Exactly

Or....who gives a shit if he likes humans. Who says that's how he should live?

Facts

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Factual

This goes for pretty much most animals that we keep in captivity. I also think there are way too many types of pets that really should not be pets. Dogs and cats are one of the few exceptions I think.

​@@theothertonydutch dogs and cats are only exceptions because they've been domesticated, they don't do well in the wild since they aren't wild animals (plus I'm pretty sure even if they could survive somewhere in the wild they'd just destroy whatever ecosystem they're put in, I think cats have hunted like 60 different animals into extinction)

Maybe Zoos altogether are wrong

@@jessecovington6639 yeah probably

​@@theothertonydutch I'd agree I have two birds but they shouldn't be in a cage when I'm at work or busy with other things they should be free in the wild. But since they were captive breed releasing them would kill them. I guess breeding them is better then what they used to do and take them from the wild but it's still morally questionable as raising a bird is a lot of work and literally a life time contentment and because life is so chaotic people end up having to re-home birds alot and it's really sad as those birds can create such strong bonds with people

@@blackhorse9729 I wonder if they ever took samples? Could potentially still sire some pups

@@blackhorse9729 breeding of killer whales is illegal now thank god

I think the same, Keiko FREELY chose to be a wild-gentle orca.

Freedom would simply giving him a choice

ROFL. No he did not. He was ONLY doing this because he learned humans = food and being unable to hunt properly by himself he HAD TO interact with humans - his capturers, torturers, abusers, the worse and most demeaning criminals of all centuries - to survive.

disgusting. he should have been allowed to stay in Oregon. releasing an animal in the wild after 25 years with humans should be animal cruelty. Everyone involved should be sent to jail for at least 2 months so they can think long and hard about the suffering they caused on one of the most intelligent and social creatures on this planet.

@@kitkat47chrysalis95and the people that captured him in the first place? How many months in jail for them?

@@billrobinson7897 one, two for the ones who decided that he should be in a chlorinated freshwater tank, but good luck convincing the cartels in mexico to enact this justice. you are racist if you even try to hold the Latinos accountable.

Him being free was the thing he needed, his health improved a lot and he was seen jumping and swimming fast, something he couldn’t do in an inclosed area. Him being free and seeking out humans is the perfect life for him, and he got to swim freely and visit different people whenever he wanted to. I would say he lived a good life out in the open, even tho it was cut short

@@imle9279 by that logic people should quit their jobs to go live wild and free in the wilderness where they can run free and sleep in until the sun naturally wakes them up hunting and gathering for food like the pre-modern humans did. by your logic a person who spends all day at a desk and then sits down in a moving box only to go sit down in a slightly bigger box is not living their best life. by your logic all of civilization will collapse. if it is good enough for the humans than it is good enough for the whales.

unpopular opinion, but this, in a way, is where alot of the free the whales/dolphins projects, while noble, are wrong. They've not been long term successful. Instead they should petition to make the ones in captivity the last ones there

@@knightbane3752 agree they keep breeding this captive whales

@@knightbane3752 i think they can both co-exist but i agree 100% the energy should mostly be spent making sure they stop breeding and catching whales

Their work has been in vain.

if they had released him with other captive whales that were put together it would have made a pod for him

That’s what happened to me. Well I was stolen at a considerably older age. But my foster parent threw me out when I was 20 and it’s a miracle I survived long enough to find my dad and go live with him.

And that's funny

Well they DID find his Clan and release him back into that area, so I'd say it's more like picking the toddler up in LA and dropping them off in San Fran

Yup it's honestly really sad. But we have to remember they didn't know back then what we do now but it doesn't make it right

Exactly

Freedom is bad for keiko, he did not know how to survive,he was bullied by other orcas. Freedom was not the answer. Leaving him in conservatory is the best option.

All in all at least he didn’t kill anyone due to being starved by his handlers like the one in the documentary Blackfish. Those people never took responsibility for what they did.

They left him alone...

Maybe you should do some research, other orcas won’t except him.

Don't try to reason with animal lovers. They're delusional and amoral and make situations worse than they already are.

​@@younglove3362 Put "animal lovers" in quotes to denote sarcasm.

I cried too. Agreed they did the best they could for Keiko!

but...but...my narrative...

True

This kind of also proves the point of the these whales are unfit to be kept inside since he didn’t have the capacity to swim for that long, it’s like putting a fat man in a forest all alone

@@enzoarayamorales7220 Absolutely agreed. Thankfully, most of us are now aware how cruel captivity is, especially for orcas & other porpoises. That’s Keiko’s ultimate legacy.

Well thats scuffed

@@kylieboettcher7438 yes, you're absolutely right! Thanks

I actually didn’t hear about poor Luna before but I was just thinking the same thing that could happen to animals like this that’s been in captivity almost their entire lives before this video even got going!

@@leahdamron9856 there's actually a couple movies and documentaries about Luna. I can't remember the names of them at the moment but just search in UKposts and you'll find them. I believe Disney+ or Prime have the movie too.

Springer made it back! Springer is a total success story

@@kylieboettcher7438o be fair at least everyone loved Luna and that whale probably got a lot of stimulation love and enjoyment during his time alive. I know it’s sad when any animal dies but I think they Luna got a lot of love by locals far better than these ones in captivity.

This. It's often not the specific case, however sweet and sour it may be, but the effect it has on culture. It changed peoples mind.

Aw what a beautiful story. I wasn't even a year old when he died but saw the movie years later. I was born in 2003 but Free Willy was a movie I loved growing up. May Keiko rest in peace knowing he got to see what freedom was like.

*Can u share those pics as a vdo in ur channel pls*

I was thinking this exact same thing!

He chose to swim off,its not like he was shooed away.

Agreed they should if had that still available to him

The irony of intelligence is that it's also the exact same thing that makes other pods notice the difference and be wary; lesser most people are kind, then it should be allowed to be with humans. The conservation in Iceland was the best balance of free but not being alone.

Animals don't know what the word "free" even means. He was just humanized to make people release him.

@@mr.turbo_boost3383 That's the unfortunate answer.

Money is the root of all evil.

You say that like we don't do worse to human beings

@@gearshiv We shouldn't do it to any sentient species

@@dustman96 first thing I think we should all take turns with your mom

Freedom is bad for keiko, he did not know how to survive,he was bullied by other orcas. Freedom was not the answer. Leaving him in conservatory is the best option.

the comparisons that can be drawn are horrifying

People in the streets choose their path. Telling God to go F himself. Not showing any respect for life.

That’s why we must be kind to all living, feeling beings - people and animals.

*breaking

I know!! But look too at all the happy times this magnificent creature had!!💚💚 Incredible story ..He actually bonded" with His human Family .sooo awesome G- gave this wonderful creature to us!!!!!!

This is similar to me haha. Although it was Dolphin Tale that sparked my interest to become a marine biologist around that age! I've still got a little way to go before I can achieve my dream but hopefully I will be working out there soon!

Yes, many random morons are easily manipulated 😚

And they say Fiction can't affect Reality.

@@arnowisp6244 Who says that?

@Kakuna Rattata OK, so I'm dorky enough I had to look up GTA... 😆

In theory that would be amazing, as both keiko and humans would benefit from the experience. In reality, however, there is a notable danger to the humans that keiko interacted with. If he had accidentally or purposefully hurt one of the people he swam with, things could have ended much worse for him

but it's still dangerous lol

have you seen what captive orcas have done to their caretakers? Don't play with a fucking orca, captive or not. Can be a life's experience in a way for 1000 people then 1 guy gets trashed and killed

@@jewelvexAnother big factor is that people aren't always kind to animals. Especially wild ones. There are stories that I read growing up where dolphins would follow and get extremely close to ships. Most ended up being shot at by passengers after they made headlines. Or so close to shore manmade things would kill them.

People need to stop treating wild animals like pets. Orcas are the wolves of the ocean. They hunt in packs and are ruthless killers that can catch up with fast boats easily. Letting people play with them thinking they are in a disney movie would end in disaster.

Exactly how I feel about human prisons....

@@saraiangelashut up

And three days ago, his female companion Tokitae died after years of loneliness in a small pool, months before a plan to free her was to set in motion. So incredibly sad.

That orca was Hugo

​@saraiangela some people are too dangerous to be free.

He did swim off and live for a year in the wild before catching pneumonia (happens in nature), so really the only sad part was the fact his pod couldn't be located. Once thing is for sure: he had a much better life for the last 5 years during his rescue - both his physical and mental well-being improved greatly

Ohh, what other whales have been successfully released? What names should I google?

​@@aidanwotherspoon905There aren't many cases like Keiko's where the said animal was kept in captivity for 15+ years, but there have been quite a lot of releases, and the longest an orca has survived after being released into the wild was nine years, however i think it should also be considered that said orca (named springer if i remember correctly) was only in captivity for a total of a month. There was also Misha, a bottlenose dolphin who survived for 6ish years in the wild after being released from 9 months of captivity. I'm only saying all this from base data though, i do not know how they were sent back, how they were rehabilitated or any of that. You can search their names up. Theres also a pdf containing the records of all cetaceans ever released into the wild which you can find upon googling.

Springer had also been sighted with a pod a number of times, though not his natal pod.

Sorry for the rambling but i recommend you search them up, the stories of these cetaceans, especially Springer are much different than that of Keiko's.

You are right. Sometimes you can't go back home, but you can stay and be safe, loved and cared for. Nobody even knew where Keiko was, that he was sick, gasping for air, in pain and dying alone. You don't think he died wondering what happened, or felt alone and abandoned? I think he did, being so intelligent, intuitive and emotional. Where were all the righteous people that set him free and then abandoned Keiko to die so cruelly? Those people should have been held responsible for Keiko in some way for the rest of his life, but what glory would there have been in that, instead they did their victory dances, turned their backs on him and walked away, washing their hands of him. Heartless, souless, unforgivable.

They may have been able to do it, had they rehab a group of the orcas to be released together. That why Keiko didn't need to join any wild orcas.

No he should have been left in the bay in Iceland able to come and go Oregon was no better than all the other bathtubs they stuck him in! Go spend the night in a dog cage just one night. He had the right to have an ocean they just didn't need him to move out of the bay!!!!

It really shows why you shouldn’t listen to a bunch of idiots calling you demanding some animal that doesn’t belong to them to be put out into the wild.

Why, of course they won't, even we, human with our resourcefulness cannot survive it if we are taken captive since childhood. A lot of people talk about America's freeing of slaves after their civil war. But only a few pointed out that almost one third of freed slaves died within a year because they just didn't know how to make a living by themselves.

Exactly!

There is no guarantee they would recognise him. Would a human family be able to immediately recognise a child that was removed from them at the age of 2. And that child has no recognizable ability to use language and acts in bizarre ways.

Male orcas are solitary by nature so him being rejected shouldnt be a cause for concern

​@Jellybean Male Orcas are not solitary animals. They may break from their natal pod to hunt or to breed, but they return in time.

If Keiko had been female, this would have had a much happier ending. Male orcas only have their mothers, and any brothers, or the occasional bachelor pod. Wild male orcas live a MUUUUCH shorter lifespan than wild females, entirely due to the fact they don't have that family dynamic. At least he was free, and people didn't just give up on him.

I thought about that too it would be so nice if something like this were possible but it could be difficult because most of the killer whales in captivity don't belong to the same family so they can't really communicate and I don't think they can learn other languages sadly :(

Lucky u.

Thank you for trying to help him. I never saw Free Willie, but I recently saw Blackfish, and the kidnapping scene was horrible. No cetacean should taken from its home and family.

Do you know if either of keikos pens are still usable? Cause I can't help budge the idea his Iceland pen would be ideal as a sanctuary for some of the orcas still in captivity today. Would be amazing to see them moved into a sanctuary or at least where they have space to swim 🥺

Some past friends were a trainer and attendant in Newport and Iceland. Their enthusiasm for Keiko and the project were infectious and as young professionals they were afforded an amazing opportunity to be a part of the project. Due to what I assume were NDA's they couldn't speak about the nuts and bolts but it seemed to me that there experience was enormously positive and then it wasn't? Maybe that had something to do with funding but that is just my speculation. I did learn a new term though, "Pissed on Skate", which I was told is a bar snack in Iceland that has skate cured/aged by a unique process. Very interesting history and folks today should remember that not only was this a first but also a very different time :)

I saw Keiko in Oregon. I remember it being a sad experience. He never really looked happy. I remember them telling our class that.

Me too! My baby who just turned one saw me crying. He came over, took my hand, put my hand on his face, and gave me his stuffed bear. 😭😭😭. More tissues please!

Same 🥲😭😢

That's why I say humanity is 🚮.

@@Alaryicjude Unfortunately there is a lot of truth to that sentiment, however, there still remains an immense amount of good in humanity that tries to counteract the bad. Just try to do your best to not succumb to despair and giving up, that's when all hope is lost. There are many beautiful people who continue to fight to right the wrongs, and I do still believe humans can bring about a better world; we're the only species with that ability, and we need to obligate ourselves to doing just that. With great power comes great responsibility.

@@niko7903, I've got control over myself. It's most everyone else that seems to not do the same... I'm doing everything I can while still having lost all of my hope in humanity. I've listened to too much true crime to ever think humanity is worth a shit anymore. If you don't want to lose all faith in your fellow humans then don't look up Junko Futura or Sylvia Likens or any of the other literal children tortured and murdered by not just adults but also other children... Who then get a slap on the wrist and (as far as I recall) all of the people who tortured and murdered those girls are now free to do it again... Humanity does NOT stand up against true evil so that's why it keeps perpetuating.

Little morbid, but I’ve been a drug addict/alcoholic for years, I’d be around hard ass dudes, guns and drugs in the room, just tense vibes. If there was a dog I’d be playing and petting the dog the whole time I mean, literally every time if there is a dog I’m giving it some love. Funniest shit ever because the dealers never gave a fuck bout their dogs, they were usually their baby mammas dog so they just got annoyed by it and I’d be the one high as fuck loving on the dog not giving a damn what anyone thinks lmao. Like yea even in a bad environment a cute animal is a cute animal and I’m not ashamed to say it as a man

Yesnit eas because he is desd and he died alone

Great idea

The problem with that is most Orcas in captivity aren't from the same areas, I remember reading somewhere in an article some whales came from Iceland, another from Washington I believe and just overall they were all taken from all over the world, They wouldn't be able to communicate

Not a pod of orca you want swimming around the ocean,,because 1 the killer whales have only known humans to take care of them so the orca pod would stay close to humans,2nd these animals are very highly intelligent emotionally sentient beings that literally have the largest brains in the world,,and most likely were mistreated on a regular basis,,just by being held captive for entertainment,and 3rd these whales have very long memories,,these whales can think,feel,,and these animals can hate just like a human if not worse ,,now this pod of orca comes to fruition ,,what do you think this pod of released captive whales that were used for entertainment are going to do,,killer whales are highly highly vindictive animals ,,I know this because I used to work with killer whales,,a staff member I worked with hit a male killer whale with his fist one day when we were at work,,after that day ,everyday for 4 months that whale watched,and learned,,one particular day russell was on the deck feeding the wales,and the male killer whale jumped up on the deck grabbed Russell,and drug him to the bottom of the whale pool,and drown Russell,,,that day i learned killer whales were calculating thinking animals,,that can hate human beings if for no other reason that what we are .....

not really, whales learn their pods language from birth. But perhaps they couldnt advanced their evolution and formed another cohesive way to communicate

I came to this comment section with the intention of leaving a very similar comment to this. You pretty much covered all the points. I've got old Polaroids of a very young me standing in front of him. The memories are quite fond, but age has sombered me to the reality that my interaction with that whale should have never happened.

@@CT5555_ many animals live what would seem an unnatural lifestyle and still enjoy much. He lived a dynamic life both in the wild and with humans. Some would say he was blessed to be loved by so many and got a chance to be free which many a man at least has died for. I’m also from Oregon, I remember, I remember that Keiko broke the glass on orca captivity and hopefully his trials have improved the life of many other orcas. Smile for that I hope.

I am Norwegian and was 9 when he died in my country. My favourite stuffed animal was a killer whale that was named Keiko

I probably bet that everyone knew they did the right thing but they got sad that now she’s dead but now they can say he was born in the wild and died in the wild

In other words. Nobody asked him what he actually wanted. He was set "free" to live an actual whale's life. Only to then end on a grave yard that people made because clearly that is how real whales die. I am afraid it has always been ironically more about what people wanted and not the whale.

@@techpriest4787 How exactly are we supposed to ask what an animal wants?

@@sirzorg5728 you do not ask in the first place. In Star Trek it is called the prime directive. You do refraining to get involved with lower evolved lives in the first place. For Star Trek the line was a pre-warp civilisation. For out animals it should be the ability to communicate that is required for contact and involvement.

@@techpriest4787too bad we can’t speak orca and ask him so I think our minds fill in the gaps with human attributes.

@techpriest4787 Release your pets then, Holier Than Thou. 😒

Imagine if everyone knew where he was burried and left gifts or built a memorial to him archeologists of the future would thin there was a civilization that worshiped a whale as their deity.

I doubt they will find much, with all the radiation and whatnot

oh, they'll conclude that the people who lived on that site worshipped killer whales as gods. Not too far from the truth, given who was responsible for the burial.

or they will watch this exact video hahaha

or google it? Hahaha

Hi Luka-Dante, Thank you for sharing your story....I'm so sorry for all your ailments. I love that you & your puppy, Keiko, have each other to love and cherish. God Bless you!

@@marthareichhold8201 thank you for your kind words they made me smile and I'm so happy I have him too..

omg, that's right, we used to call every orca "willy" in the 90's. memory unlocked

@@mischr13 Willy or Shamu

@tone you from the Bay?

Keiko had killed 2 seaworld trainers 🤷‍♀️

@@CUTESWON Stop spreading misinformation. It was Keto and Tilikum who killed their trainers.

@@mimimelendez6594 I literally left the link you can see the information for yourself that keiko killed.

@@mimimelendez6594 ukposts.info/have/v-deo/iKWLrKOeiqyCpKM.html

@@CUTESWON I don't see a link, but it doesn't matter. Keiko never killed anyone.

More sad than languishing in a barren concrete pool and slowly dying??? True, the ideal would have been for him to find his pod, bu least he had his freedom. Which would you prefer???

@@oliverallen3713for a highly social animal stripped of his original family, once he had been seen to reject being independent he should have been aloud to live out his last days with humans. What had been done to him could not be undone, and he experienced “freedom”, but he should died with those that loved him, not alone.

He was happy with humans in Norway ...

​@@oliverallen3713but je wasn't their anymore his last human conditions were pretty good.

But killer whales eat sharks and rays and Keiko would be a danger to the fish in the exhibit.

@@adamgoncalves1591 man idk what to tell you, I didn’t design the exhibit. I imagine they used fish that aren’t part of the larger animals’ natural diet. Upon reading your comment again I think you might be confused. Keiko is not at the aquarium in the tank with sharks and rays and fish. Keiko has been dead for like 20 years. The tank he used to live in has now been converted to an exhibit that features sharks, rays, and other fish. Those fish presumably do not eat each other. Hope this helps

I don't think Keiko would enjoy seeing other animals(sharks, rays, fish) that also don't belong in there in an aquarium. Wild animals are wild animals and only belong in the wild, nowhere else. Killer whales are more intelligent than most fish but that doesn't mean that sharks feel any less trapped between glass and humans staring at them. If you imagine yourself in there for the rest of your life you wouldn't be happy either.

Kiska Lolita and kshamek have the smallest and worse living conditions

Lolita is my only exception. At her age, and with her disposition, I really fear that moving her will be way too dramatic of a change and will cause her tremendous stress. The exposure to microorganisms in an open sea pen would totally overwhelm her system. And unlike others, Lolita is a privately owned whale. I hate her living conditions more than anything. It should be criminal to keep her in that tiny tank. But the fact is, her owner does love her. The fact that she has lived longer than any other whale in captivity EVER has, says A LOT. It's a testament to the care she's receiving. And even though we hate it, we do have to give that man credit for caring for his whale better than big billionaire SeaWorld/Anheiser Busch company. Lolita has a life and a daily routine which I now believe would cause her tremendous grief to lose, and she doesn't deserve to go through that.

Not so lucky though,very unlucky although his life,a very sad story,how man captured him,chewed him up and threw him out,condemned him to death 😢

@@sunitamosesesq Lolita's mother is still alive!! Aquarium's are LYING!! The normal lifespan of an orca is like the lifespan of humans, Lolita can become calves, she is NOT OLD, she is sick from captivity. And they left her alone in a hurricane!! Other people get prosecuted when they leave their animals alone. And they had enough time to bring her to SW. Look at this information, if the hurricane would not have made a turn Lolita would be dead.

I’m waiting for kiska ❤

He got pneumonia from being stressed out because he was so lonely !!! Stress can kill you 😪

Do you understand how hard it is to keep Killer Whales in Captivity?! Do you know the kind of space they need to truly have a healthy lifestyle? It's impossible to truly give them that kind of space. Maybe if Elon Musk Hyperfixated on Animal Conservation instead of Space Exploration...

@@niecyedmon1881 the FACT is that he got to live for 5 years out in the wild making his own choices in water that was natural for him, it was doubtful he would have survived another month in Mexico, he needed treatment for his skin condition and desperately needed cold, deep, real salt water instead of a bleach filled fresh warm water in a bath sized pool. He relearned how to echo locate catch fish and interact with his environment how is this not a success? Also because of what was learned during his rehabilitation 2 beluga whales have been rescued from China and are being rehabilitated to the wild although it is taking longer than expected because of COVID. People are now becoming supporters of sea pens for captured whales and dolphins rather than leaving them to die in aquariums because of Keiko and that is a fabulous legacy for the world's most famous Orca

They should have done that. Hell, they should have doubled down - gradually breed an entirely domesticated version of the Killer Whale.

@@MrJoeyWheeler they were hoping to reunite him with his own family if they had taken another Orca as a companion that Orca would have then been left alone

I’ve seen dolphins do that at sea world. A toddler in a stroller was plopped in front of one of the viewing windows and the dolphins crowded in front of him. I think it’s because they sense the purity of children and they’re drawn to it

@@chibicheeks78 One of my favorite things about mammals is their ability to recognize babies of other species.

If I had 20 million I'd hand it over only they would have to take two to the bay in Iceland not all the BS they did with Keiko. Too bad all the rich POS won't fork over the money to free all that's left in captivity!

@@chibicheeks78 nah cause they want to eat them. i think ur applying some kind of intelligence or human emotions to these animals. plus babies are not pure. they are basically shells w/no one inside of them

​@@aina3387 my personal observation of that was with horses, the mares always loved kids. I had a mare who could be a bit wild, but the neighbor's kids would go in the field with bouquets of dandelions (she couldn't get enough) and walk under her belly.

Keiko is a boy?

...I found the next thing to watch..on your channel.

How do you know?

you don't know that.

Keiko killed 2 seaworld trainers...

@@CUTESWONno he didn’t. that was tilikum.

@@lenah111 keiko killed alexis 2 months before tilikum killed dawn

🦋🌌💙

So sorry for your loss. I lost my dad too. We would watch Free Willy together all the time❤️

Sorry, Are you trying to tell me your Dad reincarnated as a whale?... Sorry I wasn't really paying attention to your comment so please clarify

@@liveuser8527 You can not be this dense.

@@theothertonydutch all I know is..Whales are psychic coinduits

He didn't exactly choose to be with humans. It's because he had been kept captive and in terrible conditions his whole life. Basically, it's like manipulating a kid making him think that being abused is ok from birth. The orca didn't even know what freedom tasted like, he didn't even know how to survive in the wild despite being "trained". Plus his injured fin didn't help. He would've been rejected by wild orcas anyway. He already did in 1985.

he was the equivalent of a toddler when he was taken from his family ... not surprising he struggled to reintegrate. makes me so sad to see these beautiful animals in captivity. I've spoken with an ex trainer (used to be friends with one) and its even more heartbreaking how much they love their animals, but they convinced they are better off in a pool. No they are not.

Dude it was literally Stockholm Syndrome, just like children who are raised in an abusive household don’t realize that what they are receiving isn’t really love. Look at child actors. They were kidnapping infant whales. John Crowe, a former diver, explains the kidnapping process in one of the most poignant interviews in Blackfish. In 1970, he was involved in a kidnapping operation in Puget Sound, Washington. When he and the other hunters tried to get the baby orcas into a stretcher, the family was in a big line communicating and refused to leave when their nets were removed. At that point, he realized he was kidnapping a child from its mother. On the verge of tears, he said it was the worst thing he’d ever done. When the hunt was over, there were three dead whales in the net. Crowe and two others cut the bodies open, filled them with rocks, put anchors on the tails, and sank them. Orca hunters were ejected by the state of Washington in 1976. The order specifically told SeaWorld to stop capturing killer whales, so they went from Washington to Iceland and began capturing there.

@@marquisdelafayette1929 yeah that's made even more horrifying when you know things like Orcas have culture and family bonds like we do and their maturity rate is about the same as us (its somewhere around the 15-18 years mark that the whales mature). Orcas are about as complex as us, they just don't make things like we do. and worse ... there are still captures going on today for the trade. China for instance loves putting marine mammals in captivity for entertainment. Russia is more than happy to help them with it too.

Actually pods are known now to each speak a different language so if one was to join another pod they wouldn't understand what they are saying pods that are created by orcas who were cast out lost or just left aren't even good enough at hunting to hunt large game like actual pods

😂😂

@@meme0619 i dont see what’s funny

​@@meme0619 you think that's funny sociopath

Orcas live longer in Aquarium. Specially Orca cubs have a lower mortality rate at them than in the wild. It's a common misconception that people believe.

@@Alejojojo6 Besides you being completely wrong since the life expectancy of captive orcas is around 10-45 years, while in the wild its up to 30-90 years, Medication to help the cubs live doesn't mean their tiny enclosures they can barely swim 3 body lengths in are amazing for them or the 10 fish they get for performing 20 tricks every 2 hours is enough, nor that the bare, sterile enclosures with no enrichment is amazing for their health and definitely doesn't cause them to self-harm and get aggresive. Orcas are incredibly complex animals, very much like we. Do you think you'd be able to live in a 2m² pure (insert whatever orca enclosure colour) box, with NOTHING in it and the only interaction/joy you get is walking nonstop in that 2m² box, escaping into your mind, blowing raspberries and every now and then from other people who tell you to do tricks and then throw a box of fries at you? Sure for a while, but not for long. We're very social creatures that need a lot of stimulus to be healthy mentally and physically because stress makes sick and kills, Orcas are the same.

I don't understand how this is still happening. It's sickening and what's it for to give some kids some smiles and laughs. They need to shut this down

how long had he been in captivity?

@@austrobok2958 I'm not sure. I think they said in the documentary. It was a BBC Earth project.

Can't believe this. It would and should be in the media because of the scientific impact it would have. The world would know about it already

@@GrapeApe2018 watch it. Not alot to go off of in a video thats less than 3 minutes long but these orca were captured as adults and put into the whale jail in Russia. But when released they did so iwhere the orcas were captured from. All these things cannot be matched when talking about captive whales in SeaWorld and others that have been born in captivity. There are not any orcas currently in the US that were captured in the wild. Russia or China thats a different story. We will not have the same success in this video if we try to do this with orcas that were born in captivity. Thats literally the point

@@kylestrange4494 So the lesson is: don't breed them in captivity. Just 'borrow' them from the wild for a couple of years then get them back to the sea.

Same here, also Oregonian. I was a teenager at the time and was on vacation with my family in Lincoln City in the summer of either '96 or '97 (I'm leaning toward '97), and one day we drove up to Newport to visit the Oregon Coast Aquarium and see Keiko.

Yep, his tank has since been converted into a shark tunnel. It's a great experience! A gentleman working in the gift shop will absolutely talk your ear off about sharks as long as you let him!

I was going to comment this as well. I was about 10 or 11 when I got to see him. Such an amazing creature.

Is it still in use or usable now?

​@@chairmanofthebored8684R.I.P. Tokitae 🌊🐳🌅

Yes I agree. I feel like ppl who want to keep orcas in captivity are making this bout SEE they can’t survive! When there is an orca released in Russia that is with a pod now. I’m pretty sure thousands of cetaceans if not a million have died because of being put in captivity. Slaughtered so they can steal their calves dying from trial & error learning to KEEP them in captivity at all and DEFINITELY dying in deplorable living environments IN captivity. So ppl just want to scrap it cause oh keiko died. I think Keiko would want us to keep on trying to end captivity no more stealing animals from the wild, no more breeding them I’m captivity and keep trying nothing is impossible. Even IF they have to live in sanctuaries it’s better then the way they are living in captivity, The first whale I ever saw in captivity I still remember her name was either Anore or illamar I don’t know which it was a school trip they were Beluga whales I’ll never forget we both recognize each other’s sadness before I was rushed to the next exhibit. I recently found her name cause I looked up what belugas were at that aquarium at that time knowing my age then. They were there only from 1985 til 1989 when illamar died of a bacteria infection and in 1991 Anore was killed by a “supposedly” dolphin attack I’d rather they TRY and free them there was 2 more Belugas came after the Kia and Sikku they shipped off to San Antonio or sea world right after Anore died I can find no further record of them cept one article Sikko was helping another whale keep her new born calf alive by helping it to breathe but it died. It’s like they “conveniently” disappeared meaning they are dead and hidden and ppl do not know how many times that happens. Also yes I’ve seen that show or documentary you speak of I’ve sworn off palm oil because of it. And those ppl do amazing work that’s WHAT we need here more work to undo this terrible wrong

He was also alone and miserable

​@@ChrisM-wv4gs which he was for his whole life anyway.

@@ChrisM-wv4gs his physical and mental well-being actually improved greatly from wh3n he was rescued. Alone yes, but able to explore hunt, behave like a whale. Only thing missing was the social side once he swam off

@oliverallen3713 that's good to hear

@@oliverallen3713 The “only thing” was something he direly needed, though. For a gregarious species to be cut off from peers is probably hell.

Agreed, the poor thing didn’t deserve to feel abandoned after all he had been through. RIP Keiko.

@@crazydoggentleman7930 Yea, the intentions may have been good but orcas are social. If he couldn’t fit into a wild pod, he should at least have had some human companionship. In hindsight, the Norwegians could have let people interact.

I agree. I wouldn't be surprised that along with pneumonia, he also died of a broken heart.

Your anthropomorphizing. How would a Orca have a concept of money and form an emotional resentment via that? From the Orca's perspective, all that can be said for certain was it remembered it's family vocalization and SEEMED to be lonely. Even then, the lonely part might be wrong since he didn't try to interact with the clans related to him and his previous interactions with Orca other than his own pod were violent and harassing. The best thing we can do for these animals is to stop throwing all our own human emotions, mindsets and expectations at them, hoping something we recognize sticks.

@@tanepukenga1421 I didn't say Keiko had a concept of money. Please don't misrepresent what I said. I don't think it's a stretch to say he had interactions which were pleasant and other interactions which were negative. It's not necessary to have a concept of money for an infant to feel distress when it is separated from its mother. What is the basis for saying he didn't try to interact with clans related to him? He was not under observation at all times so what was observed was that he was in the company of a pod of orcas then subsequently he wasn't. I don't think it's unreasonable to think an animal that is social would be uncomfortable outside of a group. In Blackfish, a person who captured young orcas spoke about the distress and anguish the pods seemed to be when a calf was captured. I suppose you don't think that can be assumed to be some form of emotion so there's no reason for us to have a conversation again.

best place was the bay in Iceland

It wasn't mentioned but keiko killed a couple trainers at sea World, I believe it was one woman trainer keltie (cant remember her last name but may she respt in peace) and a male trainer named alexis martinez (RIP) Unfortunately I think being in captivity lead these beautiful orcas to have psychosis episodes or something along those lines. The sea pen they made would have been ideal to keep keiko in for his own sanity but what upsets me most is we know this is a possibility yet still have orcas in fishtanks to this day. They need sanctuaries honestly and keikos pens would be ideal to have used again for other orcas still in captivity.

@@CUTESWON ah, didn't know that. Thought Keiko adjusted well to being in the larger tank.

@@TalkingHands308 yes I agree, definitely should have kept his Iceland pen accessible for him to come and go as he pleased, may have found some kind of decent balance given all the trauma he went through, he needed humans I think, despite having those incidents, he became accustom to us and it seems unfair to have ignored him when he tried to make contact. I do wonder if his pen would be suitable for some of the orcas still in captivity today though 🤔

@@CUTESWON Yah, that was sad, like it's one thing to force human interaction on him, but if he's seeking out human attention, I don't see why it's bad to let him have what he wants...

Maybe,just maybe,these tragic stories will discourage hoomans from interfering with nature for any reason whatsoever,though am not holding my breath.I am glad Willy found a taste of freedom,but so sad about the outcome.I hope people will have learned their lessons but frankly,doubt it.Homo stupidous has not got a good track record for other species welfare,ask the dodo,great auk, Tasmanian tiger & others.I sincerely hope merefolk,Big foot,Nessie & others rumoured to exist,are never found Because if they are,I dread to think what would happen.As a species,humans are the pits.Thankfully,there are more & more who are seeing the light.May their numbers grow & lessons be learned.

I'm isolated and does anyone take ME to the sea? No, no they do not. Why'd HE get to die seeing the SEA and feeling freedom and I DON'T?!?! I'm am intelligent albeit mentally damaged individual. NOT FAIR

@@maxdurbin3033 you have the means to escape and get to the sea by yourself, go for it. lol

He was physically never in shape as his dorsal fin never straightened. Meaning he never went on high speed deep dives while hunting..

@@NoFaceMaiden No, you don't understand. I'm very fat, not unlike a whale. My enormous gut and limbs do not suport their own weight. Please explain why willy gets special treatment.