Virtual Shifting Upgrade Options for Wahoo KICKR Owners!

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If you're an existing Wahoo KICKR owner there are a number of ways you can make use of the new Virtual Shifting feature within Zwift! This video covers FOUR setups that'll allow you to get rolling with 24 smooth and quiet virtual gears! Initially this feature has been released only for the CORE with other recent models of the KICKR getting support in the very near future!
Disclaimer: The method shown to remove the Cog from the supplied freehub is technically a 'hack' and to be done at your own risk. Use the correct tools if you're going to do this.
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Video Index:
0:00 Intro
0:28 Why Virtual Shifting?
1:10 Minimal Setup
2:03 Minimal Setup With Zwift COG
3:38 All The Things!
4:05 All The Things with your own cassette.
4:40 Wrap Up
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@nicklaughton3163 2 місяці тому

“Very near future”… my v5 is looking at these videos enviously

@mikeainsworth4504 2 місяці тому

I hope so too. I have a cheap bike as a dedicated turbo setup ( Zwift doesn’t care what your actual bike is). It would be amazing if someone far cleverer than me could replicate the Zwift Play functionality in a set of dummy hoods to replace the real ones.

@pauldamian2988 2 місяці тому

@@mikeainsworth4504 me too. No brakes/cable... Integrating those into something would be cool. Allow me to remove the derailleurs!

@TroyKasper 2 місяці тому

@@pauldamian2988 I've been looking for something too. I was thinking I'd just use my old ones and remove the shifting/brake cables and leaving the hoods. The brake levers aren't really in the way.

@drcuzo 2 місяці тому

Hey Shane I love and appreciate your work. You are my go to for all things Zwift and Wahoo. I am a doctor and prescribe Zwift to lots of my patients and refer them to you for information to get started.. I’m hoping you can use your influence and ‘Kickr’ Wahoo in the arse so we dedicated Australian customers can get the equipment we want and deserve

@chawley52 2 місяці тому

Job done! Thanks so very much for this video! Immediately ordered Zwift Cog & Click Upgrade kit. The installation and firmware upgrades took less than 20 minutes, thanks to your clear examples. My bike is a 1x gravel setup, and after a very short trial of the new virtual shifting I am enjoying the close ratios and many more "cogs" than I have been used to!

@deanmarriott7068 2 місяці тому

You're a life saver! I bought the Cog and Click upgrade kit last week without realising it wouldn't fit the Kickr Core, but it was too late to cancel. I was just about to send it back but saw your vid. Just set up the Cog and Click following your advice and it works a treat! (I did the firmware upgrade a few days ago). Now I just need to stop changing gear with the normal shifters and I'll be good to go! Thank you.

@dangilmartin9458 2 місяці тому

Awesome thank you - I was about to by a new gear set to allow using both bikes on my Kickr! Just installed, no issues, loving the virtual gears, what a bonus. Brilliant, cheers!

@BAKPDL 2 місяці тому

Thanks for this update - just installed the cog on my Kickr 👍👍👍

@robertwillemsen368 2 місяці тому

I got it working! Thank you. Kickr core software update went oke. Mounting of the cog was very easy indeed. Pairing the zwift click went oke. However lost the HR on my apple tv set. Took me about 15min fidling with the settings. But it works now. First impression, shifting very good. Sound level so so. I think rhe zwift cog is a bit to big ( compared with the shimano) so you can hear the chain. But all together happy with it! Thanks for your video

@TroyKasper 2 місяці тому

I saw this when I Zwifted on Friday. It was great, loved it.

@nealm6764 2 місяці тому

That is pretty cool. I don't do zwift anymore, and as an old man I just do zone 2 riding, so it wouldn't do much for me, but if they had this 20 years ago I would have run out and bought this! Still tried to do mental so gymnastics to try to upgrade to this, but my shifting is so minimal I can't justify it. Thanks for the content Shane!

@paulh205 2 місяці тому

Thank you Shane for explaining the options, just ordered a Cog and Click from Zwift for my Kickr Core 👍

@JMCyclingVideos 2 місяці тому

Thanks for putting this video together. I didn’t want to assume I could adapt the cog to my Kickr straight out of the box and end up disappointed.

@damFr 2 місяці тому

Thanks for the news Shane, my child with 9 speed will be able to switch and me upgrading from 11 to 12 speed as well. I was waiting for it for Kickr!

@maniastrat 2 місяці тому

Thank you for answering the million dollar Q that many have asked. That being we can in fact upgrade a standard Core to the virtual shift single cog...Nice thanks!

@TheMikkster 2 місяці тому

Thank you, much needed info👍

@SimoneChiaretta 2 місяці тому

Looking forward for the FW update fir my KICKR with foldable legs. I think virtual shifting is the way to go for indoor riding and finally getting to rest the infamous “trainer difficulty” discussion

@bm4122 2 місяці тому

Thank you for the explanation as I was wondering if I use my cassette what gear in the back im supposed to be in

@dh7314 2 місяці тому

As my chainrings and cassette will need replacing soon I’ll definitely move to this. Saves the need for cassettes in future and I guess I can even change the bike to a 1x

@Jerzj 2 місяці тому

Very clear and helpful video, many thanks! 👍

@th3rush 2 місяці тому

Hacks for the win!! Great news for the Kickr owners out there

@ImranShaikh-gh2wd 2 місяці тому

Thanks - I have a kickr from a few years ago and am hoping they update it soon - just bought the zwift play controllers

@dmigz1647 2 місяці тому

Great video and perfect timing! Just today I was looking up how to do this online. I think I am going to wait for the official upgrade kit to be released by Wahoo.

@gplama 2 місяці тому

The only difference will likely be the Cog coming on the same freehub you already have.

@paulmorrison30 2 місяці тому

Ever informative 🙏🏾✊🏾👍🏾👌🏾👊🏾

@COYSMike 2 місяці тому

This is great thanks Shane. Did my first ride with virtual shifting on my Core today. Just left the cassette on for now and used the clicks. Very satisfying and responsive to use. Was a bit confused in what protocol to use as I used to use ANT+ for everything on my Win11 laptop via a dongle (my HRM is also only ANT+). Bit of jigging about meant I could use both bluetooth and ANT+, although I'm not entirely sure how I did it yet to repeat for next time!

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Ideally, pair everything over Bluetooth. At the minimum, "controllable trainer" and "controllers" over BLE (required for virtual shifting) and the others can still use ANT+.

@COYSMike 2 місяці тому

Thanks Shane. I seems I need to first pair the trainer and controller with BLE, then plug in the ANT+ stick for my HRM to pair that. I'll just look at getting a BLE HRM if this causes any issues.

@davidrowe8747 2 місяці тому

So .... with the firmware update, a Click will work on a Kickr Core without the need for the Zwift Cog? I posted this idea a few days ago (because I couldn't see any reason why not), and was told in no uncertain terms that it wouldn't!

@gplama 2 місяці тому

@@davidrowe8747 A Kickr CORE with firmware 1.3.17 onwards, ANY cassette (including the Cog), and the Click will support virtual shifting within Zwift. Whoever was providing the uncertain terms was uncertain indeed. :)

@davidrowe8747 2 місяці тому

@@gplama thanks, Shane - I knew you'd give me the answer I wanted! ;-)

@smithpauld1501 2 місяці тому

Very, very nice. I await crunchless shifting up the Bot Bank Wall with bated breath.

@bradallen8643 2 місяці тому

Nice aliteration there 😂

@davidrowe8747 2 місяці тому

Thanks for taking the time to clarify all this, Shane! Lots of "fake news" flying about UKposts and other sources over the past few days. My preference would be to use the Play controllers, but I have a flat bar (actually, a swept back alt bar similar to Jones) bike ... from everything I've seen, it's not possible to install the Play controllers on a flat bar without it being awkward. But ... glad to know that if flat bar-compatible Play controllers don't appear soon, I can always go with the Cog/Click combo!

@tariqkamil7853 2 місяці тому

Hopefully, Magene will adopt this system as well.

@TheJoePavlik 2 місяці тому

Cool, soon I can put my Rohloff bike on my kickr v5. Although I don't know where I'll put the controllers due to flat bars.

@TheSueRitchie Місяць тому

Sorted my problem getting the Zwift click to work, I didn’t know that to enable the virtual shifting you actually have to be within a ride/race/workout for the correct settings menu to appear in Zwift. The shifter pairs fine along with the other Bluetooth devices, but there’s another step to enable the shifting to work. I had to start riding then go into settings and hey presto the virtual shifting menu appears. Lovely smooth shifting now, and original cassette is still on the Kickr in case I want to use Rouvy. Wonder if Zwift will allow 3rd parties to use their shifter in the future as it’s so much better than derailleur shifting. Happy Days.

@blrun129 2 місяці тому

Great thanks, several reasons why this is brilliant

@mikergeorge 2 місяці тому

Thanks for the great content Shane… By very soon… this month? ( for Kickr move) About to order the Zwift play and wondering if I can wait a bit or whether I need them asap!

@gplama 2 місяці тому

It depends when they're ready to release the firmware. I wouldn't expect it to be more than a month.

@kovie9162 2 місяці тому

Hey Shane, great series of videos on this technology but given all the questions that people keep asking, most quite understandable and legitimate, I think it might make sense for you or others to put up a web page explaining how this works that answers all these questions. E.g. can I use a 7 speed or fixie on this, what about derailleur alignment, does it work with Di2, etc. Turns out that the technology behind this is fairly simple, being mostly done in software and using sensor feedback, and it just seems more complicated than it actually is.

@joseantoniorodriguezsanche3102 2 місяці тому

I like your question...it would be cool to be a able to fit a single speed frame on the hub (horizontal dropouts). That would make a extremely simple permanent zwift bike👍

@kovie9162 2 місяці тому

@@joseantoniorodriguezsanche3102 I don't see why it couldn't be done. Are there single speed bikes that have tensioners to make it easier to swap the rear cog for a different size one without having to add or remove chain links? This might make it easier to install it on the trainer, especially if you have multiple bikes and want to swap them.

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Somewhere like ZwiftInsider would be the place for all this information on a web page.

@PatParvum 2 місяці тому

Nice hack. Thanks.

@pauldamian2988 2 місяці тому

drat.... I just recently replaced a worn out cassette on my Zwift only bike kickr set up. I could have saved $$$... oh well... next time. Is the cog in the kit replaceable with standard cogs? Is the software adjustable for a cog with slightly different tooth count? With my dedicated bike/kickr set up I could remove the derailleurs and cables right? I already don't have any brakes or cables on it...

@poopscoop2000 2 місяці тому

Thanks

@speedysteedy759 2 місяці тому

when can we start getting the shifters here in Australia?

@kvloover 2 місяці тому

very informative, as many I was wondering the same as well :). Owning a kickr core and play controllers, I'll be adding the cog to the set :)

@tonyp4536 Місяць тому

I made the switch and as far as shifting goes that is great. kind of wish that the game made some noise to confirm that a shit occurred. Not that it fails but it is easy to mistake and hit it twice. Of course you know but also going down hill you might want multiple shifts. The gear is shown so not a deal killer. However I use Shimano and it is really noisy. I contacted customer support and after several attempts using their suggestions that then said it is normally that noisy. I said I was going back to the cog to see if that was noisy and just never paid attention and no it was really quiet. Their response was great now you have it quiet. forget that I did not just buy the clicker which would have been all I actually use now. So if you like a quiet ride well wait until they sell just the clicker and it works just fine on the cog. Sort of gets rid of the benefit if you thought you could use it on different bikes that use different cogs. But for me the sound like you are not shifted correctly was just too annoying and I live alone. If you have people in your house that would have to listen to the constant clicking well they are not going to be happy.

@joseantoniorodriguezsanche3102 2 місяці тому

Would you be able to use a simple single speed conversion kit instead of the zwift hub? Just thinking that it would allow to adjust the chain line. Thanks

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Yes.

@JouniMyllyla 2 місяці тому

Hi Shane. Thanks for this brilliant video. Do You know if this Zwift Cog usable in my Kikr V5. Don't want to buy if I'm not sure if it is ok to use in my setup.

@gplama 2 місяці тому

The hardware is compatible. You’ll have to wait for Wahoo to release an updated firmware on the Kickr V5 to support virtual shifting.

@JouniMyllyla 2 місяці тому

OK. Thank You for quick answer. Love the way You do things. Nice work. Just placed an order for it.@@gplama

@kovie9162 2 місяці тому

One other point, that perhaps belongs in a general discussion of virtual shifting outside of the specific ways to achieve it, is that the existence of virtual shifting begs the question of why bother to have manual shifting at all, even if it's virtual, and why not enable a sort of "automatic" mode where no matter what the terrain the shifting will be done automatically for you to match your desired cadence, power output or difficulty level (and thus slowing down or speeding up as would be the case in outdoor riding)? Or, you could set upper and lower limits for these so auto mode would be adjustable. I realize that this is basically ERG mode, but in ERG mode your power output doesn't need to match the terrain that you're virtually riding on, while I'm suggesting a mode where it does match it based on your desired cadence or difficulty level, if that makes sense. So, basically, an "ERG Mode" that matches the terrain, and could even be adjustable during the ride itself. It's certainly possible to do this in software so why not add it as an option? Or is there one already?

@bonesofanidol 2 місяці тому

Kind of what the Trainer Difficulty setting does. If you turn it down all the way you won't feel the hills at all, but you'll slow down and speed up based on the incline. So it's like your bike is always in the perfect gear.

@nealm6764 2 місяці тому

I like the way you are going with this, and hope it becomes a reality. No more dirty chain on your indoor bike seems well within reach now.

@kovie9162 2 місяці тому

@@bonesofanidol Interesting. But there obviously has to be some resistance on hills no matter how slow you go, because if it doesn't match what would happen on an outdoor ride then it's not realistic, but another advantage of VS whether manual or auto is that it allows you to downshift to gears that if they existed on outdoor bikes would lead to your falling sideways due to insufficient speed and stabilizing wheel rotation. But I'd prefer an actual Auto Mode in VS, with the ability to set at what point it auto-shifts or maybe the desired power output level. And maybe also the ability to select front and rear virtual gears. It can all be done in software so why not give people that option?

@jssaylor 2 місяці тому

Could you purchase a single speed cog setup with the correct spacers and 14 tooth cog as an alternative? I already have the core, and the play controllers.

@jcps6919 2 місяці тому

You dont need to do that. You can have the usual cassette, to leave the chain fixed in a cog of the cassette and to change gears virtually with the play controllers.

@rustn1717 28 днів тому

Is there an advantage to the zwift cog over any standard single speed cog? Just chain retention?

@cristiansan 2 місяці тому

you mentioned I can use JetBlack Volt? is compatible with the single cassette and the virtual shifting?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

I mentioned the freehub Zwift are sending out with the Cog is compatible with the JetBlack VOLT, not the virtual shifting (which is done in the trainer firmware).

@euthiestamos9731 2 місяці тому

Thanks for the help. Sense there are a variety of aftermarket speed sensors… I’m looking for the standard they all comply to. I have a few from Cycplus, Magene and others… and they sense and report to all other head units… hence there has to be a industry specification… Zwift denied the existence of an industry specification. That can’t be true, unless everyone is reverse engineering sensors….which is how I wound up asking you. Thanks!

@gplama 2 місяці тому

I'm not really understanding what you're after. Most trainers will report their 'flywheel speed' via ANT+ Speed, or via the Bluetooth FTMS channel. If you're after an industry specification, those are it. The speed reported is simply flywheel speed, or in the case where speed simulation is calculated based on your power input in ERG, not physical flywheel revolutions. Zwift itself is technically a 'head unit' it connects to sensors and computes your virtual speed in-game. The flywheel speed data from the trainer is irrelevant to Zwift with a smart trainer that reports power.

@Madtriboy 2 місяці тому

Where can the cog and the zwift play controllers be purchased in Australia? The zwift shop only ships to USA.

@gplama 2 місяці тому

One for Zwift/Wahoo support. We still can't get them here.

@vshawpan 2 місяці тому

@gplama how did you get one? zwift gifted or are you US based?

@rogermayo2910 2 місяці тому

Ditto re Zwift contoller players not available in Canada...

@roadkill_toronto 2 місяці тому

Wow. You found a use for the rollr. By removing the roller. 😅 Can you please find and share or create a hack for single speed? Please and thank you. The core measures 120mm. Track bikes measure 120mm. I hope its only a matter of time till someone with more money than me does it and shares it so we all know its possible.

@marccale9890 2 місяці тому

Thanks for the video...I'm using my normal cassette with the virtual gear shift and I was just using the cog at the back that provided the straightest drive - I've just heard you mention putting it on the 14 tooth cog. I'll try that, but if that's not possible, what's the impact on accuracy? Does it give inaccurate power readings, or just strange gear ratios?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

In short, just a slight offset in the virtual gear ratios. Accuracy should remain ok. (Although that is another rabbit hole…. For another day).

@marccale9890 2 місяці тому

@@gplama thanks. Great channel by the way!

@user-om9ub2xc2b 2 місяці тому

Thanks for this info Shane. Quick question: which cog on the cassette is 14 on an 11 speed one? I have the Play controllers, so I just need to wait for the firmware update and then I can virtual shift on the v6. Looking forward to it. 😊

@kovie9162 2 місяці тому

I think that it doesn't matter which chain ring or cog you're on as the software adjusts itself based on sensor readings and results in the same effective range of gears, so long as your driveline is good.

@troy45uk 2 місяці тому

The 14T cog will depend on which 11S cassette you have - easy enough to Google the different combinations for 11-28, 11-32 cassettes etc to confirm which one

@kovie9162 2 місяці тому

@@troy45uk I believe that it's not about cog size but position, so that the rear cog is the center or one of the center cogs on the cassette and makes the driveline with the closest chain ring to be as close to parallel with the frame as possible.

@technocynic 2 місяці тому

count the teeth. it's not rocket science

@chris1275cc 2 місяці тому

That's good to know, but unless you are planning on building a dedicated single speed Zwift bike and are 100% dedicated to Zwift for all time, it seems like a no brainer to just leave a cassette on there and not limit functionality with other apps/head units etc. Or am I missing something?

@markrandall4893 6 днів тому

Hey Shane, any news on if cog upgrades are likely to be available in this part of the world (Australia, NZ) for our imminent trainer season? I keep searching, but can only find northern availability.

@DFlo780 2 місяці тому

random question for ya... So I don't use zwift for indoor rides, i just use my Garmin Edge to do indoor training rides. Will the "click" pair with the edge in order to gear change on virtual rides or is this hardware only compatible with zwift for the time being? Thanks, love the content!

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Virtual shifting requires Zwift.

@petrsamek6613 2 місяці тому

What about kick core 3, could renew with thi new virtual shifting. Thx for for answer best regards petr Samek

@gplama 2 місяці тому

There was only ever one CORE. If you mean the Kickr v3, it's a no. v4 onwards will get the update.

@brianhoward6793 2 місяці тому

How do you define "recent model" KICKR? I have, what was then called just "KICKR", bought in 2019. Will that model ultimately be upgradeable ?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Coming soon to Kickr v4 (2018), v5 (2020), v6, and MOVE.

@uk-expat 2 місяці тому

Hi Shane, I must have missed it in a previous video, but what are you using to support your front wheel, the desk thingy? Thanks.

@gplama 2 місяці тому

It's the front half of the Wahoo Kickr Rollr.

@sebastianh8098 2 місяці тому

Hey Shane Where did you get the information that the Kickr V6 will also be receiving the virtual shifting upgrade in the near future? I am in the market for a second direct trainer as my wife has gotten into it heavily too, so i am thinking of getting a slightly more comfortable V6. I currently have the zwift hub with zwift play, its nice and i love virtual shifting, but it is a bit unstable during sprints and most likely less comfortable, as it does not have any side to side movement.

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Direct from Wahoo. Still no indication when it'll be released to the public firmware stream. It should/could be any day.

@alastairread9219 14 днів тому

Hey Shane, I'd be interested to know if I could get the click and virtual shifting to work on my wahoo kickr 2015. Any thoughts?

@Waldgeist2k10 2 місяці тому

Hi Shane, Is a minimalistic 1-by setup (without any shifting components) possible with the Zwift Cog? It sounds fantastic to use a Zwift setup, so simple and without anything you don't need.

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Yes, absolutely.

@MikeKolcun 2 місяці тому

Looks like lots of Bluetooth connections. Would the companion app be a requirement when using Zwift on AppleTV?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Yep. That's the best way to keep the ATV happy.

@bjoernclausen5897 Місяць тому

Does this also work with the Wahoo Kickr V5?

@jorn9288 2 місяці тому

Hey Shane, it is recommended to use the smaller front sprocket with the cog. Why do you use the large one?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Smaller will result in a more stable ERG experience, but it'll work with either. 1000W+ sprints are better in the big ring.

@alejandro.a.m 2 місяці тому

⁠@@gplamabut it’s the alignment chain properly with the big ring ?? Doesn’t do it more noise than the small ring ??

@gplama 2 місяці тому

@@alejandro.a.m It depends on the bike / chainline / etc. There's no real correct answer here. Just assumptions I won't make.

@bbmh0123 2 місяці тому

Hey Shane. Can I use / upgrade my Wahoo KICKR V6 to virtual shifting. I have the Handel bars from Zwift.

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Soon. Wahoo will need to release a firmware to support this.

@brambontje 2 місяці тому

Hi Shane I have the cog+click upgrade kit coming via a parcel forwarding service to me in Canada. Right now I run Zwift on PC with Sterzo Smart steering block alongside my Kickr Core. I've seen some posts that suggest the Sterzo doesn't work simultaneously with the Zwift Play (makes sense since that unit provides steering too) but do you know if pairing the click for shifting will still let the Sterzo function?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Not something I've attempted to pair - The Click/Play and a Stezo.

@Doktor_Al 2 місяці тому

Very near future!!! 🤤🤤🤤

@simon2225 2 місяці тому

You say recent Kickr. What is the thing that decides whether it can or can’t do this? I ask because I only have an old Kickr but do have Zwift Play and this would be worth a go

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Coming soon to: Kickr v4 (2018), v5 (2020), v6, MOVE. There's going to be some differences in exactly the features they have. I'll cover these when they're released.

@MrPsychic5 2 місяці тому

Oh no, I've got a V3 😞

@jimpeyton1459 2 місяці тому

Hi Shane. Thanks for the video. Updated firmware for Kickr Core, I have the Zwift Play controllers...opened Zwift and virtual shifting did not show up in the pairing menu. I may hve missed it in the video, what's the Wahoo firmware version that adds virtual shifting capability? 😮

@gplama 2 місяці тому

You'll need to ensure the 'Controllable' part of the trainer pairing is via Bluetooth. The others can be ANT+ if you like, but virtual shifting has to use BLE. Kickr CORE firmware 1.3.17 onwards is what you're after.

@jimpeyton1459 2 місяці тому

@@gplama be nice if I RTFM. Thanks so much for the reply. Specifically says pair trainer via Bluetooth 🙃. Got the trainer all set up and tried virtual gearing. Shifting was smooth as silk. Really eases the strain on my (twice broken) wrists. My only headache is the occasional BT dropout to the Zwift Play controllers...that's been an issue since they arrived

@gplama 2 місяці тому

@@jimpeyton1459 Keep an eye out for firmware update 1.3.0 for the Play controllers. That'll start rolling out from today onwards. The changelog is pretty thin... but I am told there are updates/fixes for some connectivity issues.

@jimpeyton1459 2 місяці тому

@@gplama UPDATE: New firmware seems to have improved dropouts for Zwift Play controllers. I really dig the virtual shifting. 😊

@bobowsinski1704 2 місяці тому

I have a wahoo kicker core. I’m using my old 7 speed aluminum bike. With the correct spacer by bike shop provided it’s been working fine for 2 years. 2 questions. Why do they not officially support 7 speed derailleurs and how do I know if my 2 year old wahoo core will support hub. I want to test before I order the new kicker core for my wife

@gplama 2 місяці тому

I've been told they didn't put 7spd on the compatibility list as most bikes/frames with 7spd didn't have the required rear spacing to be installed on the Hub/CORE (130mm minimum). If it does, you're good.

@austynhughes134 2 місяці тому

This may be a dumb question, but when using virtual shifting is there a preferred gear you should be on on your bike? Or should you just be in a comfortable gear like when you are using ERG mode? I just updated my Kickr Core and am excited to use virtual gearing, but want to make sure I am using it to its fullest potential.

@gplama 2 місяці тому

The virtual gear calculations are all based on using a 14T on the back. On the font it depends. The small ring will typically give better ERG performance/stability.

@alejandro.a.m 2 місяці тому

@@gplama small ring will give us same power than big ring in sprints ???

@overland_adventure_nz 2 місяці тому

Hi Shane How can we buy a set of Zwift Play controllers, down under in New Zealand? Do you have any idea where I can purchase a set for myself?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

You can't at the moment. This is one for Zwift support.

@overland_adventure_nz 2 місяці тому

@@gplama thanks for your reply, I’ll try Zwift again and/or I may try to have some mailed to my USA friends addresses and have them send to myself.

@TheSueRitchie 2 місяці тому

Hi Shane, I think you said the Zwift one hub is compatible with all core trainers, is that right? ours is one of the earlier core trainers. I just updated the software to the latest version. Didn’t want to order until sure. Thanks! Really helpful vid. software v 1.3.17

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Yes. All CORE trainers.

@TheSueRitchie 2 місяці тому

Afraid I’ve had no luck connecting the trainer. Just went up climb of the week on single speed! Although the click controller pairs with Zwift on the iPad there is no shifting. I have updated the iPad software it’s the latest. The kickr core software is the latest and the Zwift click also has the latest software. I’ve checked that the Bluetooth connections are all correct and they are. I have even opened the click to see if disconnecting and reconnecting the battery helps. For a fleeting moment I had “gear 12” appear on the in game screen but not managed a single shift. Could be a faulty Zwift click. Wonder how Zwift deal with returns if you have used it with what they say is incompatible??

@__marshie 2 місяці тому

Wahoo needs to distribute the cog, click and play controllers. That would supply Australia and other countries that can’t purchase them. Or they could make and sell their own!

@technocynic 2 місяці тому

how hard can it be to make small items like the hub/click kit or the play controllers available in Australia? via wahoo or even purchase from zwift us or eu shops.

@COYSMike 2 місяці тому

I suspect Wahoo not making their own is all tied into the legal agreement after the court case was settled. I expect Wahoo to sell the Zwift stuff soon though as it's a big market in Australia to be missing out on. Or Zwift to open up selling in Aus!

@JeremyDawesJezweb 2 місяці тому

100% agree

@bbmh0123 Місяць тому

Hey Shane. As I have written earlier I have a Wahoo KICKR V6. The other day I could use virtuaal shifting, but then yesterday it was not possible. do you have an explanation for it.

@gplama Місяць тому

You have to have the Kickr paired via Bluetooth and the Click and/or Play Controllers also paired. It also has to be enabled within the Zwift settings (on by default I believe).

@euthiestamos9731 2 місяці тому

When testing the Zwift hub one… while using the click… and a Garmin, Did you have any issues with speed? … Also, where can I find the communication protocol for the data packaging of speed from a speed sensor to any head unit?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Speed reported from the trainer? That’ll be over ANT+ and 1Hz to any receiver (Garmin, etc).

@euthiestamos9731 2 місяці тому

…. How is the data packaged? 12 bit and scaling..over a periodic signal… or a pulse that the Garmin uses to compute speed … like a magnet on a spoke? Is the speed packaged in a message or sent by pulse as a function of speed?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

@@euthiestamos9731 You're getting right into the technical side of things now. Best ping Wahoo or Zwift with these specific queries.

@Spyder2275 2 місяці тому

Hi Shane… if I use zwift click and play with Apple TV, will I run out of Bluetooth for other devices like HRM’s etc?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Yes. The Companion App is your best bet for pairing with the ATV.

@steve-d0 2 місяці тому

Looks like it's time to update the Volt V2 to a Kickr V6

@poopscoop2000 2 місяці тому

Hello again, apologies if I've missed this but can I use the Play AND Clicker on the same set up, so I have 2 different hand positions I can shift from? Thanks!

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Yes

@poopscoop2000 2 місяці тому

@@gplama Thanks, that's handy. I'll wait till they sell the clicker separately, hopefully. Thanks again. 👍

@ikabod8045 2 місяці тому

Mr. Shane..will it make a difference in the game play/training (erg mode) if I replace the size of the cog from 14 to 18? Thanks in advance

@gplama 2 місяці тому

It'll shift the virtual gear ratios around a little. The start-up gear calibration assumes a 14T on the back.

@ikabod8045 2 місяці тому

Would that be considered cheating?😬

@mikedaugherty53 2 місяці тому

Will this (Zwift Cog) work on a Gen 1 Wahoo Kickr? I do have the Zwift Play already.

@gplama 2 місяці тому

No. It'll physically install as shown here but there won't be any support for virtual shifting/gearing. And not likely in the future. The v4 (2018) will be the oldest model with support.

@alansarahrose 2 місяці тому

Are Wahoo planning on bringing out their own cog to adapt the kickr corr. The hack for the zwift cog looks easy but I'd feel better about using Wahoo's own version. Anything in the pipeline?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

All their version will likely be is the exact same hardware on a freehub that’s compatible. Which is exactly what people already have on their Kickrs. There’s absolutely no need for Cog to ship with a freehub other than to reduce the installation complexity.

@sccxvelo 2 місяці тому

Thanks for this I am thinking of taking my singlespeed cx bike and putting it on the trainer. With a kickr 4 or future one this will be good hack. Zwift should just sell the kit without freehub for their no longer sold trainer and easy to set up any trainer and zwift makes money for less effort/cost then before on this product.

@gplama 2 місяці тому

I think the reasoning for selling the Cog on a freehub was to simplify the conversion. 17mm open wrench or 5mm hex was all that was required.

@tylerjenicek4652 Місяць тому

I have the 2020 v5 Kickr…not the kickr core…is it still compatible?

@barrycorney3665 2 місяці тому

Better getting a single speed conversion kit with 14T cog and the spacers, plus a chain tensioner, and a cheap set of cranks with a chainring then dial in that chainline for smooth and quiet....

@buckfiftyplustax 2 місяці тому

How is the zwift cog with sram flattop chains since the roller diameter is different from 11 spd chains? Thanks!

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Less than optimal. It'll still work, but it'll be causing premature chain wear on an AXS flattop chain over time.

@WowRixter 2 місяці тому

I wonder if the API for the Zwift cog is open for other manufacturers to access?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Apparently it is, or will be.

@cameronurquhart1515 2 місяці тому

Thanks for the video Shane. Can we purchase those lay Controllers in Australia yet

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Not yet…

@brettbolam6671 2 місяці тому

Shane will this setup work on AppleTV? are there enough Bluetooth channels available? Cheers

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Yep, it'll all work on Apple TV. Best done via the Companion App for all the BLE connections. Power/Control/Cadence = 1, Click = 1... nothing left for HR. So Companion App is best.

@brettbolam6671 2 місяці тому

@@gplama thanks Shane!

@nilstills 2 місяці тому

Does this mean that I could use my track bike on the Core with the shifter paddles?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Sure.

@Ultegra10SPD 2 місяці тому

Kickr v2 and a TT bike? cog and click be enough? those play controllers wont be friendly to TT bars. thx in advance. -U10

@gplama 2 місяці тому

I'm told it'll be coming to the v4 onwards at this point.

@Ultegra10SPD 2 місяці тому

@@gplama native through axle race mode quieter belts, dircon, and now this. they’re trying so hard to get me to give up my V2. Guessing they’re so upset with all the money they lost on V2 as good as it is. -U10

@hughgrainger3766 Місяць тому

Any hope for someone with an ancient Kickr? V2 I think.

@euthiestamos9731 2 місяці тому

while using hub one, and the Click Virtual shifter, I have erroneous speed values reported to my Garmin head unit of over 100 miles an hour. does the kicker core 1 or others have this problem as well?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

No issues I've seen with the flywheel speed reported from the CORE.

@seano8102 2 місяці тому

Can you use the Zwift cog and virtual shifting on other turbos like elite?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Not at this point in time.

@kristianjorg418 2 місяці тому

Hi, is this just for Zwift or can I use another trainer program of choice? Like Rouvy or Big Ring?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Zwift

@kristianjorg418 2 місяці тому

@@gplama That's a shame IMHO. Let´s hope this feature gets popular on a broader level so we can make it a standard in whatever Bluetooth API that applies here. There are other options besides Zwift really...

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Zwift developed this protocol. They’ve done the legwork here. Similar to how Wahoo developed Direct Connect. Any other platform could have stepped up and done the same and open sourced it. Zwift have said they’re open to other platforms supporting this, and I have first hand knowledge they’re following through with this.

@rutgerweijer9444 14 днів тому

So I have a Kickr Power v5 and cannot use Zwift click because there is no supporting software in the form of a correct firmware update? Is that right? I ordered the Zwift click and loaded the latest firmware on the Kickr, but I don't see anything under supporting Bluetooth equipment.

@samirzakaria555 2 місяці тому

Hello, I'm french, so excuse me for my english. I've just a question. Is it possible to take a Kickr Core Zwift One and to replace the Zwift Cog by a classic Cassette ? Just in order to use others applications. Thanks

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Yes. This is possible.

@egril 2 місяці тому

Have you tried the JetBlack Volt roller? To see if it is compatible?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

It doesn’t support virtual shifting at this point in time.

@tw1npe4ks 2 місяці тому

Does it work with Sram AXS setup that has flat-top chain?

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Yes but not optimally.

@SonnyDarvishzadeh 2 місяці тому

Do you think they'd expand this to other trainers too? That hack seems physically compatible, but of course the software is missing.

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Maybe. Wahoo and Zwift have a good relationship. Garmin/Tacx... and the others... who knows.

@dangerfulmind 2 місяці тому

Read a note from Zwift the other day that said the other kickr models will be updated late in the year! Hope that someone at zwift got that wrong and it's soon.

@gplama 2 місяці тому

It's soon.

@technocynic 2 місяці тому

zoon? (old zwiftcast reference)

@n22pdf 2 місяці тому

Does option 2 work on Campagnolo ? Cheers Pete 😊

@gplama 2 місяці тому

Likely. One for Wahoo/Zwift support.

@stevehein9061 2 місяці тому

So how fast is the 14t cog going to mess up the sram flat top chains? My rival cassette doesn’t have a 14t , just goes from 13 to 15.

@gplama 2 місяці тому

I guess it depends. How clean the chain is, how much it's used, how hard you're pushing. 13 or 15 should be fine. It'll just shift the virtual ratios slightly.