Can they fix 9950x3d problems with gaming? Without having to disable cores, If so I'd buy, i want more cores, i mostly game but will also video edit and render some stuff, and i have plenty of money for it...

What performance increase you think the AMD 9900x3d over the AMD 5900x will be like.

I think 15-25% but more cache so up 30% slight higher clocks too

more is like 25%-30%ish range

Yeah I think 20-25% It probably won't be 40%, I don't believe that

@bartegexe8182 still good jump imo, just need a better 9950x3d fix in the windows software

It'll be a 20%... this guy is just boarding the AMD hype train only to depart disappointed.

You'll be fine my G, It's probably going to be a 15-20% uplift max

If you spent that much you'll be fine because I imagine you won't be playing at 1080p which is where by far the biggest difference will be felt. I got a 7800x3D a few months ago and cos I play at 4K I'm not concerned that I'm gonna miss out greatly with the 9800x3D. Plus I would have to wait years to get the 9800x3D for the price I got the 7800x3D for.

I mean...Everyone has access to Google and the release trends of computer hardware are pretty well documented at this point. If you buy a computer part more than 6-8 months after release there will generally be rumours of the next generation 2-3 months later, and then another 2-3 months after that is the next gen announcement. You bought what you want when you needed it, so don't worry about it. Something new is always around the corner.

Fk these intels, amds ect...wtf are these doing??? Bought week ago 7800x3d and 4070ti...now they both will release 5000 and 9000 😮, fk politics

@@KOT-ANGRY don't worry... new vers. of x3d will be in 2025 so you are good.

😂 same spack as you ya we got to hold one this time ill go amd procesor new and most powerful 6700k is good but I can feel it 😢

Fx4300 r9 290x 😂 gonna upgrade to 7500f and rtx 4070ti super in 2025

About 6 months ago I went AMD for the first time in nearly 2 decades, Zen 4 was the first Generation since AMD 64 that clearly led Intel in gaming at least.

​@@Battleneterwhen is the next ingrained GPU having CPU coming out

​@Battleneter why did you to amd and how or why is it better for gaming over then intel? or Nvidia?

@@xdooksyt7251three words for nvidia price to performance for intel theyre just on average cheaper and much more futureproof because these will be the same socket as the 7000 series, and intels next generation will be on a new socket

@@xdooksyt7251 It's not better than Nvidia, nobody said that. Now regarding gaming, ryzen 7600 is 5-7% faster than 13600K while costing less and consuming less power. ofc, 13600K wins in productivity due to more cores but for gaming it's ryzen. 7700x also wins against 13700K but they're almost equal. 7950X3D is a multicore as well a gaming beast. And let's not forget the elephant in the room, 7800X3D that is the fastest gaming CPU, that beats 1̶3̶9̶0̶0̶K̶ sorry 1̶3̶9̶0̶0̶K̶s̶ oh my bad 1̶4̶9̶0̶0̶K̶ my apologies 1̶4̶9̶0̶0̶K̶s . They are all the same CPU. While consuming a fraction of the power and requirung much cheaper memory sticks and motherboards.

5820k was a great chip, I used one for years then bought a 6950x off ebay for 20 bucks that served me well for a couple more years till I went to a 13700k.

I would maybe suggest to wait for arrow lake as well if you don't want stutters and stability issues. I'm amd user btw

6700k 😂 here

Sigh ... and I'm sitting here with my i7 3770K from 2012

@@winnb4968 End of the line with that socket, the 3770k is pretty much the fastest CPU you can get for it 😞

The 7800x3d is better for gaming (bangs for bucks), but the 7950x3d is vastly better for video editing performance. So, yes, use-case matters. Video editing is still also CPU intensive.

I been calling him The Sham Wow guy for 2 years now. :D

"In a wooooorld where 7950x3d just wasn't enough...ONE MAAAN....had it all until 9000 series came aloooong..."

only good if you gaming get non 3d for nongaming

@@frallorfrallor3410 gaming only for me

​@@frallorfrallor3410 most go for games 😅 but I find it funny how some people that produce are like oh this is what all get let me get it foe my vids 😂

I love my 7900x 5.6GHz all core overclock, but it bottlenecks my 4090 in 1440p, especially with dlss on, there is no cpu that dosn't out there. A big IPC uplift will unlease the the 4090 and feel like a double upgrade. Can't wait. Its gonna slap.

I heard the recommendaed max ram speed is 6400MHz up from 6000. I have 6200 working in 1:1 mode but thats it. So i'd guess 6600MHz is about the max, higher probably need a divider. Hopefully though they do more divider options so there is less penality.

@@jondonnelly4831 in the past you did 1:1:1 which was very beneficial but now you can have 1:1:0.66 which is in the end very simulair to 1:2:2 the 2:2=1:1 for each other but you need to have fast ram to notice a gain over 6k in some games its -1.5% preformance other games its a 5% boost depending on what the game prefers. which setup would be better

@@jondonnelly4831 the main diffrence is you pay a premium for the faster ram which is not a full gain in every aspect. i did do testing myself different games prefer different ram speeds to cpu ratio

Ya but with all the negative about Intel last gen price are gona be good this time around

😂here is the intel fan boy

I don't think so some good REAL leaks show that IPC of of zen 5 is 15-20 % but arrow lake is 25-30% so I think what will happen is intel Wil win In raw performance but I think amd may win in gaming with their x3d cache Idk how long amd can do this because at one point cpus will get enough fast that more cache won't do anything

@@ItsDeeno69 I think you have a zero to much. Intels IPC will probably be the usual 2-3% uplift.

@@TheKims82 what?

@@TheKims82 are u an intel hater coz I believe this will be the IPC bro 1.3nm node 2.Backside power delivery So ya they will be faster and finally they will also be efficient

Exactly, 7800x3d is a monster CPU even after 15 months, it's overkill for 350 euros and will still be strong for the next 3-4 years but with the new CPUs even faster...it's an Ultra overkill and people will buy it just because...it's the latest gen 😂😂😂 Me coming from 3600x to 7800x3d i'm more than pleased and don't care about the next gen...

That "overkill" is the reason you don't have to buy a new cpu everytime a new game comes out.

@@MeMyself-gf7fn 100% my plan is ( my current main rig is a 7800x3d and 7900xtx ) 9950x3d and a 5090 and just sit on it for a long time .. i really believe we are pushing far further with tech than software ( disregard the 8gb crap Nvidia is pushing out ) anything 16gb plus is going to be around for a while 24gb plus is so over kill now..

I disagree with that , as a 4k ultra enjoyer. Once the 5090 comes out you will see a greater difference in 4k CPU benchmarks because games are currently gpu bound at 4k , the 4090 is the entry level 4k card you can play new games at ultra with 70-90 fps , the 5090 will be a 140+ 4k gaming card

Wishful thinking but it's nice to hype. 😂

Holy moly I wouldn't spend that much for a 7 class CPU 330 tops I also picked up a 12700k for $302 back in October of last year though I did hear that the 5800 X 3D that I also bought back in December for 320 was originally 450 years ago when it came out

Always w8 a bit 😂

AVX512

Over here the 7800x3d was selling for about 600 euro but then price drop to 300 hehe

Yes

I'll try to answer. 1. We don't know if it's die shrunk, but IPC gains are not automatic with die shrinks. Die shrinks give you more "space" (technically the same space but you can fit more into it because your 'wires' are smaller) and thinner 'wires' so you need less power to make them function, but also makes your chip smaller and thus puts the heat closer together so you can't just juice more performance out of your CPU. With that more space you can fit more logic and potentially make the chip faster, but because it's not automatic, to say there's a 20% advantage from a die shrink is wrong. 2. AMD's cache bus, or Infinity Fabric, is locked to RAM speed because it runs at the speed of the memory controller. Because Cache is SRAM, we can expect it to get faster but a lot less than double. Because it's locked to RAM speed, it will still require you to put in faster RAM to run it at a higher clock. Because of this, and the fact that it will run the same RAM as last generation, the fastest RAM in they could have used in the benchmark is 7200MT/s and the fastest Ryzen 7000 supports is 6000MT/s, giving you a 20% faster cache at best. 3. It stays the same regardless of clock speed. IPC is Instructions Per Clock, and 4.8Ghz is a clock speed of 4,800,000,000 times per second. Think of IPC like an invisible multiplier. If my CPU has an average IPC of 2, then on average it is doing two instructions every clock. I can do 9.6 billion operations per second with a 4.8Ghz CPU because 4.8 billion clock speed times two instructions per clock is 9.6bn. I say average not because it changes depending on speed. If it's average is 2, then sometimes it will get a long instruction that might take 4 clocks, and sometimes it will be able to complete 4 instructions in a single clock, but when you average the amount of tasks done per clock you end up with 2. P.S we don't typically give a number for IPC because some instructions are much much more common than others. For example the add command is very very common and a CPU that can add super fast will usually beat a CPU that can do more complex tasks super fast but adds slowly. Because of this IPC expressed as a number would be pretty useless as it would be too affected by uncommon instructions and not affected enough by common ones. Hence benchmarks.

48% in my opinion is BS This happens with leakers all the time .. 100% AMD has a 48% uplift CPU kicking around the office but it wont be a 9000 series that will be 10000 series .. Price is subjective if we see 15 to 20% uplift which i firmly believe will be the case we will see prices close to 7000series at release prices !!

I doubt that they will fail (they need the massive performance uplift) otherwise they will lose against Arrow Lake and that can't happen because 9000 series is on a newer architecture and they will improve the cache design. Intel has flaws in their p-e cores cpu architecture design cause the e cores don't support hyperthreading meaning AMD is going to have an edge to win here. But like always Intel is so upset they can't improve their CPU like AMD does so they will increase power-draw and overclock as high as possible to a point where it cause instability issues and right after buying latest Intel's CPU it's gonna start burning up and losing performance due to heat. While as AMD will still be high clocked but not as high as Intel and still have plenty room to overclock/PBO unlike Intel that is already maxed overclocked and has no room to overclock that's the difference between AMD vs Intel (AMD always win with performance per watt, that's a fact btw if you don't believe look at the performance scores vs efficiency (power draw) in load Intel is drawing 70% more power then AMD which is a huge shame and no I'm not a fan boy I own an i7 3770K and I will upgrade to 9950X3D.

Now the cost 50 euro I know right back then I got one with 480 g for 150 euro 😂

Its insane indeed. For less then 400 I believe you have a 4TB M2 SSD, which is also much faster. And as you said sometimes you see 50 to 80 Euro SSD's of 500GB to 1 TB. Obviously you could buy a 2 TB gen 5 SSD which is expensive. But not as 3 TB for 1200 I paid for, back then. Luckily so 😉

@@Oliver-sn4be ps. even worse .. one or the first SSD's I bought was a Corsair 60 gig. I think it was around 15 years ago (?), and over 400 Euro, during the Windows 7 era. It had 550 mb/s read speeds. It looked somewhat thicker then the current normal SSD's. Most people also had issues with them, luckily I didn't. I might still have it laying around somewhere. It's a nice indicator how far and fast the SSD's have come and became, even if you look at my current ones. 😉

i love my 5950x and 128gb ram will use this until 9950x arives

15% uplft is crazy nowaday

Wait till benchmarks come out for what games and apps you actually use. but general speculation seems like AMD will beat intel this generation on paper intel switching to new architecture and MOBO chip so you could get hopefully 3 new cpus to upgrade and AMD you only get 1 more CPU 10000 series. but actual real world reviews come out 2 months after release. plus intel no hyperthreading apparently. both should have AI. Intel should be able to match AMD by the end of it.

Exactly its too soon to decide which cpu to go for although I'm saying it will better to go for amd if you are gaming on it but the x3d chips not production the i9 15900k or whatever they've called it "don't try to correct me in the comments who ever will be its not my problem intel confusing with their naming schemes) just know that usually intel strong benefits are in the production stage while amd is better at the gaming stage as i mentioned before.

@@IraShowy I have been using 3950x previously + 128gb ram. So I'd run fluid simulations on it. But I gave it to my bro and I'll be mving abroad and I am not sure if I will get enough space for a desktop or a laptop would do it. Asus strix g16. My worries is if this new AMD will be laggy with windows 11 cause when i did istall it on my 3950x it felt it had a latency on explorer. Didnt like it at all and went bak to w10 and i was responsive and way faster. The thing I don't like about Intel is the weak cores taking up space while giving you few performance cores. While AMD gives you full performance cores and also use less energy. Now intel next gen, is interesting that it won't be hypertreading. I am curious about it. At the moment I am confused whether I should wait till I move out and figure out or get a Asus strix g16 to get me going. but is half the budged of a full desktiop with a 5090 card. aproximately lol

@@gamingcomputers7485 what I like about Intel tht I did mention in the previos answer is stability. When I had my 3950x, I had to deal with a freaking bunch of issues,, stutters at random times, sudden clock speed down to 400mhz all cores. issues here and there, bugged bios and stuff. took almost a year to get a stable system. But with intel it doesn't seem that bad, isn;t it? but intel huge need of electricity turns me down and the fact that its processors arent full performance ones. but weak and full power. I want ALL my cores to be performnace so I'd run simulations smoothly. Also temps in my 3950x were 75 degrees for over 80 hours of simulation non stop. That is the thing I liked from AMD once all the bugs were gone lol. Still not buying anythung except that I might need a laptop but im pushing myself not to spend money till prob january next year lol. writing from a 11 years old laptop atm

I'm going from amd to Intel next gen even if it beats it by some % because i would rather have few fps less and smoother experience than dips/stutters in games and windows as well

Meth usually keeps people up.

That fine but won't be muvh different from the 7800x3d only when you go to production then yes

@@Oliver-sn4be Yeah. The 7800x3d is a great chip. I just wanted to state that multi chiplet sku's are also great for gaming and there is no penalty for chiplets.

It still is a lot less expensive than comparable Intel cpus

@@ryan89554 it happens amd doesn't care about the lower-end; where are the R3? ya'll shit 'future-proof' yet recommend a dead platform.

​@@ryan89554depends where you live, intel cheaper for me lol idk why

are you dumb?

good thing you said "oh and". Otherwise no one would understand what you were saying

There will be 9000 X3D's and maybe the 9000 series won't beat Intel's Arrow Lake and this is why AMD will release X3D after Intel's Arrow Lake. Because Ryzen 9000 is going to be announced in June and a month or two later July/August will be the release of Ryzen 9000 series. While Intel will release Arrow Lake in Sept/November and AMD's X3D will come in 2025 Q1 but could be delayed to begin of Q2. But 6-8 months after release of regular Ryzen 9000 series so about a year from now the 9000 X3D's will be released and RDNA 4 will be released 5-7 months after that.

You can't do that with 7800x3d?

Ryzen 9800X3d + rtx5090 😁

@@expoza5245 costing only 7000$ :D

That's why Ryzen 9000 series will release first, then Intel's Arrow Lake and then X3D will beat it.

Waiting for zen 14

15% IPC at best. 5% or higher uplift in single thread clock and perhaps 10% clock in all core. I say 15-20% single and 20-25% multi performance uplift. I'd bet on it but hoo noes

@@christophermullins7163 I expect the same. Everyone who says 40% or higher are delusional. Even with DDR5 and a new platform Zen 4 was 30% faster in single core than Zen 3.

Yeah lol, there aint no way its gonna be a 50%, or even 40% ipc uplift (i have heard some people saying its gonna be 70%+ 💀). If reworking an architecture and increasing the process from 7nm to 5nm resulted in just a 15% ipc uplift(and 20-25% performance uplift), then there is no way in hell that no transistor change on the basic zen architecture results in even CLOSE to a 40% IPC uplift. Those levels were only seem from zen 1 over bulldozer, and ONLY because bulldozer sucked badly and Zen 1 was fundamentally new. I predict in reality, the IPC uplift would be around 15-20% at maximum, which single threaded being around 25-30%(maybe 35% or 40% maximum in some scenarios). It's just RedGamingTech spreading these false rumours from untrustworthy sources, while AMD themselves haven't even said anything regarding performance. Mind you that intel is going from 10nm RLR to TSMC 3nm ARL, completely changing the architecture and CPU design by going tile based, and even then will probably deliver around a 15-20% IPC uplift(which is already really impressive), and a 35% improvement in performance atmost.

Games devs are going to add ai, it's only a matter of time there is some off the shelf api available similar to physx and then overnight you will see it everywhere just like physx

especilly X3D in gaming 150%

7800x3d allready beating 14900ks in gaming xD

@@Kage0No0Tenshi ?????

@@lukask.2549 Please continue to truth User Benchmarks.

@@Kage0No0Tenshi 14900KS does beat it in gaming, but by like 1% or something, while costing double, using 2x more power, and running 1.5x hotter. 14900KS is a waste of sand lol.

9900X will beat both 14900K and 7800X3D in gaming. - You can mark my words

apparently arrow lake is implementing meteor lake's base tiled based architecture making it much more power efficient and temps, while delivering similar performance to zen 5 (which is to be expected, considering a fundamental architecture redesign + jumping from 7nm meteor lake to tsmc 3nm + tile based architecture) but lets just wait for the benchmarks to hit, just to see how much of a monster or a disappointment arrow lake is

@@auritro3903 Well Intel better bring their A-game because they have a LOT of caching up to do! And let's face it; they don't have a good rep for producing power efficient desktop CPUs.

Intel's Arrow Lake will come close but their e cores has flaws it doesn't support hyperthreading while as AMD is working on something similar and their CPU cores will communicate better and have lesser latency with their AI chip. Basically what Intel has with P and E cores but on AMD's side it's build in within their CPU instead of e and p cores AMD is doing this with threads (each core has two threads) and one of them is focused on performance while other is focusing on efficiency (background applications). Since AMD's cache system is better I believe AMD has slightly the edge to win from Intel because Arrow Lake may go crazy with higher clocks and draw more power (like usual). But that's why Ryzen 9000 series releases before Arrow Lake cause once 9000 series is out Intel will release Arrow Lake and once that is out AMD will beat them with their 9000 X3D.