@BlueLine Racing you better watch the video again I didn't see one under 3,000 and my bad boy was only 3400.

I love my Bad boy. 7 years old and rock solid. Serviced once a year in the spring. On my third battery and new blades every year. But I do have a six acre yard.

Had mine 8 years. Great mower 3400. But it has been 8 years lol. I think my 54 inch is 4200 now lol. Still it's a great mower for the price.

Definitely my dad has always hated zero turns but I talked him into trying a Ferris is700 and buying one of those suspension seats we also added 2 bolt on handle post with a step on the front and he loves it easy on easy off and a comfortable ride

The time cutter 50 is 5gs here where I am

@@dharrison6832 it’s 4,000 here in Memphis

I wish I had a seat with suspension The husky has no suspension and will kill your back Sometimes I wish I put on my kidney belt that I wear dirt bike riding lol

I have the toro time cutter I feel like it has been amazing in about the 6 years I have had

I hate to admit it, I have one as well. But this cheap Chinese(didn’t know) crap is tuff. At least I was told it was Chinese. Sorry to any American I didn’t mean to buy this commie crap

Is it Commercial

@@BigGeorgiaBoi no

@@Dreadz52 Does it have a built in striping bar or is one available for an attachment?

I can't agree with you more!!! I just bought my zt1 with the 54 fab deck and damn right it is a beast

I have the same and LOVE IT!!

What model toro do you have. I was debating on getting a 75741 model 42" time cutter using it for a lawn service business

I would never buy another Husqvarna again. I bought a Z248F last year and had just under 50 hours on it as of July this year. While mowing the lawn, I heard a weird noise and then what sounded like a metal on metal grinding. That was when I found out Husqvarna knowingly sent out mowing decks with bad welds on them. The entire right side of my mowing deck cracked in half and sent the blade guard through the blades. It is now almost September, the Husqvarna dealer has had my mower since July 5th and do not know when they will be able to complete the warranty work, because Husqvarna has prioritized new mower sales over warranty fixes and will not send a new mowing deck. A mower is only as good as the company that stands behind them and Husqvarna does not stand behind their mowers.

I just brought expensive

Six acres id buy a 9ft mowing machine and a balet

My Kawasaki on my 2012 Toro Timecutter SUX! - The governor has always had to be adjusted ever so often and now it's leaking oil bad. Leaks gas into the oil periodically. I'm looking for a new zero now but going with a Kohler 7000 for a tad less. Guess I will see? Just scared to try another expensive Kawa-sucki

Bought my Bad Boy MZ Magnum 54” with the 25hp Kohler last year and absolutely love it. I was mowing 1.5 acres in 3 hours with a Cub Cadet LT1045 (that I was always wrenching on, thanks MTD). With the Bad Boy, it takes me less than half that time. Bad Boy has a veterans discount, something around 20%. My local Tractor Supply honored the program price without any issues.

@@todd718 I ask if they gave any discount for vet or 1st responders and they said no. Where do you stay at are maybe need to call another dealer

Bad boy Maverick 60 inch for 5 years..... Zero issues except a deck pulley spring

I would never buy another Husqvarna again. I bought a Z248F last year and had just under 50 hours on it as of July this year. While mowing the lawn, I heard a weird noise and then what sounded like a metal on metal grinding. That was when I found out Husqvarna knowingly sent out mowing decks with bad welds on them. The entire right side of my mowing deck cracked in half and sent the blade guard through the blades. It is now almost September, the Husqvarna dealer has had my mower since July 5th and do not know when they will be able to complete the warranty work, because Husqvarna has prioritized new mower sales over warranty fixes and will not send a new mowing deck. A mower is only as good as the company that stands behind them and Husqvarna does not stand behind their mowers.

My 15 year old Walker will out mow it

Change that transmission oil. They say it'l s a sealed transmission but it's not. Change it every three years. it's not hard. There's instructions on youtube. I learned the hard way. I've had a RZ 2454 since 2008. 24 hp kohler has been great. The body is a little flimsy but that's not bad because it makes it lighter if you get stuck or want to work on it. Heavier duty ones are, heavier of course. If it's not too heavy you can man handle them better such as flipping the deck or getting stuck in a ditch. I replace both transaxles because I didn't change the trans nission fluid or 15-150 weight oil. Change that transmisson oil.

Just ordered that one, the 'R' series, haven't gotten it yet. How do you like yours so far?

Cant wait to cut the lawn now 😎great machine, so maneuverable, comfortable & quick!

Glad you got yours now. With stagflation the way it's going, the only mower under $3k next year will be: "The 21" Push Mower w/o drive by MTD!"

I’m looking at one now for $3,148 at Home Depot

Yeah B&S are good engines I never had a problem with them that I could not solve at a cheaper price

@dustyrusty....I have a 1999 Dixon 4423. Love it....and that Martian technology under the seat is amazing! lol

Really don’t like the cut quality and the leds already went out . Now having transmission issues and bearing issues on the deck .Also tends to hold a lot of grass on the Deck and under it .Not to mention the standard two ply tires . Nothing but problems .

@@JuanHernandez-tg7kv you probably got a lemon. Mine has been great no problems. Cuts better than my old John deere tractor.

@@kylestivers4606 the problem is that people never own cub cadet like the one in the video they start making up story if you never own a Cub cadet your opinion don’t count I have one for 2 years and never had a problem

@@MrAlphacallsign it doesn't matter what brand there's always someone that says it's junk. My cub cadet is 3 years old and not a single issue.

Yeah, I had an older ZTR for about 15 years and traded in for a new ZT1 this year. So far, no problems and I'm happy with it. The thing is, I was looking at the Ariens, but with the supply chain issues, my dealer wasn't able to get one and he was barely able to get me the Cub Cadet. Anyway, so far, so good. No issues yet and I'm happy with the cut quality.

With 2.4 acres you may want to look at a bit heavier machine to hold up long term. Larger mowing deck at least over what they are reviewing here.

i am currently dealing with this issue as well. i ordered a JD Z345R from a dealer without any hassle, but am not getting it for 3+ weeks. supply shortages are real i guess.

Im a snpper ferris dealer and the shortage is real I ordered 150 mowers in September and only have gotten 8 of them so far.

Never buy a box store zero turn especially ones made by MTD

I just purchased the Z254F, so I'm happy to read your comment. You have definitely put your mower conditions anyone should expect from it.

I've had a Husqvarna Zero Turn mower 7 years on a 5 acre farm. Couldn't be happier overall. Replaced belts, blades, solenoids putting it thru it's paces. Good mulcher blades means no grass pickup - chops it to rice! Use sharpened crappy blades for brush chopping, gopher/mole hill leveling/dirt packing and blackberries. Cup or brew holder too!

Great review Sounds like the way we'd run it😅

I picked up a z246 zero last fall for next to nothing. It is a long story but a farm supply had it and a customer brought it back after 4.5 hours. They sent it to a repair shop that was local and a authorized repair center. But it was the fall so they did not ask for it back until the new mowing year. The flywheel key had sheared off and it had to be pulled and replaced so they did that but they left it setting outside all winter. Yeah someones brand new mower. So the next spring dude went to pick it up and the repair shop was like here you go. The dude said no mine was new. They explained it was his but the plastic and labels was faded as well as the seat starting to already crack. So the owner blows up and tells the farm center i brought it back to you because it broke after so little use I want a new one. So they gave him a brand new one. This is a 2020 model and it is spring 2021. But Farm center guy said it just set in the back room for 2 years and the manager got tired of looking at it. He put a sign on it.. AS IS I think it needs a battery and belt. So it was marked at a fraction of a new mower. So I asked if I could put a battery in it and if it kinda runs and the hydros worked I would buy it, if not could I return the battery? He said sure, so it had no key either and I bought one of those and a battery and put in it and it fired right up. it moved under its own power and the blades tried to come on but you could tell something was off. So I said sold and I purchased a 3 year old mower with less than 5 hours for $200 plus tax and battery and key. I get it home and seen the blade tensioner spring is gone and I had one that fit off another mower so I put it on and they spun up but was clanking and the blade was scraping the ground. Apparently he hit something so hard it bent a blade and broke a spindle and sheared the flywheel key. So 2 days ago I put new blades and spindle on it and it mows like a brand new mower. I have just over $300 in it after tax and parts. The dude never even cut the factory shipping ire to secure the deck it was wired up. I have only used it once but OMG it cuts smooth. I never had a mower make such a nice cut. I put G3 blades on it.

On this list which one would you pick from the number 1. 2. & 3 spots on this list for some one like me... less than 2 acres of very flat yard who cuts my yard about once a week here in Southern Ohio. ?? Thanks for your advice.

@@robertsalyers1351 All depends on the dealers in your area. In my area, Cub Cadets, sold at Farm & Fleet stores, and are sent off to be serviced, so long waits. The other brand that had the stamped deck, I would avoid (don't cut even in tight unlevel turns.). Ariens, there's a dealer in my area,, that that's all they sell, great family biz, bend over backwards for you, that's the one of these I would buy if I hadn't bought a Toro 54' for $4,200 2 weeks ago, and love it. Bought a Toro push mower drastically reduced at a big box store 5 yrs ago, best push mower I've ever owned. So expect that quality in the riding mower. Just be careful to get a name brand engine, no name engines are chinese knock offs of the Honda engine, so reliability is questionable.

@@williamjones7851 ok, lil buddy 😆😆😆

@@williamjones7851 Yea, cuz we all know that the other side are so rich they can afford the crippling inflation the democrats have made possible.

@@williamjones7851 you haven’t noticed much inflation? Do you live under a rock?

Many things are scarce due to Brandon.

That’s whatsup! I love John Deere tho haha. But I also haven’t tried craftsman yet

Jd suck your paying for the name and color

John deere has turned into a joke all the way around just like cat

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Lol yes many ladies start with a real bad boy but settle for a less bad boy.

My Toro is done and was about to get the Bad Boy Rambler with a 22 Kohler. I drug around and waited a day too late. They sold out of the Rambler with the 22hp,(due to manufacture supply problem) then started subbing it with a 19hp Briggs for the same freakin price! No thx!

​@@billm3210 your mom goes that way too

A ferris is more than a little bit different than apples to oranges. They are top notch and over 12 grand .

I don’t understand the zero turn craze for homeowners. For a commercial business, absolutely. I can buy a decent rider with a 54 inch fab deck for less than 3k. For another 675 bucks, I can get tire chains, a snowblower, and a few wheel weights. Multipurpose, for way less than the price of a zero turn with the same size fabricated deck. Either way, zero turn or rider, I have to run the string trimmer, so I just can’t fathom paying that much more for a zero turn. I have 9 acres to mow, and I would rather take an extra half an hour to trim and maybe mow a bit slower than pay thousands more for a zero turn. I saw Dewalt zero turns at Home Depot with 54 inch decks for $6,989. Insane.

@@springfield03sniper It's just the latest craze...I agree with you,If you're just a homeowner who mows less than 2 acres..No need for a zero turn.

@@dino9395 I might disagree with you. My next door neighbor has a 15 year old Toro lawn tractor that does not replacing, but she keeps thinking it's on its last legs ( It isn't, I do the maintenance on it and it's just fine) She cuts two lawns, hers and a rental property they own. I dissuaded her father from buying a zero turn years ago when he replaced an ancient Snapper because of the steepness of the back of their property on the advice of the local Toro dealer who said there could be more of a roll over issue with the zero turns. I watched her father, then almost 90, roll the Snapper and though he wasn't hurt, became a bit gun shy, shall I say, towards using it. They bought the lawn tractor. Now, talking to a few commercial grass cutters who use a variety of them who say they feel far more comfortable on a zero turn than a lawn tractor on steeper terrain. I watched one guy using a big commercial John Deere working the back property next to the neighbor and he wasn't having a bit of trouble on the steepness part, just ran a bit slower and carefully in his turns. I don't want to give bad advice to my neighbors but this is going to be a borderline situation between the amount of grass that has to be cut, a relatively small amount of steepness to be concerned with and with the way she cuts, a lot of turning and a lot of reversing. It takes her half a day to cut both properties even with her husband doing the trim mowing and edging. They are both in their 70s and I keep hoping that they'll run the old mower until it dies and start using a lawn service. Got any advice I could pass on to them?

@@mikegrant8490 It's all just personal choice when it really comes down to it..As you know lawn tractors will tip over if the hill is steep enough,But most of the zero turns have a tendency to slide down hills..For my own personal use I like just the standard riding mower,although with a large property the zero turns will definitely be much faster.

@@dino9395 I agree with you. It's not my concern overall. I did mention much of what you just said to her the day before yesterday and it seems I may have convinced her to just continue with what they already have. It's more than adequate and she even said in a few years, they'll likely just start using a lawn service. Thanks for your feedback!

Hey Doug, do you notice your husky spinning out in wet grass / or on small hills? When I was researching I saw this as the only complaint so I bought one but then I immediately noticed this issue.

@@barryj3370 Barry, I've used it mainly on dry grass. I do have a small hill that it climbs ok. Not nearly as good as my garden tractor, but it makes it up the incline ok.

Hi Doug, I've been saving money for a zero turn, then the prices went up 80%! Where did you find your scratch and dent mower?

@@martinphilips6091 Hey Martin. I was looking for a used zero turn on Craigslist. When I saw a dealer ad for several Husqvarna tractors, and zero turns. AE Outdoor Power is the company. Z248F- 48" deck 21.5 HP Kawasaki engine- $2499

@@dougphelps6917 thank you very much, Doug! I appreciate the information!

We tend to get nothing but cheap crap shoveled in our faces in the states.

@@GeneralChangOfDanang That's music to my ears..."cheap". We don't get a choice of brand names, like you get over there. But we do get the same crap shoved in our faces, it's just that it's twice the price.

COMES OUT TOMORROW! :)

This is an entry/mid tier residential transmission on all the mowers. The the most commonly used residential transmission.

Yes we do, they work awesome. We have the Bad Boy revolt and the altoz tsx562. Stand-on mowers are my personal preference.

Ok thank you very much they seem like a very safe mower you can see what your mowin and you can get off it quick if you have to thank you again Frank Corbin

Blade speed isn't provided by most manufacturers which is why it's not included, hopefully one day all manufacturers will disclose that information publicly.

I mow my lawn with a commercial 60" eXmark mower. I used to work part time for a commercial lawn grooming company. After you run high quality rotary mowers you hate the cheap junk from the box stores. I couldn't afford a new $14,900-$17,000 machine but I could afford a used one. Also Kawasaki is much better engine than Kohler. eXmark has run their blade speed at the maximum legal limit for years I think. Scag also has a few good mowers. A good Blade tip speed is 18,000-18,500 in my opinion. I can mow a good bed of grass at ground speeds between 8-11 mph no problem. On a high speed blade the first 3/4" of the blade does most all the cutting so running carbide tipped blades helps keep them sharp longer. A company like eXmark spends millions designing the commercial cutting platform. They are meant to mow faster than the cheap ones. What I see wrong most often is a cheap mower being labeled as commercial and some poor landscaper buys it because it's cheaper. It's cheaper for a reason. Than they try to mow like a premium grade commercial mower and it does a horrible job. I learned years ago you often get what you pay for. That's why a good commercial mower comes with a nice comfortable seat that alone cost almost as much as a cheap ride on lawn tractor from a box store.

@@ifyoutip I like your term "grooming " High lift blades, and properly adjusted belts will literally suck the grass straight up allowing your blades to cleanly shear the tips off. " Mow fo"

@majwhiplash....Stolen elections have dire consequences.

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interested in this mower... are they sold through independent dealers only? Any idea where to buy around Louisville KY?

@@scottdman I live in Australia. They have independent dealers here.

I bought mine at a place called big m in mccreary county KY a couple hours south of you

I have had the same mower for 2 years and it’s absolutely fantastic had no problems at all

Love standers had 3 2 36 1 32 " it's not included because it's life of green$$$ real parts real engines repowered my 08" first time 1324" hr second motor has 3700 hrs whaaat" yup" semi commercial / residential use just now getting pump issues" rusted deck rewelded some areas with 1/8 in plate, other than that for a 14 yr old mower with almost 5.000hrs, also had 36 old school great dane surfer, meh" but spindles were much ez to rebuild , stander spindles are longer lasting & factor belts, looking at the encore & Hustler stand ons now" for 5 k & 6k, compared to 32 stander cost & deck lift is a plus with them , box store mowers have cheap plastic hub motors" a no " for me lots of complaints with them & Kohler/ briggs motors, not just my IMO" but mechanic/ owners, even low end toros" plus thin decks

Btw use the stander for all the mowing not just a back up back yard gate mower lost the 21" with the 32" it does it all but $$$$

It's expensive but you won't regret it"

For the 6 k encore has alot to offer 1 k more than the Hustler, well built good warranty thick deck real engine dial deck height suspension on the standing platform unlike a 32" basic stander w/ no deck adj castor/ spindle washers

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@@petersack5074 let me rephrase, husqvarna will spin out even on flat ground that’s mildly damp. I’ve owned quite a few zero turns and from my opinion - it’s just not worth it even if it’s on the more affordable side.

As far as I know the prices have not gone up. However If you are financing the mower the msrp of the mower might go up a bit.

Asked myself the same question in the last few days. Not comparing prices to what’s in the video but I could have sworn Home Depot’s price on the cub cadet jumped like $100-$200 from one day to the other so I think there was a change

I’m finding also that some places have 2 prices, cash price and a finance/credit card price which is about 10% more.

If inflation and gas up. Most likely the prices will go up! Let’s Go Brandon!

I love the seat on mine. The rubber shock is awesome on my Back. (7 Buldged disk, 1 Herrniated disk). And I have no issues when done with my 2 acre.

I agree, my MZ52 has a very uncomfortable seat. Too upright and no suspension at all. Not really happy with the way it mows to be honest. It tears up the ground every time you try to turn, no matter how careful you try to be. And it will not cut long grass without leaving 2 thin rows of grass between the blades, where they don't overlap? Mowers here in Australia are ridiculously expensive, I paid $7,500 second hand, for mine. $13,500 new. So I'll be sticking with mine until the damn thing falls apart. LOL.

Upgrade the seat

Dont buy 3 mowers in your life. Buy one its walker. Tougher than nails and great customer service

Normally the deck is thin and will rust out.

We've got a Toro TimeCutter 5000, with a 50 inch cutting deck. It features the Kawasaki 23 hp engine. It has a 3 gallon fuel capacity and a top ground speed of 7 mph. We bought the mower new in 2020. We've been happy with it. Our son advised us to get a zero turn and it was good advice. The only complaint I have is that you have to replace the blades often. The sand here in Florida eats them up quickly!