Behind Ukraine’s Weapons: Storm Shadow, ATACMS, StarStreak Missiles and More | WSJ Equipped

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Russia invaded Ukraine nearly two years ago. Since then, countries like the U.S. and U.K. have sent Kyiv weapons like ATACMS missiles and cluster bombs to help its military counter Moscow.
WSJ breaks down Ukraine’s armory to see its potential impact for the ongoing war.
Chapters:
0:00 Breaking down Ukraine's armory
0:18 Storm Shadow missiles
8:18 ATACMS missiles
15:43 StarStreak missiles
20:32 BM-21 Grad rocket launcher
25:30 Cluster bombs
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@andyo8141
@andyo8141 4 місяці тому
Storm Shadows max range is actually 320-340 miles. The UK and France just limit the range for the export versions.
@cjjk9142
@cjjk9142 4 місяці тому
good job uk sent stock from their own supply so it has full range
@jamesthomas4841
@jamesthomas4841 4 місяці тому
Which is why two warships in the far east of Crimea have been destroyed by Storm Shadow. Not to mention a submarine and a ship in the Dry Dock in Sevastapol and the HQ of the Black Sea fleet. @cjjk9142
@streaky81
@streaky81 4 місяці тому
There's no evidence that the SS sent to Ukraine as range-limited export variants, it's just a flawed assumption that the media have made. There might be an agreement to not use them against Russia directly, but the full range would help them bypass Russian air defences in occupied Ukrainian territory and thus be fair game.
@MrArkaneMage
@MrArkaneMage 4 місяці тому
@@jamesthomas4841 I wouldnt call them warships as they were a landing ship and a small landing boat... both super outdated so yeah... gj for clearing low value targets with billion dollar weapons :) The only "high value" target Ukraine managed to clear was the Moskva in the early stages... and that was really pure luck lol plus also a really outdate warship (but a "real" one at least)
@jamesthomas4841
@jamesthomas4841 4 місяці тому
@MrArkaneMage Desperate pro Russian nonsense. The landing ships are arguably of greater strategic value than other units of the Black Sea fleet. However you are ignoring the destruction of one attack submarine and a missile carrying corvette both courtesy of Storm Shadow/Scalp.
@Markle2k
@Markle2k 3 місяці тому
This is more of a historical document than an up-to-date summary of the situation now.
@ruzziasht349
@ruzziasht349 4 місяці тому
Have to say for a tiny country, the Brits do a great job - this and the NLAW are awesome!
@Pootie_Tang
@Pootie_Tang 4 місяці тому
In today's world whether or not a country is tiny or huge in larger proportion than ever before depends on the scale of its economic power rather than on the population or territory
@ruzziasht349
@ruzziasht349 4 місяці тому
@@Pootie_Tang interesting comment..... so how does Russia compare to the UK?
@truthfiction8408
@truthfiction8408 4 місяці тому
​@@ruzziasht349the Russians do have the equivalent of the Storm shadow and even better ones, and in more numbers, so I don't see the excitement about these weapons. If such weapons would determine the battle, then Russia would have won it long ago.
@deefenbakerone4369
@deefenbakerone4369 3 місяці тому
@@truthfiction8408 russia really doesnt have this kind of kit. its biggest problem isnt development its the rampant corruption tech vehicles and fuel all stolen
@iansmith4244
@iansmith4244 2 місяці тому
@@truthfiction8408 HIMARS is nothing special but still did a pretty good job. An upgrade on this and who knows.
@randymeredith-we7cj
@randymeredith-we7cj 4 місяці тому
ATACMS are easy to notice when launched because they shoot at a higher angle and have an extremely large back blast! The smaller GMLRS munitions can shoot at much lower angles. The ATACMS “pods” also resemble the front of all the other munitions as in it looks like a 6 rounder but splits apart at launch with only one missile inside vs 6 rockets.
@mrgrinch837
@mrgrinch837 4 місяці тому
The sneaky little devils!
@AlexP-jz9sg
@AlexP-jz9sg 4 місяці тому
Thanks state department.
@T.ring91
@T.ring91 6 днів тому
ATACMS is launched from the same platform as HIMARs. But being that ATACMS is such a bigger missile the HIMARs launcher can only hold two ATACMS pods where as with HIMARS missiles it can hold six.
@dodo19821
@dodo19821 4 місяці тому
I could be wrong here but from what i've noticed the west is only providing UA with enough weaponry for it not to loose instead of actually giving them the tools it wants/needs to win this war. It took the west months to provide them with modern tanks and apc's and because it took so long it gave the russians more then ample time to dig in and fortify their positions hence the failed long awaited summer offensive.
@ruzasuka
@ruzasuka 4 місяці тому
Well, the public is already hesitant about sending more, and giving them one big very expensive package is not a very good decision. That's probably why they do it over time.
@bf5175
@bf5175 4 місяці тому
You are forgetting the training and logistics that go into supporting this equipment. You can't just give someone a new weapon system without training them how to operate and repair it. You also have to give them parts to repair it with and make sure they have the logistics to properly disseminate the parts/systems. All of these things take time. Giving Ukraine weapons without training and a way to repair the equipment would literally do more harm than good.
@JameBlack
@JameBlack 4 місяці тому
Its likely that the WEST is just ok for this war to las a decade or so. Imagine if in 2033 Ru and UA are still fighting for Donezk and Kherson.
@danielhutchinson6604
@danielhutchinson6604 4 місяці тому
@@bf5175 When we begin to consider all the work that went into establishing Bandera Summer Camps in Western Ukraine, since 1950. After the US trained the Azov guys the appearance of any actual desire of the remaining Citizens of Western Ukraine to die so Wall Street can produce profits by appropriating more weapons to threaten Russian seems to have diminished as fast as the support for Vietnam Domination after the TET Offensive. In 1967 the understanding that US Treasury funds could not afford a War on Poverty, the US began to withdraw support for that conflict, due to a lack of funds. Today as a group of Government Agencies shuffle cash between their departments and buy Treasury Notes and Bonds to insure some image of positive support for the Federal Reserve Note, the appearance of any real ability to provide the funds to hire the Workers to assemble the Weapons, looks pretty difficult to provide? You do need some form of Fiat Dollar that is supported by some actual form of Value, or you will have a Currency that resembles Deutschmarks in Germany between Wars. All the G-7 Guys appear to be suffering from BRICS hiding their former Colonial Empires from the exploitation that was so simple before 2014. So the Murdoch Rag that at one time did provide some form of information before the Internet began to become the source, will give you reassuring information. I was able to find the Wall Street Journal all over the USA during the 1980's as my travels caused me to seek information to decide where the flow of weapons was headed next in those troubled times. After Rupert bought them out, they were still a conservative media source, but we do need to understand that Rupert gets some income from promoting conflicts that sell weapons. The Media Giant did not get to the current position by simply providing facts.
@williamgill5286
@williamgill5286 4 місяці тому
oh thats definitely what weve been doing. Im not sure if they are scared of upsetting russia or scared of having russia lose or if there are some other sort of motives but weve most definitely been drip feeding aid to ukraine instead of supplying them outright with everything they need and more. With that being said, it makes it seem like the goal is to have ukraine weaken russia without giving ukraine enough to win. Idk but thats what it seems like anyway when we could have flooded ukraine with so much more aid but we have not for some strange reason
@ramonpunsalang3397
@ramonpunsalang3397 4 місяці тому
ATACMS are great but the Army has a limited number to transfer to Ukraine. The US should provide JASSM, the equivalent to Storm Shadow,. There are thousands of these in the inventory.
@narutobroken
@narutobroken 4 місяці тому
@@cjjk9142good point. The UK is an island too so they don’t have any immediate threats
@bullerfnis1961
@bullerfnis1961 4 місяці тому
That is actually not true. The US has approximately thousand ATACMS lift in stock and they are old so the US is not going to use them. Actually they are going to dispose of them. So it is a strange thing that they don’t give them to Ukraine because the cost of disposing them is bigger than sending them to Ukraine, so that must be another answer to why the US is not doing it. This is information according to military inside who is giving this information. The development of a new ATACMS is going on as we are speaking and has been going on for sometime, so there’s no reason for not sending them to Ukraine other than politics and other things we are not informed about.
@Dasycottus
@Dasycottus 4 місяці тому
Sadly the JASSM might be the single least likely conventional weapon to go to Ukraine. They're just too prized by the United States.
@genem895
@genem895 4 місяці тому
​@@narutobroken nightmare for British if cheap North Korean water drones will start to control British water😂
@ssaini5028
@ssaini5028 4 місяці тому
All those systems have been destroyed in Ukraine. EU has been sending more Patriots systems to replace them
@daylesanchez2089
@daylesanchez2089 4 місяці тому
I like how he described the firecracker in your hand strait from the movie Armageddon
@markrix
@markrix 4 місяці тому
Every little thing is not a game changer, they need weapons, no super pricey weapons, but ALOT of weapons. Its like bringing a box of paperclips into a newspaper printing factory... Yeah the clip is amazing it keeps papers in order but one box is useless.
@houseoquinnizyodaddy
@houseoquinnizyodaddy 2 місяці тому
For the problem too is you've got a country that's not built for war that has every other country in NATO supplying their equipment and that's who they're relying on so when you have a country like Ukraine going to the US and pretty much saying you need to give us this and you need to give us that as a US taxpayer it really puts a bad taste in your mouth. It's going to come to a point when The US and the rest of NATO is going to get tired of funding this war and they're just going to pull out all together. Watching videos online You just see soldiers blindly shelling from howitzers not realizing that those shells aren't from an endless stock.
@johnpaulwebb3440
@johnpaulwebb3440 4 місяці тому
5:49 Did anyone notice the patch?
@sferris33
@sferris33 4 місяці тому
Definitely Ben Wallace should be the next Secretary General of NATO!
@WilliamEvans-py4gq
@WilliamEvans-py4gq 4 місяці тому
He won't do bro he doesn't even want to be 🇬🇧 MP
@WilliamEvans-py4gq
@WilliamEvans-py4gq 4 місяці тому
Ben is happy as he is many respects from 🇬🇧
@flybobbie1449
@flybobbie1449 4 місяці тому
Grad can be a psychological weapon. Falling random is worse than running away from a known potential target.
@hannsebag8902
@hannsebag8902 4 місяці тому
very good point !
@shaun906
@shaun906 4 місяці тому
excellent report!
@MikusVilsons
@MikusVilsons 4 місяці тому
Ukraine received Storm Shadow missiles in March, 2023 - more than a year after a "three day" ru///ian invasion, and uses these very effectively against the second army in Ukraine. Thank you for support! Better late than never.
@Matt-fl8uy
@Matt-fl8uy 4 місяці тому
It's amazing to think of how many Russians have become sunflower seed since this all started. Maybe they should turn against Putin instead.
@mikeyf103
@mikeyf103 4 місяці тому
Yes your right they use them sparingly and very effectively,a small country with modern weaponry can do very well against a super power
@joeschmoe21
@joeschmoe21 4 місяці тому
US does not care about Ukrainians (maybe Ukrainian mail order brides). US is simply using its money to fight Russia, with Ukrainian blood being shed. It is impossible for US to defeat Russia. Germans, far far superior than US, couldn't defeat Russia. 1 MILLION Germans surrendered to Russia. Same fate awaits US (and Ukrainian mercenaries).
@usernwn7qe
@usernwn7qe 4 місяці тому
Uhm yeah and it STILL didn´t push the Russians back. UKposts has become a western propaganda platform, i wonder how many comments here are due to Ai ?
@prizefighter8699
@prizefighter8699 4 місяці тому
3 day war is western propaganda the Kremlin never said that also they dont recognise Ukraine conflict as war meaning those 3 days are lies
@gardencity3558
@gardencity3558 4 місяці тому
The US and Germany need to decide if they really want to defeat Russia via Ukraine or not. A few hundred long range missels that they can easily supply could take out the Kerch Bridge would bring a good return for a small investment. Seems like a no brainer compared to sending jets.
@trvst5938
@trvst5938 4 місяці тому
It’s a proxy war. Just a money making operation. Anduril is creating AI drone swarms for the U.S. military as the media uses China/ Russia as a funding tool. These defense companies are getting good $$
@rasputindasilva858
@rasputindasilva858 4 місяці тому
Easy boy, the goal is not cross the finish line but keep running, while running the money is flooding once you cross the finish line it stops flooding.
@atomf9143
@atomf9143 4 місяці тому
I agree, but they are also weighing the risks of that. If Germany decides to send a Taurus missile and it gets intercepted, well now the Russians might be able to counter it much more effectively in the future.
@opiebluwsit9751
@opiebluwsit9751 4 місяці тому
Long Island is a smelly hellhole.
@luciangabrielpopescu
@luciangabrielpopescu 4 місяці тому
Wait a minute, I've learned from democratic media that this is NOT a NATO-Russia war on Ukrainian territory and that is all Russian propaganda.
@basic48
@basic48 4 місяці тому
Great detailed video...EXPERT
@emjizone
@emjizone 4 місяці тому
1:04 Actually, the range have been greatly improved since then, because Ukraine just performed a very successful strike in south Crimea, turning an entire weapon carrier into a smoking wreck and causing serious damages all around its dock.
@MrSlugny
@MrSlugny 4 місяці тому
A landing/cargo ship....the same one they hit earlier this year and had just finished repairs
@milosjovicevic6083
@milosjovicevic6083 4 місяці тому
😄😄 CNN brainwashed you
@gdutfulkbhh7537
@gdutfulkbhh7537 4 місяці тому
If the Russians ever learn the truth about this disastrous war, Putin is toast.
@danielhutchinson6604
@danielhutchinson6604 4 місяці тому
@@gdutfulkbhh7537 Russians are used to Western Capitalists attacking them. They saw this conflict coming 20 years ago. The US has been spending money they do not have to present a unified NATO Attack on Russians. What happens to the last three Administrations when the evidence that the Pentagon has funneled cash to discreeth bank accounts, instead of producing weapons? Where did a few trillion Taxpayer Dollars go? Explain that better than Putin explaining how he is outwitting the Capitalists with their own Greed. Putin may be the most visionary leader since Alexander of Greece took over Babylon. Right?
@Arminiuswolfspeer
@Arminiuswolfspeer 4 місяці тому
You read too much propaganda.
@ivandemko3360
@ivandemko3360 4 місяці тому
These weapons blow us ships for Christmas. While Ukraine barely has a navy. Russian fleet is barely present in Crimea anymore. Unbelievable enguinity by the Urkranians.
@allydea
@allydea 4 місяці тому
Yeah, if the Ukrainians were the ones making the Storm Shadow or gather the intel to acquire targets and trajectories for it, or even making the necessary Su-24 modifications to fire the missile, then I would agree that they are very "enguinous".
@prizefighter8699
@prizefighter8699 4 місяці тому
What happened to Ukraine naval ?
@bobh9492
@bobh9492 4 місяці тому
@@prizefighter8699Russia stole most of it in 2014 when they invaded crimea.
@Boomkokogamez
@Boomkokogamez 4 місяці тому
@@prizefighter8699 What bob guy said, and Ukraine intentionally sinking their ship in port to prevent capture when 2022 invasion started.
@hatchxable
@hatchxable 4 місяці тому
Ukraine should have implemented the Minsk agreements and declared neutrality.
@Spaceface3
@Spaceface3 4 місяці тому
Modern warfare is terrifying.
@boredape1257
@boredape1257 4 місяці тому
dude old warfare was even more brutal.
@TemplarX2
@TemplarX2 4 місяці тому
@@boredape1257 Actually no. Modern warfare is more terrifying. Drones hovering over your head at all times and knowing your position. It can feel hopeless. Old warfare, you have the fog of war, your biggest defense.
@gefagnis
@gefagnis 3 місяці тому
@@TemplarX2 he said old warfare was more BRUTAL which is most certainly was, the living conditions and fighting conditions as well as what happens after the battle were barabaric to say the least, sure modern warfare is deadlier but it still was a lot more personal when 80 thousand men are slaughtered by hand on the ancient battlefields
@TemplarX2
@TemplarX2 3 місяці тому
@@gefagnis Modern warfare is more brutal. Have you heard of white phosphorus, claymore mines etc? Getting personal is a more human (maybe not humane) way to fight. The living conditions in the past were not that bad if you were living off your enemy land and loots. In fact, it could be actually exhilarating.
@dbz9393
@dbz9393 Місяць тому
@@TemplarX2 there are counter measures to drones being developed for a squad on the battlefield. It's not all hopeless, Ukraine has already patent a gun that uses signals to destroy drones
@sagittarius_a3307
@sagittarius_a3307 3 місяці тому
Here in US, media and people have turned attention from Ukraine, towards the Middle East, and our own weather.... We cannot forget Ukraine! I'm glad to see 1.6M views in 1 month. Some of us are still paying attention.
@terryluckhurst4114
@terryluckhurst4114 4 місяці тому
A more effective offensive surface to surface projectile (mobile) for UKR would be one that describes a parabolic trajectory and reaches an altitude of about 100-150 kilometres, ie an upgraded and smaller V2 with precision target acquisition, ie GPS. The rapid descent from such altitude would be far greater to detect and take down till it's too late. Ground or airborne launched projectiles are easier to detect or ecm-jam and take down and would use as stated INS, GPS and terrain following radar. Think outside the box to hit the bullseye.
@ashleygoggs5679
@ashleygoggs5679 4 місяці тому
the closer to the earth it is the better. anything that high in the sky is extremely detectable. Russias high end air missiles are extremely capable. Dont under estimate them. the reason SS has been so effective thus far is becuase its beyond detectable until it does its nose dive before impact.
@terryluckhurst4114
@terryluckhurst4114 4 місяці тому
Not when they descend at hypersonic (Mach 5) as in the case of the V2. Closer to the surface is easy to detect from AWACS and easy to deceive as we did in the Falklands War with Exocets. Active array radar with electronic phase shifters (multiple receive anntenna steerable beams) vis a vis F15E AESA is also effective at detecting low flying cruise missiles which are not normally faster than 500mph. Your argument is too subjective. @@ashleygoggs5679
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 4 місяці тому
Don’t think we need to break out the old V2 blueprints just yet…🙂
@ZiGGi03
@ZiGGi03 4 місяці тому
Atacams weren’t sent because we didn’t have a replacement at the start of the war, now we do the Prism system i think . With 2024 atacams can be sent on a 1 to 1 basis so when a prisim is made they can send a atacams . We only send Ukraine weapons the money gets spent here in production of new weapons we use replace the old stock we send Ukraine. A replacement is GLSDB but that has been delayed and is alot cheaper than atacams . Like 4 times cheaper do for 1 atacams u get 4 GLSDB . Helping Ukrainian people helps us .
@chaoticneutral6729
@chaoticneutral6729 4 місяці тому
You have replacement - there is a production line for ATACMS in the US. Moreover, you've found some ATACMS to send to Morocco. I don't see any war going on in Morocco, or even upcoming there.
@ZiGGi03
@ZiGGi03 4 місяці тому
@@chaoticneutral6729 atacams didn’t have a replacement at the start of this war . The Prisim missile system got fast tracked to 2024 because Ukraine want the long range atacams but because China are our next threat we needed to have the atacams incase China started anything so while this war was ongoing the prisim system was started now that is in place and production is next year USA would send a one for one when a prisim gets made a atacams can get released as we only send old stock to Ukraine and we make new stuff for ourselves. This has been said before not only by me .
@ZiGGi03
@ZiGGi03 4 місяці тому
@@chaoticneutral6729 they have contracts they need to stand bye . Or you get fines . . We should be sending them in my opinion but I’m only saying why we didn’t . Jake Broe has a UKposts channel he’s former military and funker530 American combat veteran and many others have mentioned why I’m not saying anything new
@seanbrown701
@seanbrown701 4 місяці тому
Zig, who do you expect to be at war at, and what munitions could be needed.
@necroflounder
@necroflounder 4 місяці тому
You can send what you like, but it only justifies reprisal and the line going that much further to ensure Russian security concerns. As Mearsheimer said, you are leading them to destruction.
@davidrobertson5700
@davidrobertson5700 4 місяці тому
The most factually accurate documentary so far, thank you for admitting Great Britain 🇬🇧 led the way We are with you Ukraine 🇬🇧 Slava Ukraini
@animationx2894
@animationx2894 4 місяці тому
Britain is the center of world civilization, thank you, the great British
@Eugenetra7
@Eugenetra7 4 місяці тому
Thank you for your support, we really appreciate it.
@davidrobertson5700
@davidrobertson5700 4 місяці тому
@@Eugenetra7 🇬🇧👍🇺🇦
@PatRiarchy-qw6cp
@PatRiarchy-qw6cp 4 місяці тому
​@@animationx2894not really. Since WW2 Britain has been a vassal of the US and now can't even maintain it's own culture in the face of an onslaught of immigration. London will be a Muslim stronghold within a decade
@elzorro7of9
@elzorro7of9 14 днів тому
@@animationx2894 Every problem in the world right now can be traced to the British
@RidingOnLight
@RidingOnLight 4 місяці тому
5:48 Z battalion sponsored by backrock and pornhub 😂
@LittleMakwa
@LittleMakwa 4 місяці тому
5:50 Beautiful patch
@Kolor-kode
@Kolor-kode 4 місяці тому
The supplied Storm Shadow is software locked to 155 miles. The missile is capable of reaching nearly 350 miles.
@danielomingomingsr9203
@danielomingomingsr9203 4 місяці тому
That's smart.
@suburbia2050
@suburbia2050 4 місяці тому
The export version is restricted, but Ukraine got UK stocks
@suburbia2050
@suburbia2050 4 місяці тому
The export version is restricted, but Ukraine got UK stock
@Kolor-kode
@Kolor-kode 4 місяці тому
@@suburbia2050 and it's artificially restricted to 155 miles
@cjjk9142
@cjjk9142 4 місяці тому
no the uk has not limited them. this has been debunked
@mso1ps4
@mso1ps4 4 місяці тому
Remember last year when Putin threatened to use nuclear weapons if Ukraine were to receive long-range missiles? Pepperidge farm remembers.
@abrakadavra3193
@abrakadavra3193 4 місяці тому
No, nobody remembers this because it never happened.
@ssaini5028
@ssaini5028 4 місяці тому
I cant find the nuclear threat from Putin anywhere
@SARCASTICLES
@SARCASTICLES 4 місяці тому
"Pepperidge farm remembers". Man, that was so cold I had to crank up the heat.
@ThisNoName
@ThisNoName 4 місяці тому
@@ssaini5028 Russia's position has always been go nuclear if its existence felt threatened. In other words, this war has only two outcomes: Russian wins, or EVERYONE dies. That everyone literally means every single living being, anywhere on the planet, friend or foe
@ssaini5028
@ssaini5028 4 місяці тому
@@ThisNoName Putin only explained the same Nuclear doctrine the west has adopted. Just like the west, if Russias very existence was at stake they would retaliate with its nuclear arsenal (just like the west). Russia has recently changed their defense only nuclear protocols to first strike. Same as the US, again show me where Russia has threaten anyone with Nuclear weapons?
@trevortrevortsr2
@trevortrevortsr2 4 місяці тому
The Brits are now sending "Martlet" which is a little slower than Startreak but uses the same targeting system - It has a single proximity fragmentary warhead better suited to kill drones and Helicopters - about equal to being hit by a 40mm shell - perhaps more importantly it is still in production
@mrgrinch837
@mrgrinch837 4 місяці тому
I've worked firing tow missiles for over 20 years. I cannot imagine what it's like to try to keep a laser spot on a moving and maneuvering airplane. That I got to see to believe.
@dogsnads5634
@dogsnads5634 4 місяці тому
@@mrgrinch837 Here's the thing....you don't keep a laser spot on the target....the video is wrong. Starstreak and LMM (not Martlet, thats the name of the Royal Navy Wildcat and LMM combination) are laser beam riding. The operator just keeps the target in the sight, the system does the rest. It projects a 'grid' of laser light into the air. The missiles laser seekers actually point backwards to the launcher (so you can't jam them) by referencing this grid they know where they are and move accordingly to intercept. This also means the target will not detect it has been targeted as no laser light is 'painted' on it.
@squidwardo7074
@squidwardo7074 4 місяці тому
@@mrgrinch837 yeah that launcher weighs like 70 lbs. would be quite difficult to hit something with 70 lbs on your shoulder... imagine trying to aim a 70 lb rifle
@basanttyagi7516
@basanttyagi7516 18 днів тому
how's your economy going "mate"?! lol.
@revanshan2484
@revanshan2484 4 місяці тому
Great piece, but what's with the product placement? 5:48
@nick4819
@nick4819 4 місяці тому
The ATACMS isn't the equivalent of a Storm Shadow/SCALP. The equivalent would be the Tomahawk. Except the Tomahawk has a MUCH longer range.
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 4 місяці тому
Not really, Tomahawk is closer to something like Kalibr. It’s a large, long-range heavy duty cruise missile that’s launched from surface ships and submarines. It’s far too large for air-launch. ATACMs isn’t an exact analogy either, I’ll grant, but it’s closer.
@nick4819
@nick4819 4 місяці тому
@@grahamstrouse1165 Tomahawk is only 4ft longer than Storm Shadow. Size isn't that much difference. ATACMS also is only a boost-glide. It's nothing like a cruise missile. Not even close.
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 4 місяці тому
@@nick4819That’s not insignificant, though. Storm Shadow is pushing the weight limits for most strike aircraft as is. That said, the mass difference between Storm Shadow & Tomahawk isn’t as great as I thought it was (without the Tomhawak’s booster.) I do kinda see your point now. One substantial difference is that Storm Shadow is high-subsonic & most versions of Tomahawk cruise along at roughly the same speed as an airliner. Also the fact that we don’t have any ground or ship-based version of Storm Shadow & every version of Tomahawk I’m aware of is surface launched. I suppose you could sling a few under a B-52. BTW: My understanding is that the USN is reviving the TASM. I just don’t know whether it’s really suited for that kind of job anymore is the thing. Is it going to be getting some kind of high-speed terminal boost phase, countermeasures or something like that? Interceptors are SO much more precise than they were when TASM was taken out of service. I apologize for being rude, btw.
@MikusVilsons
@MikusVilsons 4 місяці тому
It is an old material re-published. There are talks about Ukrainian counter-offensive, which happened on July - September. Thank you for support! Much more needed!
@CarpeDiem13x
@CarpeDiem13x 4 місяці тому
Hey Ivan, did you get your rubbles ?
@photosynthesis69
@photosynthesis69 4 місяці тому
@@CarpeDiem13xit’s the truth tho. This is either entirely an older video that’s been re-uploaded, or at least parts of it have been recycled.
@disillusioned8686
@disillusioned8686 4 місяці тому
Yes, Ukraine has already received all these systems
@cbbbgbbb497
@cbbbgbbb497 4 місяці тому
Russia already won. Fak off
@nickv.5748
@nickv.5748 4 місяці тому
Ukraine offensive is in reverse !
@roderickflint1330
@roderickflint1330 4 місяці тому
Well made video. ;)
@MaXwellFalstein
@MaXwellFalstein 4 місяці тому
Many ATACMS will be sent to Ukraine and NATO partners because the Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) is coming onstream with the first PrSM received by the US Army on 8th December 2023. ATACMS has a range of 190 miles (300 km). PrSM has a range in excess of 310 miles (500 km). The PrSM is thinner and sleeker than the ATACMS allowing for two PrSMs per ATACMS launch pod resulting in double the amount of missiles carried by M270 MLRS and M142 HIMARS.
@justinhealey-htcohio3798
@justinhealey-htcohio3798 4 місяці тому
This video really is truly exceptional work! I'm sick and tired of the countless 5-10 min brief summary videos posted on UKposts that do not dive deep into the granular details of the Ukraine war... Although this video leaves something to be desired, it would be better if a video like this was released every week or a couple times per week.... Ukraine is a massive country and, there are many details that could be covered. in fact, you could slice up the front line into 100 small segments and dedicate a 30-minute video to each of them with a thorough explanation of the terrain, soil content, strategic and tactical junction points. As well as every single village occupied by RU🇷🇺🐖...
@gamingsu-sauer3530
@gamingsu-sauer3530 4 місяці тому
In my opinion this is just a video that scratches the surface of this conflict it’s not really a deep dive if you want to hear deepdives I recommend perun
@allydea
@allydea 4 місяці тому
There are plenty of channels on YT that have this kind of content. Hint: the good ones don't refer to the Russians as "pigs".
@kiabtoomlauj6249
@kiabtoomlauj6249 4 місяці тому
The unfortunately thing about well done videos like this is that by the time they're uploaded, they're sever weeks to sever months outdated, as this one showed. Sometimes they include a post-video production note; other times they don't, so if you're staying abreast on the situation in Ukraine on a daily basis, you immediately know this was done weeks to months before ATACMS were provided to Ukraine. And ATACMS were provided to Ukraine before October; some of the known, actual use of ATACMS started around mid October-ish.
@gamingsu-sauer3530
@gamingsu-sauer3530 4 місяці тому
@@kiabtoomlauj6249 yeah thought the same but I guess there’s nobody here that wants to discuss Russian tank production numbers for an hour
@kyber1fun164
@kyber1fun164 4 місяці тому
They did initially publish this over many months, as a series of shorter videos. That's why they talk about Ukraine wanting ATACMS (which Ukraine actually deployed over 2 months ago in October), and why they identify Ben Wallace as UK Secretary of State for Defence (a position he resigned from on August 31, almost 4 months ago).
@bryce6870
@bryce6870 4 місяці тому
I throughly enjoyed this informative piece. You covered alot of didn't types of munitions! Thank you
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 4 місяці тому
This was a solid story.
@billbellell9462
@billbellell9462 2 місяці тому
Accuracy is the biggest difference between western weapons and Russian weapons. That accuracy lessens the danger of collateral damage.
@19loquillo86
@19loquillo86 4 місяці тому
For starters, what offensive? is that located in la, la, la Land? Storm shadows are not changing anything or haven't you watched the news lately?
@logiczchance101
@logiczchance101 4 місяці тому
they use it in the following manner: nato provides the equipment, nato provides the operators, nato provides the surveillance intelligence, nato provides the salaries for any remaining ukrainian soldier, nato takes the ultimate decision of what and where to hit, nato delivers the payload when the moment is right. so really, ukraine is not even in the picture anymore.
@deanperkins2091
@deanperkins2091 4 місяці тому
I have no clue what the graph at 22:25 represents. 32.8 feet from what, the impact? isn't 50 feet the lethal radius?
@WilliamEvans-py4gq
@WilliamEvans-py4gq 4 місяці тому
More than 50feet try further
@drewdabbs418
@drewdabbs418 3 місяці тому
Even 300ft is very close to launcher. It makes no sense
@andigossweiler1551
@andigossweiler1551 4 місяці тому
95% percent of the money that is spend to support Ukraine never leaves the country of the production faciilities of these weapons. This means, it's money for workers, suppliers and taxpayers in these countries. I think, this is a great investment in the own industrial capacities and defence industry to save the freedom and prosperity of all of us here in the Western democraties. In Russland in comparison, every second or three quarters of a rubel lands in the pocket of the corrupt oligarchy class!
@nickv.5748
@nickv.5748 4 місяці тому
😂😂😂,,you are silly !
@firebearfl643
@firebearfl643 5 днів тому
I absolutely love the use of small drones. They're like little buzzing mosquitoes swat at them all you want, but that never eliminates them.
@HKim0072
@HKim0072 4 місяці тому
4:08 He's using the lines from the film, Armageddon! (I think I made this same comment in a earlier video)
@cybronichuman
@cybronichuman 4 місяці тому
So many Wunderwaffen that cost millions while cheap drones rule the battlefield
@maxg4304
@maxg4304 4 місяці тому
You have no idea what that word means😂
@scotthenderson292
@scotthenderson292 4 місяці тому
Cheap drones work well at attacking isolated infantry and observation. But bigger targets like command centersnand ships require bigger and more expensive missiles.
@cybronichuman
@cybronichuman 4 місяці тому
@@maxg4304 don't project your insecurities onto others pal
@kealeradecal6091
@kealeradecal6091 4 місяці тому
Cheap drone to attack civilian infrastructure like powerplant, seems legit
@TheKakan1337
@TheKakan1337 4 місяці тому
@@cybronichuman Russia 🇷🇺 would have lost the war in 3 days without the West. Wonder where all their weapons come from? Of course the west! Investigative journalists uncovered that over 30 components for their UAV came from the West, the rest was from China. It shows the lack of sophistication when Russia needs to use off-the-shelf components as they are not able to produce them themselves.
@streaky81
@streaky81 4 місяці тому
An important thing to know about Storm Shadow is that they're surplus kit - aside from the fact they're all going EOL very soon to be replaced by SPEAR 5 as a direct replacement, the UK is moving to TLAM block 5, at some point the UK is going to have to destroy them which is an expensive process; by handing as many as feasibly possible to Ukraine without completely diminishing capability of last resort (which is covered by Trident anyway) they're all up for grabs over the next four years. People seem to miss this important fact - they're not going to be replaced in the stockpiles, and they're bought and paid for, so they are effectively zero cost to give to Ukraine outside a C-17 airlift to Poland or whatever they're doing; which is almost certainly cheaper and safer than destroying them otherwise.
@jamesgornall5731
@jamesgornall5731 4 місяці тому
You're saying that disposing of them by helping poison Ukraine is a good thing? That's a reason to send them?
@danwright1794
@danwright1794 4 місяці тому
It’s just great to learn that Ukraine is winning ! Let’s keep sending the money and keep this proxy death trap going . At least till the 2024 election! Then .. who cares …
@efghggdxlmfn33
@efghggdxlmfn33 4 місяці тому
Storm Shadow missiles are already in Russian weapon laboratories
@streaky81
@streaky81 4 місяці тому
@@efghggdxlmfn33a) that's not how that works b) even if it was Russia couldn't handle them, it'd be more like China c) so what, they're ancient tech.
@streaky81
@streaky81 4 місяці тому
@@jamesgornall5731In even if I didn't reject your assessment entirely, you're going to have to explain in what way Storm Shadow is poisoning Ukraine.
@sigi9669
@sigi9669 4 місяці тому
10:41 Misleading. Yes, there are variants of the ATACMS which can reach 190 miles (300 km). But as you've previously correctly stated that Ukraine got the older "bigger boom, smaller engine" one, the range is actually only about half that (100 miles/160 km).
@johnwalsh4857
@johnwalsh4857 4 місяці тому
the USA already sent ATACMs with cluster munition warheads, very good at hitting Russian trenches, moving supply convoys, and also Russian artillery parks. this was why the Russian offensive in the east was a flop and very flow since the Russian logistics there got hit hard. Also in the south the Russians experienced artillery and ammo shortage due to ATACM clusters being used vs. Russian artillery parks. it was so bad a Russian general complained of artillery shortage in the south.
@quinnard9750
@quinnard9750 4 місяці тому
Pro Ukraine propaganda Russia is advancing and will keep advancing
@TorbisINACTIVE
@TorbisINACTIVE 4 місяці тому
They only sent a dozen ATACMs, which was used on the Berdyansk Airfield against helicopters.
@meesamkhan4767
@meesamkhan4767 4 місяці тому
@@quinnard9750 kherson and kharkiv disagree
@kravkik7930
@kravkik7930 4 місяці тому
​@@quinnard9750They're advancing to their deaths while the rich Russian elites enjoy their christmas in their warm homes. 2 years, 300,000 casualties and only 17% of Ukraine's territory to show for it. What was the point? Even though Nato is supporting Ukraine, if Russia is struggling this hard in a proxy war against the west while being supported by China, how do they expect to win a full blown war against Nato?
@Djamonja
@Djamonja 4 місяці тому
@@TorbisINACTIVE I'm shocked they told you how many they sent.
@paulmakinson1965
@paulmakinson1965 4 місяці тому
You don't win wars by being hesitant or timid.
@ahsanmohammed1
@ahsanmohammed1 4 місяці тому
22:11 Sentence structure about grad hit flawed. Noticed a similar anomaly earlier as well. AI preparing these. Has holes.
@harrypothead4575
@harrypothead4575 4 місяці тому
What weapons can be used against these storm shadow and atacms?
@peterplotts1238
@peterplotts1238 4 місяці тому
I understood the U.S. used anti-personnel cluster munitions extensively in the European theater during World War II.
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 4 місяці тому
We didn’t really have anything resembling cluster munitions during WWII. We’d only just developed proximity fusing for our heavy AA guns during WWII and that was VERY hush-hush. Cluster munitions are far more complex.
@peterplotts1238
@peterplotts1238 4 місяці тому
I remember reading that the Allies dropped a fragmentation munition that exploded roughly five feet from the ground on advancing German troops, resulting in the total breakdown of the attack. Maybe I overstated the point, though.@@grahamstrouse1165
@nullnull3355
@nullnull3355 4 місяці тому
When someone says that something is forbidden in war thats already a weakness.
@danielhutchinson6604
@danielhutchinson6604 4 місяці тому
The ability to discuss the funds available to support any further conflicts, is forbidden as well. As the G-7 sinks into economic despair, their former Colonies appear to trade behind a BRICS Wall....
@davin1287
@davin1287 4 місяці тому
No it's not, underestimating someone in a war is weakness. If someone tells you something is forbidden and you believe them than you're an idiot.
@danielhutchinson6604
@danielhutchinson6604 4 місяці тому
@@davin1287 Who decides what is forbidden in an Economic War?
@TheKakan1337
@TheKakan1337 4 місяці тому
@@danielhutchinson6604 Very true! Just look at the Chinese hegemony, Russia 🇷🇺 sold out its sovereignty signing the BRICS agreement. The clowns in the state Duma have sold their industries and land to Chinese entities. They even made the Russian duma illegally confiscate EU companies and factories inside Russia 🇷🇺 that then got transferred to China.
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 4 місяці тому
I tend to agree, with some qualifications.
@JBassamore
@JBassamore 4 місяці тому
4:05 He quotes Jason Isaacs aka Ronald Quincy from the movie Armageddon about the firecracker blowing up the meteor in the planning room lol
@charleslefurge8696
@charleslefurge8696 4 місяці тому
Good grief. The cost and availability of an ATACMS is and has been a non-factor in this war.
@Tavychevsky2011
@Tavychevsky2011 4 місяці тому
As a courtesy for the rest of the world could you please use in your descriptions also the metric system (at least visually) ? Although your videos are well documented I don't feel like going back in time and convert all the miles and the inches to kilometers and millimeters. Thanks!
@Belisarius1967
@Belisarius1967 4 місяці тому
It's not complicated. 1 Mile = 1.6 Kilometre
@gdswghdsCjiirwe
@gdswghdsCjiirwe 4 місяці тому
Liberia, Myanmar and USA. Only countries not using metric.
@robertvinarao2638
@robertvinarao2638 4 місяці тому
Salute to UK for this invincible weapon.
@ayax2134
@ayax2134 3 місяці тому
well, it was vencible after all
@mikeroch200
@mikeroch200 15 днів тому
Far from invincible. Russia's been shooting down storm shadows. They're just more expensive waste of taxpayer money to support a corrupt Ukrainian regime.
@bobbabouy8537
@bobbabouy8537 4 місяці тому
5:49 ahhh yes a man of culture I see
@omegaz3393
@omegaz3393 4 місяці тому
The U.S. should be able to supply ATACMS at the rate of the PrSM's being manufactured to replace them. The PrSM's went into low rate production in late fall of 2022. This low rate production is like a shake down cruise. To determine if full production rockets come off the assembly line as intended. Also to detect any manufacturing process that may have issues and correcting. This limited production was completed around September 2023. Full on production should be in full ramp up mode. Thus sometime in early 2024(Jan/Feb) they should be operating at full capacity. Each one produced should allow one ATACMS ready to ship to Ukraine. It's possible these shipments are already in process.
@asimkasir
@asimkasir 4 місяці тому
Ukraine as test operator😂 Russia as test targets..
@rhyceise9000
@rhyceise9000 4 місяці тому
The Middle East is where Russia will test weaponry on US outposts, it goes both ways.
@MythicPlague
@MythicPlague 4 місяці тому
If you want to see what a hand looks like after a firecracker look up a football player who played for the New York Giants and Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jason Pierre-Paul. It was a horrible accident. Especially with a really nice man who is talented in American NFL.
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 4 місяці тому
I remember that! That was so awful…
@isaacbrown4506
@isaacbrown4506 3 місяці тому
ATACMS isn't the US equivalent to Storm Shadow/SCALP. The ATACMS is the Army's equivalent, JASSM/JASSM-ER is our equivalent of Storm Shadow, and the Anti-Ship version with an even longer range of 1,000 miles is LRASM
@glennridsdale577
@glennridsdale577 4 місяці тому
Starstreak is MUCH faster than Stinger - 700+ mph faster, in fact. Storm Shadows in RAF service have a range of at least 340 miles, but those donated to Ukraine apparently have smaller fuel tanks. This is a mistake which is likely to cost us all dear: Russia needs to take significant damage to infrastructure on its own territory to allow Ukraine to bring the war to any successful or even remotely acceptable conclusion.
@valeriegillet473
@valeriegillet473 3 місяці тому
And you think that the NATO countries will be safe let’s not forget one thing Russia owns nuclear power and whatever it is what will do in return the USA will never put Hollywood in danger since if Ukraine receives few weapons it is because NATO together has no more stock Russia is demilitarising them to the bone 🦴
@fernandorondon8650
@fernandorondon8650 4 місяці тому
At first I thought this would be a useful overview. Yet I repeatedly found it annoying that whoever wrote and edited the script for this piece are unfamiliar with military terminology. For example, the narrator repeatedly says "gunman," instead of "gunner," to describe the soldier who fires an artillery system. Doesn't the WSJ have any military veterans or experienced war reporters or consultants on its staff? In addition, this article presents information that is several weeks or months out of date as if it were current, such as regarding U.S. supply of ATACMS missiles to Ukraine. Come on, WSJ, you can do better than this.
@ivan200804
@ivan200804 4 місяці тому
No, WSJ does not hire from lower classes. Your job is to die for the corporations, not to think or have an opinion.
@squidwardo7074
@squidwardo7074 4 місяці тому
lets be real all news does that
@BradHudgins-kl8pz
@BradHudgins-kl8pz 4 місяці тому
This video says 3 days ago but cluster bombs have been in Ukraine for months
@Derlascar
@Derlascar 4 місяці тому
Got the firecracker analogy wrong btw. ‘Close the firecracker around your fist ‘ ? Back to front. 😬
@Joelmonterrey
@Joelmonterrey 4 місяці тому
Over 500 years of Russian colonialism stopped in Ukraine using just a few weapons that Western nations pulled out of the garage.
@j4genius961
@j4genius961 4 місяці тому
"Just a few weapons" don't push the envelope my guy some of these countries are almost out of ammo with the BILLIONS worth of weapons they've already sent you😭
@ssaini5028
@ssaini5028 4 місяці тому
According to CNN, I bet you still believe Iraq has WMDs
@proxyicarcus
@proxyicarcus 4 місяці тому
​@@j4genius961 Don't spread bogus. First, even Poland just bought 10x more high tech weaponry in 1 month than was ever delivered to Ukraine in 2 years lol. Second, ammo isn't stockpiled anymore, it's produced based on demand. ammo is reloaded into a weapon, restocked on site, delivered to site, produced as needed. Ukraine can't produce munitions on mass scale since factories are within strike Russian missile range. Second, what was sent to Ukraine is the old scraps that the militaries are scheduled to be replacing anyways, and now the majority of countries are boosting their militaries.
@twirlyturd4364
@twirlyturd4364 4 місяці тому
Yep that’s why marinka fell yesterday
@j4genius961
@j4genius961 4 місяці тому
@@proxyicarcus So we should see highly advanced new weapons flooding into Ukraine very soon right? Because I've been hearing the old scraps theory since the beginning of this "special military operation".You would think western countries would've ramped up the production by now...Unless they can't
@user-py8gb5rr1h
@user-py8gb5rr1h 4 місяці тому
Interesting at 549 in the video no one at the WSJ noticed the photoshopped Porn Hub label on the soilder's chest. Great editing!
@Djreactions831
@Djreactions831 3 місяці тому
I peeped there was a man of culture among us.
@Drunkendrakon
@Drunkendrakon 4 місяці тому
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't.
@eugeneminton2613
@eugeneminton2613 13 днів тому
couldn't a starsteek also work as an anti material /vehicle/structural attack vehicle with its kinetic (striker) darts? i'm curious on the armor/material penetration of such.
@JeffBilkins
@JeffBilkins 13 днів тому
the dart's effect is not kinetic but blast fragmentation. but it'd be fun to see what happens as they are made of tungsten and go pretty fast.
@Aman-uu7vi
@Aman-uu7vi 4 місяці тому
To be honest, it looks like the Nato alliance doesn't wan Ukraine to win, they have only supplied just enough so that Ukraine doesn't lose. Ukraine's biggest mistake in this war was they didn't start preparing in advance when they had credible inputs about invasion only to protect there economy which eventually is destroyed. Had they mobilised earlier and built static defences, they might have still kept some of the territory they lost.
@Digitalbanjare
@Digitalbanjare 4 місяці тому
at least UK gave storm shadows. US/Germany are the real culprits
@maxg4304
@maxg4304 4 місяці тому
You have to remember that Ukraine was the poorest nation in Europe pre war. They simply couldn’t afford to build up sufficiently. Thankfully, they were able to stuff the initial invasion and buy time for aid from NATO and the EU. I would say the US and EU really dropped the ball back in 2014 though.
@vMufasa
@vMufasa 4 місяці тому
@@maxg4304 you can thank Obama for that... i was a supporter and even voted for him in his first term... but he really proved to be a dud...
@bobh9492
@bobh9492 4 місяці тому
Let’s be fair… only a few nato nations were prepared and had spare munitions let alone tanks. Poland you are a superstar as are the baltics and others that supported early on with fuel and safe places for Ukrainian People.
@bobh9492
@bobh9492 4 місяці тому
@@vMufasamilitary budgets always go up try again to blame Obama for something… we know it’s all conservatards ever had.
@achilleasmanousakis4622
@achilleasmanousakis4622 4 місяці тому
I don't understand why we are not sending more weapons?! We send old stuff we will replace anyway. ATACMS is already 30 years old!
@PatRiarchy-qw6cp
@PatRiarchy-qw6cp 4 місяці тому
Because we can't
@jdogdarkness
@jdogdarkness 4 місяці тому
True. Reason, primarily the GOP. 2nd reason, I sadly think the US would prefer to draw out the war. With the intent being to weaken Russia militarily & geopolitically. Biden admin would say it's "to avoid escalation". But I'm 99% sure that's just non sense. The US had sent alot (before GOP stopped funding) but it always came a week late, & a dollar short. Always withholding the most impact full types of weaponry. (Cruise missiles, long range fires, F16). If the US had gone all in at the beginning, Ukraine would be in a MUCH better position. The institute for the study of war has repeatedly mentioned this in its analysis. (It's run by widely respected & well known retired Generals & analysts) its a really fascinating organization & website. You should check it out. They also give daily analysis on the tactical & strategic landscape & events in Ukraine.
@jdogdarkness
@jdogdarkness 4 місяці тому
Finally, the US FINALLY approved ATACMS transfer within days of US military starting to receive the ATACMS replacement- PRSM. But US stockpile of ATACMS is "small" by US standards, which insists on having enough munitions to fight BOTH China & Russia AT THE SAME TIME lol. Basically, they keep ATACMS close by for emotional support munitions stock pile lol.
@lancerudy9934
@lancerudy9934 4 місяці тому
Great video
@emjizone
@emjizone 2 дні тому
28:39 *Modern* cluster munitions do not have a lower failure rate than conventional munitions, while they are much more effective in most cases. *If you tried to achieve the same effect in combat with conventional munitions, you would end up with even more unexploded ordnance in the ground and an even greater risk after the battle.* Older cluster munitions are different and not so reliable.
@davidpearn5925
@davidpearn5925 4 місяці тому
Why hasn’t Russia been declared a terrorist state?.
@dayforit1750
@dayforit1750 4 місяці тому
We all know that is it, its merely a formality.
@davidpearn5925
@davidpearn5925 4 місяці тому
@@dayforit1750 I guess the SCOTUS would see it another way >6\3.
@magnem1043
@magnem1043 4 місяці тому
The cluster munitions issue is just the US tryna get rid of dead weight inventory because of the controversy around their use
@VajrahahaShunyata
@VajrahahaShunyata 4 місяці тому
No
@Kulayyu
@Kulayyu 4 місяці тому
More like palming off old duds to Ukraine, and asking US taxpayers to pay full price for replacement from a greedy MIC. The US is shameless, controversy is a mere political tool, both foreign and domestic use.
@T.ring91
@T.ring91 6 днів тому
What you showed blowing up was not cluster munitions. You'll know when a cluster munution goes off cause it looks like a 100 different explosions going off at once covering about a 100 yards or so.
@trevermcdonald2402
@trevermcdonald2402 4 місяці тому
Storm Shaddow comes in two versions, short range as seen in Ukraine or long range which has not been sent to Ukraine yet.
@user-gq5kc1ow7k
@user-gq5kc1ow7k 4 місяці тому
thank God the UK and French governments provided these missiles. UK taxpayer
@companymen42
@companymen42 4 місяці тому
The US tends to feed itself before giving to other, and once the ATACAMS replacement is delivered, the US will probably donate more of the older ATACAMS
@john_in_phoenix
@john_in_phoenix 4 місяці тому
The US sold more ATACMS to other countries than it purchased for itself. The vast majority of the US stockpile is in South Korea for good reason. Despite what many (mistakenly) believe, there are not thousands just laying around waiting to be sent. Certainly the delivery of the replacement system will free up some, but don't count on a sudden deluge.
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 4 місяці тому
The thing is the army doesn’t really NEED them. These are weapons which were designed to fight a land war in Europe. They wouldn’t be of much use in a conflict with China. The only other theater we might get in a major scrum in is the ME & ATACMS simply aren’t as valuable for that kind of fighting. Unless we’re planning on starting a land war with Canada I just don’t see the need to keep hoarding the things. Granted, Canada IS stupidly rich in natural resources & they have some of the world’s largest unspoiled fresh water reserves. Canada will also likely be one of the main beneficiaries of global warming in the next couple decades. Rising temperatures open up huge swathes of previously marginal land for human habitation & farming. And sea ice melt will likely make the Northwest passage not only vital but very lucrative. Okay, I changed my mind. Let’s save some ATACMs for Canada. Does Justin Bieber qualify as a causus belli just by existing and making terrible music or does he have to do something first?
@geraldboykin6159
@geraldboykin6159 2 дні тому
Storm Shadows triple up on penetration of its target plus it has an internal battling ram.
@CM-ey7nq
@CM-ey7nq 4 місяці тому
The WJS seriously needs an interview with the UKR Operator Starsky :)
@RabidPrairieDog
@RabidPrairieDog 4 місяці тому
And that's why demand has increased for Western arms and decreased for Russian arms in the last year. I was reading about orders for Patriot batteries and HIMARS have increased to almost a 5-year backlog while militaries are now rethinking the effectiveness of the S-400.
@niarlatotepbasset
@niarlatotepbasset 4 місяці тому
yeah...sure 😏
@jamiequamina8810
@jamiequamina8810 4 місяці тому
only in Hollywood studios with your fantasy keep on dreaming Western weapons are garbage
@tyrus1686
@tyrus1686 4 місяці тому
Hope Turkey kept the receipts for S-400 they bought, its junk lol
@salahidin
@salahidin 4 місяці тому
The SCALP/Storm Shadow has a much longer range. But France and the UK decided to downgrade it for Ukrainians. Taurus does not have a longer range. It is comparable. At least from what we know publicly.
@BigDaddyButthead90
@BigDaddyButthead90 4 місяці тому
British military always downplays stats, the non export version can probably travel at least 700km, the French sub launched launched version with boosters can travel 1000km+
@neantis
@neantis 4 місяці тому
It's the export version that has a lower range. nothing against Ukraine in particular
@IMBlakeley
@IMBlakeley 4 місяці тому
From last I looked at this there's the export version that Ukraine has, the conventional one with a stated 500+km range used by the British and French air forces, there's some suggestion the RAF have hit targets at greater distance than that. The French navy has or is waiting on a newer 1200km ship launched version.
@OiOiSillyBoi
@OiOiSillyBoi 4 місяці тому
They didn’t downgrade it, they simply sent the export variant.
@salahidin
@salahidin 4 місяці тому
there is no export variant in French and UK stocks. The have been downgraded to meet export standards, which happen to be enough for Ukranians to hit tragets in Ukraine only. @@OiOiSillyBoi
@tomic0ie
@tomic0ie 4 місяці тому
by today its numbers just made close to 0 , to be effective you need to be 1 -1.5 range of max target distance and 3:1 of target counts .... to get more area you will need 300km range and 3 times amount
@guxershmeg
@guxershmeg 4 місяці тому
Aren't cluster bombs prohibited? Why are they still produced?
@jhngfdsdfgkjnbv
@jhngfdsdfgkjnbv 4 місяці тому
the pathetic bubble of the Western military-industrial complex cannot produce artillery shells in the required quantity and therefore Ukraine was supplied with outdated cluster shells that explode 50%
@conniepr
@conniepr 4 місяці тому
Russia's being followed by a Storm Shadow, Storm Shadow, Storm Shadow
@davidwee130
@davidwee130 4 місяці тому
They need to keep being followed
@robharris8844U
@robharris8844U 4 місяці тому
Great song 🎵 that
@canadianoperator
@canadianoperator 4 місяці тому
Long range standoff munitions are pretty incredible in that they can hit targets autonomously once launched, very far away and without posing any risk to the pilot who launched it. I’ve actually launched some of these in military aviation simulators, and what I remember from them is that they can be programmed with specific GPS coordinates. And that the jet engine is merely to build inertia, after which the missile can glide for dozens of miles before hitting its target. That’s pretty impressive when you compare them to other smart munitions, like JDAMs, AGMs and SDBs - which, while guided by optics, laser, GPS and sometimes combined guidance, must be flown and launched within fairly close proximity to their desired targets. (10-20 nautical miles or so).
@Nauda999
@Nauda999 4 місяці тому
long range standoff munitions use GPS and other satellite infrastructure, keep it up, and say good bye to all the satellites, GPS and others, and in general all the access to Space, which is far bigger loss than a few pilots and planes.
@nicholasmaude6906
@nicholasmaude6906 4 місяці тому
@@Nauda999 GPS satellites can't be easily destroyed as they orbit 12,000 miles above the Earth also attacking and destroying them would be an act of war, Russia isn't isn't that stupid.
@streaky81
@streaky81 4 місяці тому
Well, modern stand-off weapons (and by modern I mean decades to be honest) have IR seekers that image the target and check against what it should be hitting, that's how you get those last few meters of accuracy. It's also why you don't need GPS per se because something like a Storm Shadow will bunt and gain altitude to take a good look at the area and find the target, even if it's hundreds of meters off it should find it.
@Nauda999
@Nauda999 4 місяці тому
@@streaky81 "Storm Shadow will bunt and gain altitude to take a good look at the area and find the target, even if it's hundreds of meters off it should find it." yes and use satellite communications to transmit what it is seeing so operation can confirm that it is the intended target. Would be really funny if Storm Shadow or water drone hit a civilian ship or even better Turkish navy ship mistaken it for Russian ship. Storm shadows have hit mostly the ships in dry dock where USA gives précise coordinates and GPS is enough to get to that location unlike a moving ship in the sea.
@nicholasmaude6906
@nicholasmaude6906 4 місяці тому
@@streaky81 The Storm Shadow does have a terminal IIR seeker where as it approaches its' target it pulls up and then dives whereupon it jettisons its' nosecone to expose the terminal seeker.
@Domo6768
@Domo6768 4 місяці тому
The JASSM is the equivalent to the storm shadow not the Atacms
@markmonaghan2309
@markmonaghan2309 3 дні тому
Fantastic thanks again.
@babalonkie
@babalonkie 4 місяці тому
And to think... Exported Storm Shadow's have their capabilities "halved" and the full ones... were considered obsolete before the Ukraine war and had a replacement coming. Also Storm Shadows were supplied by 2 Nations... not just UK. Starstreak system also can fire Marlet missiles, also provided to Ukraine. Martlet is slower, cheaper and around the same range... but uses Annular explosive instead of darts. But because it uses the StarSreak launch system... it can avoid decoys and avoid warning systems, as it uses the varying customisable 4 tier tracking system. For the Ukrainian and American cluster munitions... one fact stands tall in observation... Russia used them on Civilian Towns... Ukraine used them on occupied fields and trenches.
@PatRiarchy-qw6cp
@PatRiarchy-qw6cp 4 місяці тому
Tell that to the citizens of Donbass
@KoT_3JIoBpEg
@KoT_3JIoBpEg 4 місяці тому
LoL. There are much more holes from this rounds in Donetck then in russian tranches. Ukranian forces 8 years before SMO fired at civilians in Donbass. they cannot just give up this vile habit of hitting a very easily accessible target that will not answer them.
@babalonkie
@babalonkie 4 місяці тому
@@KoT_3JIoBpEg They don't leave holes... they leave chasms.
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 4 місяці тому
Not quite halved. Also, Storm Shadow is far from obsolete. Modern weapons are at least as much about the sensors and software as there are about the hardware. Storm Shadow’s an excellent weapon. It’s only real weakness is it’s comparatively limited range.
@olofn899
@olofn899 2 місяці тому
Thank you for this, I value the work you do
@BradHudgins-kl8pz
@BradHudgins-kl8pz 4 місяці тому
The brimstone 2 is one of the best I’ve ever seen incredible blast
@user-lz2qr6ih4c
@user-lz2qr6ih4c 4 місяці тому
ATACAMS flank up from counter point push needed up then out twards needed point then howitzers flank to point then point not revealed track needed find them
@tjpld
@tjpld 4 місяці тому
We should send 10 times more of that stuff.
@mememanbehindtheshadows546
@mememanbehindtheshadows546 4 місяці тому
Yeah and you should pay more taxes to that 😅😅😅😅 pretty sure it's not good for your pocket but atleast it would be worth it, btw that thing was expensive the us should fund Ukraine like how the funded their own armed forces.
@user-ow7xc7fx9j
@user-ow7xc7fx9j 9 днів тому
You need to worry about your own safety. Do you really think Russia will forget all the mistakes of England? Boris Johnson is a born Russophobe, calling for the destruction of Russia. I wonder what Grandpa's grudge against Russia is. He doesn't realize that Britain is just an island.
@nicholasmaude6906
@nicholasmaude6906 4 місяці тому
All of the Storm Shadows sent Ukraine so far are old stock approaching the end of their shelf-lives but the UK needs to ramp up production of new Storm Shadows. And since Ukraine has only a limited number of Su-24s then Germany and Britain should be looking at rendering to Ukraine any surplus Panavia Tornado GR.4s (Along with the needed spare parts) after training Ukrainian pilots and ground crews in flying and maintaining them.
@markmaher4548
@markmaher4548 4 місяці тому
The RAF retired their last GR4 Tornados in 2019, the airframes were knackered.
@nicholasmaude6906
@nicholasmaude6906 4 місяці тому
@@markmaher4548 Assuming they haven't been scrapped they could be refurbished, that is completely dismantled, all components examined with the fatigued ones thrown away and replaced with new build components before being rebuilt. While an expensive process still cheaper than building completely new airframes.
@frederickpallas7130
@frederickpallas7130 4 місяці тому
Tornados are EOL, Bundeswehr still has some as Bombers,but midterm they are phased out and scrapped for F35. Airframes are nearly done,cant do much about it. In 2025 BW will be last user of Tornados till 2030ish.
@nicholasmaude6906
@nicholasmaude6906 4 місяці тому
@@frederickpallas7130 The old airframes can be salvaged if they haven't been scrapped, dismantling them down to their individual components, identifying and replacing the fatigued components with new build parts before reassembly will result in an aircraft that has an airframe life of several hundred hours, this what the Brits refer to as refurbishment.
@frederickpallas7130
@frederickpallas7130 4 місяці тому
@@nicholasmaude6906 Oldtimer restauration isnt it, imho.
@lonewolf4949
@lonewolf4949 4 місяці тому
Could cluster munition be used to clear land mines ?
@bj6515
@bj6515 4 місяці тому
No.
@danegreen629
@danegreen629 6 днів тому
Not reliably or cost effectively and those munitions would be better used else where Also could never rely that it would even hit most or all the mines in that field Also could scatter its own duds around and make it more dangerous
@markhirstwood4190
@markhirstwood4190 4 місяці тому
Vocal fry means America's invincible. Oh wait, Vietnam, now Afghanistan...
@gijbuis
@gijbuis 4 місяці тому
A relatively unreported feature of the war in Ukraine is the relationship between cost and functionality of weapons. A Storm Shadow and ATACMS can accurately target and destroy enemy targets at a distance of around 250km but it costs $1 million a shot.
@brahmburgers
@brahmburgers 4 місяці тому
Next time Putin goes to visit his cannon-fodder boys in or near Ukraine.....
@timofy2641
@timofy2641 4 місяці тому
that was literally in the video
@Kumpelblase397
@Kumpelblase397 4 місяці тому
​@@yabgu3 No they dont... Ukraine hit a Russian Warship with Storm Shadows while there was a S400 a few KM away that couldnt shoot them down...
@vanfja
@vanfja 4 місяці тому
Exactly. These are too expensive and limited. The cheap drones are driving the way. All this stuff is doing is telling Russia, they need to take more territory for a missile buffer.
@Kumpelblase397
@Kumpelblase397 4 місяці тому
@@vanfja If Russia wouldnt attack other Countries they wouldnt need a buffer... That is just some BS to justify their Invasion
@georl1
@georl1 4 місяці тому
Then it's up to the US to restart their production on depleted missiles. This will also create more American jobs. That's the problem wit ht US. They wait until the last minutes then have to fight with the circus Congress to allocate more fund to rebuild the stockpiles.
@MonMornQB
@MonMornQB 4 місяці тому
This ended well. How were the missile strikes overnight?
@ClassicRiki
@ClassicRiki 4 місяці тому
Is the word Grad meaning Hail linked to Stalingrad. Sounds like it means something like Hail Stalin?
@brahmburgers
@brahmburgers 4 місяці тому
Very good overview and details. Sincere thanks to WSJ crew for putting that together and airing it.
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