But if you are Mecedes, it's OK

@@ronsilverstone6817 FIA banned Mercedes' pseudo active suspension around 2016.

@@ronsilverstone6817 *perhaps*

They're like, "We are the most modern form of racing, so let's discourage innovation."

Combining two memes: *cha cha real smooth*

Team come up with good idea. Implement good idea into something that can be used on their car. Car does better. Everybody tries to copy it. FIA bans it. The circle of F1 "innovation".

@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Almost spot on. Everybody tries it, yet they still fail... Then everybody cries then FIA bans

this is why i don't like F1. would be so much more interesting if they didn't ban everything.

@@oneofthoseguys4936 All it takes is for Ferrari to cry to get a ban, unfortunately.

@@echobounce2945 I understand having rules, but the pattern is that rules are set out at the beginning of a season, one or two teams innovate something that doesn't QUITE break the rules, then everyone who just lost the race cry foul. Also some of the innovations are sometimes legitimately dangerous.

Yeah bit of a shame that one.

some oversimplified action

Ferrari International Assistance

@@Lazbotable oh how things have changed🤣

Mclaren's solution when Ferrari is ahead = send engineer's wife to Kenko's

I think that today isn't Ferrari but Mercedes

Ferrari international assist AKA FIA

Literally

@@michelebalogh2829 more like red bull

more like "Hamilton: I don't like it" nowadays

FIA: Wait, that's illegal!

New to racing, are you?

unless the team is called Mercedes

@@Nefus1988 or Ferrari

@@IIApollyonII no they changed the tyre policy in 2005 to stop ferrai

Well, tbh FIA bans where caused by the majority of the other teams that started protesting all these innovations...

well it is legal before and now it is not... alot of tech can not go on real car since it not on a race track and you can not go fast to get those effect...

luuk341 called, he wants his joke back

@@cucumber_zucker Because there's nothing on the current regulation that regulate the steering wheel, lol. Not like what (commonly, I don't say all) Ferrari fans theorized, they're not just wheelie-nilly on banning parts, it's always because of the regulation that in works at the time (which is pretty ironic coming from a Ferrari fans, but that's just my opinion.) That's also the reason why DAS is banned next season, because there's already a regulation about the steering position even before Merc revealed the DAS.

To be honest in the pursuit of speed and downforce, eventually it gets too dangerous, the old ground effect, and wherever fans would have lead would simply be death traps

downfloorce

😂

gotta love that discovery of ground effect

Brabham: B I G S U C C

Mustakrakish yea f1 is so boring nowadays

Not at all verstappen and leclerc are good

Chorisiyo mongolo They are. I’m a fan of both. Have you seen this season tho?

ng jason has

Its good these days, the young drivers are really interesting and actually bring something new to f1

mercedes:hi fia:hi

Zafer Arslan accurate.

lol 1k likes 3 comments 😂

Or as it’s more commonly known Ferrari Banned. Any race team trying any new innovation better ask Ferrari if they approve first.

-breathes FIA: Banned

Ferrari International Assistance

And yet Ferrari does not win a F1 championship since 2007

@@marciolcasagrandeBefore you see how Ferrari is run you wonder how they haven't won everything, after seeing it, you wonder how they win anything.

Yet we haven't won since 2007

Still can't win

But you wanna make a car faster rather than keep their lives in safe hands.there's a reason there were not many deaths and injuries in f1.

FIA: No

@@abdurrahmanusman2498 yes but something like a wheel vibration dampener could be very beneficial at these speeds, so we cant just apply that to everything

@@7kAndyy yea youre not wrong.

Exactly it’s a constructors championship if you don’t want innovation and new ideas they should just make everyone run the same engines and chassis like Indy car.

But half of these were banned because other teams immediately started crying like little bitches

@@fosso8803 Pretty much like you are, by pasting the same comment everywhere on this video?

Cause team donc think of safety, they think about performance

@@OfficialAnarchyz I posted it 2 times.

@@OfficialAnarchyz Which makes sense because there are several top comments that all say the same

But half of these were banned because other teams immediately started crying like little bitches

Nice inventions you have Shame we gonna ban that thing Next season next next season

Fosso no, cause Ferrari complained. F.I.A. stands for Ferrari International Assistance

😂😂

😂👌

*Ferrari

comedy highest level here

Why do you put it as the number 2?

That should be number one.

Imagine it crashing and the weights inside flung out aimlessly towards unlucky bystanders.... Now you know why they banned it.

@@shaami8622 Really.. I mean that's not the only thing that can go wrong and impale someone. I thought the point was to look for safest possible implementation. By your logic, none of the cars should even be on the grid. 🤔

@@shaami8622 I dunno, that seems as likely to happen with any other part of the car in a crash

@@daisaigaming6836 but the wing is made to be easily removable. making it more dangerous in a crash if it had a weight

well, that was because those tyres were square

The 2006 Renault was a smoooooooth operator!

I have a lot of vibration on this seeeeee- set

Lol 😂

Harmless device that improve the cars performance and if anything, made it safer for them to drive.

Hence innovations

Unless you mean ingenious

Henry the title which says innovations

Read the last word of the title of the video

Well they cant call it innovative innovations

No it's because they're french and the FIA hate the french.

@@MediHusky isn't the FIA French?

@@seco000 Of course. I don't see how that is important, but yes.

@@MediHusky they don't hate the French, they love the red Italians...

@@y_fam_goeglyd I know, it's possible to have two things.

in lemongrabs voice. using wing damper is unacceptable, UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How dare McLaren have another brake pedal!

Shut up

FIA stands for ferrari international assistance

A double diffuser that isn't dangerous and doesnt improve the car that much FIA mm that's a ban for me

HAHAHAHAHAA

Fede Albanello it really wasn’t that funny

@@noah321 "Fade Albanello, I didn't find this as funny as you did. Just wanted to let you know. Cheers." FTFY

@@AcornFox thanks for reporting that Noah didn't found that too funny

Ban this comment... For not being found that funny..!

The FIA seems to think the way to revolutionize the sport and shake up the grid is to just redo the whole chassis every few years rather than letting teams just invent new things to keep things fresh. I guess it's because the FIA's interest is close racing but the constructors' interest is in constructor points. Those two things work against each other when it comes to establishing rules that allow inventive solutions but promotes wheel-to-wheel action.

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner for best quote ever

It seems that the opposition teams can't handle superior development. Teams complain FIA backs the majority everytime.

FIA is probably retired ATF staff

When Ferrari protested

I will agree, there always seemed to be a touch of politics that was bullshit, but there were a few that one can safely argue was for safety purposes.

PYLrulz1984 and those safety flaws were only there to get around other bullshit laws

Something to consider is that whatever they're using should consistently give similar grip/downforce etc. E.g. skirts could get chipped away on bumpers/off track and then suddenly the car had massively less downforce than the drivers expected. Flying them off at the next fast turn

Storiaron oh you mean like wings and tires? Ya know, the things that get broken off and punctured mid corner all the time??? Yeah, the cars shouldn’t have those either

Downforce wasn't really safe. Once the car got too far off the ground the ground effect turned into lift and would somersault the car.

Since 2014, if Mercedes invents something then it's approved by FIA. If their competitors invent something FIA bans it immediately.

@@cinegraphics they banned das dude.

imagine haas developing something, it will be banned in seconds, toto and horner will protest in heartbeat :D

@@yaxo11 50 years of History says, it's only ferrari that fails to keep up and innovate, thus bans... like the another commenter said, The basic rule of thumb for technical innovation: - Team comes up with genius solution - Everyone tries to copy it - Ferrari fail to copy it successfully - Ferrari lobby the FIA to ban it - The FIA ban it Ferrari: We can drive without hands but a wing damper is unacceptable. similar to the DAS system by Mercedes.

Brabham: Look at this fancar! Chapman: Wait, that's illegal

@@TheEvapiiShow the regulations stated that a fan whos primary use was to provide aerodynamic effect was illegal. When designing it Murray went for the loophole that its primary use was for cooling. Although difficult to disprove this was obviously bullshit so they agreed to remove it before court proceedings etc

M G This just sounds like the FIA is just following Ferrari’s rules

Invent

M G i like how when ferrari is literally cheating like last year nothing happenes sad thing is they are still loosing

@@sierraacharlie they wanted ban 2004 ferrari model so bad tho

FIA: Well you know... Ferrari said they’ll leave if we don’t ban it... and what merch would we sell then?... BANNED

The Brabham Fan Car was neer banned. In fact, Gordon Murray has a letter from the FIA saying it was legal. They withdrew it because the other owners told Bernie they would quit F1 if he didn't end the program.

@@stevelavergne2852 Murray said that Bernie did it for politics

@@andrewdanieldjapri2075 Yes, to appease the other teams.

Using water with lead to increase your weight is not "out-smarting the competition", it's cheating.

@@MrAlex310393 yes but things like active suspension and double diffuser should not have been banned

Blame aero developement which wasn't banned enough, hence mskes it harder for csrs to follow due to less down force of following cars.

It's more like 3 steps Safety for drivers Help Ferrari whenever possible Profit

I’m sorry but ferrari complained about your comment so FIA is banning it

Step 1:Kill screaming, bloodthirsty V12's and V10's and replace them with Hoover sounding 6 pots.No extra steps needed.

So the Red Bull X series from Gran Turismo?

@@josephpbrown think beyond the rules but yes that's a great start more rbx fan car and I'm sure they could keep going

it would have to be driven by a robot, too many G's haha

A lot of these innovations wouldn't work well together. They're in response to a very specific set of rules for each season.

Go watch LMP¹

Check can am racing, especially in the 70s

Makes me sad inside. So much new stuff waiting, but fia just swinging away on the ban hammer..

A lot of the older ones were banned for safety concerns, but I do agree with you.

most were banned after senna's death because the cars simply were too quick for the safety of that time. remember they were racing 750+hp, super light cars that didn't even have a speedometer, let alone any form of traction control etc. drivers also sat with their feet over the front axis, meaning that if they crashed into a wall they'd often break their ankles.

How would a speedometer make a car in anyway safer. When your racing you don’t care what the speedo says.

@@dutchclasher5471 I understand that safety is an issue. But climbing mountains without oxygen or ropes is not safe but still a thing. And it does sound a bit silly - To limit speed potential in a sport were going as fast as possible is the objective.

Hugh Jass Hate Ferrari much?! Ferrari only complained about the 1 innovation (#6), bud(?). Other teams did their fair share of whining over other ideas too. Changing weight with water was flat-out cheating, while Alonso's driving ability was pure genius!? Mostly, it was just easier to whine about some innovations and have them banned than to have to spend resources catching up(?) - not enough races to test and implement, maybe? We can only speculate.

@@jeokagem8002 Sooo if someone innovates and creates something nice. For their time, effort, money and genius the FIA just ban it so other teams don't spend time, effort and money? Makes sense...

@@dedecus7111 Dude, that's not what I said at all! (I don't know why I'm even responding to your comment because it's just plain dumb!?). I suggest that you should try to UNDERSTAND the comment/s better before you say something(?). I didn't mention ANYTHING about not innovating; of course, innovation is important - EXCEPT when it comes to flat-out cheating (like changing the weight of the car with water). My point was why is Hugh Jass singling out Ferrari when they are only guilty of complaining about 1 of the 10 items? He sounds like a Ferrari-hater. They are ALL guilty of complaining when they think another team has an unfair advantage, or if they think they can't catch up in time for that season. Finally, try to remember this in the future: "It is better to be quiet and be THOUGHT a fool than to speak out and dispell all doubt"

Ferrari is one the oldest team so yeah they will alot...

@@jeokagem8002 when Ferrari going start winning again?

Yes look at those shitty marvels. Impressive are they.

If it makes the car faster without compromising safety then it should be allowed.

Porkchop Sandwiches especially the dampers. It minimises take off as cars can’t fly up into the sky when hitting kerbs and definitely minimises loss of control. There has been multiple cases of cars hitting kerbs at high speed making micro bounces and sending them to their other side. If a car just behind it is going 180 mph. Lets say it wouldn’t be the most fanciest thing...

ye, and 9 out of 10 of these things were clever engineering solutions and indeed LEGAL! as per the rules at the time. yet the video title calls them CHEEKY.... which is frankly retarded title for this video. It should be celebrating the engineers and their cleverness.

i think its a cost thing, where when 1 team develops a new system all the other teams have to try and keep up with whoever is raising the bar

The late 90s and early 2000s was a funny time for fashion it was cool but now just google any celebrity from that time period and you'll cringe 😂

@@adrianalprin5752 I know extremely baggy jeans used to be a thing especially in America 😂

Today's lesson: British engineers are top madmen

that goggle looks like romain grojean 's goggles

He sweats alot

or rather "it's not illegal but we ban it anyway because ferrari doesn't like it".

I think the ground effects skirts and the fan car were dangerous too. Skirts were too unpredictable in bumpy situations and the fan threw small debris to the cars behind. Other than that, stuff like double diffusers and mass dampers are genius.

@@kutayarcan911 The debris thing was made up by the other teams so that the FIA would ban it. It was not really an issue.

@@kutayarcan911 the main issue there was the loss in downforce in case of damage, which to be fair was a safety risk. That too I can understand but the third pedal, the mass damper and double diffuser were banned because it was easier for the other teams

The Lotus Type 88 was the safest car on the grid, they banned it because other teams whinned about it, nothing else.

What safe issues did the F-duct had? And if you mean because the drivers had to use their hands that was the teams fault being stupid by using their hands. There´s a reason Mclaren´s system used the side of the leg and not their hands...

Honestly I can't believe it didn't make the list.

yeah was it!!

Lucas Valeriano The active suspension lured Ayton to Williams!

unfortunately back in those days the active suspension computers wherent smart/fast enough to handle the data... so there where crashes involving the active suspension THINKING it was on a different part of the track than it actually was...

Oscar Sibanda exactly in the year it was banned😂

Blaze Z Or just hide it from Ferrari. They seemed to be the reason a lot of these were banned. Once they start getting beaten it was ban time.

@@toka100 Because they owned Ferrari's idiotic Authority

Be polite, Be efficient, Have a plan to get your car banned by the FIA

The illusion of choices

That is why F1 sucks now.

That's why Ferrari is nowhere near since 2012?

That's the Ferrari International Aid for you. Ferrari. 'We can't get this to work, so we want it banned.' FIA: 'Got ya fam.'

Dude, Ferrari wasn't the only team that complained about those innovations. I think is better not to make any conspiracy theories

​@@dantheman9228 laughable logic

Sam Harper and why is it laughable ,this is what happened if you cant handle that then too bad.

So group b but for f1 yes

IDK why people would still think of F1 as the pinnacle of motorsports anymore it was back in the day. But now its just the racing league with the most money.

SIKE! That's the WRONG INNOVATION!!! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

Same problem NASCAR has. F1 and NASCAR are so boring and stupid now.

Alan Scharfstein .... n

Yes team can extract as much performance, from set off writen formula of rules. Not just outrageous innovation war which lead to whichever got the most money win and no small teams interested in competing. Loose regulation will just create wacky racing.

@@ardijanuar2036 These are not outrageous and more often than not, poor teams that are desperate get the most out of them. Tyrrell and Brawn for example.

@Yt_User#911 umm do you know how F1 works everyone but the big three are poor by comparison. So in my opinion these sneaky advantages leveled the playing field between rich and poor teams

@@ardijanuar2036 most of the times they banned innovations when the small teams invented it, and a big team claim it should not be legal

The double diffuser and the mass damper were absolutely GENIUS innovations by small teams, and look at the results. Either the FIA or bigger teams' protests made it illegal.

If unlimited ground effects, combined with 4 wheel drive and fans at the back, f-ducts and all kinds of aerodevices the cars would be too fast for a human to handle. Not sure how that would be to watch

Ken Lykkeslett it would be interesting to watch 😂

Elon Musk would probably enter the race in his Falcon Heavy if that were the case...

@@kenlykkeslett7501 more interesting than today. think of the engineering marvels that would used to create the insane tracks required. im surprised there has not been a no restriction series yet.

You'd have something like the Red Bull X from Gran Turismo

He's spitting straight facts

and this is why i hate ferrari through the jean todt era (along with Schumi's unsportsmanship). very sore losers.

Well yes. In fact he happily rose to the technical challenge in 2007. Such a hypocrite.

That makes no sense. Brawn won the whole season because of one innovation and people were complaining that it was boring. Now you are seeing the same with Mercedes, Red Bull before and Ferrari before it. This people is the exact reason why fans should never be making the rules. It's just knee jerk reactions.

Ddpoprupf

@@tissot233 Exactly what I thought, well said.

Love it. Just imagine what we could have, had a few these developments and innovations been kept in the sport and given time to develop If we had today's F1 leadership in 1968 they probably would have banned downforce-generating wings altogether when Lotus first used downforce to gain an advantage

@@skyscall It's sad about the majority of the developments being banned, although I am happy to not have 6 or 8 wheeler F1 cars, that'd be way too bizarre.

@@MyFamilyFoodGarden lol I was thinking the same, but in the end I'd be like "ahhh hell, let's allow it to see what they come up with next". I mean they can always split the racing category in 2, normal and 20 wheelers lol

If the price is prohibitive to the rest of the teams, it creates a monopoly, not good for the sport. I know it's "unfair", but otherwise the sport would be boring with the same team winning everything always.

@@huracan200173 so... basically the entire hybrid era?

But that's entirely reasonable. Seriously. What kind of sport do you want? One where only the rich teams can win? How boring is that?

This video is missing the last 6 years, where it goes like this: - "Mercedes invented it and FIA approved it" - "Some other team invented it, Mercedes complained and FIA banned it"

@@huracan200173 Mercedes.

I think you miss-spelled "Ferrari"

@@viptech_c5286 when did he mention Ferrari

@@christythambithurai8814 Not at all saying he did or implying he did. Are you not familiar with the "I think you misspelled _" Joke format? If I have to explain it, Ferrari doesn't like when other teams make innovative and unique changes to their car that make their car really good and then they go crying to FIA to ban it. I can name multiple times where this was exactly the case, if you'd like.

More like Random Team: Hey, so we’ve worked hard on this new inno- Ferrari: FIA!! I CANT WIN AND CANT BUILD THE SAME THING!! CAN YOU BAN IT? FIA: k

Lotus had it two, albeit more complex and less effective.

Senna dislike this because Computer playing not a Racer driving..

lotus developed it

Later Fric was the new solution, when active suspensions got banned, wasn't it?

@@soldornot yep

i think that's why they called it that

That's why it was called that...

Didn't knoe that thx :D

Ironic

The media and people in the paddock didn't know what to call it so they just said "have you seen the duct on the f of vodafone on the front of the McLaren?" "F-duct" was born.

Unless you pay of course ;)

I like 🤣 that Black Panther brought your here. I wish 1k+ likes upon you brother. May you be truly blessed

@@wilton999 It's a meme that was created because of Black Panther.

This could be said of any motorsport series, really. Any innovation that might upset the inverted pyramid of rich teams staying on top while spending as little as possible usually dies on the vine before it can be fully developed.

Or by fia not banning something due to the fact that they love the team

Ferrari

Hammond The Destroyer. Yes. Ferrari

Yup, just like what happened to chapparal 2j

I'm not sure the main objective of Newey is to have elegant cars 😅

@@ialexleb7245 he staunchly followed the engineers number one rule...if it loks right, it probably is...if it looks fast...ditto...the winglets didnt look fast to him...or me...he was right though

@@Errol.C-nz you can see in one clip it broke in the pit lane

But Adrian copied Jeremy Clarkson's homework at school

@GamerFrancis TV I agree the halo is safe (albeit ugly), I just don't think the side wings were unsafe. heck, they banned bmw sauber's twin towers for the same 'obstructed visibility' reason, even though drivers didn't mind them any more than they mind the halo. just feels hypocritical of them, like visibility is the excuse they pull out of their hat when they don't like a creative solution.

@@Benlucky13 And there was a clip of one of the wings being ripped off in the pit lane. Not exactly very safe.

So there was reason to ban it

The end

For now....

So Schumacher Bad?

@@Jimmy-lm2eg The legality of the car is the responsiblity of the TEAM. NOT the DRIVER.

@@anthonyschmidt-ellis6353 Ok then Schumacher In Ferrari good lol.

@@Jimmy-lm2eg You have to remember that the only car with TC and Launch Control was the Schumacher's one.

Propaganda video at their best

Bro, I was just watching that clip when I read your comment XD

But ground effect do cause cars to take off, ask Mark Webber about it he is an expert of making cars fly

@@sikness1924 No, lack of ground effect makes cars take off.

Brum Racing THE PURPOSE OF GROUND EFFECT SKIRTS IS TO KEEP THE VEHICLE-SAY IT WITH ME- ON THE GROUND.