I've been listening to this man for over a year but only just found this lecture (a huge thank you to the person in another comment section who recommended it to me! I returned the favour by recommending The Making Of Modern Ukraine series). Listening to this now is both chilling and illuminating. Vindicating, too, since this is the sort of thing I said (obviously not as well) in the arguments I started having with several of my friends and acquaintances after February 2022. I'm going to recommend this video to anyone I talk to about Ukraine from now on. It's been a while since your comment, Maksym... I hope you and your loved ones are well and as safe as you can be. Переможете 💙💛

+ashramshef By taking free drugs brought to Maidan many people stood there for weeks almost without sleep.

+CloneD Anon Maybe you have a photo of those free drugs?

ashramshef How else people stay up for weeks and MANY Ukrainians admit that drugs were common in the maidan, most of all some amphetamine style drug was deluded into the tea which was free to everyone 24/7. Maidan was a investment.

Show me these "MANY" Ukrainians.

@@ashramshef Evidence?:))) Russian trolls need no evidence:)

Yea, Pepe is a gem

why would you expect better from soviet puppets?

On what specifics has Tucker Carlson lied in this context? I've been paying attention to the Ukraine/Russia conflict since 2013/2014,… even visited both countries in the surrounding vicinity of the conflict. From what I can tell this is largely a USA infringement on Russian neighborhood polarity (it's about regional social-political systems, not law, given the intertwined history of Russia in the region, eastern and south USSR-Ukraine area, which was Russia before it was Ukraine as a state then country, post 1991)

@@bonsummers2657 TC has lied about everything... Ethnic issues in Ukraine, religious freedom and the supposed "Ukrainian" Orthodox church, opposition parties being outlawed, Zelensky breaking the constitution, and so on and so forth. While you "paid attention" to the conflict, I lived it. While you visited neighboring countries, I was living in Ukraine since 1995. Your view of history is incorrect. Russia was born out of Ukraine and not the other way around. Ukraine is Russia's mother and Russia is committing matricide. I used to think TC had poo for brains, but then I realized he has poo for a conscience. Your pedantic meanderings are worthless... Ukraine is its own country and it wants freedom. Russia has attacked without being provoked.

I am an Eastern bloc person. Czech. I was never surprised and I was always looking at that area with worry. Mixed nationality area + Russia as a neighbour + difficult history + inequality in industry and wealth. What could go wrong? When Putin started tightening up screws, first coming back as a ruler forever, going after opposition, press... I was like "why the hell nobody is doing anything against it?" After Crimea I was livid. Nobody seemed to notice it´s getting serious. Why do people who actually understand the problem never get the floor to influence politicians?

Good he left out everything that is important as to where we are today in Ukraine/Russia.

@toddgrady7119 For early 2014, he actually did hit the nail on the head. I don't think you watched it trough or understand. It's an analysis of situation 9 years ago, they didn't have "today" then.

Missed too much.

precicly, this lecture is misleading, Ukrainans were not the Vikings, not the Russ, and they were very small ethnick group in the very west part of what today Ukraine is. Somehow the Moscovites in this lecture apprered out of the blue and dropped on beautiful Ukrainan lands , what a joke..

Stop twisting the history. Cossacks were mainly East Slavs, especially Russian and Ukrainian people. In the 15th century, the term originally described semi-independent Tatar groups which lived on the Dniepr River, which flows through Ukraine, Russia and Belarus.

Obviously, it works. Most people in the world are lazy, so they just listen to the loudest and most persistent voice.

Wu Tang Ghostface Killah There's also the point that journalism in Ukraine is incredibly unprofessional. Short of a couple really bright reporters and investigators like Yuri Butusov, we have nothing to counter the Russian lies with because our news outlets don't produce strong and convincing stories either. We have nothing to show internationally to counter RT.

VioletGiraffe I couldn't agree more. Most Ukrainian journalists are so emotionally involved in the conflict, they don't seem to notice how much of their writing is rhetoric and propaganda, and how little of it provides information that could be used to counter Kremlin's. Compared to Russians, they are amateurs. Which raises the question, what were those proverbial State Dept's $5 billion spent on? If you invest in a country's civil society, shouldn't you spend some on training journalists and editors?

Ivan Lenin funny thing is that you are using classical NLP trick wrapping lie inside the truth. Yes, ukrainian journalists are unprofessional. But whole russian media is big propaganda machine, controlled by one person. Yes it is professional machine but yet it has nothing to do with journalism.

Ivan Lenin That's not what I am talking about. You're not even making sense.

2022 now & it’s aged better than ever.

It's even more important today than it's ever been.

I'm 48 minutes into the video and not once is American interference mentioned, Victoria Newland's selection of a new leader neither the $5Billion pumped into the realisation of the Maidan revolution.

And yet, I was just wondering if he may be the Marshall McIuhan of our day. I find this guy brilliant, except how can anyone agree that Hillary's office should have smashed up those servers with a hammer "because those emails were personal," Looper. They probably would have revealed a lot about the activities of The Clinton Foundation or the illegality of our wars of economic intervention. He is wrong on Russiagate if "one" "looks at" "the evidence" I have heard of. It seems like if we went back and established what the "facts" of the Meuller Report are, we might have a hard time disagreeing in public, or it would be an excellent debate. I read Anne Applebaum's "Red Famine" and noticed her speaking with a Russian anti-Ukranian way of doing things bias that had nothing to do with the Holodomor. It seems as if, historically, the Russians and Ukranian people have a lot in common. Victimhood becomes complex. Going back to the beginning of things is sometimes useful. How do we certify that the Ukranian election was "free and fair?"

If you call quality what this jack ass said then you are a westbot and a russophile.

That saying is very strong. No-one can denies that we live in a world full of bots and brainless people.

Just because a person has an opinion different to yours does NOT make him/her a bot. If you wish to make a useful contribution then gather your arguments and facts and present them in a cogent and defensible fashion. Thank you.

@khunmikeon858 "Opinion different than yours" is an euphemism for kremlinbot behaviour copied by irl fascists and braindead genocide apologists in your case. There's absolutely no difference to us if you get paid for your BS or not, you're a sworn enemy wageing an infowar and will get punished accordingly. You either don't know what's been goung on in comments everywhere ir you're really a kremlinbot - the latter being more common than the former.

csenuber Nope, you are wrong. Ukrainian peasants were just as poor as polish peasants, and Ukrainian nobles were just as rich as Polish nobles. Except after a few generations those Ukrainian nobles started to speak Polish, which alienated the peasants. Except Ukraine had these things called Cossacks, which were paid based on a 'registry' and had special privileges others did not. Those Cossacks got pissed off Poland would not increase their registry and was preventing them from raiding neighboring Ottoman lands (due to peace treaty) so they riled up the Ukrainian peasants, started a revolution in the hopes of becoming absolute rulers. Well guess what happened, they became worse then slaves, all the cossacks were ELIMINATED. And Ukraine has only been worse off since.

Whatever129 Cossacks were eliminated? Go tell that to newly elected into Ukrainian Parliament dudes. Some of them would be very surprised. And Noble Ukrainians Bohdan Hmelnitsky run under Russian protection. Whatever lands he brought to Russian Tsar is Ukraine, the rest is their wishful thinking.

wise man? he's a crook and propagandist, his ridiculous claims are not correspond to history articles in wikipedia. it's pretty funny how you buying any bullshit without even attempt to check the facts. I can't believe that he is an academic and this is what Western audience think.

Whatever129 oh smell an expert. your buddy John from nearest farm told you that? To be clear, you are an idiot. Read a wiki about Cossacks at last, it's not related exclusively to Ukraine. "All cossacks were eliminated" lol. What a garbage really.

Believe me, it is difference to write a book in a nice house in US about those countries, like to live there for a long time enough to, at least, start to little bit understand what is it really about. I live decades in east and decade in west, I know what I am talking about.

Yeah,, he was awful. And completely managed to deny the agency of Eastern/Southern Ukrainians, as well.

Update your speech Ivan.. The "pro-soviet" was not pro or against..he couldn't be since the whole ruckus was about an association and trade with the EU not membership.. You talk about accounting being flawed but you do not know the most basic and primary facts..Hell..you don't even know that the Soviet Union no longer exists!

Thanks for this account which is to my opinion an accurate one and is backed by many facts. All ukrainian governments after the coup did their best to create a massive propaganda of those events writing it down into history books and people's minds likewise as a glorious expression of the prople's will to become a democratic country. Still not their btw. Never were heading their. For me (I am ukrainian) the war started right there and it is one between the US and Russia. But on the ukrainian ground and fought by ukrainians who pay for this politics of the corrupt few by their lives. SAD

@@ollyr_3710 You aren’t alone.

Thank you for the TRUTH, James!

This professor which is very educated is so very wrong with this information that he is providing. Mongols didn't destroy the cities that accepted their rule and paid them timely. Alexander Nevsky bent the knee to the Mongols and thus was able to preserve Rus culture and way of life in Novgorod. When his kin 2 centuries later defeated the Mongols, the culture from Novgorod became the main culture and spread to other regions when the territories around it was being assimilated into what became eventually the Russian Empore. His story is full of logics and people are here gobbling it because they don't know better.

Also interesting fact that practically every second secretary of state in USSR actually came from Ukraine

@@orangepants5749 Even Soviet presidents came from Ukraine. Leonoid "paranoia" Brezhev was a Ukrainian.

I think this is exactly what he touches on when he says this attitude of relativism comes from misconceived ideals of objectivity in Western media. (See: the 5 talking heads example, which is something often employed by FOX, MSNBC, and countless others) But just because the west does it as well doesn't mean it's good, or that we should accept and support it. I think this arrogance of undefined ideals and murky value projection is exactly what the talk criticizes, implicitly - and it's a concern that many in Europe and North America share. I can assure you of that.

***** Maybe I'm missed something, my English far from good. But I thought that Timothy Snyder proceeds from the american exceptionalism. What if Russians actions is simply reaction against Western pressure? Yes, Russians are attempting break down Western unity, but hasn't West attempted to break down Russia and overthrow russian government (by supporting various democratic organizations)? And Russians actions in Ukraine may be reply on Western's strategy in Eastern Europe. It's really geopolitical and there is no fight of good and evil.

+Dmitry Lecter That's OK, your English seems absolutely fine to me :) Snyder, at least in this speech, makes an argument against one-sided perceptions. Whether American or Russian, he's saying that if someone intentionally views (and shows) the world from a single perspective, it will lead to the truth being left out. I don't think this, or the way he delivers it, has anything to do with American exceptionalism (which, as an American, I agree is a horrible, horrible thing). Now, to make something clear: I'm sure there are pro-democracy NGOs in Russia funded by the US. I'm also sure there are many who (officially or not) are an opposition to Putin. But you have to acknowledge that there are also patriotic, smart Russians, in Russia, who believe in democracy and will work for it ( either in a pro-dem NGO or some other way). And I find it highly unlikely (and, as of yet, unproven) that the only reason american civil society organizations fund Russian civil society organizations is to be politically active. Quite often the reason they do it is because they want better research from the region or because they genuinely feel that their activities help people regardless of their nationality. American civil society is not the same as our government - it's important that you respect that. And still, my point stands: having been harmed in the past (and I agree that NATO expanded too fast, etc) doesn't mean you should disregard all rules and norms today. The same way you don't have to be fascist and nazi to support a Ukrainian state, you don't have to be Russian to recognize that Russia was left to rot for the last 20-25 years. It's ok to have strong reactions against Western pressure, but it's not OK to start a bloody land war without taking any responsibility. It's dishonest. There are people in the west who respect and admire Russia, but Putin & co are losing their support incredibly fast. And they're doing so while harming Russians, too. I think this is why so many in the west simply can't understand the Russian point of view in this: our traditions tell us that the nation isn't the same as its leader and that being critical of power is a good thing. Putin is telling Russians never to question him and to equate Russia, Russians, and himself. And when you say geopolitics, it makes it seem like there's no Ukraine to talk about - only Russia and America. And this is exactly what's wrong with this kind of talk, as Snyder says in his lecture. I think that's harmful.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism is classic propaganda tactic. russians always begin like this: "You say we kill people, but what about you?" it's very childish but it works, beware

"How the hell can you have a conversation..." easily. you just have to make your point without "what about you?" that's quite obvious that when you say "there is western propaganda too" you in no way deny anything snyder said. Just because there is nothing you can say but "what about you?"

true word

I think towards the end of this talk I must’ve dozed but otherwise I found it extremely interesting !!! In part this history was mentioned in part of my world history class I had in high school I always did hear about the (bread basket)

Well, maybe because he a historian not a politician ;)

When he started to talk about 2014 he made no reference around American interference in the 2014 uprising against the then elected leader , I reference Victoria Nuland conversation with the American ambassador. Surely this is a historical fact that a historian should not forget. How can anyone take this historian seriously , or be suspicious of his other claims when this historical fact had not been mentioned.

Also, when he mentions the EU, is it also not a historical fact that the EU was an American concept engineered by the CIA. Not mentioned by this Historian.

Also why the name of the UA capital is named in not native state language - Kyiv?

Surghenko Andrey Senator McCane would know, he use to like to give long speaches from central tribune during Maidan.

Surghenko Andrey You have a point. However, what name should Americans use in their discussions of Austria or Bavaria. Should it be Vienna, or Wien? Munich, or Munchen (with U-umlaut)?

csenuber I think it was bread what Nuland was passing around: watch on you tube : "Victoria Nuland gives food for demonstration people in Ukraine"

1) that is why russia started war? 2) what? 3) are you serious? cookies bother you that much? 4) so what? 5) what again? 6) thtat's a lie. there were far less victims first of all, and then the case is so unsure that we cant realy tell what was the reason of those people deaths and what caused fire. on the other hand we have house of trade unions in kyiv with wounded protesters burned alive by the riot police during the days of maidan.

he's a propagandist. in short.

Alex Istinspring you are zombie, in short

You're delusional idiot. In short.

Alex Istinspring Once again, I am writing in response to Cadet Alex Istinspring's expositions, and once again, I merely wish to point out that Tartuffism has nothing to do with Fabianism. But first, I'm going to jump ahead a bit and talk in general terms about how Alex could use some etiquette lessons. Then, I'll back up and fill in some of the details. Okay, so to start with the general stuff, I have a scientist's respect for objective truth. That's why I'm telling you that Alex is malevolent, disreputable, and balmy and shows no inclination to change. Do I blame society for this? No, I blame Alex. He maintains that he values our perspectives. That's not just a lie but is actually the exact opposite of the truth-and Alex knows it. Why is Alex deliberately turning the truth on its head like that? This can be answered most easily by stating that Alex's paroxysms are more than just despicable. They're a revolt against nature.To quote the prophet Isaiah, “Woe to ye who flout all of society's rules”. By refusing to act, by refusing to stand up and fight for our heritage, traditions, and values, we are giving Alex the power to restructure the social, political, and economic relationships that exist throughout our entire society. He's a model of wanton sleaze, a perfect picture of ingratitude, a paradigm of recidivism. As such, Alex is reluctant to resolve problems. He always just looks the other way and hopes no one will notice that if this letter did nothing else but serve as a beacon of truth, it would be worthy of reading by all right-thinking people. However, this letter's role is much greater than just to shed the light of truth on the evil that is Alex. If Alex's self-deceiving slurs became more widespread, it would spell the ruination of this country.Would we, as thinking people, believe swindlers who tried to tell us we're all heartless? I say “no.” I appreciate feedback and other people's views on subjects. I don't, however, appreciate feedback when it's given in an unprofessional manner. In Alex's limited horizon he himself is the important object. As a sequence to this self-conceit, he imagines that the only way to expand one's mind is with drugs-or maybe even chocolate. We therefore need to explain to him that his opinions raise a number of brow-furrowing questions. I'm referring to questions such as, “What is his secret agenda?” It's questions like that that surely get people thinking about how Alex's factotums very much belong to an intellectual closed shop. They refuse to entertain the possibility that if we let Alex sow the seeds of terrorism we'll be reaping the crop for quite a long time.I've observed at least one of Alex's devotees calling for a return to that which wasn't particularly good in the first place. This is absolutely indicative of the unprofessional, ungracious, and unacceptable behavior that is so endemic to Alex's junta. Dadaism is a kind of prison. It is also, paradoxically, a haven. It is at once confining and empowering. And in the absence of alternative havens, Dadaism will for many of Alex's understrappers continue to be a source of comfort, something to free them from having to confront the fact that I, for one, have seen numerous lethargic, stentorian used-car salesmen effectuate the downfall of all that is decent and civilized. What's sad is that Alex tolerates (relishes?) this flagrant violation of democratic principles and the rule of law. That just goes to show that in the midst of our mighty struggle to provide an atmosphere of mutual respect, free from Bulverism, materialism, and all other forms of prejudice and intolerance, I have seen too many people stand on the sidelines and mouth pious irrelevancies and sanctimonious trivialities. I have watched too many people accept without challenge Alex's crotchety, cynical claim that he's merely trying to make this world a better place in which to live. And I have observed too many people fail to realize that I find it necessary, if I am to meet my reader on something like a common ground of understanding, to point out that you may be worried that Alex will plunge us into the vortex of militarism within a short period of time. If so, then I share your misgivings. But let's not worry about that now. Instead, let's discuss my observation that Alex has planted his janissaries everywhere. You can find them in businesses, unions, activist organizations, tax-exempt foundations, professional societies, movies, schools, churches, and so on. Not only does this subversive approach enhance Alex's ability to force women to live by restrictive standards not applicable to men, but it also provides irrefutable evidence that he does not tolerate any view that differs from his own. Rather, Alex discredits and discards those people who contradict him along with the ideas that they represent.Before you know it, Alex will find a country in the midst of a civil war, install a ramshackle provisional government, and instruct that government to force us to tailor our crusades just to suit his crass whims. Sounds pretty subversive, doesn't it? But is it any more so than Alex's immature treacheries? One might conclude that he spews lies as easily as a squid squirts ink. Alternatively, one might conclude that one task that rests on all of our shoulders is to reveal some shocking facts about his complaints. In either case, I am truly at a loss for words when he asserts that a book's value to the reader is somehow influenced by the color of the author's skin. He can't possibly be serious. I suspect that the real story here is that I'm not in the habit of giving advice to Alex's bilious worshippers. However, there's always a first time: You guys should stop advocating fatalistic acceptance of a duplicitous new world order. I, not being one of the many irascible, gruesome stumblebums of this world, admit I don't have much confidence that they'll follow that advice, but it's important to make it known that there are some basic biological realities of the world in which we live. These realities are doubtless regrettable, but they are unalterable. If Alex finds them intolerable and unthinkable, the only thing that I can suggest is that he try to flag down a flying saucer and take passage for some other solar system, possibly one in which the residents are oblivious to the fact that Alex and his conveniently bribed allies have been embarking on wholesale torture and slaughter of innocent civilians. As bad as that is, it represents only the thin end of the wedge. Sometime soon, Alex will likely insult my intelligence. Now that you've read my entire letter, I hope you've concluded that my plan to challenge Cadet Alex Istinspring's victim-blaming ideology is deserving of serious consideration. IN SHORT

Are you imply i would read this chunk of bullshit? What a pathetic hope.

Ukraine didn’t exist until Russian revolution. Kiev was a capital city of Russia, then it has been moved to Moscow. Krim was Turkish land and when Russians has won the war the krim became a part of Russia. It’s stated that if krim is not a part of Russia it will return under the turkey. This man is not a good historian Russia ecsisted before 1200 , Check how old is Novgorod !!!

You should stop watching RT and wake up. Crimea was devasted after WWII and Ukraine became liable to rebuild it. In 1991 Jelzin, (i guess) Kutcha and Lukachenko hand in hand walked in to Gorbachev to proclaim independancy of the 3 states, in 1994 Russia again guaranteed Ukrainian sovereignty. But, before all, the Ukrainians - including the russian speakers - fight like hell against the invaders. From my perspektive, there is no way somebody might be willing to fight and/or die for a handful of dollars (or rubles). On Feb 24, the Ukrainians - the vast majority including the russian speakers - voted clearly against Russia.

@@wolfgangengel7786 I don’t watch RT, or any other TV programs or news. There are more reliable sources to understand what is happening in Ukraine. What kind of role has played Victoria Nuland during the maidan … Who is Kolomoysky? Kolomoysky +Zelenski + Hunter Biden? Where are all money (sent to Ukraine)going ? Why all the military equipment is sold on the black market by Ukrainian military forces. Don’t forget that holocaust 6 mln Jews Died . Bandera was Nazi collaborator of Hitler. You don’t have to trust anyone, just do your research. Please check how many polish and Jews were killed by bandera. Whole Soviet Union has contributed to the reconstruction of Soviet Union. Land lease has been paid by Russia, after Soviet Union broke up. 26 millions of Soviet people has died in WWII. When I say Soviet I mean more than 150 ethnicities/nationalities Not just Russians and Ukrainians

@@firuzaabdullaeva2706 I admit that I am not a historian, but at least I know sth about the recent history of the last century and I believe that has a paramount significance to understand the reasons behind this conflict and who really triggers it. The Collective West has been waging bloody wars either directly or by proxy. Nobody in the west is interested in peace treaty with Russia and the only period when the West was happy with was in the Yeltsin era. They were so happy that they were sucking, robbing and deindustralising Russia.

@@alibazzin Absolutely agree with you

I'm surprised that Solzhenitsyn would have said something like that. Could you cite the source or provide a link?

the "democratically elected president" was overthrown by the ukranians, not the fucking CIA.

lots of letters to copy russian troll stories and basically say: blah

Talk about boring, that was a lot of schizo waffle right there. Muh CIA. 🤡 CIA Jews somehow invented Ukrainian national consciousness. Muh based Christian civilisation in the country 🇷🇺 with more abortions than almost anywhere else 🤡🤡🤡

Project Much?

He was impeached because he stood in the way of starting new wars

They might be speaking out of their emotions but at least they are real while doing so, this two bit "professor" might have been paid by the zionist which is pretty common in USA these days.

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Ryan F you know the funny part is for some doesn't even need it extra education to know what's going on around and the problem is this professor piece of fucking shit liar everything he build up he build up specific there to represent Western review on what they did in Ukraine make sure he hide everything he could so he put everything upside down from real two fiction and 100000 peoples who doesn't have a Jil education believe that bullshit in the breath with no doubt in his credibility but I know what's really happening there I see in my eyes and not just in the little circle but I've see all the details in government how many people from United States pressured Unico Village to do what he did to make sure he fails he stayed two nationalistic fascist groups who takes the power in Ukraine and people like you have no fucking idea you just believe that piece of shit on the stage congratulation

@Oleg Pustovoy, so many words and all value judgments

because it doesnt fit his anglocentric view of the world

because European settlers came to America, which was not called by this name at that time.

Also, Western powers like France, Poland, Germany, Britain and the US have all invaded Russia. The get easily spooked, as one prof. puts its.

it's called the Unipolar world with US as a "benign hegemon"

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I couldn't agree more! One always reads that the Mongols, Turks, Soviets "reached the gates of Vienna". Fine, but what about the gates of Sofia? Or Cracow?

Well put! I stopped listening after 10 mins. I figured this guy was just dishing out propaganda since most his historical accounts were inaccurate.

Northern, western, southern, eastern Europe are all common terms in English.

thing is that the only way russia will succeed in destroying EU and USA is by launching nukes. In any other case - all put 9 to 1 , that russia will fail as a Country. The only way for it to survive is to back up and start playing by the rules.

Wu Tang Ghostface Killah There is no universe in which launching nukes will save Russia. They might as well blow their own brains out. This would be my personal solution, because you will not want to experience what will happen next. Those remaining hours, days or even months you will not want.

Wu Tang Ghostface Killah How many wars starts by usa and how many by Russians?

TheTigerbomb2 you know. I fight sometimes, on the streets. I punch people right in their faces (when successful). So I know the difference beetween punching people because they harassing other people and punching people because you want to take their wallet. So, basically, fuck you. Got it?

Wu Tang Ghostface Killah No. I don't get it. So fuck you too. Next time you comment I suggest you read your comment two, three or perhaps in your case four times. Propaganda is useless if nobody understands what the fuck you are saying. Got it?

Yea watch something sometimes and when you don't see what he describes they have never done that. Excellent Argument. I also watch RT sometimes, because i do my own research. And these formats he describes exist. But far more imported the Basic Concept is used a lot. It is often that you see not in One Panel a lot of different Arguments. But that the come up with different explanations each day. The result is exactly the same.

I've watched a lot of RT and never seen those or other '5 guys' either. In fact I've seen commentators from all countries, politicians, military people etc. particularly Americans who speak their minds and are not interrupted too. Very diverse opinions from not the usual suspects.

Rather confusing and getting more so as the story is told.

Some is right most is wrong. He left out the whole russification period of Catherine and Peter And in the 2000s the EU did what hilter did and looked east for gas and grain. But it could never let Ukraine join as it would bankrupt the EU. So they meddled and funded neo naughties The maidan was hijacked by the west and armed elements until the coup. But it remained well into the new regime which brutally put it down. The west funded and forced two revolutions on the majority who voted against it.

@@davidcollishaw2771 💯

I don't like when Ukrainians share Russian propaganda. Yanukovich wasn't ousted, he ran away to Russia by himself. The Donbas region wasn't pro-Russian that much and most of the separatist leaders were Russian like Strelkov, creep like Motorolla, or crook like Pushilin. So it's clear, that majority of the anti-EU population was created under Rusian of Ukrainian pro-Russian propaganda. Their arguments against the EU are imaginary and emotional, not rational. Like legalization of gay marriages or abortion is a problem, but looking at Poland you can see how miserable it sounds.

@@JabaBolotna I'm not a fan of Western propaganda and cancel cultural. Not a fan of anyone who acts as if they lived in a Donbas region or Crimea to claim facts over the people who are actually from there. To each their own.

The only way he's even tangentially right on that part is the artificial divisions through ethnic pockets by the "winners" of the world wars, where they deliberately divided people to keep nations weak via internal conflict... and some they outright invented by force (Kosovo)

@@powkung45 Indeed. And we aren't even looking at the Middle East!

It's tailored to US narrative that turned Ukraine in a nazi state in 2014.

+Aivot Narikkaan No sun nikki kertoo kaiken jos sä uskot tähän paskanjauhantaan. Kunno idiootti.

Ukraine didn’t exists as a country until 1922 Kiev na rusi was a capital city of Russia, then it has been moved to Moscow Russia existed while before he says, Check the Russian city Novgorod’s history

What arts and architecture? Could you point me to these things? Also, the literature? I would love to study it further, as we were not taught it in Slavic Studies at UW for some reason.

ofcourse not, because it does not serve his fictional story

Why would he? Even if it was relevant (and it's not) nazism is more popular in Russia then Ukraine

@@NegruRW You can easily assume that Putin is dishonest or unfrank when he says that he fights nazis in Ukraine. You might treat those accusations as primitive pretexts for a military intervention and pay no attention to them. However ,then you will lose any chance to understand the massive support Putin enjoys among Russians. It is not very probable they are all like Putin, notoric liars or idiots. So without some reference to Bandera and what he did and what he instigated and how he ended and how he is excused and honored today you cannot depict a complete picture of Ukraine and Russia in this Russian-Ukrainian war.

@@NegruRW History doesn’t teach Soviet Union has lost 26 millions of human lives in WW II Holocaust-6 million of Jews Jews killed by Ukrainians , polish killed by Ukrainian Nazi. Who was the leader of Ukrainian Nazi? Bandera ! What was bandera’s slogan? “Slava Ukraine” - geroiam slava How many people supporting Ukraine yelling “slava Ukraine “? Do they know that is the Nazi slogan ? Russian people remembers how many lives have been lost in WWII

@@firuzaabdullaeva2706 Most of the Jews killed in Ukraine were Soviet Citizens.

When your land has belonged to just about everyone at one point in time, ever since the nation-state has superceded the city-state model, the fairest representation of Ukraine would be one of tribes occupying a land

He's explaining them now. It's because Putin is evil, according to him and we expected him to behave rationally. We were too kind to Putin. He's a joke. How do morons like that become professors? Give lectures? Teach others?

its only bots or some telegram channel thing. as usual. its funny until your real friends start acting and copy these stories.

lol, don't listen this imbecile. If you want to know history better to read wiki instead of take this propagandist clown seriously. And a LOT, a LOT are so dumb that can't even check the facts this "historian" spreading in a way Goebbels could be proud.

Alex Istinspring, and your arguments are ... ? If anything you just proved his point!

SheltaPavee can not into wikipedia?

***** Nice try. That is exactly what the guy just lecrured us about. "this man lies"? "yes I do, but EVERYBODY does that". Thing is that it is NOT TRUE.

Jc40k Russian fantasy? Hard to judge the russians so harshly when the US is the head of the sanctions, sending equipment to the Ukranian military in april www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/05/us-sending-advisers-gear-to-ukraine-/10046845/, then further increasing it in November www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/21/us-ukraine-crisis-usa-exclusive-idUSKCN0J426U20141121 and with recently leaked documents shows that it's a lot more aid and not only "non-lethal" than officially stated. (although newly leaked documents need to be confirmed before jumping to conclusions) cyber-berkut.org/en/ and all of that is just the tip of the iceberg. People need to wake up and realize that there is no "good" guy vs "bad" guy here and start opening their eyes beyond mainstream media. The propoganda from both sides is horrifying.

DalianDK Well look at that - more "non-lethal aid" in the form of 100 tanks www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/2/us-army-sending-100-tanks-eastern-europe-deter-rus/

DalianDK are u here to spread lies or you are just inattentive? I mean the link with the tanks. Tanks were sent to enforce NATO not Ukrainian military. Reagrding mentioning "US interest" wasn't it to much for one lecture? And russias interests are kind of obvious, with all that tanks and missile systems (thousands of them) and occupied territories (Crimea). So do you think couple of US military advisers and some non-lethal weapons is symmetrical? BTW sending advisers and non lethal weapons is LEGAL and invading territories and supporting terrorism - is not. PS. I'm not going to argue on US middle east activities since I do not know the background, but in this case of Ukrane I do very good, since I live here.

First of all I would like to offer you my sympathy and I hope that the conflict in your country will be soon resolved in a peaceful manner. Sometimes people in the middle of the conflict are the most blinded ones by the chaos and confusion that ensues with these events. Especially in these times where wars have become so hidden from the public, it is hard to see through propoganda (coming from both sides) and truly see what activities are being undertaken in the hidden light (of both sides). Time plays no role until both sides to an argument have been fairly and objectively presented. Imagine a lecture on i.e. fast-food which only presents the good nutritional value of fast-food, the low cost of producing it, how many people it can feed, how easy and promptly obtainable it is etc... and then completely leave out all the negative aspects. That's what I feel like this lecture was - one-sided! You say state-supported terrorism is a bad thing, well, I would recommend you to do some research on these saviors of yours before you put all your faith in them. www.alternet.org/world/35-countries-where-us-has-supported-fascists-druglords-and-terrorists

Right now Putin and Biden are going eyeball-to-eyeball and while watching this ridiculous propaganda lecture I have to shake my head. The truth, the reality of Ukraine et al can be found in the excellent YT post of September 2017, a lecture: "Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? featuring John Mearsheimer, the University of Chicago R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor in Political Science and Co-director of the Program on International Security Policy at the University of Chicago.

+mrrightnow101 Only for idiots, yes. For anyone with historical and geopolitical knowledge he is a charlatan and U.S state department propagandist.

+mrrightnow101 the speech might be excellent in terms of voice, phrases used, comfortable tempo, pitch, rhythm - but it is very controversial in terms of say it factage. Vikings came to Kiev from the now-Russian cities in the north. They mixed with the local Slavic tribes before getting to Kiev, to the now-Ukrainian territories. History of Rus has started long before getting to Kiev, modern Russia has the same rights to call itself Rus. And it is only one of the faults of the speaker in the video.

This is anything but accurate .

I cannot imagine why you got shocked by the accuracy if you are already in position to judge that is accurate..

Exactly my thoughts as I have stated above. Why do Americans always need God on their side? I f there was an interventionist God it would have banished them from our planet long ago to give peace a chance. When Ghandi was asked what he thought of Western Civilisation he said "it would be a good idea". By the way the oldest living culture is that of Australian Aborigines.

The US is old? Who is this man trying to fool gullible Americans. I have heard enough of this nonsense.

True - This is a NED/CIA neo con prof.

The USA is a very divided country. Freedom and liberty were destroyed by President Thomas Woodrow Wilson in 1913.

@Ya Boi James I was writing in the context of civilizational cultures rather than states which can be seen as too momentary in comparison. Where did "feelings" come into this discussion. I seem to have hurt yours.

Right now Putin and Biden are going eyeball-to-eyeball and while watching this ridiculous propaganda lecture I have to shake my head. Professor Snyder has created a western narrative and it does not line up with the facts as I have witnessed them over the past decade and the past half century. He is so full of himself that I keep thinking that he will slowly rise up from the lectern and float on out into the hallway, his rapt ignorant audience gleefully following his nauseating voice. In the future I will avoid Timothy Snyder like the Covid. The truth, the reality of Ukraine et al can be found in the excellent YT post of September 2017, a lecture: "Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? featuring John Mearsheimer, the University of Chicago R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor in Political Science and Co-director of the Program on International Security Policy at the University of Chicago.

Nice try, Mr. Putin! I financed fucking Maidan, you moron. I took my salary, bought some food and other stuf (like gasoline and oil, haha) and brought it there. And same did like 100 000 of people from all the country. it is CIVIL SOCIETY, but you fucking propaganda bot came here to deny it. "Why is the Ukrainian artillery bombarding civilians in Donetsk" - just portion of bullshit which circulates ONLY in russian-baked media. Human rights Watch DENIED its false report about usage of claster ammunition. You know how do detect putin troll? They all use OBSOLETE information, from their manuals.

Wu Tang Ghostface Killah +1 on all points.

hahaha all these old bots here. pretty funny.

Yup

hahaha you sir just made yourself and all those upvotes a total fool.

@Jon Little You remember the attention span of some people? Add in some distractions, and it IS FORGOTTEN fast.

@@powder1334 The fool who jumped on upvotes is definitly Propaganda-driven. FOOL.

No mention of made-up Russian nonsense? He did mention those lies exist. And you'll not mention Bucha and Irpin - was that the CIA too?

Would be helpful

If you are going to make that claim, you must take the time, at least a few paragraphs to point by point, substantiate your claim . . . please, I am interested . . .

@@danielschulman4909 , he is a russian propagandist that is going to claim that Kyiv somehow was a russian city - way before russia didn't even exist!

Another BOT?

"reality" according to lying bunker midget, Putler himself! ;-)

Well said.

Make it an old state then, which is true. And stop whining! Force to Ukraine! 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

He makes a lot of weird assertions, and suggesting America is an old nation in comparison to the redrawn European borders of the 20th century is silly, America and Canada were tiny fragments of what they became over those hundreds of years.... but I disagree with your assertion that it was based on ethnic cleansing, the vast majority was empty, and the indigenous people let them take the land for the most part, having a different conceptualization of land

Or the fact that Donbas and Crimea are basically Russia & no longer have any say in Ukrainian government. (Only the US does, but that's beside the point.)

I've met dozense of refugees from Donbas who talked about the neobolshevik degeneracy happening there and were forced to flee. It's "basically Russian" since the moskals finished off the ethnic cleansing projects of Stalin. You probably think Königsberg is ancient Russian territory too.

@@ClamMan1989 Russians built those cities and have been there since the 1700s. There are agrarian Ukrainians there too, and they are, actually, the majority. No one disputes that. If a population is the majority, it obviously has NOT been "ethnically cleansed." Though Ukrainians are fleeing now. I mean, how stupid does a person have to be to argue that the minority "ethnically cleansed" the majority? Not to mention, we are all intermixed at this point. My mother is from Kherson. I think that people who use ethnic slurs pejoratively are truly revolting, by the way.

@@williamgibson1761 Nuland. Head honcho of the Nuland-Kagan political maffia and the gauleiter in Ukraine of the Empire of Lies.

wow, look at all the rusian BOTs - are you getting paid per letter, or per word? rusciasts!

An NED/CIA chump!

Not true! Ukraine would have been independent for a long time but Stalin had other ideas. It was independent after the Russian revolution of 1917 or so until over ran by Stalin’s USSR

@@jfryer485 Ukraine didn’t exist until 22 January 1918 Ukraina -okraina literally means on the end of…

@@jfryer485 Artificial Soviet Republic of Ukraine was created by Bolsheviks in artificial boundaries in 1922, it was one of the Soviet Socialist Republics, it was an integral part of the Soviet Union, with centralized system of management and State Governmental Planning. Since the time of Russian Empire, the Southern Governorates of Russia, Donbass, the industrial hub of Empire, ( in 1922 included by Bolsheviks in republic Ukraine ) these Southern territories of Russian Empire were intensely developed, influenced by location, climate, proximity to the Black Sea with its ports and cities built by Russia, long before Bolsheviks created Ukraine. Before the Soviet Ukraine emerged "by the virtue" of Bolsheviks, the short lived "Ukrainian People's Republic" was proclaimed originally. Read "New York Times", 1918. article "Dismembered Russia- Some of the Fragments" - briefly about Collapse of Russian Empire and New Nations on its remnants, "New Nation - Ukraine", as a fragment of Russian Empire after the Revolution. Some important facts about this "New Nation - Ukraine" within 1917 - 1921: There were endless "Military conflicts between different governmental, political and military forces: Ukrainian nationalists, anarchists, Bolsheviks, the forces of Germany and Austria-Hungary, the White Russian Volunteer Army, and Second Polish Republic forces. The Allied forces of Romania and France also became involved. The struggle lasted from February 1917 to November 1921 and resulted in the division of Ukraine between the Bolshevik Ukrainian SSR, Poland, Romania, Chechoslovakiа. The conflict is frequently viewed as one within the framework of the Southern Front of the Russian Civil War of 1917-1922, as well as the closing stage of the Eastern Front of the First World War of 1914-1918." Wikipedia English provides reliable data with references and external links..

@@larisasayenko1604 Yes, so basically you agree that there has been Ukraine as a country before its recent declaration as an independendent nation over thirty years ago. Last time it got swallowed up by USSR agression. This time it is being swallowed up by Russia in the power of a Russian criminal with no right to rule Russia let alone Ukraine. In fact in light of it earlier experience it had a guarantee of respect and safety from Yeltsin, which has been dishonoured several times, 2004, 2014 and now 2022 by Putin. After the first World War the maps were changed a lot. Today we live in a world where International Law respects sovereign nations. This means the situation of the war between Ukraine and Russia is serious not just for the 15 million displaced and deported Ukrainian families but involves the whole world once more. Putin has the chance to withdraw from all occupied Ukraine territory or most likely inflict more horrors on the modern world.

@@jfryer485 it was only proclaimed as a New Nation, but it was not capable to function to establish itself as an Independent State, it was a time of War, every new coming day there was a new ruling government and the new political power in Kiev, it was a failed State from the beginning it was swallowed not but Stalin but by the chaos, disarray and disorder, wich followed absolutely logically and naturally by collapse and disintegration, and it was split between Poland, Checkoslovakia and Romania, it was the territory of the Russian Empire, and in absolutely natural way certain part stayed with the Motherland Russia. As a Ukrainian Soviet Republic. As an integral part of the Soviet Union. Neither Poland nor Romania or Checkoslovakia, they did not provide any kind of autonomy to the fragments of this "New Nation" which became newly appropriated parts of their States. And only in the Red Russian Empire in the Soviet Union Ukraine get status of Republic in 1922, And thus, again: "Until the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, Ukraine had never been an independent state." Ever " Borderland: A Journey Through The History Of Ukraine".1999

Naive person you are

His speech is working only for non-educated people cause any professional historian can't stand the amount of factual historical mistakes he made

@@Mahamataje Hear! Hear!

@@Mahamataje May I ask then what are your credentials? And to how many professional historians have you talked? Depending an the answer I'll ask some more questions

@@NegruRW Credentials? You mean paper credentials from ivy league universities, positions in think tanks, experience in governance. Many with such are the worst people we know - Bill and Hillary Clinton, Mike Pompeo Madeleine Albright, Alan Greenspan, Donald Rumsfeld. Compare to Nelson Mandela, convicted subversive and rebel; Nicolas Maduro, bus driver, Malcolm X reformed criminal who brought more progressive enlightenment in this world that is leading to the collapse of the military - capital - imperialist order. What are your credentials?

they seized and blockaded the Ukrainians from acting in their own sovereign territory. Putin focuses on how that the number of Russian troops in Crimea was legal under their agreement however he rationalizes the illegal actions they took by calling the entire Ukrainian government illegitimate. Even if that were true that doesn't give Russia the right to physically interfere in Ukrainian sovereignty.

I don't care what Putin thinks. What I want to know how is there NO resistance if Crimeans don't want Russia there. If you lose a place where you have the support of the local population AND 20,000 regular army troops on your side shit.... Even the French put up more resistance to the Germans lol

@@ilyas4161 You are right. For me it has to do with the fact is demographics of culture and national allegiance. Crimea is Russian and so too the Donbas. America's coup precipitated a coup and now Ukraine is in the midst of a civil war. Sevastapol and Crimea are Russian and held referendum to realign with Russia. Donbas and another region want no part of Ukrainian rule over them and are now fighting to become either independent or aligned with Russia. Right now Putin and Biden are going eyeball-to-eyeball and while watching this ridiculous propaganda lecture I have to shake my head. Professor Snyder has created a western narrative and it does not line up with the facts as I have witnessed them over the past decade and the past half century. He is so full of himself that I keep thinking that he will slowly rise up from the lectern and float on out into the hallway, his rapt ignorant audience gleefully following his nauseating voice. In the future I will avoid Timothy Snyder like the Covid. The truth, the reality of Ukraine et al can be found in the excellent YT post of September 2017, a lecture: "Why is Ukraine the West's Fault? featuring John Mearsheimer, the University of Chicago R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor in Political Science and Co-director of the Program on International Security Policy at the University of Chicago.

@Jon Little I think you're right. But unfortunately for the Romantics - all of us - propaganda only trumps doctrines when we refer to doctrines that do not underlie force. The USA give names to things, after those who invent it, Monroe, one example. Russians are more closed, they are just honest and face-to-face, and say what they admit, and what they don't admit. If Ukraine was located in Panama, or in Cuba, and it crossed his mind to "put-Chinese-or-Russian-missiles-at-the-USA-door"... he he he... cabum for sure, nuclear, if necessary, no doubt.

@Jon Little He he he ... folks are not states. Try to say to mongols (in 1245), they where illegals, or immoral, or criminals. Powers (and Super Powers), are not good company. Mexico is comprehensive to that. The solution for people (not for country's) is change geography, go to another place. In Mexico case great number of Mexicans (and a great number of south american's), do that. If Ukrainians don't like geography, they have no more rights, than Panamanians, Nicaraguans, and so on.

@Jon Little Wrong. Who go out of Minsk was Ukraine. Who sign in reserve, was Ukraine. And let me say, here, I'm not war adept. Not of Russia, not of Ukraine. My north is, Russia is a great power. I understand that loud and clear (is not my wish, is the reality I see). And Ukraine is going to be smashed down, erased, USA don't care. This war, is not Yours war. You don't need to bee killed in USA interests name. This is my north. Not mooch Ukrainians.

@Jon Little Try it. he he he

Watch video "Ukraine War: Made in Switzerland" on channel "Giureh" and the its video on Putin the Black Prince.

I´m German living in Berlin. Here´s my E-Mail my friend: st.boehme@gmx.de And: My english is quite poor... And: I´m writing with my real name... Who are you?

Stefan Böhme Why did you think Wu Tang Ghostface Killah's comment was aimed at you? "The lady doth protest too much, methinks", eh? ;)

Stefan Böhme I have no problem with you being German. I never used my real name in the internet. and I'm not going to. i live in Kyiv, Ukraine. Still thousands of russian trolls on payroll are in the internet. It not some kind of paranoid fantasie, there were some emailing leaked from people who are organizing this, they are making special manuals of how to do it. Basically it is a mix of propaganda cliches and classical "trolling". People are paid "by comment" for doing this. PS; My German is definitely worse than your English.

"Still thousands of russian trolls on payroll are in the internet." May be, may not be. Have you any prove or sources?

@@stefanboehme3398 Are you still in doubt? Es gibt unzählige Berichte darüber.

Slight correction here, mister "know it all" - A. Nevsky was fighting on the side of Mongols!

"We will aid Ukraine, so, we fight Russia there, not here."- Adam Schiff. 2020. Geo politics for dummies

@@Btrutaltruth Didn't Adam Schiff (and others?) say that in 2017? Perhaps he keeps repeating it. I don't see/hear this ever on MSM.

@@dennisa946 Could be as they planned this war for decades.. Kissinger was saying in early 90s that their biggest achievment will be war between two slavic nations of Russia and Ukraine.

They found Viking burial sites there on the BBC doc I saw.

+Topcat Exactly. *It is called history falsification.* Snyder the liar is a U.S state department propagandist on subject of Ukraine.

CD Anon......They will go to great lengths to cover the truth. Totally agree with your statement Anon.....

Topcat Amen for having intelligence +1. This sham artist and a liar is incredibly popular in Poland and the Baltic states where pro-Nazi, anti-Jewish and anti-Soviet internal policy of historical revisionism has been the norm since break of USSR. So much so that he has been awarded from two of the Baltic states their highest medal award! He is also one of those people who have simply added their fantasies Ukrainian history which did not exist before in any documented historical facts. PS. I have a map from 1987, a study done in slightly earlier showing Russia's ethnic composition and i do not see the word "Ukraine" or "Ukrainian" ANYWHERE on that map. I see only the word: "Petit Russes" where modern geographical Ukraine exists, though its missing the "Grand Russes" lands given by Bolsheviks. 3rd ethnic group is "Blanc Russes". Plus many many other non-Russian ethnic groups. Damn, even the ESTONIANS are shown there, but no mythical "Ukrainians".

Ukrainian survive genocide ?? You have been swallowing too much western propaganda straight down without thinking, or you have to bee azov or fahrright person in Ukraine. Are you aware of Ukrainian military azov killing thousands of Russian speak citizens in Ukraine since 2014, are you aware of Zelinsky forced Russian speak children speak Ukrainian in schools `? Are you aware of US trained Ukrainian military azov same years as Ukrainian military azov working with genocide on russian speak citizens 8 years before Russia went in ? Are you aware of US helped ukrainian military azov bombing russian speak regions in Ukraine with drones Desember 2021 ? Are you aware of Billionaire zelensky kicked out 11 parties in Ukrainian Parlament couple month ago, only keeps fahrright nazzis ? ZelinUSpuppet fighting for democratic Ukraine ? Western media totally silent, dont mention his best friend corrupt Obligarch Kolomoyski who funded his presiden campaign, missing billions from Ukraine Bank. Suddenly Zelinsky got super rich, not strange US have a tight grip around Zelinsky ball´s. Everybody see he is under US command. US training azov, reminding me of middle east wars. Zelinsky are only a false western media made hero, truth about Ukraine are spreading out. Russia had to denazifie Ukraine, genocide had to stop. Western media closed their eyes for 8 years because US wanted to job in Ukraine undisturbed.

Worst now, are Ukrainian military does not care about Russian speak citizens. We all see how Ukrainian military uses civilians as human shield in every village and city, Azovstaal and azot factory showed all how they using civilians as human shield. They even tried to exchange hostages for food, just unbelievable. We all see military hides in every city among civilians, see Odessa and Kyiv. Not any Ukrainian military azov who building up any defence system around citys to protect their citizens or infrastructure, they building military bases inside appartements and public buildings. Western mainstream media support it, they blame Russia for killing civilians, Zelinsky know all military are legit target, still he hides his military azov behind civilians. Because western mainstream media helping Zelinsky crying for more weapons and money, because it Russias fault he are hiding his military behind civilians. Unbelievable to witnesses this insanity, never seen so much lies ever in media.

@@andrehunter1295 you will be surprised but half of soldiers from Asov are russian speakers.

Ukrainian language is closer to Polish than to Russian, don't spread fakes. Kyiv was a main city in Kyivan Rus only, which not Russia or Ukraine by itself but some sort of ancestors.

@@user-sl3fv8tn9u you are totally wrong i know all 3 of those languages. You definitely have no clue what you are talking about

Fully agree with you John

@@335isupra really? I know Polish, Ukrainian and Russian languages and know what I am talking about. Also science on my side - - - search about it. My native language is Ukrainian and later I learn Russian and Polish. I think that your native is Russian but you learn Ukrainian in school as state language, and later you learn Polish.

If you add to Russian Federation period of Russian Empire and USSR in that case Russia created more conflicts than USA, because USA will be significantly younger. But if you mean Russia only from 1991 in that case you are right, because Russia will be significantly younger than USA. Time as variable here play significant role

To gomey 70: I am amazed as to how you can spot Russian propaganda but are blind to the US propaganda we are fed! Amazing!

@@jubeanie2730 Too much western values will do that to a person.

This guy is very limited in his understanding of this conflict, he connects his field with assumptions and emotional statements that I can prove to be falacious without any effort. And he does not provide the complete context for the conflict in Ukraine, and even whitewashed the US meddling in Ukraine.

His lecture is propaganda :) he fooled everyone . The Obama Nuland Soros are behind the 2014 neonazi coup in Kiev.

@@tamimq5895 The history of the area is quite colorful..... Most Empires have had a foothold in the area.....

jewie mcdreidelheeb Depends on the way you categorize them. Limnguistically speaking they're Slavic, but genetically speaking Northern-Russia is indeed closest to the Finnish and Estonians, but at the same time moving south it starts to differ a lot. It also depends on how you define a Russian etc. Thus linguistically it may be easier to differentiate them.

If you talk to whoever in the world, you will soon or later find out that this person is exactly the same like you, but has different culture. We are sharing the oneness which was so systematically destroyed in and around us, that a lot of people in west still think that the wars which are on now and have been on for last two decades is a good think which is bringing "savages" the right culture and manual how to live ( while they will be sucked of their resources ).

jewie mcdreidelheeb As I just explained earlie, then genetically speaking Northwestern-Russia is actually QUITE similar to say Finland or Estonia, more than for example Latvia. I'm not saying that the whole wide Russia is the same way, it clearly is not.

Nation is quite new word and Ukrainians tried to create independent state in 1920th, but failed and was occupied by Soviets. So, first try was not so much later than others nation.