Why F1's New Front Wing Is GENIUS

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It turns out, this 2022 F1 car is as confusing at the front as it is at the rear.
Usually, front wings are incredibly complex, with strakes, planes and all sorts of bits all over them. So how come this new one is so different?
Let's dive into it.
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The design for this wing not only creates less wake for the car behind - but actually loses them less downforce if they do catch some dirty air.
By simplifying the wing, there are fewer surfaces that require really clean air to work. The simplified planes are actually more reliable at creating downforce - even if the airflow isn’t perfectly laminar.
And it really seems like this should make for closer racing. Research shows that current F1 cars lose 35% of their downforce when running three car lengths behind another car, and this loss could be reduced to just 4% in 2022.
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 600
@Driver61
@Driver61 2 роки тому
So what do you think? Do you like the new look? Also, don't forget to check out Concepte - the iPad app we use for our drawings - concepts.app/driver61
@xddanijel1520
@xddanijel1520 2 роки тому
I love it
@clangmotorsports2697
@clangmotorsports2697 2 роки тому
It’s looks ok… but it’s for better racing
@dabkiller_1280
@dabkiller_1280 2 роки тому
looks very nice
@GSpinsOnTrack
@GSpinsOnTrack 2 роки тому
i personally think its excellent we have a major exterior change
@tyrrell0076
@tyrrell0076 2 роки тому
Definetly NOT, i really hate the shape of the new nose cone and wing, way too long too wide and weird shape
@louischim2000
@louischim2000 2 роки тому
would be interesting to hear your take on the wingless Peugeot 9X8 Le Mans
@batista9419
@batista9419 2 роки тому
Kyle engineers has an amazing review of that car, highly recommend watching it and the whole channel overall
@laurean5998
@laurean5998 2 роки тому
It's wingless because the rules don't allow good aerodynamics. They just went for a different look, it is not a choice made for performance. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/apR3hqGWZ2ajl6s.html
@louischim2000
@louischim2000 2 роки тому
@@batista9419 yea I seen his videos, I'm more curious on how Scott will explain it.
@TinyBearTim
@TinyBearTim 2 роки тому
It’s just ground effect
@JustusKuroVT
@JustusKuroVT 2 роки тому
Thats final? I thought thats just kinda like the road car version. Kinda like the Toyota GR010 road car version
@aavvv_
@aavvv_ 2 роки тому
Seidl: Cars need to be 2 seconds faster to overtake Alonso: Not on my watch
@Charles-fc9gi
@Charles-fc9gi 2 роки тому
According to Hamilton, the 2 seconds are a yoke. You need much more!
@gabormiklay9209
@gabormiklay9209 2 роки тому
It also depends on the track. The Hungaroring requires at least 3 secs. At Silverstone 2 can be enough.
@pi_za8214
@pi_za8214 2 роки тому
@@gabormiklay9209 how much for monaco? (If you know)
@gabormiklay9209
@gabormiklay9209 2 роки тому
@@pi_za8214 We don't have that unit yet, so I cannot answer the question! 😉 Monaco really is impossible. Just remember Danni Ric in 2018. He could easily keep his lead with ERS problems from the half of the race. How much disadvantage could that be on a lap? 5-6 secs?
@cr1mzn_
@cr1mzn_ 2 роки тому
@@pi_za8214 even if you're lightyears ahead, you won't. Unless you're so fast you're back into the '80s, where the cars are shorter and narrower with less dirty air generated :v
@OatmealCreamPie
@OatmealCreamPie 2 роки тому
The front wings look...complete, like it's the natural progression of F1 Front Wing Design, and doesn't look like an "over-engineered add-on" to the car.
@andreashabeck1155
@andreashabeck1155 2 роки тому
Lets see what the the teams come up with
@foffeboy7866
@foffeboy7866 2 роки тому
finaly someone who thinks the same way i do
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 2 роки тому
It's standardised and of course it's not overengineered. It can't be, by design.
@chiyolate
@chiyolate 2 роки тому
Yes, current front wings looks like child projects with lots of bits taped here and there
@Dia1Up
@Dia1Up 2 роки тому
I'm also pretty sure the swept back shape is only there to look cool heh
@paddyneill1964
@paddyneill1964 2 роки тому
All I know is that as a metal fabricator (I help build boat trailers) the 2022 F1 car is going to make building models of them easier. My hobby is making model vehicles (from Skid-loaders to F1 cars 😎) out of the scraps from the fenders I build at work. Fabrication/Assembly will be a lot easier now 😉
@eduardoprisbrey9157
@eduardoprisbrey9157 2 роки тому
That's sick can you make i link to some pictures of the models?... I wanna see em!!!
@dangermouse3619
@dangermouse3619 2 роки тому
It's going to be interesting with those wheel wings when it's time for tyre changes. Added pressure for the wheel technician to swap those wheels spot on and not hit the wing.
@maticsajovic3142
@maticsajovic3142 2 роки тому
The way these guys practice pit stops to perfection, i dont thing it will be a problem
@sn31t33
@sn31t33 2 роки тому
Even when they hit it, there is nothing to worry about. Bet you can slap that wing flathand
@danieloutzen9802
@danieloutzen9802 2 роки тому
@@sn31t33 You could probably stand on it without a problem
@mohit_panjwani
@mohit_panjwani 2 роки тому
Dude, the wing deals with literal tons of downforce, I think it'll be fine
@almarma
@almarma 2 роки тому
@@danieloutzen9802 I don't think the original message was concern about breaking the winglet, or even puncturing the tire. I would be concerned about the time lost: if you are the mechanic in charge of putting in the new wheel and you fail by a few centimeters, hitting the winglet could unbalance the wheel and it wont sit in place properly, making the team loose a few tenths of a second which can be crucial on a tight race.
@Chuck59ish
@Chuck59ish 2 роки тому
Back in the late 70s when F1 banned ground effects, they caused this problem and it's taken almost 40 years for F1 to come to their senses and go back to ground effects. The big problem will be on street circuits with the manhole cover pooping up when the welds fail and hopefully the manhole won't take a driver or drivers out of the race.
@rheonate
@rheonate 2 роки тому
Russell now has Baku 2019 PTSD attacks thanks to your comment
@juliahenriques210
@juliahenriques210 2 роки тому
It will happen with curbs, too. It's inevitable. They'll just have to stay away from track limits for good. Let's hope Max can adapt.
@Shaun.Stephens
@Shaun.Stephens 2 роки тому
Manhole covers pooping? I don't know what to make of that.
@desk-kun
@desk-kun 2 роки тому
@@Shaun.Stephens reminds me of a Malaysian GP back then when a storm drain cover caused damage to Grojean
@therrydicule
@therrydicule 2 роки тому
1981 and 1983 that they ban ground effects. And... We need to keep in mind the entire composition and gestalt of the car. These F1 turbo ground effects of the 1980s had porposing. This is the behavior that usually used to describe boats, and I am not kidding: the car was raking up and down, and the suspension springs can be uncompressed and overcompressed in a few seconds. That effect was particularly violent. Mario Andretti infamously left F1 in parts because of that behavior. Today we got vents.
@thedeamonmeteor69420
@thedeamonmeteor69420 2 роки тому
So, does that mean cars can run on track with enough downforce even after a front wing damage?
@maticsajovic3142
@maticsajovic3142 2 роки тому
This will be interesting to see. Cant wait for the next season.
@dv1k
@dv1k 2 роки тому
I mean they tested without a front wing so yeah
@AbrahamArthemius
@AbrahamArthemius 2 роки тому
Well, you can see how ground effect cars from the early 80s have a very small front wing relative to its overall car package, some cars doesn't even use a front wing like the 1982 Brabham.
@KirbyCharkra
@KirbyCharkra 2 роки тому
If there is less consequence from a damaged front wing, perhaps one team will design a wheel popper as part of their front wing... 🤔.
@mini696
@mini696 2 роки тому
No
@saipradeepkonda5700
@saipradeepkonda5700 2 роки тому
I love how the 2022 car looks.
@marcetlon2829
@marcetlon2829 2 роки тому
Lie...
@turklinke6159
@turklinke6159 2 роки тому
WTf no it looks like a fucking spaceship its so cool
@poochihead
@poochihead 2 роки тому
At the end of the day we will all get used to it and love it
@honeybadger0562
@honeybadger0562 2 роки тому
If they removed covered wheels I’d be fine with it
@aawwmm
@aawwmm 2 роки тому
Just fyi I also saw the intended look of 2014 and it was insanely good looking as well. The real cara had the dick noses and generally looked much worse.
@don-dspid2404
@don-dspid2404 2 роки тому
I'm hoping you do a video on the bottom of the car and its changes. Those changes are so critical to the 2022 car's performance, but we haven't heard it in a lot of detail yet.
@Standaardnaam
@Standaardnaam 2 роки тому
What frustrates me about these videos is that you show these great visuals of airflow heatmaps from simulations and such, but don't explain them at all, or use them to visualize your points. They just flash by, like the text has been written without visuals in mind and they are just added in later. Good explainer videos use the format to its strength, by making the narration and visuals work together. You say you want to outgrow Chain Bear (at least I assume you are referring to him), and you have advantages like actual racing experience, but there's still quite a gap in the quality and use of the format. I hope you can improve on this front!
@suckieduckie
@suckieduckie 2 роки тому
To be fair, he did do that on the part about vortexes. I agree in general though.
@erikr968
@erikr968 2 роки тому
Good explanation! I'm looking forward to see what the cars will actually look like after the teams have found all the loopholes in the rules. I'm guessing they will be very different from the prototype.
@jasonmames5329
@jasonmames5329 2 роки тому
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!! So much useful information from someone that is actually a racer.. keep growing my dude, keep the videos coming!
@georgevinten2698
@georgevinten2698 2 роки тому
Love these videos and how much detail you go into👊🏻
@postRMO
@postRMO 2 роки тому
Proud to watch you grow this channel mate. Properly quality content.
@kombasanpracka
@kombasanpracka 2 роки тому
Actually those wings don't look weird, rather beautiful. Finally a fantastic looking F1 car.
@arry5432
@arry5432 2 роки тому
That flat plate looks horrendous imo. The wing and endplate looks cool though.
@YaaSalty...0_o
@YaaSalty...0_o 2 роки тому
Super happy to help! You guys definitely make amazing content! I hope you reach your goal of being the number one biggest independently owned Motorsport UKposts channel!❤👍
@TheEvertw
@TheEvertw 2 роки тому
You are amazing at explaining these extremely complex issues!
@Ruylopez778
@Ruylopez778 2 роки тому
Given how F1 aero has looked for the last 20 years with flat edges and sharp creases, I can't see any designer actually making a car that looks like the Liberty 2022 concept. The current Ferrari being a prime example - they could made the nose more curvy if they wanted to, like Mercedes, but they clearly don't want to. It's not like the designers will forget they like outwash either. They will still all focus on maximum performance in clear air, not compromising, because the tyres are still going to be shit in '22.
@timothystamm3200
@timothystamm3200 2 роки тому
But they also have ground effect. They wanted all of that because they needed over body down force. If they're allowed to manipulate air into the venturi tunnels you might see quite the opposite philosophy of wanting to suck as much air to the floor as possible because ground effect is more efficient. Afterall, there are still turns that the old skirt ground effect cars can take faster than the modern cars. Also the intention of the rules are to eliminate dirty outwash, therefore if someone manages to do it anyway, then whatever parts they used to do it will be banned once they're caught. Assuming they'd be stupid enough to ignore ground effect and try that though.
@Ruylopez778
@Ruylopez778 2 роки тому
@@timothystamm3200 Isn't the principle of outwash to minimise the impact on the front tyres, help seal the floor, and tidy up the air over the surfaces? Won't all of those things still apply? Won't there still be a benefit in tidying up the air before it reaches the front wheels and how it impacts the other surfaces all the way to the rear wing? Sure, they can decide to ban anything they don't like, but my point wasn't that they can't ban things. My point was the the cars won't look like what Liberty is pretending they will look like. It will also take them a while to analyse what each team is doing and how, before they can know what to ban. The AM Valkyrie has huge venturi tunnels. It still has lots of creases and flat surfaces, because that's the direction that aero has gone in, hence I am highly skeptical of the the Liberty 2022 design.
@timothystamm3200
@timothystamm3200 2 роки тому
@@Ruylopez778 there shouldn't be as much tire squirt because they are covering the wheels, that and one of the uses for the vortexes they were generating was to send along the sides of the floor to act like a physical skirt, now they have actual skirts. Lastly, it depends on how specific they were about the form of the car. If those curves were mandated and described in the rules and not just an example of what can be done in the rules then you will see them. Also, the thing I think you're more likely to see is the teams trying to get around how the nose curves down because they'd want as much air going under the wing and nose as possible. Finally, if the ground effect is giving them enough down force I don't know why they wouldn't want to smooth out the rest of the car to reduce drag.
@Ruylopez778
@Ruylopez778 2 роки тому
@@timothystamm3200 I don't think the nose will look like Liberty is implying. I think there will be more sharp edges and straight lines than the Liberty design all over the car. It's not about venturi or no venturi, it's about basic aero design on modern cars. I'm not saying they won't do things differently with the new regulations - they might well do that. But I suspect they will still find ways to move the air how they want to. If they can find ways to make an extra 5% downforce on the front and 5% on the back, without creating more drag, they will do it. Having the 'ground effect' doesn't mean that they don't want to optimise other areas that give them two tenths of a second per lap in extra downforce. Look at how the FIA changed the front design regulations before, and teams started making hollow channels in the end plates to control the air. Or how they started playing with the wing mirrors as aero devices. I'm sure the teams have ways to work the wheel deflectors in a way the FIA haven't thought of. McLaren also came up with a diffuser idea for this season that was a work around on the regulations. I hope the cars are more in the current style (without the aero, or length they have now, of course) than the 2022 concept. It looks like a concept car that will never be made - Toyota Supra springs to mind.
@timothystamm3200
@timothystamm3200 2 роки тому
@@Ruylopez778 Alright maybe I wasn't being clear, there is a point where the grip of the car allows for more g force in turns than what the driver's body can handle. We already know we can do that with a fan car without much in the way of overbody aero, and underfloor ground effect isn't that far off. If they get anywhere close to numbers like that then there is no reason to not smooth out the rest of the car to improve straight line speed. Yes they might be able to get more out of the rules if the rules were sloppy but that doesn't mean they should. If the underbody aero is good enough then safety considerations will be what makes going insane with the rules unnecessary. Just because there is a current preference in overbody aero that doesn't mean that that preference will remain when underbody aero is opened up. Especially, if they get close to what old underbody aero was capable of, because then it would be dangerous to go any further. There is a point where they can make a faster car around a circuit but they can't make a driver who would survive that lap.
@rom_4938
@rom_4938 2 роки тому
Always very well explained👍
@liceface
@liceface 2 роки тому
Brilliant content yet again!
@sylvaingauthier1310
@sylvaingauthier1310 2 роки тому
Yes I really like the new F1 car look. Thank you for your work, very very interesting content each time. I really enjoy your videos. Keep on the good work and I’m glad I subscribed to your great channel…! 💪🏻🏎🏁🇨🇦
@yigithan3713
@yigithan3713 2 роки тому
Always a pleasure to watch your videos
@jameshealy4594
@jameshealy4594 2 роки тому
Hey mate, thanks for the videos, personally I think they look FANTASTIC. Compared to some of the weird wings of yore they're works of art!
@Triplecfilms
@Triplecfilms 2 роки тому
Congratulations guys! You lot are my official 5000th liked video! Loving the content lads, All the best! 👌🏻
@Powaup
@Powaup 2 роки тому
The quality of these videos. Excellent
@ashclub1
@ashclub1 2 роки тому
Mr. Mansell, I would certainly want to see a video on how F1 cars are started. The mechanics of it. I think you are the right person for that stuff.
@tannerharcus8833
@tannerharcus8833 2 роки тому
You make great content
@DirtTrackDave
@DirtTrackDave 2 роки тому
Support your fellow UKpostsr, good content got my sub. Like the info you put out as I love all forms of motor sport.
@backhandahooker
@backhandahooker 2 роки тому
I really hope do you become one of the most important youtube automotive channels. You explain stuff so well, and in a very engaging and relatable way! Keep it up bud!
@tylervanorman492
@tylervanorman492 2 роки тому
Great new series on the new car!!
@kissumisha
@kissumisha 2 роки тому
F1 fans: we want more close fights Hamilton: Dangerous driving!
@DrumAndPace
@DrumAndPace 2 роки тому
This made my blood boil during the last race. I guess Hamilton isnt used to defend/racing against other drivers.
@grismor1884
@grismor1884 2 роки тому
Your videos are like 70% "An f1 car produces insane downforce" and 30% axtual knowledge but i still love em
@p.i.arriyanraju11b12
@p.i.arriyanraju11b12 2 роки тому
So,floor damage is more of a disadvantage now?
@alimanski7941
@alimanski7941 2 роки тому
It's worse: just going over the kerbs will cause the car to lose a lot of its downforce, since it breaks up the underbody airflow. I hope we won't be seeing kerbs launching cars in the air as a result.
@sanghelian
@sanghelian 2 роки тому
hey,bonus feature; no more track limit violations
@4Leka
@4Leka 2 роки тому
@@alimanski7941 Maybe we'll finally see cars racing on the tracks instead going all over the place.
@tidelovinyankee1368
@tidelovinyankee1368 2 роки тому
Does the design of the 2022 car take away all creativity from the engineers? Love your channel. You provide the most detail of any F1 channel.
@T25de
@T25de 2 роки тому
Holy cow man 🐮 670k subs That blew up quickly!! Well done
@juanestevez1300
@juanestevez1300 2 роки тому
Would like to see you explain what max verstappen was dealing with in Hungary missing a huge chunk of his barge board on how it affected the cars driveability
@coraautumn1130
@coraautumn1130 2 роки тому
Super interesting and continues to make me extremely excited to see how the 2022 season will pan out! Hopefully Danny likes it more than he's liked the 2021 mclaren 😅
@Mace-1191
@Mace-1191 2 роки тому
So what about the issues we see with floor damage now without having a ground effect element ? Is this going to become a issue over the more aggressive kurbs ?
@GonzoDonzo
@GonzoDonzo 2 роки тому
I feel like the curbs will be lava. With the new tires and ground effect, touching a curb could really upset the car possibly. Cant wait to find out
@FrankyPi
@FrankyPi 2 роки тому
@@Lunarfox I think going kerbs and bumps will temporarily distrurb the air flow under the car when they go over them, which would be interesting to see.
@comptegoogle511
@comptegoogle511 2 роки тому
The front wings vortex are made to have turbulent air going in the radiators to increase the convection effect at the surface of the heat exchangers.
@whissie
@whissie 2 роки тому
Subbed! 👍
@AugmentedGravity
@AugmentedGravity 2 роки тому
i think the 2022 car looks a hell of a lot better than the current ones. Much smoother and cleaner with much more pleasing lines.
@shannonmcstormy5021
@shannonmcstormy5021 2 роки тому
First, love your channel and I am sub'ed. I'm disabled so I can't be a patreon, but I do what I can. Second, your diagrams you draw on top of the pictures of the cars are incredibly helpful in understanding what is going on. It is an excellent addition and I would even love to see it used more to explain such things as overtakes, lines on the track, etc. Third is a question..... = IF the cars are back to using "Ground Effects" will "hopping the curb" as they routinely do now, result in the loss of....vacuum? under the car ??? If so, will we see less "cutting the corners" ??? .
@shannonmcstormy5021
@shannonmcstormy5021 2 роки тому
P.s. I would like to see longer videos, even beyond 20 minutes, going much deeper into the topics. You are gifted with personal experience and your deep dives are incredibly engaging, but too short. I want to know more. I'm a retired grandmother and know squat about cars, so you breaking things down helps me enjoy F1 much more. In fact, your channel played a big part in me getting into F1 since becoming disabled. 🙂
@darrinpennington
@darrinpennington 2 роки тому
Subbed!
@marctasker2925
@marctasker2925 2 роки тому
Subscribed!
@sevegarza
@sevegarza 2 роки тому
Imagine a team ditching the front wing to maximize airflow under the car as well as making the lighter and smaller for better maneuverability.
@dikshant.k.5852
@dikshant.k.5852 2 роки тому
I think it is really important for teams to direct the air over or away from the front wheels thus the need for the wing
@grandpriy
@grandpriy 2 роки тому
Please do a comparison video on single seater car racing and their front wings 👌🤩
@ilhamrafi73
@ilhamrafi73 2 роки тому
Would you make a video about Peugeot 9X8, aerodynamics on that car was so interesting
@DapperHesher
@DapperHesher 2 роки тому
Kyle Engineers did a great one on it!
@DeViceCrimsin_
@DeViceCrimsin_ 2 роки тому
The return of ground effects dominance? That sounds very interesting!
@coraautumn1130
@coraautumn1130 2 роки тому
Please give us more depth when you discuss the graphs and visuals of downforce, it would be great if there was more depth in general when discussing the aerodynamics and mechanics of the cars- I think the majority of your following has enough knowledge of aero and mechanics that we would love to get more depth than the average UKpostsr give us!
@michaelhristov723
@michaelhristov723 2 роки тому
its gonna be interesting to see how front wing damage is going to effect lap time, if front wings arent as crucial to the car as they are now...
@beaconblaster33
@beaconblaster33 2 роки тому
because we're not used to it?
@officialWWM
@officialWWM 2 роки тому
When I want to learn about F1, I come to this channel!
@therrydicule
@therrydicule 2 роки тому
F1 solution to their lack of show: Create an arcade interpretation of the old cart front wing on steroids.
@shawnhollahan590
@shawnhollahan590 2 роки тому
Looks like a robot with a mustache (eyes are side scoops)
@LiquidRetro
@LiquidRetro 2 роки тому
If the front wing doesn't do much, it will be interesting to see what teams do when it's damaged due to a crash or what not. Maybe stay out and get track position instead of an immediate pit.
@user-ot7mu7ny1k
@user-ot7mu7ny1k 2 роки тому
So losing your front wing in a shunt isn’t a race ender anymore? That’s pretty cool!
@aadilsudhir8012
@aadilsudhir8012 2 роки тому
I'm just interested to see how much of a loss would teams have in the slipstream power in straights and dirty air means lower downforce which means cars can slipstream
@waynec3563
@waynec3563 2 роки тому
Hi Scott, do you expect that the 2022 cars will have lower drag and, therefore, higher speeds? Regarding the front wings not being necessary, will teams be able to run without one, or run a narrower one. The full width ploughs they have used the past several years has not been attractive. I am guessing the front wings will be used mainly for adjusting the aero balance?
@Xc31
@Xc31 2 роки тому
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@Steve1975truth
@Steve1975truth 2 роки тому
Just a tip! Change your intonation pattern when you finish your sentence. I get that it’s part of the accent because the intonation pattern is common from people that come from your area. Anyway, great videos, you always provide great content.
@captaintoyota3171
@captaintoyota3171 2 роки тому
I loved the wings before they restricted the tire wake loops. That last Merc/Rbr wing was a masterpiece of carbon engineering
@Jay-nk6dm
@Jay-nk6dm 2 роки тому
the current f1 wing is barely used for front downforce since the optimal design for downforce is already well known and optimized. So dont be surprised that with a much bigger wing, teams run front wings with very little angle of attack even at high downforce tracks
@itryen7632
@itryen7632 2 роки тому
The F in F1 now stands for Fish.
@JakobusVdL
@JakobusVdL 2 роки тому
Great video thanks. If the front wing is going to produce very little downforce, does that mean that if a driver loses their front wing, the time lost in replacing the wing in a pitstop, might not be recouped on the track?
@KillCamEditoR
@KillCamEditoR 2 роки тому
Very little is a figure of speech. If they decided to keep them in the specification, it’s for a reason. But the effect will be dampened, for sure
@JakobusVdL
@JakobusVdL 2 роки тому
@@KillCamEditoR, I guess we'll get to find out from next year
@demonsfireyx9018
@demonsfireyx9018 2 роки тому
But how to manage the amount of downforce by this seems fixed front and rear wing? Since the rear wing is fixed, is there still be DRS for 2022?
@jondonnelly4831
@jondonnelly4831 2 роки тому
Teams will over time probably find ways to produce dirty air again as a defence against being passed.
@2lotusman851
@2lotusman851 2 роки тому
Or lengthen the wheelbase some more.
@ValenGR86
@ValenGR86 2 роки тому
I actually think what blown diffuser can help a lot whit the ground effect
@nsx_montana
@nsx_montana 2 роки тому
Any idea on how the strength of slipstream will be influenced with the new rules?
@hunterreeves6525
@hunterreeves6525 2 роки тому
It should be much less powerful if there is drastically less loss in downforce. But if cars can follow closer out of a corner onto a straight then they won’t need as much of a slipstream, plus DRS will still be a thing
@erikvolger5631
@erikvolger5631 2 роки тому
Have they ever tested older f1 cars (1950-1969) in modern windtunnels to examine whether close racing was easier then? Would be nice to check... Second question, do the top teams test their designs in windtunnel while a rival car is in front of their car to examine the behavior in dirty air?
@jnygaarddk
@jnygaarddk 2 роки тому
This new car will take som getting used to. But lets hope it makes racing better. Does anyone know if the endplate is deliberately swept back, to help avoid cutting opponents tires?? I always wondered why they did make a rule to prevent the "sharp" pointy corner of current endplates. Seems a rear tyre will puncture, just by getting close to it
@scottmeredith3359
@scottmeredith3359 2 роки тому
When I see the new wing I think "Who wants a mustache ride?!"
@gabor6259
@gabor6259 2 роки тому
Chase Carrey does.
@jussayinmipeece1069
@jussayinmipeece1069 2 роки тому
correct me if i am wrong but who says that because the strakes are connected they must be that shape? I am sure they can have uneven trailing edges and middle ones can be different shapes to create vortices between the slats. Also unless the attachment points are mandated to be a certain width they can be made minimally small as long as they are "attached" so that the minimally attached section can be either at the nose or at the winglettes. And who says they MUST be wing shaped and MUST generate downforce? They can be repurposed to do other things like turn the air around the side pods since they will be relying on them less for downforce since most of the front wing surface at the moment is NOT generating downforce anyway. Or at least that's what i would do.
@TryingToHelpAbdool
@TryingToHelpAbdool 2 роки тому
Question so if a driver gets front wing damage he will still be able to have the stability?
@namelessness42
@namelessness42 2 роки тому
Tihihi I subbed cause you reminded me :P
@jacksonianc
@jacksonianc 2 роки тому
So ready for the next season, I can’t wait to see some closer racing!
@JimiJo
@JimiJo 2 роки тому
Hey Scott, are we not having DRS in 2022?
@ryaramaf1gobshite397
@ryaramaf1gobshite397 2 роки тому
I can remember this Y250 vortex been introduced but why surely they’d know it would hurt following cars?what would happen if VER lost the same parts of his car as he did in the last race on these new cars would he still be able to carry on or would it be a right off?
@pauls5745
@pauls5745 2 роки тому
they mention that overall the front wing has less of the total impact on aero, so loss of it wont be as bad, tho probably would still suck
@jamiealder-martin9994
@jamiealder-martin9994 2 роки тому
So with the tests they did wing the front wing saying that they could run them pretty much without them does that mean if one takes damage during a race they may not need to change it
@mikew8983
@mikew8983 2 роки тому
Only question is how do you replace that
@dylanh3712
@dylanh3712 2 роки тому
But if they are making a lot of tunnels under neath the car, wont that make the floor more vulnerable to damage?
@rccroatiachannel4633
@rccroatiachannel4633 2 роки тому
Same was on Americas Cup 2021
@Milkydrummer
@Milkydrummer 2 роки тому
Adrian Newey is going to have a field day with these new regs i reckon
@keithlewis9106
@keithlewis9106 2 роки тому
Question, F1 motor valve springs, I hearing that the spring are a compress air and not a spring at all. Can you tell about these?
@DapperHesher
@DapperHesher 2 роки тому
There's no springs on the valves. They're pneumatic so they avoid valve float and bounce. That's about it.
@keithlewis9106
@keithlewis9106 2 роки тому
@@DapperHesher thank you for getting back with me, can or would you do a short video as I never seen this , as I am old street rod guy. Like how they add air or air in a piston ??
@MrBean0528
@MrBean0528 2 роки тому
Maybe this is a stupid question but if teams can make front wings from 4 elements what will prevent them to use 2 element for downforce and the other two to direct airflow and generate dirty air for the car behind? These are not spec cars, they will go crazy tricky with the front wing designs. I assume none of them will look like the one on the 2022 showroom car.
@dxnel_t01
@dxnel_t01 2 роки тому
Please link the background music you use in the video🥺🙏
@sam21462
@sam21462 2 роки тому
So, might it be possible that we see some teams roll out with very minimal front wings, meaning with as little surface area set as aero neutral as possible?
@techfire1
@techfire1 2 роки тому
I wonder if we'll see teams not bother replacing front wings if they're not too heavily damaged?
@retr0254
@retr0254 2 роки тому
whats the background song used here? i think its the same one donut media uses.
@sietsebrouwer3627
@sietsebrouwer3627 2 роки тому
Even if the car would work the same without a front wing, i'd still like there to be one. I think it would look a bit weird without one.
@jeroendesterke9739
@jeroendesterke9739 2 роки тому
Smaller front wings - or none at all should eliminate about 95% of unplanned pitstops.
@joelmachak4062
@joelmachak4062 2 роки тому
As a biker, it’s very clear that vehicles with squared upper edges create much more turbulence. Even a small upper radius makes a difference. I applaud saying good-bye to the turbulence force field.
@captaino16
@captaino16 2 роки тому
I wonder if at tracks like Monza cars will experiment with no front wing if they really don't generate much downforce
@FukU2222
@FukU2222 2 роки тому
presumably, with this much cleaner airflow//less turbulence, there will be a fair bit less drag and hence, higher top speeds???
@zydanakbar9884
@zydanakbar9884 2 роки тому
presumably, yes. although the main intention is to introduce less dirty air, ergo cars can follow/slipstream easier without depending on DRS
@shmazy86
@shmazy86 2 роки тому
I never once have thought it looks weird 🤔
@Chickenman161
@Chickenman161 2 роки тому
The same background music as Donut Media is used in this vid, at about 4 mins ahah. Thought i was watching a different channel for a second!
@wilhufftarkin8543
@wilhufftarkin8543 2 роки тому
The new cars look cool, but I like how complex the current ones look. The current ones look like powerful machines.
@AGirlTalksF1
@AGirlTalksF1 2 роки тому
I LOVE the new car and that livery should stay in one of the teams haha
@mannemteja
@mannemteja 2 роки тому
This video is 10% content and 90% just reiterating what has already been known.
@n3lis94
@n3lis94 2 роки тому
People are saying it looks wierd, but with all those random edges and small wing elements on the current ones I think it looks a lot more normal than the current front wings. And also just better.
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