Why They Had to Build OVER This Old Building
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@frankwilliamabagnale3303 Рік тому
Your content quality is going through the roof with this one, so to speak.
@shawtop Рік тому
👌🏼
@bill9540 Рік тому
I almost didn’t Catch your comment☺️
@philrabe910 Рік тому
On another level?
@krisstopher8259 Рік тому
i strongly agree
@e1123581321345589144 Рік тому
yes, this channel certainly stands above most others
@yourmother9359 Рік тому
6:01 - I will always love how architects are trying to tell us that what they are producing is not "ugly" but "special".
@DieselRamcharger 10 місяців тому
its fucking abysmal.
@suze816 10 місяців тому
While it may be an engineering marvel, it is visually HIDEOUS.
@sven888 7 місяців тому
Word.
@rustyneuron 6 місяців тому
OMG, the people in this city are insane. What a travesty. That is an architectural crime. They couldn't modify or tear down the historically significant building, but they could sure ruin the aesthetic of it as much as possible. They just as well have dozed it.
@sven888 6 місяців тому
I know. It's hard to believe. The city otherwise is beautiful. Just not this fluke. @@rustyneuron
@_symmetry_ Рік тому
From an engineering perspective, it's really impressive. From an architectural perspective, it's an atrocious exercise of pure insanity.
@rickinielsen1 Рік тому
Two interesting and good looking buildings... that does not at ALL complement each other...
@smb6995 Рік тому
Ye, Zaha Hadid generally didn't build shit but that's the odd one out 😒
@komnenos3633 Рік тому
Heritage protection should include people building monstrosities that don't blend with original architecture of the building on top of it or into it. This reminds me of the Royal Ontario Museum which is a similar assault on a existing building.
@jamiepiersefarrell565 11 місяців тому
She really took a shit on this old European building, although the more I look at it the more I appreciate its boldness
@diegorhoenisch62 11 місяців тому
And yet I disagree completely. Does that make me wrong, or is this indeed a matter of taste? De gustibus non est disputandum. Cheers, Alan Tomlinson
@chickens00p Рік тому
I agree it looks more like a show piece than a functional office space
@x1achilles99 Рік тому
But what a showpiece.
@abcod3300 Рік тому
architecture is not all abt functional space. Its an artform
@robotnoir5299 Рік тому
@@abcod3300 Not since post-modernism, has architecture been an art-form. "Form follows function" results in abominations 100% of the time. Modern architecture is just a bunch of losers, lazily slapping together basic wire-frame models. The architecture in Quake2 is better than anything real architects have designed" for half a century.
@MrMattie725 Рік тому
As a Belgian engineer I like the construction! As a Belgian architect I don't really like how it 'overpowers' the heritage. Also, it feels kind of weird to see multiple buildings I've been to today on the definitive channel for construction that same evening :D
@PSP92262 Рік тому
Of course you don't see how it overpowers the original building, architecture school today brainwashes you to love ugliness over beauty.
@CasaManNL Рік тому
To me it visualizes the arrogance of an architect and the lack of pushback from the civil servants
@mbrackeva Рік тому
My thoughts at first. It takes a little bit to understand. But since I work in the harbour and see the building from my office I can now safely say it's amazing and it portrays all that makes the city great. Anyway who's not from Antwerp and doesn't understand: we don't care, it' not your building!
@ivangamer8022 Рік тому
1/3 of Anwerp population are north african and arabs. If only those people were living in their countrys Belgium would not need to destroy it's beautiful architechture
@thechillpanda2145 Рік тому
Just wait till it gets hot in less than 10 years Idiot never felt 114 degrees outside
@ludosys4903 Рік тому
Truly very impressive from the outside, less from the inside though. I had - job related - many meetings in the building and it stroke me every time how marvellous it looks from the outside as a real landmark for the city, but how claustrophobic it feels from the inside. A lot of meeting rooms have barely any natural light. The board room on the upper floor however has stunning views over the port of Antwerp.
@H3liosphan Рік тому
Yeah, see that's where for such an expensive piece of engineering, why did practicality just fall by the wayside? As far as I'm concerned, practicality should be #1 in the design, attractiveness is entirely subjective and secondary to the functionality -without that you might as well tear it down.
@JohnFromAccounting Рік тому
@@H3liosphan Ego project. It was never meant to be sensible or useful. It will be gone in 60 years.
@whyisgamora4191 Рік тому
@@JohnFromAccounting You think they'll neglect an actively used office building that costed 60 million euros to construct? I'm not saying that this building was a great decision but it did do what it needed to: create extra office space for 500 extra employees. And it gave Antwerp's officials another monument to boast with. It will not be gone in 60 years.
@churblefurbles Рік тому
@@whyisgamora4191 They dont' have children, why would they care about a future. Expensive to maintain are eventually abandoned.
@rowaystarco Рік тому
That being said, I don't mind meeting rooms being a bit depressing. Most meetings should be as short as possible as long meetings usually only waste time. The work spaces however, they should have as much natural light as possible!
@lipslide101 Рік тому
As an Antwerp resident and someone who worked in this very building, I am really happy you made a video about this. I know that it's not the most well-loved building in the city but it certainly was very ambitious and the result is very impressive, regardless of what one might think of it.
@JohnFromAccounting Рік тому
But if any time someone talks about the building, the reaction is muted at best, isn't the project a failure?
@lipslide101 Рік тому
@@JohnFromAccounting I don't know if it would be considered a failure since the building is serving its purpose as an office building that is actively being used. However, speaking about its design, one can certainly call it a failure but at the end of the day it's a subjective matter so who knows
@JohnFromAccounting Рік тому
@@lipslide101 Think of the new BMWs. No matter how good the performance is, all anyone ever talks about is how ugly the design is. The supposed qualities are completely overshadowed by a catastrophic failure of design. The same for this building. But its not even an effective office building because the interior was compromised to achieve the geometry. A failure on both counts.
@PeterR0035 Рік тому
Same here, I'm from Antwerp. This building and the new 'sail ships alike Antwerp admin building' never really got the Antwerp/Belgium population really warm. I guess it was more a prestige kind of thing than anything else. It might also be the neighbourhood; this building, het Mas, admin sailing ships building are all builld in some very remote area that also was on the brink of being deserted/run down.
@SeanMTuohy Рік тому
@Meir My question is what is the courtyard like when it rains? How do they manage the runoff from the roof of the building above? Is there a concern about erosion of the courtyard below and streams of water falling on people?
@daelster Рік тому
There's nothing "perfectly blended" about these two different styles of architecture, not even through contrast--they just clash, and if that's the point, then that's an ugly point. Though the design is obnoxious, it is still an engineering marvel, and construction marvel, so kudos to the team that pulled that off.
@christopherbedford9897 7 місяців тому
Yeah I was about to post that I don't think it's anywhere near as "beautiful" as everyone seems to think it is. It reminds me of Prince Charles' remarks all those decades ago about a carbuncle on the face of a dear old friend. Go anywhere you like in the world and you will find where architects have done their level best to build monuments to themselves. Yeah, some of this woman's designs don't look so bad, but this? Monumental? Certainly. Nice? Naah.
@sven888 7 місяців тому
It's an eye sore for every person of Antwerp.
@scottydude456 Рік тому
Architect: “so it’s somewhat of a unique design, do you think you can pull this one off?” Engineer, holding back tears: “yes.”
@ivangamer8022 Рік тому
1/3 of Anwerp population are north african and arabs. If only those people were living in their countrys Belgium would not need to destroy it's beautiful architechture
@laxfich_gecko Рік тому
Exactly. I'm a structural engineer and I could sing you a song, no a whole opera about it. Then when you 'pulled it off' (YES THAT MEANS YOUR DESIGN IS WASTEFUL MRS HONORABLE ARCHITECT), you get some emails with 'minor' changes or 'new' (delayed) infos about the needed fireproofing, or soundproofing or whatever regulations are new today and it becomes even more complicated. this usually continues until AFTER the building is completed. Often when you open your email program and spot some architect emails, you feel like prometheus when he sees the eagle coming over. oh-boy. also this building is an abomination and stands for everything that is wrong in this world
@shadowmistress999 Рік тому
@@ivangamer8022 do they not contribute to your Anwerp society at all? like they smoke, drink, and do drugs all day? not laying bricks for your beautiful buildings or cleaning the streets at all?
@jhonjhonson5787 Рік тому
@@shadowmistress999 they do more harm than good, their culture and religion isn’t compatible with that of the native people. Every race has their own countries, why can’t White people?
@williansouza8724 Рік тому
@@shadowmistress999 that clown wants attention, don’t give it to him.
@alimanski7941 Рік тому
Re: the lacking interior design: The question becomes if star architects are designing extravagant buildings for themselves as an exercise in fame, or for their clients and their needs.
@JohnFromAccounting Рік тому
Classical buildings have an obviously structure to them. Rectangular, and practical. The needs of the client are met, while also adding embellishments and stylistic elements to the exterior to give it character. Some buildings even tell stories on their exterior. If a classical architect went on an ego trip to make a less than efficient structure, they would be out of a job straight away.
@guidoferri8683 Рік тому
To be fair, the client is partially responsible on the end result too, it's not that she could do everything she wanted
@oovdash Рік тому
@@JohnFromAccounting structure, structure, structure. As if economy of construction is all that matters to a design of a building. All those descriptions you listed of the perfect classical building are all fulfilled (save the stylistic tack on features like ornamentation) by the generic, one-storey warehouses that surround the firehouse. Those rectangular buildings have been optimized by the structural engineer to be as cheap and easy to build as possible. Don’t see the client building any of those for their office expansion. Also those buildings have an expiry date to them, materially and operationally. Easy to build, even easier to rip down.
@joedowning2428 Рік тому
@@oovdash if you've ever worked in practice, you'd know that measures are usually taken to respect the surrounding architecture (sometimes these are planning conditions). Measures should've been taken in particular for this older building. Port house in itself is the embodiment of excess, wastefulness and uncreative design
@oovdash Рік тому
@@joedowning2428 the surrounding context are 1-storey warehouses constructed in the past 4 decades, not an urban European city center. The anomaly are the two historical buildings which obviously have preservation protections. The design brief was obviously to create an icon that stands out from the rest.
@MrMakeDo Рік тому
I don’t understand why they keep saying there wasn’t room to build around it where there are clearly vast open areas surrounding the building that could have been used instead of completely changing how the building looked. The appearance of the fire house has been completely altered by the presence of the new building so even though technically they’ve preserved it, they haven’t. They may as well have demolished it and started over.
@LittleMissSmallPaw Рік тому
I do get your point but keep in mind you can't just expand your house on your neighbours lawn just because there's enough space over there.
@larssalembier7790 Рік тому
@@LittleMissSmallPaw the client here is the Port of Antwerp, I'm pretty sure they own all the space around that building too.
@ericwright1840 Рік тому
I was thinking 🤔 the same thing myself.
@joshbrown2217 Рік тому
@@larssalembier7790 I think it's more how the surrounding area would impact the look of the building. Although building ontop also changes the look of the building, by completely engulfing the building, it hides it from the public and probably infringes upon some of the cultural heritage status. While by building above it is what most likely doesn't infringe upon that status (probably because no one though that would be an option).
@larssalembier7790 Рік тому
@@joshbrown2217 no one noticed how they had to destroy a beautiful bell tower to build that monstrosity either. It's where they put the elevator shaft.
@Assywalker Рік тому
It would have fit right next to it just fine, especially if you're willing to make it this tall. But sure that works, too. Kinda weird to make this an example of a clever solution for having not enough space, if there is enough space :)
@jkardez4794 10 місяців тому
Every layman has commented on this aspect- it's seems only Zaha was unaware of the availability.
@Itsmarkyoung Рік тому
This is a genuine question, there seems to be a very large courtyard of empty space right next to the historic building, why did they not just build on this plot of land with a more simple design? It’s interesting that this was constructed directly on top of a building seemingly surrounded by so much empty space, as if it was the “only option”
@scronchman0146 Рік тому
The reason is quite simple, these kinds of additions to old buildings are made to shit on our heritage. Everything that is beautiful must be torn down or covered up with some steel abomination
@teundilles Рік тому
Good question. At the time of construction a giant bridge over the river was being in the planning phase. One of the reasons this construction was chosen is that it would still be visible when a large bridge would lay next to it. The bridge is now scrapped and a tunnel is currently being made, but that wasn't clear at the time this project was planned and realised.
@Itsmarkyoung Рік тому
@@teundilles thanks for the info!
@UwHoogheid Рік тому
There were competing designs just like that. For some reason they chose this
@mbrackeva Рік тому
You don't get the story, because all you saw was a 11 minute video. I see the building from my work desk. I had the same idea at first as you. But the building now tells a story about the city. It's a landmark and a symbol. It's important for people from Antwerp, where I've been living all my life.
@Malfoy1594 Рік тому
It looks stunning... on its own... But I loathe when new futuristic designs completely overshadow a stunning historical building. They 'protected it' just to completely build on top of it, there is no cohesion.
@dedasdude Рік тому
my thoughts exactly. Could have blended in a bit nicely... it just looks like someone just put one building on top of another.
@1nf3ct3dTT Рік тому
@@dedasdude office building glitched into the historical one lol
@xZyrux Рік тому
Yep they should have destroyed the shitshack beneath this masterpiece.
@Malfoy1594 Рік тому
@@dedasdude with almost no functionality... Instead of just restoring the firehouse into offices... If the Pandemic taught us anything is, we don't need to overbuild cities to build more and more offices. It's now a defunct practice.
@coipoboy Рік тому
I gotta be honest it looks owfull almost all new buildings are just well glass in x chape. That is just a lunp of glass added to a beautifill clasic building. In sure its a great feat of engineeing and all but. Man all modern architecture looks the same. And everyone pats each other in the back claiming the most modern most fluuid cube of glass and concrete ever created.
@iliansalessegarra3424 Рік тому
I'm studying architectural engineering in Ghent, Belgium and one of my professors actually helped work on this building. It's so amazing to see it featured here on a channel I adore! Belgium doesn't get a lot of attention most of the time
@johnnykapiszony56 Рік тому
because it is a dull bureaucratic hell hole
@DacLMK Рік тому
I've been to Belgium many times, and Ghent is one of my favorite Belgium cities. I just love it. My Uncle was born in Ghent. Cheers, from Macedonia.
@mho... Рік тому
Germany gave Belgium alot of attention, but they didnt like it 🙋♂🙋🙋♀
@DashedSimpusMaximus Рік тому
Please don't ruin old architecture with "new" architecture.. retain the old aesthetic & intent..
@johnwt7333 Рік тому
Belgium (sighs) - Netherlands
@Cornholio_X Рік тому
This project was nice to work this complex building. I work in a steel construction that has builded this project. I'm one of the welder and yes, i did weld alot of it.
@LukeAps Рік тому
Good work! I'm sorry you had to work on this ugly structure.
@angelnight167 Рік тому
It's really sad that whenever a megastructure is formed, they only honor the architects but say nothing about how hard the structural engineers have calculated.
@matt007 Рік тому
Looks like they placed a giant, glass, shit sculpture on top of the old building.
@JettMoress Рік тому
The architect's version of "too preoccupied if they could rather than they should".
@pisse3000 Рік тому
That's 90% of modern architecture
@dimitristsekeris1821 Рік тому
Very original comment.
@pjfesharaki8645 Рік тому
@@pisse3000 90% of modern architecture is banal glass boxes where I live
@sven888 7 місяців тому
Exactly.
@Rainer1991 Рік тому
Next up, a video about how they're planning to change the whole Antwerp skyline by basically doing the exact same old/new architecture with the "Boerentoren" one of the few tall buildings in the city. Once again, nobody is happy with what they're planning to do with that tower.
@sven888 7 місяців тому
Let's hope we don't turn into Dubai. It's really terrible how they allow those new buildings to overpower the beautiful old buildings.
@drewshoto9450 Рік тому
your content is out standing B1M . I will forever be in your view on youtube . I went form a person who liked city hall clock towers to now obsessed with Skyscrapers and Mega scale construction .
@belgianfsgamer Рік тому
As someone who lives and grew up in Antwerp I am proud that Antwerp is covered in a B1M video and especially with a building where my grandfather used to have an office in before his retirement ( he had an office on the 3rd floor of the firehouse)
@maximbollansee Рік тому
What a grea video! I live really really close to the port house of Antwerp. I think it looks most beautiful on a misty morning of evening, when the buildings surrounding it are less visible and thisone sticking out with it's beautiful lighting. Looking like a brigt diamond and almost outworldly! ❤
@ellitheus4981 Рік тому
I'm a STEM student that is looking to study Civil Engineering. And I would say your content is amazing!
@thegoldengatesound Рік тому
More on the installation of the piers/piles, and how the tie beam was installed would have been interesting. Crane lifting the floors into place is a bit repetitive but the underpinning work is different
@eliasverledens2809 Рік тому
You should also make a video about the covering of the ring of Antwerp. It is one of the biggest infrastructure projects in the whole of Europe and will have an immense positive impact on people living in the city and fix the massive congestion problems.
@hendman4083 Рік тому
Just one more lane bro, trust me it will fix traffic.
@VincentPeerlinck Рік тому
@@hendman4083 Meh. it's not just one more lane. They are finishing the ring road.
@hendman4083 Рік тому
@@VincentPeerlinck I guess the plan is to reroute through-traffic around the city, to take the pressure of the roads in the city? If so, the reduced congestion in the city will create "induced demand", and in 6 months to a year the inner city congestion levels will be back to the current situation.
@mszi4190 Рік тому
there is a similar building in Budapest called the "whale" at the bank of the Danube river. While it is not built on top, but in between old warehouses and the top arches over, this reminded me of that
@jlfilip Рік тому
Here is idea for another video - can you maybe do video about a dam between Italy and Albania. It would close off Adriatic sea, could work as bridge and it could maintaining sea level keeping all coast cities safe(Venice, Dubrovnik, Bari, Vlora, etc)
@tjendenys5028 Рік тому
Quick tip if you want some more content on BIG infrastructure. Right now in Antwerp there is a massive construction project under way called Oosterweel. They're completing the ring road with a new tunnel across the river Scheldt. A bunch of new interchanges, bike routes, and a lot of juicy controversy!
@JohnSmith-oh9ux Рік тому
Right now? They been at it for more than 5 years already lmao and nowhere close finish.
@PaulCarmona Рік тому
Looks like a giant billboard on a beautiful old building.
@philipmurphy2 Рік тому
The B1M content quality is excellent at the moment for sure.
@dryroasted5599 Рік тому
4:40 "The challenge lies in the structural design." No, the challenge lies in letting an architect with no concept of mechanics draw something whimsical, and then giving it to engineers to fix.
@tomedward8652 Рік тому
This should be top comment :)
@thealaris Рік тому
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This is true, but I’d imagine the engineers involved are generally happy for the challenge. Sure, there are some really tough cases where the engineers just want to walk away from or scream at the architects for, but surely there are many others where there challenges keep the job interesting. I am not a building engineer, so if anyone is then I’d appreciate some perspective here.
@calholli Рік тому
Yeah, that's what I said. It looks like a child designed it. lol.
@XGrimzukiX Рік тому
“Modern architecture” is really just a draw something cool and we’ll build it despite its unpracticality contest.
@Sn0wM0nstah Рік тому
I used to work there from time to time as a student during events. The scale when you are inside really makes you appreciate the amazing engineering they have done. Great video!
@TronseMC Рік тому
I never ever feel the need to skip your ads, lovely video like always!
@erikvoitus7488 Рік тому
I understand the extent of the exterior lighting for the new part of the port house, but given that the old building also looks majestic in its own way I think that too deserves exterior lighting. I mean is that concrete column realy more important and marvelous then the old fire brigade building?💡💡💡
@Auscan_Octrice Рік тому
Alright this is something that I feel needs to be said- the building underneath is not “incorporated” into this build, it’s covered up and is hidden in the buildings shadow, this is an eye sore on top of a building nothing should’ve been built on top of.
@egnazia Рік тому
Respectfully l disagree
@zsoltszalanczi4508 Рік тому
Exactly, I agree!
@Wovi10 Рік тому
This is the case with all the flyovers that are shown and from one side. But if you look at it as most people would see it (from the streets next to it), it actually doesn't cover up anything.
@JohnFromAccounting Рік тому
If the goal was preservation, they have made an abomination.
@mepatton Рік тому
It's horrid. There is nothing human, inviting, or pleasant about it.
@HAZMOLZ Рік тому
I think futuristic looking buildings have their place, but they should never come at the expense of important historical landmarks. This looks like the iron giant mistook a monument for a toilet pan.
@abbofun9022 Рік тому
Disagree, go view in real life to get a proper impression and you’ll see it is much more in balance than you thought.
@xXSamir44Xx Рік тому
I disagree. Once space becomes more of a concern giving people a place to live or work is more important than historical landmarks.
@medi9945 Рік тому
@@abbofun9022 It looks horrendous
@medi9945 Рік тому
@@xXSamir44Xx No. This is such a stupid claim. Also, modern buildings do not have to mean modernist buildings. Modern buildings can be built in a classical and traditional style that suits the area and respects the cultural herritage.
@HAZMOLZ Рік тому
@@xXSamir44Xx That's a false dichotomy, you can create extra space and still be historically sensitive. This work in this context is grotesque.
@Draxis32 Рік тому
A similar feat has happened in Sao Paulo, Brazil. One mansion was deemed irreplaceable and couldn't be demolished. The developers dug around the mansion and literally lifted the mansion up from it's foundations! And built an enormous Hotel/Spa/Apartment around it.
@Furious321 Рік тому
This is a lot like how the Citadel was plopped on top of a traditional European city in HL2.
@patmat. Рік тому
I 'd have loved to know how they clean the windows.
@exvdf Рік тому
Reminds me original Prague Stock Exchange from 1930's overlapped by Federal Assembly extension in 1970's, nowadays a new building of National Museum.
@wwokkell Рік тому
I live in Antwerp and have visited the harbour building this summer. it looks awesome from the outside, but it did feel a bit "empty" on the inside. and sometimes a bit claustrophobic. The offices themselves where very nice though, the spaces in between the offices just weren't that appealing
@Addyboy0190 Рік тому
I'm more interested in the structural and financial implications of those 2 massive shear wall columns, they have to be hollow for the elevator or fire exits, right? Or are they purely structural and solid
@paoloposo Рік тому
I was wondering about fire exits, or even a stairwell, as well.
@oovdash Рік тому
Go onto Archdaily. They have a wall section that shows the egress stairs and elevators in the structure. Very typical.
@dandelan Рік тому
It's not solid. It functions as a stairwell and a fire exit. It even runs 2 floors below the ground, to the underground parking garage.
@yonatanschlussel 9 місяців тому
That's one of the coolest buildings I've ever seen, and it's meaning makes it all the more special You guys make amazing videos
@sven888 7 місяців тому
If you think it's cool please lift it up and put it in your backyard. We in Antwerp want it gone!
@McKillaboy Рік тому
Also worked on this building years ago, love the video!
@maxsone.w.3219 Рік тому
It kinda looks like what the Combine from the Half-Life Series would build.
@shuin09 Рік тому
When Earth gets invaded, that's where the aliens will have their HQ
@richardpark3054 Рік тому
Wow! Great architectural achievement! Can't believe I only heard one reference (at 8:16) regarding its striking resemblance to a ship!
@sven888 7 місяців тому
If you want a ship let me book you a one way ticket to Dubai.
@richardpark3054 7 місяців тому
Well, that's fairly inscrutable. @@sven888
@_koji Рік тому
Thanks for the video!
@111danish111 Рік тому
Great example of structural engineering that underground foundation beam is something I'm seeing for the first time and the column outside the firehouse is slant .
@zapfanzapfan Рік тому
Glass extensions on historic buildings often work well I find, I have one in my town, a 19th century hospital got a very fitting glass extension.
@sven888 7 місяців тому
Great; send us your address and we'll install it in your backyard.
@mikehollants Рік тому
Aw man! So happy to see my city finally featured! For someone who equally loves historical and futuristic architecture, I seriously want more of this.
@mrbbqcraig 3 місяці тому
Fred, you should check out an old building that was deconstructed in Ginza, Tokyo and then put back together with a mammoth skyscraper/ shopping complex in the middle of it....old and modern together in central Ginza is quite an effect.. love your vids dude, cheers to you 🤟🎶
@LMays-cu2hp Рік тому
Thank you for sharing.
@florboelaert9725 Рік тому
Next a video about the re-organization of the Antwerp motorway R1. Would be amazing! Great video, Antwerpen boven!
@Pluske1407 Рік тому
en de rest is parking ! xD
@defenstrator4660 Рік тому
It’s interesting and different. I can’t say they preserved the historic structure though. It’s there but it’s essential form is gone, So I wouldn’t advise this approach for different projects .
@SenneVorsselmans Рік тому
Classmates of mine helped design/calculate the front mount/Pilar.
@minecrafter0505 Рік тому
I'm curious about the roof of the historical building below, the difference in weather exposure will produce some weird contrast lines, right? Do they counter that somehow?
@sven888 7 місяців тому
No. They never thought about this. It's a misplaced structure that should have been built in Dubai; not Antwerp.
@julianlineham Рік тому
As a structural engineer I love the challenge but I like new interventions to historic work, not a complete overshadowing, like Libeskind did in Dresden too.
@svn5994 Рік тому
This overshadows the old building.
@sven888 7 місяців тому
Big time. It is ugly. @@svn5994
@samyfay7786 Рік тому
🤔 Suggestion for future episode(s) series. You could dedicate episode(s) for architects of importance and/or particular style. An episode for Zaha Hadid could be a good start.
@steinway.official Рік тому
I always like your videos and watching it every upload you did, making me like a professional by watching as a 14 year old lol, but I always really have interest in buildings and skyscrapers, thx!!!
@tevolodymyr Рік тому
Amazing project🎉
@justanotheryoutubechannel Рік тому
I think making buildings taller is definitely a good idea but something like this looks really out of place, you couldn’t really repeat this design except as a single set piece building. I think more buildings should be enlarged and made taller, so the new construction can blend in with the earlier structure but allow significantly more people.
@Maxime_K-G Рік тому
Finally B1M makes a video about the havenhuis!
@iampianoman 2 місяці тому
I wonder if the Rosalie Sharp Centre for Design, a building addition to the main building at OCAD University in Toronto, Canada (formerly Ontario College of Art and Design), was an influence or inspiration to this building's design, as the building addition was literally built on top of an existing building. It certainly got local people talking when built.
@kristinaF54 Рік тому
It's possible to build skyscrapers on stilts above existing heritage buildings, they been doing that for a decade or so. There's few in Japan and New York now.
@davetv4705 Рік тому
What a great project! Nice presentation by the B1M Team. I am addicted to your videos.
@MatthewVandeputte Рік тому
Great to see my hometown featured on here! Now we have content from all the places I've lived (Antwerp, Sydney and London!)
@paulmcintyre7175 Рік тому
Visited Antwerp last year, had never heard of this building before. It was one of the only buildings that I stopped and took photos of, and one I remember being excited about as soon as I saw it.
@fancysandshrew Рік тому
the perth museum in australia has a similar concept being built over a historic building
@thorpeeedo Рік тому
I love these videos, but I would really love to know what combinations of software packages are used in the design and analysis of these structures. Does anyone know what Zaha Hadid would have used for this?
@UwHoogheid Рік тому
I worked on part of it. I heard Zaha Hadid didn't do any of the structural design. They just made the concept. Al the rest was by local firms
@thorpeeedo Рік тому
@@UwHoogheid oh I'm sure that's right. They're architects not structural engineers. I'd still be interested to know software is used. Not just this building but all the projects on this channel really. I guess that's just my particular interest though.
@supervitallica Рік тому
I live in Antwerp, nice to see it featured on the B1M.
@GazMoby Рік тому
Very enjoyable as always!
@EvaWhoDraws Рік тому
Reminds me a lot of the Unilever building in Rotterdam, sits overtop the older brick buildings underneath
@sven888 7 місяців тому
And that's not a good thing.
@Me1le Рік тому
I remember googling it when I visited Antwerp. It's quite eye catching.
@michaelglynn7010 Рік тому
Agreed the building underneath it is beautiful
@RowanMackenzie Рік тому
So I guess I must be one of the few people who doesn't like how it looks then hahaha
@pilotdawn1661 Рік тому
Fabulous! Would love to visit it.
@jlj2169 Рік тому
This is like "preserving" the Mona Lisa by wrapping it in plastic and bedazzling the plastic wrap. They destroyed the building underneath it without actually destroying it.
@BLWard-ht3qw Рік тому
Eh, it's an interesting addition, but seems like an odd combination, maybe more so because I'm seriously taken in by the (historical) firehouse by itself. I think it looks fantastic. Different strokes though.
@Niosus Рік тому
I think that while the old firehouse is beautiful. But there are many of buildings in the exact same style in the city. In the historical center, everything follows the old style and a lot of effort goes into preserving that. But this building was sitting next to a major road, warehouses and dry docks. If it wasn't for the "thing" on top, nobody would know about it. It's not place you visit. It's not place you see. It's a building you drive past on your way to work, barely noticing it as you navigate the intersection. It's literally right next to a DHL warehouse... The renovation has made it a landmark you can see from pretty much anywhere near the water. Even though it's not in a nice part of town, it's a symbol now that (literally and figuratively) elevates the building way above what it previously was. I think this building was the perfect candidate for a project like this. You'd never even have seen the old firehouse otherwise. It would be forgotten by almost everyone. Now the contrast makes it noteworthy and much more appreciated than before.
@TheUsername1302 Рік тому
I pass by it every single day. Even if people say it clashes too much, I think it is amazing
@research1747 7 місяців тому
There must be more developments like this maybe not so amazing - but an interesting use of heritage sites - can you show us more - please !
@sven888 7 місяців тому
No thank you. Please go do Dubai and don't come back.
@YTMV Рік тому
Amazing Video as always Fred, Tim, Aaron, James & Jaden!
@joshlockie9285 Рік тому
I just watched a life like version of a futuristic city where everything is built on top of each other. It takes the guy a year to make a 15min clip because of the detail. Really cool.
@Cendrity Рік тому
It’s been said that an architects dream is an engineers nightmare.
@sven888 7 місяців тому
It is a dream for the architect and in this case a nightmare for every citizen of Antwerp.
@hudcofudco Рік тому
It looks great on it's own but with the building under it I can't help but feel it looks ghastly in the position it's in. Hate it.
@davidmayhew8083 7 місяців тому
Fantastic!
@seppehens8459 Рік тому
really love that a video over this building and antwerp was made not comon, belguim is a country that seems like it always gets forgotten
@jonathanleonard1152 Рік тому
That is not a jeweled hat. That is a jeweled ship. Shipping is the jewel of Antwerp.
@sven888 7 місяців тому
No. Historical buildings are the jewels of Antwerp.
@georgelmatt Рік тому
I was never a fan of how this building looks. The stark contrast is just too extreme for me. I can totally respect the design philosophy but it doesn't align with my personal tastes. This video has made me respect it more though, very insightful into the design process and the ideas being pursued so that it can work and bare it's physical form as it does.
@johnashleyfinlayson Рік тому
There's a similar but smaller example done in Krakow called the Cricoteka Museum.
@sven888 7 місяців тому
Sad.
@mr.boomguy Рік тому
Just got a crazy idea. Now, I'm no architect at all, but I do have a wild fantasy. Imagine this building, but free standing, and many others in as a city on stilts, and you can walk all below. I let the comments rate from 1-10 how plausible it is, and perhaps I'm lucky enough to get a real architects reply (note: I'm expecting 1-3 in plausible points, but still)
@OleJanssen Рік тому
Honestly, I personally absolutely hate this building, as it is a huge example of valuing design over functionality. I just cannot wrap my head around why they had to build a huge office building supported by only two large pillars on top of a historical building if they could have just put a regular office building in the empty space next to the old building. Such a waste of money and resources.
@GM-qq1wi Рік тому
Agreed, the old building sits empty an unused. The new addition the most grotesque thing. Why not build something symmetrical that emphasizes the old, not something grotesque that serves only to mock the old.
@arkheavyindutries Рік тому
I agree. Even if I'm not against the idea of combining old and new style, I think it looks hideous. Even if they leveled the old building and the new building was standing on its own, I think it looks terrible. The design is just a combination of jagged lines, asymetrical lines, put together without grace. Then, plastered with a boring triangular, typical international style glass façade. And if we try to talk about how it combines with it surroundings, it is clear that it wasn´t conceived to blend in at all. A truly missed opportunity to do something interesting.
@manuelm. Рік тому
Excellent video, I live in the beautiful city of Antwerp and I'm always fascinated with this impressive building. I hope you can also make a video about the covering of the Antwerp's ring, it is a megaproject that will have a very positive impact in the whole Benelux.
@CrackingGate Рік тому
The stark contrast of the two buildings while a great talking point now will age quite quickly. An interesting way of dramatically increasing useable floor space but in this instance the original building should have been left alone as it has Heritage Status. Any modifications to its appearance or structure should not have happened.
@sven888 7 місяців тому
Correct.
@dedlos Рік тому
It's a hellish combo, but fecking amazing.
@PeterPing Рік тому
What a way to disrespect the historical building.
@andrewreynolds912 9 місяців тому
Well, not really building over them prevents them being torn down, not to mention its hard to find.more space
@marianvlcek6007 8 місяців тому
Similar idea was used for the New Building of the National Museum in Prague which was built in 60/70s: cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nov%C3%A1_budova_N%C3%A1rodn%C3%ADho_muzea
@ioanbota9397 Рік тому
Realy I like this video
@shanti4969 Рік тому
Truly stunning
@TOXWORKS Рік тому
A stiletto shoe on top a past century building. Talk about stepping on tradition right there
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