I agree F1 should incorporate more static cameras. I remember they once had a camera mounted inside of a curb at Spa, that shot of cars driving over it was so cool even Crofty commented on it.

"Planes fly and cars really shouldn't." Master of understatement. 😂

3:15 you forgot to mention that Jacques and Riccardo had a bet to see who could take Eau Rouge/Raidillon flat first. Jacques tried first and brought out the red flag, and then Riccardo got a chance to try and also brought out the red flag!

The F1 car being faster in the corners than the bike is not just about downforce, it’s also about size of contact patch.

“Providing precedent for Perez in Monaco” 😂 Savage Scott hahaha 6:51

Always remember that Clarkson race round Silverstone. .. Johnny Herbert in a Ford F1 car… Colin McRae in his Focus and Clarkson in a Ford Cougar… Colin does an absolutely epic power slide round the final corner as the F1 car chases him down. Epic!

From the kangaroo livery, I'm assuming that's an RAAF Hornet. Also, it looks like he performed a mil power takeoff, probably because afterburners would have been dangerous to the car and the driver's hearing. At mil power, it generates 11,000 lb of thrust per engine. At full AB, it would have generated 18,000 lb of thrust per engine. And airplanes don't have concerns with wheel spin from putting down too much power.

Back in the late 80’s I drag raced a bone stock 1973 RX-3 on the same night a top fuel dragster was doing a test and tune. My 60 foot time was about the same as his 1/4 mile😂

I did a little research on fighter jets from a standing start. There's not a lot of data because it's not really an important statistic, but from what I CAN find they have a 0-60 of around 2-3 seconds so they're no slouch.

In 2003 (I don't remember exactly) Micheal Schumacher in the F2003 drag raced an Eurofighter (military jet) on 3 diatances, losing 2-1 by a couple hundreds of a second.

RIP Ken. A true fucking legend.

For the jet engine, if it's allowed to spool up first, it can deliver as much thrust as the breaks can hold almost immediately and get to full thrust very quickly. However, if it's starting from idle thrust, it can take a while to spool up from idle. Generally, they create more power the faster they are spinning, which in turn spins them faster and allows them to create more power (sort of like a turbo). However, you're doing that with basically the entire engine, not small components of the engine. I don't know the numbers for military jets, but for commercial, it can take 1-2 seconds to go from idle to full thrust. Considering how slow the acceleration is, I'm guessing it started from idle. Turbofan jets like are in the F-18 also (at least at sub-sonic speed) provide more power the faster they're going through the air. All of this to say that the slow start seen is reasonable for an idle, unassisted start.

The F18's take off speed from a standard runway is about 200mph, so the acceleration would've been pretty aggressive at the start.

I understand that F1 uses dynamic cameras so the liveries and sponsors are more readable but surely a few static shots would do wonders to get new viewers interested in the sport

The FA-18 was fitted with an auxiliary fuel tank (under the mid-hard point). Hardly optimal for this but the unknown is the massive difference between whether it was empty or full.

11:50 The F-18 would do that pretty quickly, afterburners are amazing at producing thrust

Theres some really high quality simulations that a few UKpostsrs have been putting out. You can really see the difference in lap times and cornering that seperate F1 from Indycar, Nascar, GPs, LeMans racers, and so on. They can make the cars go all out, without any safety precautions lol obviously, but they still are able to really exemplify how fast F1 is. I linked the video of Nascar vs. F1 below, taking it all in, is why, in my personal opinion, F1 is the peak of motorsport. Its just unprecedented how much speed, power, downforce and sheer ground-breaking engineering goes into the sport. Its a world-wide sport, raced on tracks of all kinds (yes to be fair, not all kinda of surfaces, but I think the point still stands). I think what supplements that is my opinion that F1 drivers are the most talented drivers in the world. Weve seen F1 drivers go on to have success in Indycar, Nascar, Rallying, GT racing, Formula E, and so on.... But we rarely, if ever, especially in the modern era see drivers from any of those series come over to F1 and have success. To me F1 is the peak of motorsport and F1 drivers are the best of the best drivers in the world. (Give or take a few Mazespins or GOATifi every once in a while) Forgot to add the link lol. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/oHZ8d6JprI18l4E.html

Standing start of the f-18 seems pretty legit. I use numbers of the EF typhoon because I am more familiar. The f18 is less performant but it's sufficient for the explanation. In perfect conditions (no payload, empty tanks) the EF has an acceleration of 2g almost immediately after releasing the brakes without power loss or shifting. ("Almost" only because the brakes can't hold the plane in full reheat) This means a 0-100km/h (62mph) time of ca. 1,5 s. 2,5 s of an F1 car should be possible even under realistic, conservative conditions.

7:52 Seems like they were only pointing out major corner complexes on the track (Copse, Maggotts/Becketts, Stowe, Club, Abbey and Bridge/Priory/Brooklands/Luffield)

V8 Supercars love static cameras they are so cool when they drive over them. F1 needs more of them and to be permanent.

Mika was awesome.. So Finnish. He had a shunt in practice at Montreal. During the interview, they asked what happened.. Mika say flatly “I hit a beaver”. It was so Mika.

This doesn't look like a video updating us about Callum and Will... What is going on with Overdrive, Scott?

For the rolling start with the F18, planes usually spool up their engines while applying brakes and then release once up to a good rpm. So yes the fighter jet can start moving quickly while engines need to apply work and "slowly" rev up to a nice power.

11:45 Really neat (if only for a second) seeing the exhaust from the F-18 as it goes past the F-1's rear wing, I would love to see an F-1 speeding through fog or something where you could get a really good look at the aero.

I cant speak for an F-18, but I can for a Boeing 777... If you hold it on the brakes with power on and let go uou do get some fairly significant acceleration, its quite relentless too, it just keeps going and and going. Acceleration gets faster as you go faster, so the 0-60 is slow (but probably sub 15s) but its 100-200 is extremely fast. I cant imagine what a F18 with reheat is like, I imagine the F1 car had very little chance once the aircraft got moving.

F/a-18 standing start with full afterburner it will accelerate fast, but it has a lot of inertia to get over at first. So it really depends on how long the track is. Wouldn’t take long to leave any car in its wake.

Greatly done! As an Airforce Vet, I've been around these planes. And they still give me the chills. One of my all time favorites, the F-16 and the F-4 Phantom.

MotoGP may not be the fastest, but it's the most exciting form of motorsport there is by far imo, certainly more than what F1 has become.

at 11:55 an F-18 could start rolling very quickly, the pilot would hold the brakes, run up the engines, and then release the brakes, aircraft would already have engines spooled up producing a fair bit of thrust and the plane would start rolling as soon as they overpower the brake pressure. so if the pilot was holding the brakes but pushed the throttles into full after burner, the plane would roll as the engines are producing more power than the brakes can handle. planes can get a very good launch from a stop

I feel like Red Bull is the only Team/Company that can or is willing to take on publicity stunts and challenges like this. Wether it be the F1 car, Cub cadet Planes, just everything you can think of lol. Absolutely love it

Early 2000( can't remember the exact year) CF-18 raced against the indy car of Carpentier in Bagotville base. 32 000 lb of trust with a 36 000 lb weight against a turbo charge race car. Plane went flying but the car did pretty good. It was fun to watch.

10:22 "And that's all down to downforce" It's definitely a factor, but another (and probably bigger) one is tyres. F1 cars have a lot more rubber touching the tarmac, which makes braking much, much easier. Mick Doohan test drove a Williams car in 1998 on the Catalunya circuit, which he was familiar with from his motorbike racing days. In an interview he said that he was approaching a corner in the Williams, and just instinctively started braking where he would if he were taking the corner on a bike. He stopped the car before it even got to the corner.

Ferrari did a similar video with Eurofighter and schumacher in 2003, the car won 1/4 mile, the efa the mile

My takeaway from the video of all these vs their relative racing series: How fast the racing vehicles are has little to zero impact on how exciting/boring the racing is. Something for the regulation makers for F1 to think about I wonder🤔

The Superbike is based on a road bike you can buy in a shop and then tricked up to give fantastic performance, the F1 is purpose built to round race tracks. Having said that, I'd love to see Guy Martin take on David Coulthard for a couple of laps of the Isle of Man circuit where the bike would be more at home (the F1 would be in bits after a mile).

11:30 "Now this isn't a proper race". You have two things competing to see which comes first, it's as propper as any other just with some extra awesomeness :)

Very well show set up and interesting too! Thanks a million!

most interesting part about the F1 vs F/A-18 is the size comparison in my opinion, F-1 cars are pretty small, but often it's hard to get a size comparison of two very different things like that.

Best sounding engine I ever heard was Ayrton Senna's V12 F1 car. I was about 2 feet from it when he started it, did a tight donut, the ripped away at full throttle. The sound was literally musical as if the exhaust pipes were trumpets. Unforgettable!

That W204 C63 is actually my dream sports car. What really makes it for me is that 6.2L NA V8. One of the best sounding road cars ever made imo. Its just so pretty as well.

I agree with the cameras, too. When Brundle is trackside in Friday practice, some of the angles the cameraman gets make the cars look rapid. The views nowadays seem to be zoomed in to much for some reason. Just a blurry mess.

Daniel Ricciardo also raced the RB7 during Top Gear Festival 2013 in Australia against a race winning Time Attack Evo 9. RB7 obviously won (by over 2 seconds) but was still an interesting comparison. Edit: Race was a staggered start. Actual lap time difference is over 13 seconds.

As a former 306 owner and current 308 GTi owner (and recently a Porsche owner, etc), the 306 GTi-6 will always be my dream car, it doesn't get more perfect for a B-road than one of those...but yeah, a modern hot hatch is a whole level of performance above it. The static camera really is a great shot, I can't remember seeing anything that shows the speed as well as that side-by-side comparison.

Thanks for a fun video, nice you incorporated a bit if bike stuff as well 👍

I remember Wayne Gardner having a drag race on a road bike with a RAAF F/A-18 in the late 1980s. Although he was quicker off the mark I think the top speed was slightly different…

Planes fly and cars shouldn't. Mark Webber has entered the conversation.

That jab on Perez was hilarious, great video!

Something that might help for understanding the bike and the jet thing; bikes, under acceleration, are designed to transfer all weight to the rear wheel, which means that, functionally, they become exactly the same in terms of performance to a well tuned 4 wheel drive vehicle... In practice, bikes are really hard to manage on launch, and car 4wd systems are very hard to tune and to optimise for anything other than a given tested circuit (ie; if conditions vary the drive effectiveness will vary) and as a result, it's always a mixed bag watching bikes and 4wd's launch, but they'll both spank a 2wd anything over the first little bit all of the time. Jets (and I'll caviat this by saying I'm an automotive engineer, so I have less knowledge of jet stuff) have a similar efficiency issue related to exhaust velocity vs disc area/exhaust area as cars and motorbikes do in terms of gearing and tyres driven (think launching the F1 car against motorbikes and 4wds again), but on steroids... This plays out that, at slow speeds, jets both accelerate poorly and have very poor throttle control and responsiveness... If you listen to pilots of the SR71 blackbirds talking about trying to aerial refuel, they're normally working hard to stop from just falling out of the sky, juggling multiple controls and, by some accounts, even using one engine only, with huge rudder on to try and gain some sort of control authority to maintain flight at that slow a speed. Similarly, there are reports of people in F16s and FA18's smashing SR71's in intial full power climbs, solely down to this efficiency thing. That being said, just like in the F1 vs motorbike example you've got in this video, when the faster aircraft gains "traction" (efficiency) and can put all of their power to good use, they just streak away... While the plane in your example is an FA 18 and, while it's got a variable geometry exhaust duct to try and give it something like the best of both worlds in terms of low speed behaviour, you can't beat the laws of physics... A propellor powered aircraft would out perform it on the initial roll, so will the F1, a motorbike and a 4wd car, but when the F1 hits it's aerodynamic speed limit, the FA18 is just starting to get to the "good bit" :D From that point they'll probably be able to sustain nearly 1g acceleration for a bit and cruise on to nearly 2000km/h, whereas if the F1 continued at that pace (over 300km/h) for another 10 seconds or so it would start spitting out conrods :D

I recall a Triumph Dolomite Sprint matching Superbikes around a circuit in the late 1970s.

@Driver61 Nikki Lauda did a one lap vs several other vehicles. While the other vehicles started out on the lap, Nikki had a tea, put on his helmet and slowly got into his vehicle, then he took off and caught every vehicle in less than a lap. I've never forgotten that video and have never been able to find it. I would appreciate if someone could find a link to it!

"Airplanes Fly but cars , REALLY shouldn't " 🤣

Awesome as always! ❤️

i was on track at a Snetterton test day in a single seater the same time as an F2 car. My mirrors were vibrating and i could only hold one of them still on the straights - to get some sight of what was behind. There'd be no sight of the F2 car going into a set of corners, but it would turn up mid corner. I couldn't see it but, despite my crash-hat and the engine behind my head, i could hear it arrive behind me. And when i heard it accelerate to come past me, i had to trust it was going the right side. It lapped me every 2.5 laps - and after i'd watched it disappear down the straight ahead of me, i knew i had about 2 laps before i had to start looking out for it again.

I was at the Australian Grand Prix when they did this in 2012! They tried to stagger the start of them to get them all to cross the start finish line at the same time. ..

There is McLaren F1 Vs Porsche 928 Vs Ford Sierra 1.6 done in about 1982 with same concept of starting on interval and finishing at same time. Drivers were Niki Lauda, John Watson and James Hunt.

Couldn’t agree more about the camera angles. That view from the front with the telephoto lens makes the cars look like they’re crawling

@Driver61 I was at that Top Gear show in Barbados and I can confirm from my own cell phone video that the Hamilton vs. Block race happened on May 18th 2014

The first of these comparison races was in 1990/1991 when Senna was in the MP4/5B against a Honda road car and a Porsche 911 around the Estoril circuit. It was featured in a documentary called Inside and Track - Senna and McLaren. Similar format and outcome to the demos here but great to see the legend driving.

Thanks for such a cool video! Back in the 80's Freddie Spencer did a cool comparison in a video: GP bike Vs Street Bike Vs Car. Freddie's riding 500cc's of 2 stroke insanity. Another cool super comparison is: Ferrari F1 2022 F1-75 vs Ferrari F1 2025 Concept at Silverstone GP. Just 3 years and what an insane difference.

I hate seeing a Noble get destroyed. Great video as always!!!

Years ago, Martin Brundle did a comparison between a Ferrari road car and an F1 car, going from 0 to 100 mph, back to 0. It was done (I think) on ITV. It was a very impressive demonstration of the massive acceleration and deceleration that F1 cars achieve. He had furry dice hanging in the Ferrari to show the G exerted on the driver firstly accelerating, and the dice flying horizontally backwards as the car sped up, and then banging the windscreen as he braked. Be good to find that piece of film.

The trouble with drag racing modern (ish) F1 cars, is that they're not really designed to go much above 210mph, so even if you put skinny (oval) type wings on etc. to reduce the drag, you'll not be able to extend top gear (without a redesigned gearbox, and who's going to do that for a demo), and so the car will just hit the rev. limiter. Yes, hybrid cars seem to have a bit of headroom in the RPM stakes, but I bet their torque and MGU power nosedive at these higher RPM's.

Just an FYI the F/A-18-A in the car vs jet is from the Royal Australian Air Force. A21-54

All aircraft pretty much do standing starts by starting out at high power output with their brakes on. Then they release brakes and get rolling. Now for commercial aircraft things have changed a bit that they do more rolling starts vs the standing start cause now they’re scheduled to take off as soon as they hit the runway. But smaller aircraft and even military aircraft still perform the standing starts.

Some company should sponsors static cameras in F1 and get all the love from F1-fans

Correction : Ken Block is actually using a Ford Fiesta

The car wow red bull special was a good set of drag races. F1 Moto gp rally cross and some mad 1000hp van.

Seeing a fighter jet in person is a life changing experience! So much louder than yoyd think! You cam feel the power from a mile away! And hear them way farther than that! Everyone should make it to an air show to see them!

I love how easily the F1 car can swerve across the track to go around the slower traffic. It doesn't flinch at that harsh steering at speed. Attempting something similarly aggressive in either of the other cars would likely have resulted in a spin.

11.50, If you are on the brakes and full throttle the plane usually wont move and I think the pilot did that with the F-18 then let off the brakes as soon as they were cleared to go.

4:35 RIP KB4👻3

11:50 a lot of fighter jets can overcome their wheel brakes in full afterburner, so if they time it right & release brakes right as the afterburners kick in, the acceleration in the video looks plausible. Then again, it doesn't look like his afterburners are on (although that could be a trick of the lighting/camera filters), & my only actual experience w/ this stuff is in X-Plane 11 simulator, so maybe it did require some editing trickery..

Great breakdown and comparison, only a jet engine can see an f1 car in the rear view😎

No comment on the fact that the old f1 car did a 1.27 and the new one a 1.30!?!?!

4:07 that "something cool" was probably a koenigsegg

What I liked about the comparison race was that they had delayed the starts perfectly so that they would all be seen together right at end

There's one where an f1 car raced a jet and a kawasaki h2r (plus others), that an awesome race

1:26 A fellow V10 enjoyer Sometimes i try to imagine the power of the V10 with todays technology in F1

In the clip where the F-18 raced the F-1 car, the producers gave the F-1 car more f a chance than people realize. if you look at 11:21, the F-18 is taking off with afterburners lit, which is the full power of the engines. However when it races the F-1 car, there are no afterburners. This means that the F-18 was doing a rather relaxed take-off. It could have gone MUCH faster.

The f18 blue angel versus the blue devil corvette the f18 was pulling away almost instantly. So the acceleration from a dead stop is nothing to sneeze at.

jet race: if using afterburner during the takeoff, the FA18, F16, and F15E can jump off the line with racecar "slam you in the seat" g forces, but unlike a car, those jet engines dont let up as you gain speed. the pressure against the seat stays the same

The Hornet has a switch for full brake, then the pilot goes full throttle for a second then flip the brake switch. This method is used for short runway takeoffs.

…ferrari did a similar stunt where schumi raced against a 550 maranello and a fiat. I remember they showed schumi was still out of his car drinking coffee when the 550 launched (driven by irvine).

That Hornet was an Australian F-18.

A comparison between Formula 1 and a hypercar like the Rimac Nevera would be interesting. The track should not have too many fast corners and some very slow ones. That way, the Nevera can play to its advantage in terms of acceleration.

The Ultimate Speed Comparison in Melbourne used to be one of the most fun parts of the Melbourne weekend. No time for it now with four support categories.

I don't know in terms of MPH how fast an F/A-18C accelerates, but I do know 2 things. You put the Hornet at Burner and hold the brakes on until the engines are run up to full power and then when the brakes release it'll be gaining speed fast, and the F/A-18 is not a very fast jet. It's relatively low power gives it poor acceleration which is one of it's biggested drawbacks as a fighter.

redbull wasted a massive opportunity of getting Mark Webber to drive against the jet lol

Completely agree with static cameras in F1.

Would have loved if the jet throttled up to afterburner then releases brakes for a better roll.

This is the motorsport equivalent of wanting to put someone from the stands into every professional sport game just to show how good the pro's really are.

I bet the fighter jet is pretty terrible in the braking zones... Great fun video though!

Just to fix a point, that's not a US Navy F/A 18, it's an RAAF one. Filmed at RAAF Base East Sale. Was very cool to watch.

10:33 not sure about that. Regular motorcycles actually have a huge frontal area with respect to their size and power which is why they reach pretty mundane terminal-velocities despite being much quicker to accelerate than regular cars due to having much less mass. The drag co-efficient is also abysmal and with no downforce either. The film "The fastest Indian" showcases what can be achieved when you make a motorcycle more aerodynamic.

The last race with the jet, try a Top Fuel dragster next time. Likely the rail will be at the end of the track by the time the jet leaves the ground.

2:35 this type of staggered start comparative exhibition has decades of history in V8 Supercars. Speed comparison races. Theres a great video of a classic 70s/80s championship V8 car, vs 2000s road V8, vs then racing V8 supercar. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/ao-Je5iNoptjq5c.htmlsi=qh1Z-zpGVtOJ_Q-r It's a really great way to demo the vehicles at their best, but also provide that picture finish. The staggered launch REALLY makes you realise the expected differences, you have time to watch & compare the cars, and then you get that great finish I'd honestly love to see this format w a F1 vs F3 vs... Ariel atom? Some form of made for track car. The "of a kind" comparison really sets this form of exhibition off, just that cherry on top.

For context with the Ken block vs Hamilton race for top gear festival, the track was intentionally left unpaved at certain points for the red bull global rallycross that was using the circuit as part of their calendar to that season and the following year it was fully paved for that year's top gear festival and I think race of champions was also held that year or could have been the year after, but I'd pay money to see that race again.

It may be way slower but the racing, bravery and spectacle of MotoGP far outshines F1 for me. I love the technology of F1 but can't be bothered to actually watch it any more.

Is no-one gonna mention Dani Pedrosa on Carwow, smoking the F1 from a standing start?

There was even a comparison video from ferrari with a fiat bravo, a ferrari 550 maranello (driven by eddie irvine) and Michael Schumacher in his 1996 f1 car. I think it was in imola