Tribal and Religious Identity in Afghanistan - Thomas Barfield

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The Muslims in a Global Context series offers the opportunity to examine the factors and trends that are having major impacts on these diverse regions and their relationships with other world regions and countries.

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@jojonesjojo8919
@jojonesjojo8919 2 роки тому
It's good to see that Mark Hamil had a career beyond playing Luke Skywalker.
@galiazari5670
@galiazari5670 2 роки тому
Hahaha 🤣
@hilohahoma1547
@hilohahoma1547 2 роки тому
Ikr !!! Wow
@JayReaction530
@JayReaction530 2 роки тому
Well tatoine where he grew up was similar
@pfcsantiago8852
@pfcsantiago8852 2 роки тому
Absolute ringer !
@penzancegunner857
@penzancegunner857 2 роки тому
He needs to go there and destroy the dark side!
@vuvuvu6291
@vuvuvu6291 2 роки тому
"The Uzbeks lost because they fight after breakfast but the Soviet attacked at dawn." That's by far the nicest way to call out someone is lazy 😂
@jamalahmadzai3096
@jamalahmadzai3096 2 роки тому
😂😂😂😂😂
@Rarba786
@Rarba786 2 роки тому
It's interesting watching this just after the US left Afghanistan last week.
@Maynard0504
@Maynard0504 2 роки тому
it also explains why everyone just surrendered to the taliban. there is no united resistance.
@RiamCute
@RiamCute 2 роки тому
Me too
@TheOfficialGLXY
@TheOfficialGLXY 2 роки тому
I wish more folks would watch this. The news is so lacking
@dailydoseofmma1512
@dailydoseofmma1512 2 роки тому
@@TheOfficialGLXY like do you expect anything else from the news ??
@jamesj9537
@jamesj9537 2 роки тому
@@RiamCute News is mostly propaganda- left or right.
@johnvaughan7096
@johnvaughan7096 2 роки тому
Top intellectual; doesn't oversimplify and when he does a little bit, he tells you to be careful.
@kazkaskazkas8689
@kazkaskazkas8689 2 роки тому
no no no, I'd rather listen to what Biden or Trump have to say about it
@KRYPTOS_K5
@KRYPTOS_K5 2 роки тому
I agree. He is excelente. Brazil Russia
@area609joe2
@area609joe2 2 роки тому
@@kazkaskazkas8689 I don't like Biden, he at least to advisors. Trump admin didn't even listen to his allies. Only pundit who has been honest. Malcom Nance who under stood culture, ethnic and tribal differences he was at least honest. Context is important. I don't don't affiliate party.
@str.77
@str.77 2 роки тому
@@area609joe2 Trumo might have been bad (including on Afghanistan) but Biden is so much worse. He's the one after all who handed the country back to the Taliban.
@area609joe2
@area609joe2 2 роки тому
@@str.77 Honestly I can break it down. It might take me a few hours thou. If your blaming Biden as President your wrong. If you think he has responsibility as VP then maybe you understand. Not understanding the culture and history in context, Not understanding how NATO countries run their government. If Boris Johnson is prime minister and we ignore him and go to labor make verbal agreement to fight terrorism together. What the admin saw as an exit plan Afghans saw as the United States finally recognized the Taliban as political party and the Afghan government failure. Our knew that treating Taliban as a shadow government. America first had consequences. We either didn't listen or ignored the facts. I don't expect you to m ow any of this. Most Americans don't most of my fellow marines don't. The Taliban offered to surrender disarm and bin laden over to a 3rd party country. Bin laden was a guest in that country and were not allies of the Taliban. Taliban card a outside of Afghanistan, BJJ. Laden cared about United in Saudi Arabia. This isn't a debate. I can shoot down every pundits argument you been watching on tv. You been lied to. 2 years the Agfan papers were released. If blaming this admin for anything, were you been for 20 years. I can and fact everything I have said. It's not my opinion. Its SIGAR. That's the inspector of Afghanistan. If you civil cool, you blame Biden who I actually have reasons to no like you don't have facts. War could have been over in 2001 bush said no. Where did you serve Afghanistan? Im a marine, you must have served and understand Trump doing children being sexually abused? Is that Biden's fault to? U don't know about either. Military let boys be rapped? What do you know tell me please. www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5
@chipparker3950
@chipparker3950 2 роки тому
I spent 3 years in Afghanistan in the late 1970s and another year 1997-98 as a health care provider working with a Nongovernmental organization. I became quite functional in Farsi and had good friends that were Afghan that didn't speak English and were not westernized. I worked with them, traveled with them and spent time in their homes. There's little in this presentation that I would challenge. Time and effort can be rewarding in coming to a better understanding but felt you could never "understand "Afghanistan there are a few points I would like to make with the US withdrawal in mind and the errors that resulted in this 20 year disaster. 1. We taught the Afghans it was about money with CIA personel coming in with palets of US currency. 2. We thought we could win with technology. 3. Placing too much importance in written agreements, contracts, organization and procedures and not understanding the importance of establishing relationships and trust. 4. Success can not be achieved with short term tours of partners. Of course there is much more but I'll stop here.
@sivansuresh208
@sivansuresh208 2 роки тому
Being a South Asian, I could relate to that. White people are perceived as if they have lot of money. I felt the desperation Afghans showed at Kabul airport, was more of an once time life time opportunity to settle down in America and live better lives than fear of dying at the hands of Taliban. At a stand up comedy, an Indian comedian said that biggest social achievement Indians achieve is when they get out of India (and settle down in western countries). Indians settled in western countries, are treated like elites and get higher level of respect and ridicule as well (similiar to ridicules posh people get in UK). I grew up in India. My understanding through Indians about white people is that white people are only admired for their money and easier access to sex life they have. That's the only things Indians wish for from white people. An average Indian do not care about other western values like individualism and respect for other people's wishes to live their lives at their own terms.
@mecongberlin
@mecongberlin 2 роки тому
Chip, I love Pt. 3👏🏻👏🏻
@mistressofstones
@mistressofstones 2 роки тому
Sivan Suresh gosh people in Asia think we are doing it 24/7 lol
@ericurban2385
@ericurban2385 2 роки тому
PLEASE KEEP GOING !!!! .. 100%
@ericurban2385
@ericurban2385 2 роки тому
@@mecongberlin I'd love to hear a whole lot more about this.
@campbelltown3065
@campbelltown3065 2 роки тому
This was brilliant. I wish I had seen it years ago. I’m a former career Australian Army officer who did three tours of Afghanistan, the first in 2002. Later my son also joined the Army and he did two tours. I had always wanted to understand the Afghan tribal system, their approach to Islam, relationships between ethnic groups etc etc. I found this lecture the day the US withdrew from Afghanistan. How’s that for irony. I think God was playing a joke on me.
@friendsoftheamazonjungle
@friendsoftheamazonjungle 2 роки тому
Thank you for your service brother 💪🙏👍❤️✌️ greetings from the Northern Peruvian Amazon Jungle 🌴🌴🌴
@dh.k363
@dh.k363 2 роки тому
Goes to show e why you guys ultimately failed in Afghanistan
@justadude9110
@justadude9110 2 роки тому
Australian soldiers were known to commit some war crimes and i always wondered why would anyone in Australia sign up to go there. The country was never attacked or threatened by them but the sheer will of Australia soldiers to go there and fight that foreign war always surprised me as to why
@user-iw2wu8yp6v
@user-iw2wu8yp6v 2 роки тому
@Ming Chen probably
@yousufqu_
@yousufqu_ 2 роки тому
@@justadude9110 because you only joint the army to legally babykill and rape. Its full of psychos
@LookAroundMore
@LookAroundMore 2 роки тому
30:35 "Islam might have come out of the Arab world, but when it gets to the Persian world it gets refitted" LOoOL a truer historic reading has ever been uttered!
@lunarcalendar368
@lunarcalendar368 2 роки тому
Judaism and Christianity are no different either.
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 2 роки тому
*has never been uttered
@B.Precision
@B.Precision 2 роки тому
which is why the rest of the Islamic world didn't adopt much Persianate Culture . Persians accepted Islam begrudgingly and Allah subsequently punished them with Turko-Mongol yoke. (Turks kept Islam quite orthodox thankfully for the Ummah).
@NarasimhaDiyasena
@NarasimhaDiyasena 2 роки тому
Boqoreh Precision Persians didn’t accept it they were forced to submit to it during the islamic conquests into India. They fought to maintain Zoroastrianism and Persian culture and failed
@Druffmaul
@Druffmaul 2 роки тому
@@NarasimhaDiyasena What did you think he meant by "begrudgingly"? 🙄
@thejamnasium6447
@thejamnasium6447 2 роки тому
I'll never forget my buddy who went over there in the Army many years ago. he told me something I had never heard before. he said, "man, there are some parts of Afghanistan that are more beautiful than you can even imagine"
@lanatmolaje2901
@lanatmolaje2901 2 роки тому
But no one wants American army there because you guys can't do stuff right you guys are the one who made Taliban.
@mr.baqiov8711
@mr.baqiov8711 2 роки тому
OMG !! I’m from Afghanistan, Hazara tribe and this professor explained the best way possible, even far way better then our Afghan history professor back in school days and every thing he says is true, I literally amazed by him 😅he knows even very small details about AFG Great explanations !👏
@burtonlee22
@burtonlee22 2 роки тому
Excellent talk. Was he ever asked to brief the Pentagon before or during the US entry into Afghanistan? We seem to have very few of these high quality, deeply field-experienced anthropologists here in the USA
@user-lw6ud9hu6x
@user-lw6ud9hu6x 2 роки тому
👍👍👍
@CrniWuk
@CrniWuk 2 роки тому
That's not what the Pentagon interests because this is not what the Pentagon does. The Pentagon is pretty much responsible for the military branch and organising the military. The Pentagon itself does not decide when and how to use the military though and they are not involved in politics. The United States is not a military state. Shown by the fact that the Pentagon can not declare war or even start military operations without approval from the president and congress first. So what you should ask is, has any president ever got such a briefing? And I somehow can not imagine that ever really happend ...
@KRYPTOS_K5
@KRYPTOS_K5 2 роки тому
Yes. I agree. He is excelente. He has cognitive, biological, geography (social ecology) psychological and factual historic approaches. Not only economics and politics but altogether. Excellent folk. Brazil Russia
@KRYPTOS_K5
@KRYPTOS_K5 2 роки тому
@@CrniWuk Yes you are technically right but you understand the necessity to have those type of experts in your presidential team. Brazil Russia
@clementello
@clementello 2 роки тому
@@CrniWuk what? you mean the president can't watch youtube? /s
@Gadavillers-Panoir
@Gadavillers-Panoir 3 роки тому
Damn this lecture is PRECISELY what I was looking for.
@satoshinakamoto7253
@satoshinakamoto7253 2 роки тому
taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS
@salman-is9or
@salman-is9or 2 роки тому
ukposts.info/have/v-deo/r3d5rYGWfGt2sJs.html. The CIA HEAD TALKS TO THE TALIBAN FACE TO FACE💥 "9/11💥 watch THE REALITY and realise the Truth. &Share to others Thank you
@matthewbittenbender9191
@matthewbittenbender9191 2 роки тому
"it doesn't have to be fact to get some people to act." This is true in Afghanistan as it is in the US.
@hesterp7089
@hesterp7089 2 роки тому
Exactly that's the trick of how the west strikes pre-emptive. The West attacks it's self blame another then they have mainstream approval to " defend" when it's actually an offense
@thesecretkey9845
@thesecretkey9845 2 роки тому
The fucking hilarious thing is that the "conspiracy" he's talking about was probably correct. Also, he's being disingenuous here. He's making it sound like a "debunking" means that Afghanis have accepted that the premise of the "conspiracy theory" is false and act anyways, when in reality they probably just don't find the rebuttal convincing. Who's doing the "debunking" here? Some western journalist working for institutional mass media? Some US army official? If a creationist "debunks" evolution and "proves" that Genesis is a "fact", are you now just acting based on falsehoods if you accept evolution? Of course not. The "debunking" is not convincing and the "fact" isn't actually a fact, that's just a buzzword. The same thing goes for US mass media and universities.
@pats.6427
@pats.6427 2 роки тому
@@thesecretkey9845 You and your cohorts here have the reasoning skills of Afghanis.
@DogeickBateman
@DogeickBateman 2 роки тому
@@pats.6427 "oogabooga Gawd is real" Shut up.
@satoshinakamoto7253
@satoshinakamoto7253 2 роки тому
taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS
@radnj4610
@radnj4610 4 роки тому
I m from Afghnisan, I call my self persian Tajik. My grandmother is Pashtun. My mother in law is a pashtun and also my uncle wife's is a Hazara. My best friends are Hazarah and Pashtun. One of the point you did not mention is the family relation between these tribes. I see Tajiks a kind of bridge between all afghans, they have same believe with pashtuns and same language with Hazaras
@walid3207
@walid3207 3 роки тому
Afghanistan is of pashtuns bro.. tajikis and uzbeks can go to tajikistand and uzbekistan
@SherKhan-rd9uw
@SherKhan-rd9uw 3 роки тому
@@walid3207 true
@tiktokgamingyt6942
@tiktokgamingyt6942 3 роки тому
@@walid3207 not only pashtons I am to pashtons paktia Afghanistan for all muslims
@walid3207
@walid3207 3 роки тому
@@tiktokgamingyt6942 we are majority bro
@Tajikzer
@Tajikzer 3 роки тому
@@walid3207 you're only the majority in South Afghanistan, the most violence striken
@jimmygravitt1048
@jimmygravitt1048 2 роки тому
Man, I was TRIPPING out at how similar the stuff he was saying was to what I had read on the subject. Then, I realized he was the author of the book. Great book, great lecture.
@zohalghafari8331
@zohalghafari8331 2 роки тому
Living in Canada since childhood, its great to learn more about my beautiful country Afghanistan 🇦🇫 ❤. Hoping I can go and see the places that my parents, grandparents and ancestors lived and made a living. I am from the Tajik tribe. All humanity is equal and what's important is for everyone to live happily and in peace. Great informative video.
@shahbanunilofartajik
@shahbanunilofartajik 2 роки тому
Tajiks are not a tribe nor tribal. Tajiks are a nation.
@dreamervanroom
@dreamervanroom 2 роки тому
@@shahbanunilofartajik i hear you. I know litttle about all this. I heard a Malcolm Nance interview 2..3 days ago. Then so fat listened to half (so far) of a long lecture from Yale yesterday and I started this today. You dont know me but please, I would like you to give me more to read or listen to. Thank you.
@CountingStars333
@CountingStars333 2 роки тому
You do know Tajikistan is real.
@slabdab4202
@slabdab4202 2 роки тому
Canada is the same
@stevenleslie8557
@stevenleslie8557 2 роки тому
Do you now live there?
@ahmadsafari8181
@ahmadsafari8181 4 роки тому
I'm proud to be Tajik and i respect to all my country tribes and love them ✊🏻👏🏻❤️💐💖💕💖💐💝 we are together
@masyaf897
@masyaf897 4 роки тому
Same
@khanjaaan5800
@khanjaaan5800 4 роки тому
Yes bro manana
@walid3207
@walid3207 3 роки тому
@@khanjaaan5800 afghanisfan is of pashtun
@shah.w
@shah.w 3 роки тому
@@walid3207 You are a poor educated you don't know history.
@walid3207
@walid3207 3 роки тому
@@shah.w go baxk to turkmenistan
@BizRasam
@BizRasam 5 років тому
As an Afghan Pashtun I am greatful for such insight into Afghanistan and it's people.
@baruchhashem49
@baruchhashem49 4 роки тому
Are not they not the people of Moses. A lost tribe of Israel
@hrr_
@hrr_ 4 роки тому
@@fsbm1337 bghairtaa da commnts delet ka😠
@user-ug2jp9uc5m
@user-ug2jp9uc5m 4 роки тому
@@hrr_ der kha ye wrta wele di . Sta pki sa kaar di
@BizRasam
@BizRasam 4 роки тому
The comments prove the chaos within and around Afghanistan and it's region.
@afzaliaf5585
@afzaliaf5585 3 роки тому
Pashton are lost trip of Israel actually, it's a fact.
@thegreatest1176
@thegreatest1176 2 роки тому
I learned more about my people and culture then i ever imagined. As a mix afghan (tajik mother, hazara/pashtune Persianise father) its really eye opening about my past, cause I can relate to all that he mentions. Even though I am mix child, I am still pulled to one side of a tribe and religious sect, since I refer to myself as kabuli and sunni, which goes to show the ethnic identity is strong. Also this talk forgot to mention all the racism/prejudice discriminations in the society. all round a fascinating talk, just praying that stability reaches my land as oppose to extremism.
@latetodagame1892
@latetodagame1892 2 роки тому
Don't worry. I got that, the racism.
@thegreatest1176
@thegreatest1176 2 роки тому
@@latetodagame1892 lots of it
@piyushjaiswal9283
@piyushjaiswal9283 2 роки тому
Hazaras are not pashtuns
@RamKumar-yi6wn
@RamKumar-yi6wn 2 роки тому
Hello there. Are you out of Afghanistan now ?
@thegreatest1176
@thegreatest1176 2 роки тому
@@piyushjaiswal9283 I never said they were, I am a multi ethnic person
@johnmartlew
@johnmartlew 2 роки тому
I learned more truth about Afghanistan here than I will ever learn in school or news reports.
@todd7419
@todd7419 2 роки тому
Well, it is a lecture
@davemccombs
@davemccombs 2 роки тому
@@elperroreggae It's called "history" Guessing your classes were a little more simplified?
@theoutlook55
@theoutlook55 2 роки тому
Agreed
@uthoshantm
@uthoshantm 2 роки тому
News reports are for commercial or propaganda purposes, not to inform. That applies to all news networks.
@KristopherNoronha
@KristopherNoronha 2 роки тому
This is a really good lecture. I wish more people could see things from an Afghan perspective - this barely scratches the surface, but it lays bare the fact that the rest of the world just assumes the people of Afghanistan think and feel and organize themselves the way other countries/communities in the region do.
@LazarusSlade
@LazarusSlade 2 роки тому
Cool. Now lose the soul patch. It doesn't do you any favors!
@satoshinakamoto7253
@satoshinakamoto7253 2 роки тому
taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS
@anonymous_4276
@anonymous_4276 4 місяці тому
Each country views itself differently. Yet people tend to simplify things.
@khuramkarim
@khuramkarim 2 роки тому
As an Afghan, I would say it is extremely well stated. I am surprised for the first time ever in my life watching a foreigner who has very deep understanding of Afghanistan 🇦🇫.
@RicTic66
@RicTic66 7 років тому
very informative. thank you for posting.
@thomasrimer1611
@thomasrimer1611 2 роки тому
Amazing talk! This is way better in the background than any podcast
@astupiddvdcase
@astupiddvdcase 2 роки тому
Yup, intellectual lectures by academics at the top of their field> stupid youtube or podcast personalities who thinks their opinion is right
@zakisulimani6134
@zakisulimani6134 4 роки тому
I am a Hazara and I am proud of my Identity and my country
@waynedombrowski7568
@waynedombrowski7568 3 роки тому
It might not happen in our lifetimes,but I am certain that someday Afghanistan will have a Hazara president.
@darkthought784
@darkthought784 3 роки тому
isn't u monguls !?
@walid3207
@walid3207 2 роки тому
@@waynedombrowski7568 never, we will surely prevent that.. pashtuns rule afghanistan nd that will always be the same
@espribrockway
@espribrockway 2 роки тому
Hey, Ive been looking everywhere to talk to an Afgh.ani person, and specifically a Hazari perspective on everything going on. My country is very censored and I cannot find your perspective anywhere. Is there any way we could talk? I see through our prop.*ganda. Excuse the use of periods and stars in this; it's the only way this will stay up, unfortunately. Hope ur having a nice day though!
@espribrockway
@espribrockway 2 роки тому
@@waynedombrowski7568 Do you have an Instagram or any alternative way that we could talk? I'd love your perspective on everything and learn from you. Thanks so much, hope you are doing well.
@lokitus
@lokitus 2 роки тому
This is an amazing lecture! Thank you!
@malikumairzafar
@malikumairzafar 5 років тому
Very informative and intriguing lecture, thanks.
@karoma7898
@karoma7898 2 роки тому
I loooooove listening to someone with actually experience and not just he said she said :)
@josephhazzouri1373
@josephhazzouri1373 2 роки тому
As a disabled/homebound person who has given up on the news that was Enlightening!🎈
@shah.w
@shah.w 6 років тому
We are TÜRKMEN Oguz Türks from northern and northwest of Afghanistan.Thank you for sharing informative ethnic group of Afghanistan. Long life Afghanistan.🇦🇫💂‍♂️💝🌹
@walid3207
@walid3207 3 роки тому
You are not afghan.. pashtuns are real afghan
@shah.w
@shah.w 3 роки тому
@@walid3207 Of course we are Turks not you! Your 1st tribal leader were a loyal soldier of our last Empire Nader Shah Afshar. So you have gotten power by us don't forget the history of the great Seljuk, Ghaznavid, Kharizmed, Mongols, Timored , and Safevid and the last one Afshars. I also like respect Ahmad Shah Durani and Mahmoud Hotak, Shah Amanullah Ghazi, And President Sardar Mohammad Dawood khan.
@sahilovo1208
@sahilovo1208 3 роки тому
Every single Turk ethnicity that was living in Afghanistan Are as much as Afghans like the pushtuns are respect your fellow country men’s and you will get respect. Don’t separate one another spread love
@walid3207
@walid3207 3 роки тому
@@sahilovo1208 no. Pashtuns were and are ruling afghanistan for centuries
@shah.w
@shah.w 3 роки тому
@@walid3207 After last king Nader Shah Afshar Khorasan became apart and still during Ahmad Shah Durani Afghanistan was big and great. But, unfortunately the King family became weaker and has lost some part of territory
@mikegray8776
@mikegray8776 2 роки тому
Fabulous lecture - well done!! Clearly this Professor has huge knowledge born of experience, but more than that, his style of delivery is so interesting snd compelling. I now understand so much more about the country
@morthim
@morthim 2 роки тому
extremely good video, well done and thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@l1ncs
@l1ncs 2 роки тому
thank you for publishing this lecture
@gordonbryce
@gordonbryce 2 роки тому
A very clear and intelligent analysis, thanks for posting!
@davidgray3321
@davidgray3321 2 роки тому
Coming from a Scottish family this is all very familiar! My ex girlfriend was up in the highlands and knocked on a bed and breakfast house (they saw a sign up) , and the lady who answered “your not campbells are you? No they replied , “you can come in then”
@003mohamud
@003mohamud 2 роки тому
Im from somalia and we also have a clan system. It just leads to record breaking nepotism and endless clan feuds.
@davidgray3321
@davidgray3321 2 роки тому
@@003mohamud Hello Samatar , I agree it can be unhealthy, I also think in some countries there can be a surplus population if the land is not good farmland, then people either leave or have endless fighting. I think that is what has been the history of Afghanistan. But they have many cleaver people and I wish them peace and happiness in the future. I understand that in the past Muslim world was very advanced in philosophy and mathematics. Time to be great again. What do you think of Haile Selassie from Ethiopia?
@003mohamud
@003mohamud 2 роки тому
@@davidgray3321 I also wish peace in the Muslim world. As for Haile, so long as the Ogaden remains under Ethiopian control I will not have a positive view of any early-modern or modern Ethiopian leader. The peoples of Ethiopia I have a positive view of though.
@marymorton9117
@marymorton9117 2 роки тому
Fascinating! Really enjoyed the lecture. Learned a lot.
@TheReactor8
@TheReactor8 2 роки тому
Great lecture. I learned much about myself and mine European history too.
@JorgeGarcia-lw7vc
@JorgeGarcia-lw7vc 2 роки тому
Beyond the Mark Hamill resemblance, this man has a lot of valuable insight for beginners. The geography has a strong influence on the social and political norms that develop and the culture that congeals around it. It is an amazing place with amazing people, struggling in these difficult times.
@SeanT649
@SeanT649 2 роки тому
Beginners at what ?
@JorgeGarcia-lw7vc
@JorgeGarcia-lw7vc 2 роки тому
@@SeanT649 I meant those that are for the first time beginning research on Afghanistan. But actually it is also excellent for everyone, since there are some people that have worked and lived there and have not yet grasped the insight of Professor Barfield.
@JorgeGarcia-lw7vc
@JorgeGarcia-lw7vc 2 роки тому
@Amy Callis there are tons of online ethnic maps of AFGH to complement his great insight. Those maps tell you only a little about dynamics.
@JorgeGarcia-lw7vc
@JorgeGarcia-lw7vc 2 роки тому
@Amy Callis In this case, I disagree, since he is adding a special type of insight value beyond mapping. If it is for a complete, comprehensive course, yeah, you're right. It's just super insightful what he is saying.
@JorgeGarcia-lw7vc
@JorgeGarcia-lw7vc 2 роки тому
@Amy Callis I just think you're not giving the man a fair shot. He's not supposed to entertain you with graphics or visuals, but to explain what is going on. It's free, and for someone like me that worked five years in AFGH, his stuff is golden and not something that everyone gets. It's not supposed to be a comprehensive course or training or something for the unserious who need gimmicks to keep their attention, but a solid, good intro into the dynamics related to ethnicity in AFGH. When people complain that the audio wasn't good enough or the colors were this or that, or that there were no maps, I just roll my eyes.
@Sandertie1
@Sandertie1 2 роки тому
Amazing talk, thank you very much.
@thierryfontenay3770
@thierryfontenay3770 2 роки тому
The most interesting lecture I ever heard about Afghanistan. Thanks !
@philipmulville8218
@philipmulville8218 2 роки тому
A very interesting and informative lecture. Professor Barfield is brilliant.
@satoshinakamoto7253
@satoshinakamoto7253 2 роки тому
taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS
@badbrig
@badbrig 2 роки тому
Fantastic! Hugely impressed by the content, delivery and presentation. And the logic works in northern India too (up to Punjab/himachal/Hill states. Well done, Sir!
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 2 роки тому
As an ethnic Appalachian, aka Christian Afghanistan, this sounds a lot like us, except we don't have the top-level ethnicities.
@yannick245
@yannick245 2 роки тому
Ha! The last clip I watched on UKposts was _"Who are the Appalachians?" by Masaman_
@tomd6053
@tomd6053 2 роки тому
Religion backed by delusion, delusion backed by religion, sounds about right
@tonyconnolly5385
@tonyconnolly5385 2 роки тому
Mountain people have a lot in common worldwide.
@bun197
@bun197 2 роки тому
@@tomd6053 *tips fedora* take this upvote my good sir!!!
@coreygolphenee9633
@coreygolphenee9633 2 роки тому
Is it that religiously divided? I always assumed that the lines between those families we drawn based on pretenses of previous national identity
@krisinsaigon
@krisinsaigon 2 роки тому
Very interesting I studied pre modern history at university and so these ideas remind me of the societies i did study
@DreamteamCarlo
@DreamteamCarlo 2 роки тому
Excellent lecture, and a nice delivery too. Afghanistan is such an intriguing place, I wish all it’s people well. 🙏
@zema2071
@zema2071 2 роки тому
For some one to be so educated and accept citizenship of a middle age country which doesn't even exist, he would have to be bitten by a rabid dog, stoned and fucking boozed all together at once and even then he would have second thoughts.
@sohrabtajadin3402
@sohrabtajadin3402 2 роки тому
SUPERB LECTURE. Bravo!!!
@SafiullahBazarg
@SafiullahBazarg 10 місяців тому
I am Afghan Pashton i proud my Countryman Hazar,Tajik,Uzbek❤
@will2003michael2003
@will2003michael2003 2 роки тому
I cannot wait to be able to watch the whole thing.
@vikramheble9972
@vikramheble9972 2 роки тому
An extremely educative lecture and well presented too.
@user-fm9mf5mn4b
@user-fm9mf5mn4b 3 роки тому
I born In Iran as pashton and we lived there for 20 years. But all our family speak perfectly pashto and farsi. I want forget Farsi lanavauge now by purpose because i dont need it anymore. I started learning pashto writin and reading from youtube. I am proud to be pashton I will never forget My lanavauge, culture, leaders and hiatory.
@asmamhz3870
@asmamhz3870 3 роки тому
u're racist
@AzizKhan-ei3gp
@AzizKhan-ei3gp 3 роки тому
Appreciated
@SherKhan-rd9uw
@SherKhan-rd9uw 3 роки тому
@@asmamhz3870 Pashtuns should neverr learn another langauge. Unless its their mother tounge first Respect wror. Pashto for pashtuns
@Tajikdxt
@Tajikdxt 2 роки тому
thanks, a dirty talib shouldn’t speak persian and taint our elegant language with that shitty southern accent ❤️
@chrisz9732
@chrisz9732 2 роки тому
"The Iranians, they speak Persian very funny" lmao
@alexiveperez4687
@alexiveperez4687 2 роки тому
Funny thing is they do. Afghan persian sounds way more normal. Iranians sound like they have a British accent somehow.
@Theroadneverending
@Theroadneverending 2 роки тому
@@alexiveperez4687 wat
@alexiveperez4687
@alexiveperez4687 2 роки тому
@POtusq add I learned persian in kabul. Only people in Mashhad and such places sound normal to me.
@alexiveperez4687
@alexiveperez4687 2 роки тому
@POtusq add Herati to me sounds half way to Iranian yes. I think it depends on the person also maybe.
@christopherlord3441
@christopherlord3441 2 роки тому
Excellent talk. Keep up the good work.
@e.doviabbey6408
@e.doviabbey6408 2 роки тому
Brilliant work through an immersive experience! I wish Sir Mortimer Durand had Professor Barfield's knowledge and intellectual humility. The interplay between these human groups and the geography of the country, i.e., the lay of the land, should provide even more crucial insights into the dynamics of Afghan society.
@Theguys1
@Theguys1 2 роки тому
This is excellent!
@priscillanaseery2581
@priscillanaseery2581 4 роки тому
This was such an amazing lecture. Thank you for sharing this with the world.
@matmos9293
@matmos9293 3 роки тому
Ali was never the founder of the Shia sect. His knowledge in that department is totally wrong, even the Shia never claim that. Ali is the fourth Khalif of Sunni Islam, but Thomes did not know that.
@AbdullFattahBakhshiaf
@AbdullFattahBakhshiaf 3 роки тому
All what he says and doubts are almost true about Afghanistan. But as Hazaras, Uzbek, Pashtun and Tajik we can’t accept these facts and figures, because we desire more authority and power in Afghanistan for our ethnicity, in order to have more power we express us more about population and history or mostly exaggerating and even Lying about our people.
@HiRobert
@HiRobert 2 роки тому
Great job, UKposts! Helpful video to stumble across rn.
@anishtiwari6197
@anishtiwari6197 2 роки тому
This is a beautiful lecture. Thank you
@pamiriaryan9941
@pamiriaryan9941 6 років тому
Good point about Nawruz (Zoroastrian) holiday that Arabs had to recognize because people would not accept other-way. Other fact you forgot to mention that first time in the history of Islam, holy Koran was translated to foreign language and it was tajik (dari) language in Bukhara in order to attract tajiks-afghans-persians and even first Juma namaz was in Persian language. Majority of the Sunni Muslims are followers of Imam Abu Hanafia, his ancestors were tajiks from Afghanistan, Imam Al Bukhari one of the greatest Hadith recorder(?). If you go to Chechen republic they are followers of Sufi Naqshbandi who was tajik from Bukhara. Tajik Afghan Persian world had huge impact on Islam through poetry literature that's why we understand Islam more than just religion it's our poetry literature culture. The word Namaz is not Arabic , or Roza or even celebrating Nawruz as new year and main holiday says a lot.
@faaris1395
@faaris1395 5 років тому
so your telling me muhammad (saw) spoke persian. if you have any islamic knowledge you would know 1) the prophet was illiterate and 2) the 1st jumah was in quba (near madinah) so nwhy would the prophet speak persian to arabs and finally the prophet didnt know persian. non arabs only say "namaz" and "roza"
@TheAfghan72
@TheAfghan72 4 роки тому
Abu Hanifa was Tajik? lol.
@ThePhoenix109
@ThePhoenix109 3 роки тому
@@TheAfghan72 what then?
@tiktokgamingyt6942
@tiktokgamingyt6942 3 роки тому
@@TheAfghan72 imam sab tajik all imam sab love you,,,
@iamannocent2913
@iamannocent2913 2 роки тому
mans talking out of his ass
@fireking565
@fireking565 3 роки тому
This guy knows everything about Afghanistan he should get his Afghan citizenship 🇦🇫👍
@tiktokgamingyt6942
@tiktokgamingyt6942 3 роки тому
Afghan fights in home like to brothers ,,,one mother sons,,,,,,I love you my lovely Afghanistan ,,,,,
@lucascoval828
@lucascoval828 2 роки тому
Uh.......😐
@PBTKaizen
@PBTKaizen 2 роки тому
Or be the “Afghan” cultural advisor to U.S…..
@halluciongen3000
@halluciongen3000 2 роки тому
It’s good to know that Afghans approve
@invest_in_dogecoin6398
@invest_in_dogecoin6398 2 роки тому
I don’t think anyone wants to move to Afghanistan bro
@qinby1182
@qinby1182 2 роки тому
Think I have to watch this a couple of times to digest it... Very interesting.
@callenjohnson81
@callenjohnson81 2 роки тому
Thanks this was an incredible education on Afghanistan.. its in the news alot & I wanted to know more.
@hamedrahimi1237
@hamedrahimi1237 3 роки тому
This lecture was very close to accurate. I think one of the reasons that we made/make in Afghanistan 🇦🇫 is that we accept just governmental history. This lecture is look base on facts.
@natoranchod4282
@natoranchod4282 2 роки тому
Thank you for respecting afghans thinking they are certainly wonderful muslim althogh im a hindu
@zabsar3615
@zabsar3615 2 роки тому
Decentralized government is the answer, hence why Islam allows shoora to select their leader:
@peterfrankiewicz9379
@peterfrankiewicz9379 2 роки тому
great lecture, thanks.
@Kommandant7
@Kommandant7 2 роки тому
Gold knowledge; thanks for sharing!
@tpgt4588
@tpgt4588 2 роки тому
Great lesson thank you so much professor Thomas
@markpartridge378
@markpartridge378 2 роки тому
Fascinating lecture - what I found really interesting was that almost everything he said applied equally to my own country and my experiences in it. The fragmented society, the lack of clearly defined groups, the unasked and unanswered contradictions, truths that exist because "we say it's true", solidarity against outsiders but returning to old internecine disputes when left alone...I have lived within several different ethnic groups in my country and observed the same issues and ways of dealing with them in all of them. Perhaps what Thomas Barfield describes is actually a clearer way of looking at my own country also; guess where I live!
@twangbarfly
@twangbarfly 2 роки тому
Sounds like the UK .... could be virtually anywhere. Well-stated analysis though!
@theoutlook55
@theoutlook55 2 роки тому
What is your own country, now that you bring it up?
@satoshinakamoto7253
@satoshinakamoto7253 2 роки тому
taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS
@markpartridge378
@markpartridge378 2 роки тому
@@theoutlook55 Born in England of mixed English, Irish and Jewish stock. Spent twenty five years in the Hebrides, my kids consider themselves Scottish. Also live and worked in Kenya, now moving to Wales - for how long I am not sure. I don't really feel that attached to any clump of soil, I have the right to various passports but I rarely consider the question of nationality. That's why this lecture was so fascinating - I came to it hoping to learn more about what I thought were an alien people, only to realise how similar they are to many of the folk I know.
@theoutlook55
@theoutlook55 2 роки тому
@@markpartridge378 👍🏿
@hosank
@hosank 2 роки тому
At least now the mystery of Luke Skywalker’s whereabouts between Episodes VI and VIII has been solved. He was busy studying the ethnic groups of Afghanistan
@3aeren
@3aeren 2 роки тому
William Forsythe
@jowlorenz9555
@jowlorenz9555 2 роки тому
Afganistan may as well be Tatooine desert planet .
@hosank
@hosank 2 роки тому
@@jowlorenz9555 I always thought the Hazara people are basically the Jawa of Central Asia
@satoshinakamoto7253
@satoshinakamoto7253 2 роки тому
taliban just want virgins who will make them a sandwich, no western feminist BS
@abdrahmanabdaziz319
@abdrahmanabdaziz319 2 роки тому
Thank you for the talk.
@tpgt4588
@tpgt4588 2 роки тому
In the confusion off afghanistan the professor Thomas has clear ideas , one more time thanks for the lesson
@robparker6802
@robparker6802 2 роки тому
He wrote "Isamic" on the board rather than Islamic. Really informative and thoughtful talk explaining some of the nuances.
@tomjohn8733
@tomjohn8733 2 роки тому
This helped to make everything as clear as mud, but it covered the subject very well, not long ago I watch a documentary about Afghanistan when Buddhism existed there, the producer obviously understood how to navigate the complex system, by honoring those who were were in charge each step of the way, in order to make his film, that when in whatever region of the country, do as they do, respect their customs, respect the people…and they will tolerate your intrusion with curiosity, etc, no wonder our attempts to change Afghanistan ended as it did…our leaders never really understood Afghanistan complexity, it is what it is, Peace
@martinkrehl1478
@martinkrehl1478 2 роки тому
That was brilliant!
@Cgh432
@Cgh432 2 роки тому
Great lecture loved this 👍
@theaestheticcactus7889
@theaestheticcactus7889 2 роки тому
Quite an insightful lecture, kind of a coincidence I get this in my recommended videos given how up in the air things are over there at the minute
@stephenwallace8782
@stephenwallace8782 2 роки тому
THomas Barfield is just wildly insightful, holy shit.
@justadude9110
@justadude9110 2 роки тому
He aint no Tom Garfield, holy spider 🕷
@ConservativeAnthem
@ConservativeAnthem 2 роки тому
Hopefully his grade school name wasn't 'Barf.'
@abdulhalimmahmud7891
@abdulhalimmahmud7891 2 роки тому
Enlightening lectures
@standing8count923
@standing8count923 2 роки тому
Wow this guy is a phenomenal teacher!
@aristeidislykas7163
@aristeidislykas7163 3 роки тому
Excellent lecture
@AMuuse-ih2oo
@AMuuse-ih2oo 2 роки тому
I'm from🇸🇴Somalia🇸🇴Somali tribe. the professor understands very well about tribes, specifically identity clan or small depends on the issue or who you ask. when it's Ethiopia 🇪🇹 ethnics have another meaning.
@faresrizk7725
@faresrizk7725 9 місяців тому
Somali society is clan based, the trouble with Somalia is that in the absence, between the darod, the issaq, etc etc, a common understanding of brotherhood, clanism meant that the only political options of strengths were the extremists of the communists or the Saudi/wahabbi Islamist movement extremists.
@massoudahmadi1127
@massoudahmadi1127 4 роки тому
Thank you for your great information...
@salmanshahzad772
@salmanshahzad772 2 роки тому
Excellent lecture Dr Barfield has great understanding of Afghan culture it certainly gave me a better understanding.
@mathewsmith1277
@mathewsmith1277 2 роки тому
Everything he say is on point great 👍
@area609joe2
@area609joe2 2 роки тому
Anthropology is Amazing. context is important.
@qetiogusliriope7436
@qetiogusliriope7436 2 роки тому
This is a great video.
@marilynbash8718
@marilynbash8718 2 роки тому
Excellent. Explained so much. Great sense of humor.
@haneefkhan8281
@haneefkhan8281 5 років тому
I am pashtun and thank you for information..you are to intellegent person...
@poorushotamgujadhur4054
@poorushotamgujadhur4054 2 роки тому
Very informative. I learnt a lot from your vast knowledge. Keep on sharing and disseminating your valuable views and comments.
@sylvia106
@sylvia106 2 роки тому
Learned*
@riyadhmohamedain4522
@riyadhmohamedain4522 2 роки тому
@@sylvia106 In UK/International spelling its learnt, in US spelling it's learned. So he was still correct.
@poorushotamgujadhur4054
@poorushotamgujadhur4054 2 роки тому
@@sylvia106 Thanks for correction of grammatical mistake.
@Rajj854
@Rajj854 2 роки тому
Superb. This is a gem.
@Ben-fk9ey
@Ben-fk9ey 2 роки тому
This is fascinating!
@MandolinSunrise
@MandolinSunrise 2 роки тому
‘Tribal and Religious Identity in USA’ would be an interesting social/anthropological vid too. But at the end of the day people don’t like having bombs dropped on them, they observe, witness, remember...
@vodkaboy
@vodkaboy Рік тому
attention ca coupe les mandolines
@OscarRuiz-gj3mp
@OscarRuiz-gj3mp 2 роки тому
I wonder what is his understanding of the situation now? Very good talk. I expected to listen for ten minutes and stayed the almost hour.... LOL!
@brianfeely9239
@brianfeely9239 2 роки тому
Truly superb work and presentation
@alephd93
@alephd93 2 роки тому
This was amazing work. As a Pashayi Pakhtun i enjoyed it
@mekaeil8018
@mekaeil8018 Рік тому
Pashai are pakhtuns so call yourself proud pakhtun or afghan
@noahmarx8297
@noahmarx8297 2 роки тому
"Afghanistan's greatest export is rugs" cut to 2021, Afghanistan produces 90% of the world's heroin supply, valued in excess of $100,000,000,000
@lesroesch
@lesroesch 2 роки тому
Isn't that the real reason the US was there - so the CIA could capture the poppy fields to fund their black ops? Probably Nato and Mossad as well.
@terrencebranscombe3257
@terrencebranscombe3257 2 роки тому
I imagine the Afghan farmers growing the crop, and their low-level buyers, see several orders of magnitude less than that number you quoted, hence the industry may play a smaller role in organizing Afghan politics than your figure suggests, but it's an important omission nevertheless from an otherwise very insightful lecture.
@mathewgrelr7084
@mathewgrelr7084 2 роки тому
No one buys there heroin anymore it's all fentenal from china
@captainalex157
@captainalex157 2 роки тому
@@lesroesch yeah just throw out some theory without any evidence, why not throw in the free masons and illuminati as well?
@lesroesch
@lesroesch 2 роки тому
@@captainalex157 Nice try.
@voidhog1028
@voidhog1028 2 роки тому
the one student laughing at the jokes is my favorite person
@Bart-Did-it
@Bart-Did-it 2 роки тому
@Ahmad خان 😅
@holymoly8848
@holymoly8848 2 роки тому
@Ahmad خان 37 apparently and you did enough to comment you miserable human 😂😂
@daniyalnaqvi2569
@daniyalnaqvi2569 2 роки тому
HAHAHAHA true
@kmeadows100
@kmeadows100 2 роки тому
Fascinating lecture.
@curlykipper
@curlykipper 2 роки тому
Lucky students. An excellent lecture, so much insight and filled with humor. Thank you for posting. The most peculiar point that sticks in my mind is the description of the propensity to 'circular logic' - that being born a good muslim is enough to justify one's actions whether they are religiously proper or not. Anyone who has journeyed even slightly in non-western countries will understand how the power of faith is a deeply motivating force. To westerners, who have been educated to believe in a logical world, this can be quite unsettling.
@AbdullFattahBakhshiaf
@AbdullFattahBakhshiaf 3 роки тому
About the Hazaras, they don’t only looks like Mangols but also like Turks und Uzbeks. Their language are Persian/ Hazaragi
@dewanaafgun8668
@dewanaafgun8668 3 роки тому
Hazara is not Mongol do you understand
@patika.rebetika
@patika.rebetika 2 роки тому
Is Hazaragi similar to Turkish?
@user-fy9el2zu5g
@user-fy9el2zu5g 2 роки тому
@@patika.rebetika it’s 97% Persian like, so very minutely Turkic.
@HeavyK.
@HeavyK. 2 роки тому
This guy has a great voice.
@prasannanepal2050
@prasannanepal2050 2 роки тому
wow what a beautifully explained lecture
@joecapesius2887
@joecapesius2887 2 роки тому
Thomas explains this very complicated topic with ease, suggesting he really knows what he is talking about.
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