“…constructive and well intentioned criticism can be the most difficult to swallow bc you can’t just brush it off as hate” is such a good, well worded piece of advice

i'm sorry but "pellet gun kelly" sent me through the roof especially since I thought Danny was going to talk about MGK's emo girl song

Pellet gun Kelly got me

Okay but "YOOO UNRELEASE THIS" originally was pretty funny

danny saying "its not easy defending you my guy." after seeing the joker poster in his room is the best part of the whole video

spoken like a true prince of the glory days

I think this guy’s song isn’t bad but I wouldn’t say it’s good either. It could use some work but it definitely doesn’t deserve the amount of hate it has been receiving.

I know obviously this is directed at a very specific person, but that "You can't change their mind by overexplaining why you do something" is some really good advice I feel like I need to take to heart that I've never heard from anyone before.

Honestly, I think 99% of the hate happened because he started the tiktok by saying "did I just write the next emo punk anthem?" or whatever. The hive mind had already sharpened their knives before he sang the first note.

"pellet gun kelly" had me rolling 🤣

This is sad. He is so proud of his song and people are bullying him. It takes a long time and a lot of experience to learn how to present yourself online. He didn't do anything wrong, he just didn't present himself well.

I think one of the big things is his declaration that it's going to be successful before playing that. That primes your alt crowd to immediately be suspicious. The song isn't actually bad, it's just not a hit.

This guy isn't even 2% as cringy as the shit we used to pass off as cool in the MySpace era

The music mostly isn't that bad, it's the framing of "this is the next big thing" combined with the quirky overexagerated acting and aesthetic (like how there are 5 different sound effects when he starts explaining how lyrics work) that make this unlikeable. It gives off the vibe of trying waaaaaaaay too hard and the over the top acting/expressions feel like a kids TV show

for anyone wondering where hes at now, hes actually gotten better

It's like someone showing off a piece of art they've just finished with the caption of "So uh, did I just make the next Mona Lisa or what!" It does not matter how good the art is, there's no way it can live up to that sort of comparison and people are more likely to disagree just because it comes of as pretentious, no matter whether they would've liked it otherwise.

“He’s got a poster of the Joker in his room?” Cut to Danny with an inhaler in the background

I feel that starting that tiktok with “is this the next emo anthem” was the biggest mistake. Any bold statements like that and the like of “if you like MCR you’ll love my band” are destined to not work with the emo crowd. The alternative scene was born out of not liking what everyone else likes, not being who everyone else is, by not fitting in so making it obvious that we don’t fit in. Tell us you made a song you think we might enjoy, that represents your view on the scene. That’ll get way more positive attention. Sure people can be pricks and you’ll never escape the negative comments but I believe there would be way less if it was done a different way

"Wouldn't wanna introduce young people to pop punk" being said sarcastically is actually the peak of comedy, considering the reputation pop punk bands actually get when it comes to young people

As a former emo teenager, now emo adult, this dude looks and sounds like he was frozen inside a hot topic since 2004 and someone accidentally thawed him out

"Did I just reach meme status?" "Did I just compose the new emo anthem?" He's a bit too ahead of himself.. When I see people chase fame with even a hint of desperation it always makes me uncomfortable

I love the legitimate criticism and advice you give him. It's good advice for anyone who wants to start making content as well. You're always so respectful to people as well, even when they really do deserve the criticism. I look up to you so much as someone who wants to be a creator, and also just as someone who wants to be a good person. Thanks, Danny.

"Shirt" and "shit" is a slant rhyme. An example of a perfect rhyme is "shirt" and "skirt". Thank you for coming to my TED talk (probably from 9th grade English)

Great, constructive vid! I was surprised no one brought it up in the TikTok comments, but the song clip he’s using is eerily similar to the chorus of ”Kings & Queens” by Thirty Seconds To Mars, with ”Kings & Queens” being changed to ”princes & princesses”. Even if that’s a reference on purpose it’s too close for comfort. As you said, the rest of the song is also better! He’s got great potential for sure.

I've actually unfollowed some people before because they wouldn't stop responding to their haters in a way that just felt like a huge waste of time and energy. I think you're spot on in saying that a creator like this can't spread a message of not caring about what others think while also trying to change people's minds. Also, I love the respectful tone of this video - that's something I love about your commentary. Entertaining, but always pretty fair and never needlessly mean.

His music is pretty much on par with older “generic” emo music lol. I can 100% imagine early 2000’s emo and scene kids rocking out to this Also GODDAMN the acoustic version genuinely is something I’d listen to, he’s skilled on the guitar

“Pellet gun Kelly” is the most amazing thing I’ve hear in my entire existence of being

this video is the beginning of Danny's arc as a "social media dad." years from now, when hundreds of thousands of people are regularly seeking social media advice from Danny, they'll look back on this video as the inception of an era.

Danny being honest but not needlessly cruel is such a nice thing to see, I feel like a lot of people who focus on commentary try too hard to justify their criticism instead of keeping a fair balance and end up being a bit excessive in an attempt to overcompensate. Good video, hopefully this dude can learn from it. (I think the most important thing to learn from these days is the point about giving people a reaction. Even smaller artists I follow run into this problem where they try to be accommodating and instead people use it as opportunity to dogpile accusations or guilt them into only creating content that person wants to see.)

his music isn’t even that awful. he just needs to reach the audience that listens to bowling for soup outside of the phineas and ferb theme /srs

I listen to pop punk frequently, and IMO this song is OK at best, but I think the visuals are where it really falls apart. If you've ever seen a video by Finn McKenty (The Punkrock MBA) you know how important he thinks the projected personality, or "star power", of the frontman of a band is, and I tend to agree with that. This is a one-man-band (as far as I can tell), which makes his presentation even more important when he decides to include himself in the video(s). To me he comes off as disingenuous in the newer videos (including the music video), like he's doing a persona, and the performance feels both forced and understated somehow, like he doesn't quite dare to go all in, because it's not really who he is. (The half assed dance in the "happy pop-break" at 6:08 was especially painful to watch). In the older videos he comes off as more genuine, and even though the music isn't necessarily better, it's at least more pleasant to watch. I get making a flashy video and trying to stand out, but people can smell bullshit from a mile away. The lyrics also seem to be impersonaI, and to me they come off more like he's used a "pop punk lyric formula" rather than write something meaningful himself. I'm not saying this to be mean to the guy, it's just my take on the matter. I do hope he keeps at it and tries to improve, and that he can learn to project himself more genuinely in the process.

"I made this song for young people" "... When we were young" What age are these kids being nostalgic for?

I used to identify as a weirdo, until I was informed the word I was looking for is autistic.

Tiktok literally ruined the subculture that pretty much describes me, when it comes to music. I don’t think they even know what ‘Emo’ subcultures really are anymore.

This is literally the most wholesome and sweet and caring Danny has *ever* been

15 minutes of Danny trying to defend a random dude on Tik Tok while cringing.

i really appreciate how danny gives so much empathy to people he covers. the earnest advice is really refreshing to see rather than just plainly making fun of someone

The song isn’t bad, he’s just too confident

I first heard what he said as "did I just create the new email anthem?"

I think the reason he's getting way more hate than he should is cause he's targetting a subculture that's really big on gatekeeping (coming from someone who was on the receiving end). I haven't visited his profile but I'm honestly so sure that a lot of the people hating on him are the same people that would ask you to name three songs if they saw you wearing a shirt from a rock band Edit: didn't expect a lot of people to agree with me lmao

i don't think he would have gotten as much hate if he hadn't declared the song "the next emo anthem." That stuff needs to happen naturally and agreed on by the community as a whole, this is just like the Trampstamps trying to prove they deserve punk clout

1:23 we were raised on a tree ✊️😔

it’s literally a rip off of kings and queens by 30 seconds to mars

I was really heavy in the pop punk scene in high school and this guy reminds me of a lot of the people I used to hang out with. The internal conflict of not caring about fitting in with the mainstream and desperately wanting the approval of the pop punk/emo community is a huge part of the culture and if you're not immediately beloved and accepted within the community, it's easy to fall into this sort of cringe defensiveness. I feel like that's a little true for every creator, but it's a huge issue in the pop punk community / music scene

Man even if he is just doing satire or a parody, he’s got so much more passion and effort than 90% of anyone else on Tik Tok. The girl who duetted with him literally just sat with her phone right up to her face and said “no”. No effort or talent to do that. Just being really rude for no reason. I respect this guy

danny's hair looks so good in this video fr

I know this video is old, but I think the thing with Andy is he can either make music for the community, or make music for himself and build a community around that. There's nothing wrong with either of those routes, as long as you're enjoying it. But Andy is trying to make music for himself and push that music onto the community, and it's clearly not working out. One thing I think might help is cover songs? It helps you get a better grasp of the instruments and singing styles and what you like versus what other people like.

Lately I feel like Danny has been making content pretty often and regular and I appreciate that. Thank you Danny Gonzalez. We are Greg!

I like this video so much. Just the message of being more tolerate to people trying to express themselves through their art and Danny’s support to this dude, who btw doesn’t seem to be a bad person, is just nice and cheerful. Thank you

I like how Danny isn’t rude with his constructive criticism he genuinely tries to help the person.

6:47 Danny this was the exact way you smiled at me when I saw you in public. I'm now extremely offended and have used up 13 deluxe scented tissue boxes with my tears after finding out you find me as visually pleasing and corny as a Joker poster.

I think he would be killing it in the 2010's, the skits felt like early youtube A little cringey but kind of charming, at least i think that

So his hook of "we were the princes and princesses" sounds incredibly similar melodically to the *30STM* song Kings and Queens containing the lyrics "We were the kings and queens..." I am 100% confident he's a parody cause that's too on the nose Edit: Either that or he's drawing WAY too much inspiration from an 11 year old song lol

"This song slaps on mute" was noticeably funny

13:15 woahhhh, that sounds amazing ;0

Watching again this a few months later, and I just wanna let everyone know that Greg did a great job of filling Andy's comments with positivity and support, and the Greg army is strangling out the hateful comments. Im proud of you Greg.

i really respect danny for actually trying to understand this guy and help him, not just completely hating on him like everone else. this is one of the reasons you're my favorite youtuber!

Danny and Drew are the prince and princess of the glory days.

this song gives me the feel of waking up in an apartment of my own with a sun beam hitting me and then getting ready for the day. Not many songs give me that feel so I guess it has that going for it. I have only heard the first part. I would go playing it a lot as it could kill off that feeling. I think as they get better that they will probably become bigger.

Honestly I really feel bad for this guy. He seems to really be proud of the art he puts out there and I can totally respect that. As a very small artist myself, I know how fucking heartbreaking it'd be to put something out there that you're really proud of only to get that level of hate. It's honestly a pretty scary thought, and I really hope it's something that never happens to me.

Never heard about this until now and I just listened to it. It sounds like Kings and Queens by 30 Seconds to Mars if it were watered down, filtered to the bare bones of lyrical writing, and also sung by Shane Dawson. In fact the choruses almost seems identical in melody if you listen to them multiple times. Which isn’t bad per se, he just needs to develop a bit more of his own sound that fits his vocals in a better way.

7:43 yeah. that’s tik tok for ya

WE MAKIN IT OUT OF 2007 HOT TOPIC WITH THIS ONE🔥💯💯🔥🥶🔥

imagine this guy is actually Danny and he's been doing this for six years 💀💀 the dedication that would take

Ugh. I’m so torn. On the one hand, I definitely feel bad for the dude because assholes on the internet _love_ to take shit waaaay too far. And he most certainly hasn’t done anything to deserve *any* genuine hate. _However,_ dude straight up *asked* everyone if he’d written a classic. Which is a _hella_ bold move. (Especially considering, in _my personal_ opinion, the song’s pretty rough.) So, yeah, he kinda got what he asked for? (A bit too much to the extreme though, that’s for sure!) Hopefully this guy sees Danny’s video (Which I’m *sure* that he will!) and takes his advice to heart as they’re some pretty solid pointers! Best of luck, my dude!

"I guess you could say I'm ken"

I kinda love this guy. Go forth and make the punk scene proud brother.🤘

As someone who was and still sort of is a part of the alt community it doesn’t surprise me how harsh people are being. The alt community is one of the rudest most gatekeeper communities which is why I’ve separated myself from it for the most part.

danny should write the next emo anthem called, “my wife died in afghanistan but i’m still rocking”

Tbh my biggest petty gripe is that his whole vibe & aesthetic is way more scene than emo :/

I can’t believe the unrelease this comments are still going on everywhere on TikTok it makes me want to delete the internet as a whole

"Unrelease this" cracked me up (the first time), but if I put out some art and got that I think I'd yeet myself out of a plane. I don't think a lot of people think about how disproportionate it is to rag on him this hard for so little. They just saw him feeling himself and his song and decided to knock him down. ALSO. The culture of just ruthlessly knocking on people or cringing at them is so exhaustingly negative and it's also like... discouraging anyone from trying things or sharing them if they can't be instantly popular or monetized or perfect beyond reproach. Very cool to see a more down to earth and chill commentary

To be honest I reckon he'd do realllyyy fucking well in the hyperpop genre, he has the visual aesthetic, the voice, pretty much everything.

I fell asleep watching Danny and woke at 3 am to 6:09 and the nightmare on the screen. Slammed paused right as Danny said, "What tf?" as I too went wtf??? Why that shit scared me and I couldn't go back to sleep for like 10 minutes. 😂

honestly taking this song and making it more of a "wake me up when September ends" vibe I'm sure more people would enjoy it. honestly the convoluted message he's giving after the fact sucks but if the good intent is there, then that all this guy needs.

The people who are saying this is Disney rock really needs to take a step back and realize this is literally exactly how the majority of pop punk songs are.. people are just nostalgic to old emo music and refuse to believe it’s not actually as heavy and dark as they remember it being when they were angsty teens (Edit) Let me add there is nothing wrong with old emo/ pop punk music, it slaps but common guys it’s not far off from this…

Its... weirdly kind of nice that a huge UKpostsr like Danny just randomly takes the time to make a video giving advice to a small creator on TicTok

I checked his channel now. He’s pretty successful and all of the comments are good. He clearly listened to this, and his music is also better. All it takes to make someone successful is Danny and the Greg army.

Tiktok is so rude fr.💀

i think the biggest problem with the guy's music is he seems like a rhythm guitarist, the type that learned music through singing over acoustic guitar. which is great! but you cant always just take something that sounds good with acoustic guitar and vocals, slam it out on electric, and then sing louder and hope it works. ill bet you ANYTHING he composes on acoustic guitar, relying on his more practiced skills. i do that too, but it's not exactly easy to write electric guitar pieces with an acoustic instrument. that acoustic ballad version of the song is great because the guitar and vocals work together to create a flow. in the electric one, hes using power chords, and longer notes, and he doesnt change the vocals. it just creates an awkward mismatch and it makes it sound like he's singing off tempo. just one notch better at making music, like danny said, and this guy would have it in the bag! he's just missing the mark a little bit on the genre and on a consistent genre, instrument to instrument.

I've grown up on commentary youtube, and honestly, I am so happy it's taking such a positive and lighthearted turn as we all get a little older. I think the community has grown with the genre and this vid is a really good example of how you can be funny while not being mean.

just start the video with the song. like could you imagine if a youtuber’s intro was “did i just make the best video ever??”

1 year later and the poor dude is still getting hated on on tiktok even though his music really isn’t that bad. Ppl just don’t like things that are different unfortunately. And of course his marketing isn’t top notch so it makes it even easier for people to find things to make fun of

I'm so glad Danny didn't just blindly roast this dude like everyone else. Sure, this song is not very good, but it's not THAT bad. Besides, we all gotta start somewhere, and it actually seems he put some effort into it.

“He has a poster of the joker? Getting kinda hard to defend you my man” *Danny says as he sits in front of a poster of himself using an inhaler*

I think a little bit of support from a vocal coach could help him find the good spot between the alt type of music he really seems to want to make, and the acoustic style that better suits his voice. Nasally voices like that are a token of the pop punk scene, so it makes sense that's what he's going for, but it sounds like some of the technical skill that lets certain singers make a nasally voice sound good is a bit lost. It's not a lack of talent, just a lack of experience.

Every time my social anxiety makes me believe that everybody hates me, I just look at people like this on the internet and how people react to them. It's like therapy, but solely relying on other people's misery

Danny gave him a whole PR meeting for free.

I think a big part is that he’s pushing the one song as if he’s an established artist with a new single, as opposed to an enthusiastic unsigned artist. If he released TikToks about his process of writing and recording *other* songs, it wouldn’t come across as so defensive, and he could actually seem to progress as a creator. Going for a “hey, what do you think of this new chorus/lyric/idea” would allow for him to react to feedback, as opposed to spending his time trying to argue about the qualities of his finished song.

I really like how you give constructive criticism too because so many people just say nasty things like ik he’s not for me but let’s not waste our time hating some random dude

The fact that he says ‘princes’ like ‘prin-sees’ is so infuriating for no reason

The biggest mistake he could've ever done was say "Did I make the newest emo anthem?" because it immediately got himself to be compared to the likes of MCR or PaTD and have his starting song be compared to The Black Parade, which... No, nothing can really be compared to that album nor its most infamous song. It's not just because the song feels like it's going off of scene music rather than emo punk rock, it's also because it's not... unique? Or out there, in terms of the emo nor scene genres. I think he definitely has opportunity. If he were to go back to his laid-back and grounded self and made his own style, I think he'll be able to find his own community. I will say, though, TikTok is very prone to harassing people and repeating jokes that aren't funny after the first time. I'm not surprised that happened.

the biggest mistake was the "did i just make the new emo anthem?", that immediately raises the standards of what to come next and by failing to live up to those expectations hes bound to get a more of a negative response than if he hadnt done that

the "we wanna have a good time" part IM DYING

8:42 bro sounds like young Sheldon 💀

I feel like if he had released this 10/15 years ago, he would have had a much bigger fan base because it's not so out of place for that time period as it is now. Like it's not awful, it's just not as good as the hype he tried to create which is part of why people are reacting negatively. I'm sure if Andy kept working on his style he'd eventually find more of an audience that digs it

"They're not talking to you, they're talking to themselves" is a pretty good assessment of internet hate

great value TX2 😭

tiktok acts like he’s cringey for being emo/punk when they have completely changed the definition of those things

When musicians on TikTok start a video by saying “Did I just write the next ______ anthem?” Or “Did I just make up a new genre?” They have practically invited everyone to viciously humble them. I cannot imagine a faster way to get everyone rooting against you