. That's why the best self-defence technique is to run like your life depends on it. Only when you can't run should you actually fight...

@Michael S. You wouldn't get it

@Michael S. Something similar to maff

I actually imagined it in Megamind's Sapce Daddy voice.

@@edim108 wait in Most fight you have to run like you life depends on it because it does because unless you habe a gun or big knife a robber with a knife mugging you will win

It's been said never give a man who can't dance a sword - Confucius

@@khaosknight2010 I think it was Miyamoto Masashi who said that

So true I know black belts who have never taken a hard punch to the face. Total shock to the system when it happens.

@frankos rooni Completely agree. If I had to bet on a rugby player in serious combat with someone from most martial arts my money would be on the rugby guy. It's the reaction to truma. Rugby guy get hit heavily often but have keep going. You can get a black belt and never know the shock of a sweaty 15 stoner smacking you in the gob with all his might. No comparison.

@@TheAndybow1964 I think the problem are these little dojos parents send their kids to. I was in one. It was low to non-contact. You get belt promotions for memorizing sequences and paying more money to enter tournaments. Doesn’t matter if you win or lose you’ll eventually get promoted for going through the motions. I saw a black belt kid in my first month who’s kicking form was dogshit. Dude kicked like a grandma. People just monetized off the martial arts popularity from the 80s or whatever. Real martial arts were actually practiced with real fighting back when you needed to in times of war, whether it was the most effective form or not it was something which was better than nothing. Karate was used in real combat... Mcdojo karate was not. MMA has made a joke out of some disciplines because we have all evolved to figure out which forms are the best, it’s not the fault of the discipline being “fake” but that’s just the natural progression of figuring out what’s most effective with the introduction of mixed martial arts. It’s kind of disrespectful to the old ways tbh. Now we have figured out that western boxing, jiu jitsu, wrestling and Muay Thai are the most effective, we go clown on less effective forms. You don’t see anyone else going around using modern High Jump techniques in the olympics and clowning on the old ways and calling it fake. People need to realize we’ve just progressed with combat knowledge, no need to talk shit about the old ways. It actually was useful fighting knowledge against someone who wasn’t or less trained.

exactly most basic hand to hand the military teaches is all about surviving and holding your opponent till your buddy comes over and shoots him in the head

Totally agree! Just make sure you train with it. otherwise you are a danger to bystanders

nine millametah

Shouldn't brought fists to a gunfight...

Darryl West Thank you for illustrating that voice better than me. That is exactly how he said it lol

I see you've watched Indiana Jones before! Despite that scene being a total goof, there was infinite amounts of wisdom in it... AKA don't show off and don't be an idiot.

The best thing to learn is to read a room and to read people if you see before hand if shits going to go down then leave if you know some one is going to attack ATTACK FIRST Thats one of the many problems i have with "self defiance " classes they say dont start the fight not dont instigate it A fight is won most times in the first 3 seconds thats what they dont understand is that no amount of practice is going to save you when you get knocked down to the ground and been kicked in the liver 3 times

@J Calhoun yea but in my eyes if you do have to fight then stay as long as your safe and make sure you have witness as walking away make it much more likely to have charges pressed If its a a he sayed this and i say this you might at worst get a small fine but if its one sided your at least spending a night in jail

The reason for this is that todays martial arts are no longer killing techniques. Try a traditional one and the result will be different.

@J Calhoun What was he training? You can consider China and Japan, of course, the two main countries for far eastern martial arts. For China it was mainly Buddhist and Daoist monks who developed techniques. In Japan, which was at war for vast periods of time, it was also a common part of the warriors repertoire. These techniques are no longer taught in the traditional lethal way. Only Ninjutsu, to which today Samurai techniques had been added and is now Bujinkan, is still as dangerous as it was designed.

To be fair, Hercule was legitimately the strongest Martial artist of his time who didn't use Ki or something.

@@Merilirem yeah, he wasn't Z level, but if he appeared early in dragonball og series, he would actually be somewhat lethal

@@Merilirem He really was the strongest ant in an elephant zoo.

@@natereynolds2783 Agreed. Considering his sheer strength level? Pulling... What was it, 3-5 busses? Tearing a phone book in half? That doesn't sound so ridiculous in DBZ, but in Dragonball, and especially in reality, that's... Rather impressive. Especially the entire phone book, considering how difficult those things are to tear in half.

@@MrJinglejanglejingle Actually it was 3 Phone Books, not 1.