It is a line that has reverberations throughout the first three books. I believe they say it in book one, and allude to it and reference all the way through Children of Dune at least.

I was so sad when the Baron survived the attack, although im guessing it was intentional to tug at our heartstrings, and it executed that marvelously

The scene does happen in the book. The difference is it isn't Gurney's footstep's Paul recognizes, it's Thufir Hawat's. In the book Thufir wasn't only Duke Leto's mentat but also his master of Assassins, he was the one to tell Paul not to sit with his back to any doors. In the movie however, he is just a mentat, that's why it's Gurney who tells him this wisdom and remprimands Paul for carelessness.

I've read the books only after watching the movie. I was mesmerized by the film from the start and felt the desire to continue watching when the end credits rolled. I watched it two more times in the following weeks. 😅

@@Sturzfaktor2 I feel u. The performances, visuals and especially the ost make this movie so addicting.

Omg it was two and a half hours!? I watched dune without knowing that and it didn’t feel like it at all. I wanted it to never end 😭

I knew little of dune but had heard a lot about it. I really got the atmosphere of it and it was mesmerizing

If only the dinner scene made it into the film. Paul really shows off his capabilities as a leader there

Hmmm. True...

Percival i tak zapewne nie chciałby być kojarzony z tą słabą produkcją. Jedynie Geralt, Jaskier i Ciri jakoś podtrzymują ten serial a reszta to dno

Actually started a modded playthough of W3 on the streaming page. To relive the game and update the graphics. Definitely took me back.

@@AFlyingWalrus Oooh nice, I think I might drop in there for a while 🙂 thanks!

@@AFlyingWalrus Showrunner really hated source material. Season 2 is a disaster. Not a thing makes sense. Would be good to see your review of Witcher trilogy games. There is a four part of Witcher games but events are so distant from times in which Geralt live that I don't see it as a direct continuation. Rather a new series that occur in that universum

@@AFlyingWalrus Not only CD Projekt Red is not an only great Polish game studio, 11bit made some very good games such as Frostpunk and This War of Mine (a game in which you play as a civilian trying to survive in dreary war reality).

Oh ueah and arrival, it also had his signature feel

yes! came to say this exactly, they added this along the old friendship between them to deepen those conflicting feelings in the end

It still misses the point of the original. It is a crucial part that the Bruxa used Nivelan, kind of a red flag in a relationship, so he turned on her. And yet she truly loved him to the bitter end, making it a real twist of the dagger. I mean the guy chose a cursed existence outside of society for love's sake, and thought it was a lie. In the series he was kind of complicit in the murders by housing the murderer, so storywise they NEEDED him and Geralt being long time friends, otherwise why save some random Witcher over the person he loves?

Considering the show runners of Witcher made a public statement about how they don’t care for the fantasy genre at all and a big portion of Denis’s directorial portfolio is sci-fi, the quality difference of the two are leagues different just with that in mind.

It really does feel like at times Geralt and Jasker/Dandelion are the only ones who care. (By that I mean Henry and Joey Batey)

Its interesting to me how many people found this confusing. Not saying couldn't have done better job but I think audiences have become so passive in viewing over years. To be fair most people watching tele is there to relax and be entertain not think. But personal I hate how much hand holding is done in everything that audience really does feel like be treated like children when have to exposition everything all the time.

@@abc123tiktok I mean I understood it,but from other people I've talked to,they all agree this should have been the case.Maybe it breaks the imersion to add a bottom text,but I think they should have done it for at least the first episode bc you lose a lot of information until you realize what is going on.I agree,a lot of movies are very dumbed down and I hate it,but in this case it was somewhat necessary imo

@@poorunfortunatesoul8610 I could be wrong but maybe creators did this as creative choice on purpose to give us that big surprise different time lines that eventually intersect. I am probably more forgiving because it is TV show that is expecting people to rewatch it. So when you come back second time around you do understand it more and appreciate it with more insight. If it was a movie wouldn't be as forgiving because stories usually self contain and if they failed to explain it properly at all would get more grief for just bad writing.

Knowing how Villenueve likes to construct his scenes, Kynes' book death probably would've last a good five minutes at least of him just wandering about with his monologue, so changing it was a positive decision on virtually every level for an adaptation

True. But universum is not immersing and doesn't feel real. Kingdoms polictics was badly written, promiscuity promoted. The whole piece feels like fanfiction Sapkowski's books

In the books we find out about the reason of the curse fairly early. Nivellen is ashamed of his past and of the actions he made. And is a big part of why he's ok with remaining a monster, because he tells Geralt he has commited a monsterous act. But they that's juxtaposed against the man he is when Geralt meets him is is now a completely different person. Wanted to say all that in the video, but sometimes things get cut due to length or video pacing

Sad thing is the witcher showrunners had to read the books but they missed the point and decided that they can make it better.

What gets me is that there's nothing inherently wrong with altering a book story for television or film (my fav example is Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust, in which they gave a lot of side characters more agency than they had in the book, in addition to... removing a bunch of incest and rape that added nothing to the story and would've been unwelcome by the time the movie came out) but so many times have revisions been made that weren't needed, all seemingly because the writers or director just thought that they could improve it but didn't seem to have a reason to improve those elements. Disclaimer, it's been YEARS since I've read the Witcher books, but from what I recall they started off almost episodically, introducing a drip feed of returning characters (Ciri, Yen, Jaskier, etc.) and overarching narrative but primarily focusing on smaller self-contained stories with one-shot characters that would never return in order to show you who Geralt is and what the world is like. I think trying to do a show in the same way wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea... in the hands of a competent director/writer. It could really serve as a nice way to give the audience a window into the wider world and lore of the universe before jumping into heavy plot points like destiny and fate and even the war with Nilfgaard. But I think the writers/director didn't think they could tackle it, or maybe thought the show NEEDED to be set up that way from day one, hence that awful plot with the Voleth Meir/Baba Yaga for no reason, the altering of Yennefer's character to serve that narrative, so on and so forth. Funny, though, as so many people I've shown to who had no knowledge of the books ended up really confused by the way everything was presented, especially in the first season.

I can say for certain the showrunner has read the books, whether she has understood them in the same way is certainly up for debate of course!

You should watch Children of Dune, it was a 3 part mini-series made by sci-fi channel. It covers Messiah and Children of Dune. For its budget i would say it was excellent. Thats what got me into Dune in the first place.

@@michaelharipersad9882 Loved that adaption, the sci-fi mini-series Dune and then Children of Dune was great and i rewatched it a few times.

Yeahhhh

Hey an open minded individual on the internet? That's not allowed? In all seriousness hope you enjoyed the video. (I also still like the show, but am just jilted by the missed potential.)

Not mine. It’s not the handicap you might expect, however.

given what they did to eskel, youre opinion is probably not going to change

@@tailsofpearls I reckon you're absolutely correct.

Yeah the adaptational quality jumps off of a cliff after the season's first episode in the most infuriating ways

I thought the quality was about the same, but I never read the books so I couldn't get mad at how they apparently made everything up.

yea the world of the witcher in netflix felt....off. Like a fanfiction. Especially the casting of triss merigold and fringillia. Forced diversity in an adoption will make things look cheap. For dune it makes sense, because the writer mention multiple different races, so it's fine if there's a bit of race swaping there. But in the witcher universe? the author explicitly described all the character's appearances and the netflix adaption failed at it.

An adaptation can have nothing in common with source material accept for title. Amazon's Rings of Power and Netflix Winx Saga prove that.

True

Frankly most of Netflix game adaptations suck Arcane is perhaps the only case in which they did it right even better than game lore itself

Well now it's, Was the best thing and only good thing about it

@@AFlyingWalrus True.

I was both sad and left feeling incredibly vindicated when I heard he was leaving the show. And honestly good on him. It's not his responsibility to be the authenticity police on set daily. It does make me sad however since we probably won't see an honest attempt at a Witcher series or films in our lifetime now.

It will be telling how the final parts are handled as Paul is set up to be a "Savior" in the first half of the book but moving forward from then on it plays with the idea of a tyrannical savior. One that brings about great change at great cost. Tries to rebuke his own teachings and becomes someone that fights against the very symbol that he created. It's a very nuanced story that I have faith in Villeneuve to tell.

@@AFlyingWalrus I feel like in the book it's very clear early on that the only reason people see him as a savior to begin with is because of millennia of religious manipulation that came before it, but it's hard to say in hindsight when this became clear to most readers as the work was misinterpreted a lot (and gained a lot of criticism when the sequels made it even clearer). Speaking of dads who like the book though, my dad is of that age where he grew up with the books and loved them, and I've never seen him so mad at a movie before. He loathed it because he felt like it was dumbed down, more about the spectacle than the politics and manipulation. I'm sure that coloured my opinion of the movie as well, especially since I didn't feel strongly about IP itself other than that I found it a bit obvious with what it preached coming from a non-religious household.

Never heard of it, I'll have to give it a watch.

I almost used that episode, but it made more sense to do both season openers

😞 I wish I couldn’t see it coming.

​@@AFlyingWalrusBut there was also Polish series Hexer from 2002. It also had some absurds but the story overall made sense

Monetarily yes, but it has its shortcomings when it comes to writing.

I have yet to see a Denis film I have not liked. Mainly because you can feel his passion in his work.

That's because the movie is directed by Sergio Pablos, who did the animation on Dr Doppler. That's why he looks like Jesper's fursona

There is such a thing as succeeding financially but failing to portray the story of how the characters work their way into the story, all the while managing to essentially portray the overall narrative. The thing is when you fail to tell the story of how the characters factor in, how they develop the story and how it develops them, the overall narrative starts to deflate due to things just seemingly becoming disconnected despite how all these things tie into each other through the whole arc of the story. You can't focus on developing narrative or characters, you have to work them into each other with how they progress the story and the world they occupy

Games were just better

I would honestly not mind a campy Witcher show, lean into it, have fun with it. Almost as if it was a page from "half a century of poetry." (Dandelions recounting of their adventures) Except... The show want you to take it seriously as evidenced in the tone, the gore, nudity, subject mattet, and how the character hold and carry themselves. But it lacks the nuance and depth of the original writing and doesn't supply any more value to the story. (IE, making a change to shorten the story that makes sense and has a similar outcome. Kine's death, Yu's dialogue to the baron for example) It just hurts becasue I can see the potential, and it's so close, but just fumbles it at the last possible moment.

@@AFlyingWalrus Dandelions recounting of their adventures would be sooooo much fun! And yeah, why try to be so serious. Like, everyone wants to be GoT.. even the new GoT show :D

@@AFlyingWalrus My exact thoughts

PNW. Won't say where for obvious privacy reasons.

@@AFlyingWalrus oh… you too? Which side of the border?

Do it. It's absolutely spectacular I had no idea what was going on half the time and I still loved it Make sure you either watch it with surround sound or headphones, it's ESSENTIAL Also that movie gets DARK (in terms of lighting), so watch it at night

It isn't as good as Witcher games and books

I have read through the Witcher book series 3 times. Hence why I compared the show to the book series. My disappointment with the show came with how disjointed the character motivations are in the series which stems from missing the point of the original stories.

Not an argument. Money silenced Andrzej Sapkowski. You can watch videos on YT with him greatly flattering Netflix series. Yet in his interview on Italian Luca Comics Con 2019 he said he doesn't care what will be done with heroes from Witcher books. So he probably cares only as much as they give him for copyright. Netflix is criminal because these series are national treasure. Guys from CD Projekt Red for Witcher games were awarded with Badge of White Eagle.

True Percival is a good band. It would not take part in ruining national treasure the Witcher series is. Not even for milion dollars

@@karolinakuc4783 thanl god they didnt

Yeah... I was that kid. You know the one.

@@AFlyingWalrus but was it because of school or just a pure out hobby? in middle school i couldn't even read white fang in french 😭 (i went to a french school)

Hobby. I was the quiet nerdy video game playing theater kid that danced instead of playing sports. So I read a lot as a hobby. Starting in middle school and continuing on till today.

@@AFlyingWalrus it's cool. I was that kid too

@@AFlyingWalrus I started halfway through primary school, thanks in no small part to my awesome literature teacher who created a book club for us. Found the first chapter of The Hobbit in my textbook, and off I went.

I don't think you would. The series doesn't stand on its own too much plotholes and costumes are ugly.

Primo, I actually have a stronger connection to The Witcher. Secundo, I enjoy parts of the show, mainly Geralt, Jasker/Dandelion/the banter. Tercio, I feel like Dune kept the heart and spirit of the original story better than the Witcher. But believe what you want.

I wasn't hoping for shot for shot. But I was hoping that the main point of the story wouldn't be lost in adaptation. For instance, just have a thug mention Tridam, have Marilka comment on, "That nasty lot is from Tridam." Geralt: "Hmm?" Marilka: "Didn't you know? They murdered a whole village just to get the Noble to come out of castle last year." Geralt: "hmmm. The Market.... Fuck...." So long as we know why the action is happening the audience doesn't feel cheated on the conclusion. The rest of the adaptation could have changed, and I would have pretty much been ok with it.

For the last time, so many fans don't vibe with it not because it's different but because it's worse. I see so many people who enjoyed the show (which, good for you) arbitrarily project this "oh you just didn't like it because it's not identical to the books" strawman notion on people who didn't to avoid engaging with their criticisms of it and at this point it's not even funny. What is even the point of an identical adaptation and why would anyone want it if it isn't going to do anything new? As a book fan I wanted Netflix to at least vaguely stick to the original story and characterization, sure, but I also wanted them to create new interesting things to go along with the old, delve into characters who didn't get as much focus in the books, explore the themes from a new angle... And what did we end up getting? Characterization that didn't feel like it recontextualizes the characters I love so much as it is replacing them with different people, emotionally resonant character arcs that made me so invested in these characters getting axed because they no longer make sense for them (or they do, but the writers decided to write them out anyways lol), clumsy and shallow dialogue (especially in S2) that doesn't communicate even a sliver of the source material's charm and eloquence, teenage boys' humor that treats cursing like it's a joke in and of itself replacing the books' witty and wonderful banter and a plot that discards a good 80% of the original storyline it's an adaptation of in favor of what felt like an excruciatingly long semi-minor video game quest. And don't get me started on how they handle themes. So many parts of the books so far with overt or subtle explorations of racism that flesh out race dynamics were completely discarded (such as the Yarpen Zigrin chapter in BoE), instead we got an entirely original, in-your-face storyline with Franchesca Findabair literally murdering human babies for shock value lmao. It's a show that feels insecure. Like it's trying too hard to prove its mettle by being different while simultaneously failing at being anywhere near good as the source material. And this is why we didn't enjoy it. None of that "you hate it because it's different" nonsense.

I, Robot, Starship Troopers, Bladerunner, and many more adaptations serve as great examples of movies that fail in adapting the source faithfully, but are still well-liked for the quality of their storytelling (or characters, or whatever else). While there are people that dislike some or all of these as adaptations, they're largely appreciated, something that can't be said of Witcher. "You just don't like it because it's different!" isn't an adequate excuse for inferior storytelling

From a writing standpoint in certain aspects when it comes to adapting a source material.