good to know Nikita is on the level of senna

Absolutely....

For sure.

Well people literly complain when Verstappen and K Mag drove aggressive like this

Sure!

Like what?

@@purwantiallan5089 that we may never know

Exactly

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@@purwantiallan5089 It's not what he drove, but how he drove. Basically fearless and coming through full-on. Aggressive and on a mission to win... he'd do the same today. People got the hell out of his way, listen to the interviews. One of the greatest drivers ever, yet you doubt him? lol.

not to forget sir jackie stewart. He was also a really smooth driver.

and jim clarks idol the all great Juan Manuel Fangio was also a smooth driver, as well as sir Stirling Moss was. You can say till the mid 70s driving smooth was key.

@@simjani. Yep - patterned himself after Jim. Both wanted to win at the lowest speed necessary. They only pushed when they had to.

@@simjani. Ah, yes. But the four-wheel drift was a necessity back then. As was power-on oversteer. It would take them some time to adjust. But once they did, buh-bye!

Jimmy was so good he could easy beat Nikita Mazepin today in his farmyard tractor. I'm serious. Nikita would bin the car halfway through the race. When did Jimmy ever bin a car (or indeed, tractor).

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Agree. But also because putting those cars on the sheer ragged edge in a time when they were dangerous also played into it as well. Now that the cars are safer, drivers feel comfortable and safer to drive, you cannot account for the sheer guts of that driving style. In truth though, Prost was better on high-speed corners/tracks than Senna was (Senna was far better than Prost on technical circuits).

Senna drove some of the most imprecise and buckling cars perfectly, but surely he would not drive a modern car. A youtuber said so.

@@joaoebordignon I think we would be bored with todays cars. You can almost hear him saying "this isn't racing". Also Senna with DRS would just be a cheat code

There’s that video of him driving an NSX and he was doing the throttle stabbing technique with that too.

Read "The Technique of Motor Racing" by Piero Taruffi.

@@axelnussbaumer that’s because that nsx also has its powerband at such high rpm’s still so it makes some sort of sense to do that in the nsx

@@axelnussbaumer I have a hard time calling the NSX a street car, I mean I know it’s street legal but I’ve only seen one in my whole life and I’ve lived all over the place lol

Jackie wasn't the fastest of his era. It was Jim Clark.

I mean it was always like that driving the smoother the better with high grip aero cars like F1. But the current cars are just so refined that you basically dont need to do any corrective actions. On the other hand it looks boring. Seeing drivers not really fighting the track / car. Only really fighting the tires.

@@LaggerSVK And I hope that changes with the new regulations. Less aerodynamic grip and a heavier car which might make it harder to correct. The drivers also say that the new cars are more nervous due to the bigger rims. Hopefully we’ll see more drivers fighting the car this season

@@Sverrehope the sidewall is smaller meaning it doesnt absorb much of energy which makes for some "nervous driving" but in general I wouldnt say the added weight would make it nervous. I would say the contrary but its not really that easily dependent on weight.

@@LaggerSVK well, it just doesn't seem that way from the insanely well balanced and stabilized T-cams. if you look at the helmet cams, the drivers are actually doing a lot more work than you'd think. the cars also have noticeable amounts of understeer and oversteer depending on the setup which become really apparently on push laps if you look close enough at the right times

@@dragonkrieg4444 yes, thats something but the driver inputs are extremly smooth compared to 90s. They are correcting only minimaly.

Uh...Senna has over 400 starts in karting. He drove on anything but instinct. Probably had more wheel time than ANY driver he ever competed against.

@@shooter7a Yep, in the tests for Williams, Senna said "the car is getting slower and the engine is going to break" after he beat the track record, and he was right, after a check-up, the Williams mechanics found serious problems with the engine. Frank Williams was so surprised that he kept documents about Senna's tests as a trophy. :)

@@TortugaAW in karting he was known by his mechanics to be be so sensitive that he could feel if the rear tire stagger was off by just 5mm.

No such thing as instinct. He trained a lot, he took hardworking to a new level. The story about him being so good at rain races is pretty well known already, he spinned at a kart race when he was a boy, he got frustrated, so everytime it rained in São Paulo (which is not exactly uncommon, São Paulo was know as 'land of the rain' back then) he'd get his kart out and race for the sole purpose of getting better at it.

@@louquole He did the same after being already world champion several times and a estabilished driver - back at Interlagos 94 practice. It rained alot. All drivers were inside the pits, Senna went out on the pooring rain to have a "feel" for the Williams. It helped the show for the brasilian fans, but people should not kid themselves, Senna was not showing of there, he was testing the car in the rain. He was an ungoing student of the sport until that very last 94 Imola race lap.

Drivers now though have to adjust like a million settings on their wheel in the middle of a lap though, that itself also adds a level of difficulty and requires alot of concentration even if they dont really have to take their hand off the wheel

@@dansprague2 DTM, BTCC, SCCA, IMSA,WRC, 500cc/Motogp. Yeah! These and many others are still ok. In the 1970s, 80s, and 90s these were awesome. Politics and retrograde leadership have curtailed their shine quite a bit. The trend is to completely divorce racing from real life. Autonomous Electric vehicles are going to lessen or even eliminate racing in a not so distant future. Daytona, Le Mans might survive like Horse Racing has done, but don't see much more beyond that. Better to enjoy the present as much as possible. Tomorrow is not guaranteed.

@@juanmontoya6622 There’s no way Monaco doesn’t survive if Daytona and LeMans do.

@@wjspade You could not have chosen a worst time to say that lol.

Yes. F1 is really unappealing these days. No wonder TV viewership has fallen by about 300,000,000 since 2009 I believe. You see how Indycar slowed their cars down and now their racing is exciting as ever? But it seems F1 will never realise Faster =/= Better. I would sell a kidney to have those light, small and nimble cars of late 90s/early to mid 2000s back. F1 has already peaked out and is now just slowly dying

@@R9naldo it's growing again since 2021 has gained 100-150 million viewers since 2017 It's not dying and it's pretty exciting again

Agreed but it isn't about him as a driver but his driving style back then.

The point is that there is little to adapt to, since today's cars are as close to driving on rails as possible.

@@amjan somehow haas still can’t understand that

Yes, the best always adapt. The best drivers can extract 100% of car performance given enough time.

@@alexsch5583 fair enough tbh, though considering Senna and his technique were very closely intertwined its kinda hard to separate them

Not a senna fan here, but i believe senna at least deserve more wdc than prost.

@@gentasepriandi999 He does, unfortunately his career hit a barrier

@@gentasepriandi999 Crazy thing is, Prost could easily have become a 7x WDC if it wasn't for bad luck

@@gentasepriandi999 again discredit prost

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@@user-cw2nl8jr7h well all of the cars on the track are different, different tires, different aerodynamics ect. there are a lot of factors that go into it. Lewis is working around mercedes' car, if he was in a haas or a mclaren im sure he would change up his cornering style

I did it because I was used to rally games

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No he wouldn’t

@@JL-gf3ycyes he would.

@@gconcs no he wouldn’t, too up himself

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Google tho says that low pressure tyres give less grip because they use up less of their surface area? Idk anything, just wonder if you could say why that is, tho my brain would tell me that you are right.

@@JoelLinus It depends on the vertical load of the tyre and the properties of the tyre (e.g. shape, construction). It's always a compromise in an attempt to reach an optimal average pressure that works well for a given track layout and level of downforce, suspension stiffness and specific tyre. Of course if you underinflate, the middle part of the tyre is not gonna make as much contact with the surface, just as the outer layers won't if you overinflate. The problem with modern tyres is that they're extremely overinflated, just to manage the very high levels of downforce of the cars. I suppose this may change this year with the shorter sidewall and reduced levels of downforce because of the rule changes.

A master class! A must read, I would say!

@@hristoitchov I'm no expert, but imo a good example of seeing tire type and certain inflation/deflation would be to watch a top-fuel drag car. The tires are purposefully underinflated because when the pedal gets jammed to the floor the tires go from a seemingly flat look to "growing" in height. In F1 those tires are also moving pretty damn fast (though not as fast as top-fuel), the air inside the tire will get hotter and "expand", like top-fuel, yes? You can add this to the discussion. ;}

@@SuedeStonn True to some extent, as it is a similar principle, but from what I’ve read on the topic, top-fuel drag car tyres are a special case, as they have to cope with thousands of horse power coming from the engine. In F1 the demand is mostly the high downforce, not so much the engine power (although that is a factor too of course). The difference in ride height between running cold and heated tyres is only a few millimetres. In short, the tyre construction in F1 is much stiffer/more rigid, compared to dragsters.

He was Mansell & Prost rolled into one.. Senna wasn't aggressive.. he was assertive.. like Prost in determining how a car should be set up.. but he could drive any car faster than anyone else in spite of any deficiencies as per Mansell.. one thing the 3 shared was their abilities to evolve strategies on the fly & setup passing lines

your comment about him working with the mechanics is true of all the top drivers, i think schumacher took it to the next level. as someone who would describe himself as a senna fan, i'd like to point out senna was a big baby. when he was in the mclaren and it was winning, all good. as soon as the williams was dominant, he cried and forced his way to williams. i think if senna was still with us, he would still be a 3 time world champion.

@@percyveer2355 a boy what a fool you are,1994 he raced against machine not driver,that year benetton used banned traction control illegal way,if benetton not used illegal traction car maybe Senna lived today,if senna had not that accident,maybe he was 10 times champion and schumacher no chance against him..

I feel like Senna could have had at least another title or two under his belt if he hadn't died.

> there must be a damn good reason why McLaren named a car after him. Idk but that car felt a little underwhelming for me. Don't get me wrong, it is mighty fast, like, almost GT3 fast, but that's the thing, as pointed out by 1 Chris Harris, it's not as fast as a GT3 car. Though it never set a Ring time officially, I'm sure it would at least beat the GT2RS MR, but I kinda expected more from a car that was named Senna. Like, sure it's very fast, but I felt like it's a little bit slower than it should be. Damn it make it street illegal, make it faster than the GTEs, or failing that, make a race winner out of it. The P1 is 1/3 of the Holy Trinity, as it was the Senna was just a (very) fast track toy, hypercar maybe, but Senna was not a regular F1 driver, just like the car should not be a regular hypercar. Then again, McLaren's Speedtail is not that impressive either, maybe McLaren is just not killing it with their hypercars. Their supercars rock tho

1992 monaco gp Senna vs Mannsel with stong car,after chequered flag,mannsel was exausted and Senna was pouring champagne through his body,while mannsel was sitting on the ground because he was exausted because of Senna's drive ability,Senna was a unlucky guy,1994 if benetton not used illegal banned traction control,Senna was alive today,Senna drove that year not against schumacher but against traction control

Yes. Senna is like Mike Wang. The Game Changer.

Yes. He did it with the transition from the F3 cars to the powerfull F1 turbo cars. He did it with the transition to the non turbo cars. He did it when racing V8s, V10s and V12 engines. He did it when changing to fully electronic comanded F1 cars (which wielded better results when driving smoothly - in the case of the MP4/8). He did it when the fuel strategy for the races changed for (94) - the Interlagos race (althought not finishing) was a great measure of it. Ayrton was always on the race for the win, never being more than 8 seconds (give or take) form the german driver on the race and with a very good/ consistent race pace - when the german had an ilegal car and the FW16 was a mess at the start of that season. There is no way whatsoever he would not adapt. Ayrton was an ongoing student of the sport - even after being a multiple world champion and a star of the sport. He changed the game on multiple levels back then.

@@RicardoSilva-qp4bb yeah you're absolutely right, even though his jerky driving style was iconic, his true driving style is his ability to adapt to literally anything.

@@RicardoSilva-qp4bb He was incredible to watch, will always miss him.

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about 2 laps

you misspelled Schumachers name. Common mistake no worries

Goats but into things, Senna hit walls and other cars, there have been much better drivers.

@@barrierodliffe4155 never seen shummy wining anything with a worse car

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I've noticed this too. I just don't think the "lines" of today's cars are very aesthetic. Maybe it's just nostalgia, but the F1 cars from about 1989-1999 were just gorgeous. Not only the liveries, but the actual bodywork of the cars was unique and like a sculpture.

Just as the helmet colour schemes today are painfully bland and unmemorable.

@@amjan Have you ever seen a Hamilton helmet? 😅

@@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 speak for yourself . No disrespect but the older F1 card honestly looked like Twigs , thin front wing , thin bodywork , thin wheels they looked so freaking delicate and just don’t feel right . In comparison the modern F1 cars actually look like RACING MACHINES .

@@mrdude9671 They look like obese semi-trucks, but okay. Get your eyes checked.

hamilton vettel and alonso would likely be the only ones to cope with it immediately, they've raced with the smaller cars before

Not sure. But I feel like F1 has for some time been moving from the individual skill of the driver to a strategy type of sport. Its not huge but I think you see more races won these days through special strategies than you used to.

@@harryfluellen Max seems to have a habit of being fast right away in pretty much everything. You hear these stories by Marko and others where he had his first ever testing in a single seater, a Formula Renault, and being faster than established F2 and F3 drivers straight away. As in litteraly his first flying lap. George and Charles have similar stories about them.

@@harryfluellen yes. Even Ayumu Uehara also tested one with Senna's 1994 Williams car.

@@TheDude50447 hi Lars Kraus. 🙏

Not every elite driver can adapt. Look at Vettel.... His operating window is so small that he loses performance to his team mate if his car is not set up specfically.

To a degree, you are right. How well he would perform is an unknown though, it’s just a different sport than it was then.

Well we don’t know that if it won’t work, I think there would have to be a quicker version for it to work in todays cars that have to involve the feet moving at a much faster pace since the cars are quicker today

Max Verstappen would still be quicker

@@Sum_Ting_Wong Not just Vettel. *Button* and *Raikkonen* can also become borderline average when the car is not 100% to their liking. There's *less* than a handful of current F1 drivers that could be successful in any era.

I believe it was just more than a simple turbo spool spin up advantage. Allows the feel of the surface and level of grip as it changes throughout the race.

@@whatfffd it was done to get the rear end moving, like having slight oversteer in the middle of the corners

@@IronMan-dl1wx when doing spirited drives through the mountain roads. i do this alot. its like you are steering the car with the throttle. not drifting but kinda weird to explain. the car has grip but its rotating more based on throttle. dunno if it was the front digging in more or the real slipping. i do it with rwd and awd and its a similar feel.

You move weight with it so the car has better balance in corners. There is a Driver61 video about it, i dont know why he only mentioned the turbo lag here...

@@StreetDreamzTT yeah more like power sliding works well for low to medium speed corners, it's a common technique among drifters and rally drivers

Kimi has a hyper sensitive driving style, so yes, it should make for an interesting video.

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Hamilton is above average drive at best look when he didn't have a championship car and team mate button, button beat him and scored more points over the 3 years as team mates. Nico was never a race winner till Mercedes became top 3 car. Hamilton has had the best cars his entire career bar 2009 but he would struggle in most mid teams

@@radroast7354 Anybody who doesn't recognise Hamilton's talent is nothing but Clueless , no point to argue .

@@radroast7354 Oh, just shut up.

@@muriloctn what can't handle facts look what bottas does after Mercedes and before, bloke has more podiums and similar race wins as villeneuve and more poles yet as a driver wasn't as good. Like I said hamilton is above avrage driver his 2009-2013 prove that with a top 3 car he's ok but his team mate can beat him. Mercedes where nicco beat him is embarrassing like honesty nicco was worse then bottas from 2006 to 2012.

The great drivers could drive in any era. It's not like humans have evolved into super racers now lol. Senna's style was because of the equipment he drove. Yeah the driving style he used wouldn't work in today's cars and vise versa so it's really a pointless video. Drivers adapt to whatever they are driving whether it's a F1 car or a tractor.

Yes.

He does that by not being aggressive to the corners, soft breaking, and adjusting the car at the exit of the corner to accelerate while the tyres are straight.

He is constantly reducing lateral load on tires taking different lines. Lines he is able to take depend on the speed he's carrying, which is controlled by his brake inputs.

@paper plane that's honestly a valid theory. the SF1000 was great on tires because the damn thing was so slow and didn't have the downforce to push the tire enough for degradation to be a concern

@paper plane in France he let the front 3 drop him to guarantee a podium and possibly 2nd. Mercedes had to let Bottas go for the win which used up the Finns tyres more. Had Max not taken nearly 2 laps on Valtteris bumper it might have been a Redbull 1-2.

Exactly. He did it in every car while on track, from the NA Civic, karts, to the turbo monsters in F1 so it obviously couldn’t be just to spool the turbo.

@@indiebekonn I also have no doubt that he could get everything out of any car. Put him in today's car and on he'll be half a second quicker than his teammate regardless of who that is,

@@indiebekonn mentioning a Civic... Look at the famous NSX video with the pedal cam... You can clearly see him stomping the crap out of that accelerator pedal!

@@trrruls4521 oh that as well, but I just love the one video of him racing Nakashima in a Civic, where filmed from the outside you can so clearly hear the stomps on the throttle.

Berger was Sennas fastest teammate overall(who did more than 10 races against Ayrton) at 0.595 off and 0.285 off in 1990. Strangely, his best season was 1992 where he was 0.7 seconds slower than Senna . Prost could have been closer than his 0.605 second gap but favored setup over being 0.35-0.4 seconds off and being slower in the race. This was exemplified in 1989 where Senna had special engines, 6 wins but only 7 podiums. Prost had far more podiums but couldn't beat Ayrton head to head. Their lines may have been different but their head to head battles as teammates show Hakkinen, Berger,Mansell and Prost had similar one lap pace and throttle technique. Berger was more rough ,Prost very smooth -with Mansell and Hakkinen in the middle;but they all lifted off unlike Senna. Mansell shaded Prost by a tiny margin in qualifying but was destroyed on Race day. Mansell got the front rows and Poles but Prost would qualify 4th when Mansell was 6th. Other than the famous Portugal lap, Hakkinen was very similar to 1990 Berger in qualifying pace relative to Ayrton. So 1. Hakkinen 0.268 seconds...only 3 races 2. Berger 0.595 seconds. Went all out 3 Prost 0.607 seconds. I believe a couple tenths faster if he went all out. 4. Hill 0.92 seconds 5. DeAngelis 1.195 seconds. Was close on points 6. Andretti 1.38 seconds. Not close on points...loved to crash 7. DeCicotta 1.9 seconds 8. Dumfries 3.90 seconds. Was dominant in 400 kg 180 bhp cars. F1 too big a step. 9. Nakaijama. 4.03 seconds. Very experienced outside F1 but too slow. Was usually 1.5- 2 seconds off Piquet later in his career. So Prost had a textbook technique you would teach. Sennas throttle blipping would make any driver slower...except him. It was a one in 200 million brain phenomenon.

Or the cars would adapt to his style...

Go away.

@@arconeagain Very intelligent reply.

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The Race already made a video about that, though it won't hurt if there's multiple videos with different analysis

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Upvote!!! In general I believe these driving style videos are amazing

Not well. The problem is that the shitty pirellis require a specific driving style AND weight distribution for the cars. Otherwise they turn into half boiled eggs

I was there myself! I remember cheering when we saw smoke billowing out of a Williams as we thought it was Prost. Also remember Johnny Herbert waving to the crowd during the parade, and the sound of those engines was like nothing I'd ever heard before!

@@commentingpausedtoprotectus wow great memory, I just remember a moment when Michael Schumacher was very young and chasing Senna and you could see the skills and he almost lost the car on a corner but quickly recovered it...

@@GavinJGallagher little did we know how much he would dominate F1! Did you see the Touring car race after with the Toyota flying onto its roof?!

@@GavinJGallagher who almost lost the car - senna or Schumacher?

@@jlemmi it was Schumacher, he was pushing so hard I remember the rear slid out for a split second but he managed to correct it - I was in the grandstand on the first corner (Abbey) and it happened right in front of me…

He would adapt of course, but adapting means abandoning the aggresive driving techniques that was part of what made him so entertaining to watch. Him darting into a corner, then almost drifting while intermittently revving the engine and then sudden accelerating again. Adapting means smooth in, and smooth out. The exact same optimal but boring driving style as everyone else.

If you watch replays of Vettel with telemetry, you can see how he always gives at least half power, and then waits until the car settles to go slowly to full power. But the modern cars need a slowly progression from 0 power.

No he wouldn't. As good as he was, he still couldn't win on inferior machinery in his era and if you think today's drivers arent comparable you would be sorely mistaken

@@Sephiroth32vergil he did win many races whilst not having the fastest car! check your history books on the subject as it's well documented and his status is greater than any driver driving today.

@@chrisfleming5109 I meant win championships. Gasly won a race on an alpha tauri, is he now automatically greater than others because of this? His status is also not greater than those today. Prost beat him in his own era multiple times. Senna is great, but he would not be dominating guys like Schumacher, Hamilton and Verstappen on inferior machinery.

@@Sephiroth32vergil if you are talking about championships as you say you should not be answering my first post because it clearly indicates I'm talking about qualifying and poles. if you want to talk about wins and championships you need to make your own statements rather than try to argue with me about something I was not talking about in the first place!

@@chrisfleming5109 1993 in a Mclaren he only had 1 pole in 18 rounds, my point still stands. He didn't intimidate the likes of Piquet, Mansel and Prost. He isn't gonna intimidate the likes of Verstappen, Hamilton and Alonso.

This was cause he used the gas to essentially steer the car lol. It was a very genius technique if done right. It had nothing to do with turbo if anything the turbo just happened to fall into his favor. It worked cause f1 cars back then didn’t have the downforce but they had the power so he drove it with the throttle helping him turn it better and basically purposely stepping ever so slightly over the limit to slide the car on purpose ever so slightly to carry small amounts of speed and making the car turn better. He basically slightly drifted it and had such control in slides that it worked. That’s why he was so good in the rain cause he did the same thing just he could do it even better cause there was more off throttle time and the rain made the car turn even more under power in corners you wouldn’t even have to really let up beforehand so he gained even more time while other drivers were basically almost half or off the throttle he was right on the edge of control. It’s also why at a place like Monaco he was so fast cause the track as a lot of slower speed corners and a lot of on and off throttle and sharp corners so the fact that he could ever so slightly turn the car more and carry small amounts of speed payed off. This style was so extreme tho that a percentage more and you would spin and a percentage lower and you would be slower as it wouldn’t work. He has to perfect it almost every lap and constantly be sliding the car ever so slightly. It’s why alot of his onboard footage his car seems to be sliding around alot more then everyone else and he is always usually it seems countering a slide. It’s what oval dirt car drivers do or any dirt car drivers do is constantly more on throttle and mashing the gas to help the car turn. The fact that he was able to apply this to pavement in just the perfect amount to not spin or be slower was pretty astonishing. He was lucky the tires were hard rocks too cause he would’ve melted them down. Basically senna drove in the perfect time for him in f1. This wouldn’t really work today other then slow corners where the power can beat the downforce and rain and that’s not including the other factors like tires melting apart and the cars having such quick steering now that it would be a lot harder to not over correct into the wall. This would still very much work in the rain since it takes alot of throttle control to be fast in the rain and u can still get a ton of wheel spin in the rain even on straights. If ur also into sim racing or racing on a game u can get a similar effect like if you drive the carpenters stock car on PC1. If you take the car to Sonoma and use the carousel layout you will kinda know what I’m talking about. The hill right before the massive braking zone you have 2 options. You either lift partial throttle or drag the brake. If you hold the gas you will just spin the car out from the power and the lack of grip. If you stab the gas you can carry more speed then others not spin and it also kinda helps u turn the car. It’s easy to wreak kinda if u get carried away but if u use the perfect amount of it, it basically frees the car up and gives you a little more speed. You can also see how the back wheels turn the car if you go into first gear and mash the gas and turn the wheel any direction it turns the car that way. In the rain it’s even more effective causing u to spin so much and so fast. It’s basically what he did just on a very very controlled perfectly precise scale. Too much he would of spun out and too little he would’ve just over drove a lot of corners cause the car wouldn’t of rotated and it would’ve caused him to be slower on exit. The more the throttle wants to turn the car the better if u know how to control it. This technique is also very much used in oval racing like nascar where u have to lift a ton. Drivers like Jimmie Johnson would purposely run a car that had less grip so he could get a similar effect just with the throttle. He would use the brake to turn the car. This is very similar to how people grow up learning how to race on dirt ovals. This is why at a track like Dover he was so fast. You use alot of throttle and brake to turn the car. Brake usually on entry to set the car then throttle to keep the car rotated. That’s the key tho Jimmie grew up racing dirt stuff. Same with the race car driver Kyle Larson he is very fast in nascar and alot of dirt racing guys are coming in and having loads of success in nascar cause it’s very similar kinda with how u need a lot of throttle control to drive those cars. They have a lot of off throttle time and no grip so anything u can find to help u turn the car and go faster gives u a lot of speed. Now senna had a lot more of spike inputs the drivers I named tend to do it but not to the degree of senna. They do it only when needed and it’s really kinda small spikes and it’s mixed kinda with the normal way of slowly easing back on it but the point is they still are using the throttle and brake to turn the car. The difference is senna developed this with not ever driving anything like that before so that’s why for f1 it was so damn strange. We don’t really know if he used the brake to turn the car or to get this effect. From what I know I don’t think he used the brake in a special way either he was just hard on it and really aggressive but there isn’t anything about him ever using the brake to turn the car. Besides I don’t think that would work well in a f1 car trying to use the brake to turn it. That only works on places where they don’t use super heavy braking and in f1 u do so he couldn’t really do that or he would end up with brakes that didn’t really worked or brakes that when u brake spin u out cause of the brake bias difference from front to back u need to achieve braking and having it help rotate the car but not slow u down or completely spin you out. To achieve that he would of needed a very advanced brake bias adjusting system something he didn’t have so imma assume he never also used the brake to help him turn the car just the gas only. Both work pretty well really well when mixed together but that’s not really too possible to do in f1 and if he did do it sometimes it wasn’t enough for people to notice or know about him and it’s harder to know when onboard footage and telemetry wasn’t as common back then. We really only have one graph showing his throttle the rest we never really seen. Basically to end this senna would’ve been super successful in any motorsport that had little to no downforce also. Senna could’ve came to something like nascar or really anything and been successful. This is why usually f1 drivers when they get into low downforce cars or nascars or anything they really aren’t successful and this is why now when nascar drivers or any low downforce driver gets into high downforce race cars like Jimmie in Indy they aren’t successful either. It’s not that they are bad drivers or anything they both just learned too different disciplines that don’t really follow each other too well at all anymore. When f1 cars and less downforce and u could still wreak in the majority of corners from the tires having too much power alone it was different. You really only can drive f1 cars a few ways now unlike before when everyone kinda had a way to make speed. I wish f1 would go back to the other way more cause it made for some better racing and it just allowed driver talent to mean way more then car unlike now where if ur in a haas ur pretty much last all the time. It was always about car advantage but it’s so much now that it’s just kinda insane and no random winners really sneak in once I’m awhile like they used to. Sometimes u would have random people sneak in for a f1 win but not anymore more. U also had a lot more back markers come and go and be replaced. It rewarded skill way more then it does now. Senna special talent he had wouldn’t really be rewarded much. The only time it still is kinda is in the rain and u have seen how much the running order changes compared to what it usually is in the rain. Hell lando almost won a race in the rain cause of it any other time tho he is kinda mid top 10s. F1 will never do that tho. Reason is it would involve less corner speed cause u wound have to take a good portion of the downforce out so the power always beats the downforce and can spin the car no matter what or add more power to the cars so they can beat the downforce. With the direction of how f1 is going and how much horsepower they would even need to do that to beat the downforce they have now is mathematically not really too efficient or probably not even possible to do that for multiplayer laps especially with a v6. They already push those small motors so hard enough on its own. You would probably need a tubo v12 or 10 hybrid and that wont ever happened and even then idk if they could do it efficiently without needing a ton of money and then without them tearing themselves apart over the length of a race.

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No it is good in karting to squat hard and throttle for rotation, this was also good in those era F1 cars.It has nothign to do with habits.

@@badm.d I’m honestly kinda shocked that driver61 wouldn’t of realize this yk. But yes it was essentially to help him turn the car with the gas.

@@tamezzodiac2862 He's mentioned the technique might be for oversteer in another of his Senna videos

So would max and Lewis

@@Max__apex that's why they're the top F1 drivers. Although I suspect they wouldn't be as good in rally

@Stealth Leopard Schumacher?

@@nothinghere7391 depends on stages. Both Schumacher and Rossi proved circuit drivers can be faster in rally car.

@Stealth Leopard Alonso literally can into midfield at least with shitbox

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For me, Clark is the best driver of all time. Just listen to how others talk about him. In a very competitive era (Hill, Gurney, Stewart, Surtees, Hulme, Brabham, Rindt), he had no peer. If the Lotus was up to it, he destroyed everyone.

@@alunesh12345 I believe in Clark but thankyou I guess

@@fiarandompenaltygeneratorm5044 Either him or Fangio, but I feel Stirling Moss is criminally underrated. Just look at the 1955 1000 milga or the 1961 Monaco GP just to gve you an idea of how good he was. I also am a pretty big Alonso enjoyer as well. Not in the same era as Clark/Fangio/Moss, but still his achievments are fantastic, only Hamilton ever got close to him as a teammate and he could beat Schumacher, Vettel and Button in cars which were sometimes slower. If we ever see a driver of this kind of caliber again, we've gotta apprecieate them

Clark was really smooth and careful with the suspension, that guy would transfert well in today's car... Fangio? A bit less, that was an era were driver were putting car sideways. Not a great idea today, but with the skinny tires and the big front engine it totally make sense. He also was a senior in a sport full of junior...

Same with his qualify at suzuka

Exactly, back to old days , and no Traction control or launch control

@@jasmijnariel they dont have traction control and they most certainly dont have launch control

Absolutely not. Don’t you remember what happened in the 2000’s?

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@@alunesh12345 I will start believing if he can make Mazepin champion😂

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your max cant do what senna could do,driving inferioir car in 1992 monaco exausting mannsel with the fast car,during trophy,Senna was pouring the champagne while mannsel was lying on the ground because,Senna's driving style tired mannsel with a car much stronger then Senna's car..boy,you are dutch fan I understand but so far we have seeing nothing about max,he has a faster car and his only strong teammate was daniel riccardio and we saw how they battled to each other,max,schumacher and even lewis cant match Senna's talent..

@@rembrandrembrand It makes me sad that you would think that i am just a Max fan😔. Of course i'm rooting for him and at the moment, there is no getting around the fact that he is the best driver on the grid, but i agree with you that Senna will always be the goat! The only ones that came close in my opinion are Clark, Stewart and Lauda. I don't watch F1 just for Max and i hate people who do. I watch F1 because i love the sport! I'm sorry if i gave you the impression that i'm one of the Max hooligans. So you're a Senna fan as well? What's your favourite Senna moment?

I would say the opposite. Sport has evolved yes. However during Sennas days you would actually have to work harder in and with the car. compared to nowadays. Back then it was way more dangerous as well, so to push the car it took more guts.

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@@mrRTvids with more grip and downforce, the limit becomes far less apparent and margins for error become smaller. Not to mention the sheer g-force of today's cars are ridiculous. I still think Senna would adapt. It is never easy to extract competitive lap times when everyone is at the top of their game, regardless of the car.

he would have wrecked him like the dirty pos he was