Zwift FutureWorks Pace Partners: Details // New Drop Multiplier Game!

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Recently launched under the "FutureWorks" banner on Zwift, these Pace Partners have been rolling the roads and paths of Watopia with ever increasing bunches in tow. A recent update now includes an in-game Drops reward system for riding with them too. In this video I dig into the details and test the Drops multiplier to the limit and beyond!
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@DiGitalpUnk1000 3 роки тому

I wish there was a version of pace partner but it’s a shadow of your best time so you can try beat yourself on different routes.

@MR-wh5wp 3 роки тому

Yesss!!

@iPedal 3 роки тому

Yes please!!!!

@hgiusdfajgfds 3 роки тому

as long as it was your actual pb / sb, not just 30 day best

@ContrailsProductions 3 роки тому

I did that all the time with my old computrainer. Should be possible on Zwift. Would be very helpful to judge my training progress compared to my previous training plans.

@michaelsteele5495 3 роки тому

Tip for a great work out: you can start out with Coco (C level bot) as a warm-up and then jump over to Bowie (B level bot) when they cross path on Fugit. You will need to press the down arrow to make a U-Turn and a slight ramp-up to Bowie's pace. Also, you can tell when the bots are close to each other when you can see the other's message.

@darinsteele7091 3 роки тому

THIS is a great for solo riding I've been waiting for something like this! Sometimes I don't want to do a race or group workout, this is great for just jumping on the trainer.

@paulinfrancis 3 роки тому

It would be good to be able to “join pacer” when you join a pacer group randomly out on the road, to not have to take the correct turns manually. It could be presented in a similar way as selecting which way to turn.

@alexclare4992 3 роки тому

just calculated how many drops you received from the start to just after you got back to 1.0x multiplier. So in 39mins you gained 50,000 drops which includes all ride ons etc.. you should do a test to see how it compares to normal riding for 39 mins with ride ons etc

@nick_velokicks 3 роки тому

I remember a time when 400+ watts was a walk in the park for the Lama!

@rasherdk 3 роки тому

One thing that's worth noting is that by joining a pace partner with a given w/kg, you'll almost certainly end up riding somewhat below that, due to the draft. I did an hour with Coco the other day and ended up around 2.1 w/kg as opposed to the advertised 2.5-3.1. It makes sense if you think about it, but might be surprising. On a TT bike you'd probably end up almost exactly at the advertised wattage.

@dpw420 3 роки тому

this is a good idea, I wish it was XP instead of drops though.

@fritzhartman2738 3 роки тому

Or both!

@paullubbers939 3 роки тому

My thoughts exactly.. Drops are useless if you have no great upgrades to buy..

@gregupton6188 3 роки тому

Drops are the better option for those on level 50....

@gregupton6188 3 роки тому

Which ain’t me btw

@jasonmcgrody9472 3 роки тому

Think of the draft as your XP multiplier.

@Matthew25405 3 роки тому

I did my first ride with a pace bot (Coco) today and I didn't know about the multiplier, I wish I had seen your video before! Anyway, it was a great ride, I wanted to ride at endurance pace with someone else for a couple of hours and it was just perfect.

@Demon09-_- 3 роки тому

im glad they are back. oddly enough pace partneers give a better group ride experience then some group rides. that big ole neon partner and now even more with the drop mutiplyer seems to keep people bunched together pretty well

@robbybeauchamp 3 роки тому

@Damien Yep, the pace partner group rides are often better than officially scheduled rides. There's more incentive to ride with the group rather than turning it into a race. I've only found a few group rides I enjoy that keep a fairly tight reign on the heroes going off the front and stringing the group out.

@Demon09-_- 3 роки тому

@@robbybeauchamp yep I found even before this new drop mutiplyer people who rode with the pace partner generaly clumped together quite well . I think its partily there is less glory from pulling away from a from a free ride unscheduled event.

@dewidavies7995 8 місяців тому

Thanks 😊level 15 zwift cycling now.

@peebee1357 3 роки тому

Tried it tonight shane , you were right it is difficult to stick with the bot especially when tired . Brilliant addition though especially if you have a specific time window to train 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@tobbeedenius 3 роки тому

Fun to see myself on your stream Shane 👍🏻 Ride on.

@spankmypita 2 роки тому

Thanks for the video - I did my first pace partner ride yesterday (with C. Cadence) and it was super fun. Had no idea about the multiplier and was often off the front or behind - now I know to behave myself!

@timhepworth7867 3 роки тому

This is awesome so many times I want to ride with a group but can’t do the distance I want... this really is going to change my riding for the better. Tonight will be my first one.

@markbentley4343 3 роки тому

Great explainer Shane. Thanks 👍👍

@davidanderson2706 3 роки тому

Wow! I had no idea! this is so cool! thanks for the info. Can't wait to try it

@thijsvdn9852 3 роки тому

Good stuff mate, once again! Thanks :-D

@shanew634 3 роки тому

Top Tip, thanks. I’ll try that tomorrow.👍

@sonivex 3 роки тому

Far out, it’s like you knew I wanted to know more about pace partners! :)

@iPedal 3 роки тому

Thanks mate! I went to try Diesel Dan and Coco Cadence straight after your video! This makes for a much more consistent ride. No more waiting for a group ride and trusting the leader to stick to the advertised power ratio. This is great! Will only be doing events now if I want to race/TT.

@bugboy152000 3 роки тому

This is such a huge help!!

@poopscoop2000 3 роки тому

Recovering from an mtb crash here and finally back on Zwift. The Pace Partners are proving very handy. Can drop in, ride as a group whilst doing a couple of sprints when I feel like it. Just doing 15k every other day at the moment and going to build up gradually as injury improves. The PP's are pretty hard to stay with as you mention Shane, I keep on yoyoing off the back or front. Very handy new feature though.👍

@galenkehler 3 роки тому

I joined Bowie for a ride tonight, honestly the best experience I've ever had on zwift. Looked up and 2hours had gone by like a snap of the fingers while I was halfwheeling the pace bot.

@gplama 3 роки тому

Nice one! Did you level up on Drops on the way?

@galenkehler 3 роки тому

@@gplama ill do another test and look at the drops, was kicking myself for not checking the totals before and after.

@BillBonney 3 роки тому

The bot goes faster when ever bodies out in front pushing it. And yeah, and if you focus wanders and you fall of the back. 400+ W to get back on. I do think that it would be better if 1) the bit dropped/increased power by a nominal amount depending on gradient 2) had a group lead type marker. With so many in the group the blue ghost that is Coco can disappear and then you are not sure if she’s behind or ahead.

@christoffermartinsen2124 3 роки тому

Thank you :-D Did not know about pace partner, and even though i find it very difficult to keep the multiplier, I like the social aspect of it. Did not know that i could give multible thumbs up in the companion app either, before now :-D

@Papa-Bogey 3 роки тому

“Eric Min says Ride On” ... can’t say I’m not a little bit jealous ... 👍🏻

@TheCatAteMyShoe 3 роки тому

I’m going to try this out today.

@lukamalic486 3 роки тому

Just rode with Bowie Brevet on Watopia - Sand and Sequoias lost the multiplier through Titans Grove , on descent , hehe .

@speedysteedy759 3 роки тому

I think this is a really great way for those that want the bunch ride experience and being able to jump in at anytime. Sounds like so many ways to take the experience to another level. Thanks for the content.

@Demon09-_- 3 роки тому

its defintely been great and sucks it took them this long to add a pace bot. its great to just jump on and have a group ride. half the time I ride I am not organized enough to catch group rides so being able to just join the bot has been great. now if they changed it up what routes the bots did that would be great to have certian days or a rotation evrey so often of it doing a hilly ride or something.

@darinsteele7091 3 роки тому

it's a great idea now don't have to wait for a scheduled ride

@harryhanley2006 3 роки тому

The pace partners are going to come in handy while I'm in 2 weeks quarantine in Sydney. Traveling with my Taxc. It's heavy but worth it.

@markbentley4343 3 роки тому

Shane, been looking into these pace partner names. Is Eric a big Bowie fan? Coco was Bowie’s assistant for more than four decades. Kept him out of serious trouble several times. Bowie references may stop there, but Jacques Anquetil was, as many might know, the 1st 5-time Tour de France winner, an apt name for the fastest pace partner. Stuck on Amelia. Could just because she begins with ‘A’. May be worth asking him? about these 🙂 Sorry, my journalist’s nose coming out here

@frazergoodwin4945 3 роки тому

The bit where you highlight that there are some going off the front is where I went too whenI rode with the group - why there? well I was going for a PR on the desert segment and used the draft for the first two thirds to stay fast before putting thehamer down for the last third. Don't think Ill beat my PR for that segment without a repeat of the tactic!

@P4LL3R 3 роки тому

Great, more drops that I don't know what to do with. But who knows, maybe there will be more expensive frames in the future or other in-game stuff, where you can spend the drops.

@grobbosixtyone 3 роки тому

There is the new Canyon Aeroad

@P4LL3R 3 роки тому

@@grobbosixtyone Yes, I know, for a few hundret k Drops. But I have a few million that I don't know what I should use them for.

@malcolmwade3790 3 роки тому

Not sure if it's been mentioned but they're a great way to get the 100 Ride-Ons badge. With the companion app you can hand out bulk ride ons easily and get them in return. And with riders coming and going all the time I managed nearly 30 in 20 minutes. That's a good ride on return for time/distance!

@gplama 3 роки тому

Great tip!

@mrwezbo 3 роки тому

Thanks for the vid, I had no idea anything in zwift gave you bonus drop rate (elevation, for example). It's a good finishing thought about FTP, if 'calories burned' gives you more drops, higher raw wattage would in theory? But I don't think w/kg relative to your FTP or weight, it would be too easy to go set your FTP lower manually and reap the rewards, so to say.

@rddavies 3 роки тому

The thing that I have noticed (and I don't think this is specific to riding with bots it just becomes more evident when you do) is that your effective speed I think is calculated based on something *like* a 3 or 5 second moving average of your power. So if you ease up on effort you won't fall back right away but then when you do start to fall back you do so with a vengeance. Same with increasing effort. This undoubtedly contributes to the yo-yo or surge effect and it's another reason you have to stay attentive as you want to modulate your power right away if you see yourself to far forward or to far back.

@WaynePlaysGamez 3 роки тому

My only feedback for this feature is what you had mentioned, the climbs and descents can cause a bit of rubber banding for the group and if you lose contact for too long, your multiplier is reset

@chrismccarter6875 3 роки тому

Drop your trainer difficulty to close to zero for the time you are riding with the pace partner, so you can push a steady power

@waynedoherty7758 3 роки тому

Very unusual not to have balance changes in release notes. But e-sport don't normally have gun companies paying to have their guns in the game. Zwift have a new investor (Specialized) who were probably quite pissed that the Canyon was the higher performing frame

@robertminnicks1136 3 роки тому

Been asking for this since 2015 ! Yea

@gplama 3 роки тому

We were running our own bots back in 2015... then got politely told not to. :)

@jasonmcgrody9472 3 роки тому

I'm jealous of all the ride ons. I did a 5-hour 100 mile ride on Zwift a few days ago and only got 35 ride ons the entire time. I usually only get 5 or so when I ride. I got so few I didn't even know that your pockets filled with them because I never got them.

@yousufkazmi7842 3 роки тому

Just finished Free Riding TF, managed an hour before Coco caught me, so nicely warmed up. You get a short text message in the mini map as Coco starts to catch up saying you can earn extra drops. Also another bot (Bowie on Titans Grove laps?) was around, it's icon is a different colour on the mini-map. Sadly was off the back an hour later when the 2 bots finally occupied the same patch of road (heading to the 500m sprint), pack dynamics & drops multipliers could be interesting :) . Time is what gets you with Coco, I managed an hour, cycled the drops multipliers, fell away, finished with 2hr on the clock and watched a YT video... :)

@galenkehler 3 роки тому

Proof the carrot works better than the stick. (Re: keeping the riders bunched together)

@jomo8207 3 роки тому

The question is: While at a 2.5x can you sit in a range that doesn’t increase the bar and stay in the top drop multiplier for longer?

@TheUltimateULTRA 3 роки тому

Shane, could I just turn erg mode on my trainer on the phone app so i stay with them??

@tomcosgrove7240 3 роки тому

So if you set trainer difficulty to 0 is it then easier to hold the same watts to stay with the pace partner (because you don't feel any gradient changes)?

@jasonmcgrody9472 3 роки тому

I would assume so. It's REALLY easy to maintain watts with difficulty of 0.

@deedeecycles6018 3 роки тому

Shane---what graphics card do you use that makes the visuals so great looking?

@gplama 3 роки тому

Nvidia RTX 2060

@trufflepig1491 3 роки тому

I like the idea of pace bots as it's sometimes hard to find events that suit my schedule. How does it work for women/lighter riders though? Being a 45 kg female, I'm always going to get dropped even at 2.4kg watts and below

@silverarrowslk 3 роки тому

Wahoo app just run the Kickr on ERG mode at set target power for these rides 👍🏻

@gplama 3 роки тому

You still need to modulate power to account for the randomness of the bunch dynamics / drafting / etc.

@diracflux 3 роки тому

Farming drops? Future Zwift FarmVille world confirmed!

@gplama 3 роки тому

Just wait for the next update. Zangry Birds! The in-game magpie addon!

@opusdcj 3 роки тому

Complete with new force-feedback helmet

@Ayami3184 3 роки тому

4:27, 4:55, 6:25, 11:53, 15:02 Receiving more drops for the more time you manage to stay within the pace partner's zone is the whole point of this great mini-game. 7:40 Pace partner indicators or beacons, would seriously detract from the fun in this mini-game. If you prefer a beacon, maybe a group ride or meet-up would be preferable.

@mishalabahusayn405 3 роки тому

I wish there was one lower on reddit i see a lot of comments from newer riders that are having a hard time finding group rides that are easy enough for them. If there was a pace bot at 1w/kg i think that would take care of them and there would be a big enough demand for it.

@AllIsWellaus 3 роки тому

This is first race on Swift I've seen I didn't understand what the sliding represented and what is the multiplayer?

@gplama 3 роки тому

This isn’t a race. The multiplier boosts the Drops (in game currency) earned.

@spsauber 3 роки тому

I watched your video then did two rides -D and C- had partner next to me while time - about an hour. Never saw line with drops multi - does this not work on Apple TV?

@gplama 3 роки тому

It should work across all platforms. Check to see if your Apple TV Zwift is updated (via the app store on the ATV)

@andrewrubins7276 3 роки тому

Shane, I can’t work out how to find the pace partners as I can’t see them listed in “ join other Zwifters ” that you used in the video. Is it because I’ve only been on Zwift a short time and am only at level 10?

@gplama 3 роки тому

You need to select Watopia as the world to see them.

@andrewrubins7276 3 роки тому

@@gplama thanks - I’ll check it out.

@leslie7922 3 роки тому

Free drops sounds good

@fritzhartman2738 3 роки тому

I think that the pace partner system is almost there! A group ride when that is all I want, but it is (or could be) soooooo much more IMO. Why? In my experience, roughly half of the bikers who "hate" Zwift, hate it because they find drafting or riding in the group difficult. We can forget just how difficult this is for beginners. And yes, we can all make snarky comments about lack of perseverance, closed mindedness, ect, ect... Snarky comments may motivate some but most are turned off AND they give Zwift a negative connotation. But the "carrot" system here not only teaches folks how to ride in a group, but riders also get something for their efforts. And that "feels" good. Good job Zwift. I'd push this out to include XP bonuses and it would be fun to have an "evil twin" pace partner...a pace partner that fluctuated their pace a lot AND if you didn't keep up or went too hard , you just might be teleported away or shot to the back.

@liambarber9036 3 роки тому

So what exact w/kg are the pace partners actually holding? Or are they holding a range?

@glostrode8611 3 роки тому

It tells you in the menu when you pick a pace partner. (See 0:49 ). From what I've seen, their watts stay the same throughout the ride.

@grobbosixtyone 3 роки тому

So how does a rider at say 1.5wkg stay with the bot riding at say 2.4wkg. Does the rubber band effect come into play?

@gplama 3 роки тому

The bunch draft comes into play a lot.

@markwinfield1679 3 роки тому

If you are going up a hill > 3% and getting the bonus drops, do you also get the multiplier.

@gplama 3 роки тому

Yep, they stack.... so it looks like it does.

@MrPeggydo 3 роки тому

is it possible to do a workout using ERG riding with the pacing partner? Strikes me that this would be a great way of keeping focused on longer steady state rides where the w/per kg is constant, or a good way of doing intervals by riding off the front and then dropping back into the pack. Does anyone know how it works for training? Seems like ERG would also work well given the pacing partner holds the wattage on climbs an descents.

@gplama 3 роки тому

It’d be difficult to keep with a pace partner with ERG due to the draft effect. External ERG control would be better if you were to try as you could then adjust the wattage with more accuracy than having to use a Zwift workout.

@MrPeggydo 3 роки тому

@@gplama Thank you. Very helpful. Really enjoying your channel and bought the Wahoo Kickr Snap on the strength of your excellent review. Keep up the good work! 👍

@kenji1204 3 роки тому

As an incentive I’d like to pay 💰 (drops) to level up.

@galenkehler 3 роки тому

What was your trainer difficulty? I hate shifting so I only use 0%, would you think that would be easier to stay with the bot?

@gplama 3 роки тому

100%. 0% would help with your own power modulation, yep.

@galenkehler 3 роки тому

@@gplama thanks!

@Silidons91 3 роки тому

The thing I've noticed about pace partners...at least Diesel Dan, he rides WAY below the advertised w/kg. It got a little hilly, and I didn't realize he was slow AF up the hill (almost had to stop pedaling completely) and then boom, I got too far away and lost my super drop bonus. My FTP is *just* over 2.5 w/kg, so I was afraid to go with the C category one...don't go D though he tends to ride at like 1.5w/kg

@jel10ukkite 3 роки тому

Know exactly how you feel. Dan dropable going up, but scared of Coco.

@hornetluca 3 роки тому

I can't change the payment method on Zwift. Does anybody have the same issue? I've already contacted Zwift support. No answer so far

@gplama 3 роки тому

You should be able to, yes. One for Zwift Support to nail for you though.

@oscarwootton6002 3 роки тому

When does the pace maker leave or choose a different route?

@gplama 3 роки тому

There's no info published on that.

@pam00088 3 роки тому

To be clear, do I have to match Coco's pace (based on her W/KG) or is my W/KG matched to the number Coco is holding (like in a 'stay together' group ride)?

@gplama 3 роки тому

You have to match the pace, there's no keep together banding. The Pace Partner w/kg will be ballpark what you'll have to hold. There's other things that influence speed at the same w/kg between riders such as rider height, bike/wheels used, and the bunch draft effect / bunch positioning.

@pam00088 3 роки тому

@@gplama Good to know. Thanks Shane. This should mean that at my weight I only need to hold c.2.1 w/kg versus Coco's 2.5 for a solid zone 2 effort. Will give it a go tonight and see if the theory pans out.

@framie6127 3 роки тому

what time do the pace makers bike?

@gplama 3 роки тому

All times now.

@SuperbikeRob 2 роки тому

Does it matter where your difficulty is set? Or just less shifting on the hills to stick with pacer???

@gplama 2 роки тому

Unrelated to pace partners

@SuperbikeRob 2 роки тому

@@gplama Thanks!!!

@guyfisher2050 3 роки тому

Can ERG mode be utilized for this ?

@gplama 3 роки тому

Not really given the draft effect means you're bouncing around all over the place. Maybe on a TT bike and ERG this will work.

@CodySiler 3 роки тому

Seems like a good time to turn the trainer difficulty slider all the way to the left, to be able to put out constant power up and down hills.

@markph0204 3 роки тому

Great info -- but why are you sweating? I thought you were superhuman. :)

@JacobMRider 3 роки тому

It sux for hills going both up and down as they keep the same watts

@TheUltimateULTRA 3 роки тому

To take full advantage of this you need to go into Kilometers becuase you get more drops per mile/kilometre!

@pauldamian2988 3 роки тому

Hey? Any one know of a way to run my Kickr WITHOUT an internet connection? I was recently laid off here in the States, and will need to watch my expenses very tightly. I know I can do manual running with the Wahoo program, but I am looking for a way to run something like a workout mode, basically just erg mode. Don't need any fancy displays or extras. I don't care if I can't save any data after a ride. Seems like there should be some basic program language I could set up to do this? Help????? Lama, maybe this could be a video, or even a video series?

@gplama 3 роки тому

Look into TrainerDay

@robindrummond731 3 роки тому

If you have a wahoo computer, Bolt Element etc you can run a Kickr directly from that. ERG mode or replicate rides that you have done or you can pull one off Strava.

@pauldamian2988 3 роки тому

@@gplama Thanks!!!! I will look.

@pauldamian2988 3 роки тому

@@robindrummond731 Sorry... nope. I ride naked, have been for quite some time now. No electronics.

@TheUltimateULTRA 3 роки тому

Why can’t it just stay at 2.5x drops

@chrishopper8370 3 роки тому

So wish Coco wasn’t the same blue as the millions of thumbs that are constantly dropping!!

@ketjuariittaa 3 роки тому

1)It is realy dificult to stay on that 7m zone when going up short hills and then down. Because bot go over hilltop so fast. If normal rider don’t ease up on climes and pace go up naturally and wait on top wiuff he gous. 2)And if you drop on between two pace riders speeds. Other one little too slow and other way too fast😬😉✌🏻🚴🏻‍♂️🍂

@Demon09-_- 3 роки тому

ya there can be some dead spots where you can be inbetween two pace bots. but most times you can change where you would be in said pace bot group ride at least when its a flat ride. and either pull the front if your a little fast for the bot or hang onto the back if your a little slower. but when you hit a hill if your faster or slower you will gain or lose distance as the draft mostly goes away. but yep like any peleton if you ease up and are not picking up speed when the pelaton hits you then you will be dropped like a rock as the collective speed of a pelaton on flats or downhill is quite crazy if you cant get into the draft

@paddylogan13 3 роки тому

Does anyone else have a problem with Companion App pairing?

@gplama 3 роки тому

Never. As long as you're on the same wifi network (with no port isolation/etc) it'll work.

@paddylogan13 3 роки тому

@@gplama always on the same WiFi. Not sure about the port isolation. That's outside my technical capability. I find it drops out at least twice on every ride, if it even pairs.

@alexb618 3 роки тому

yeah but what are you going to do with 8 million drops anyway?

@gplama 3 роки тому

No idea. I won't lose any sleep over wondering though. As long as I can snag the new bikes and things that pop up, I'm happy.

@jasonmcgrody9472 3 роки тому

@@gplama Why 8 million? Because you need to get 8 million before you get 9 million. Just like why you buy a second bike. Can't buy a third bike until you buy a second bike.

@richardvaughn168 3 роки тому

I agree that staying with the pace bot is harder than you think it will be. I rode with Coco today and felt like I was constantly yo-yoing if I didn't stay completely focused on her.

@markmitchenall5948 3 роки тому

All I'm seeing from your W/Kg, and how you're breathing, is that whatever ZwiftPower says, I'm not a Cat C ;-)

@ashleyhouse9690 3 роки тому

I agree that the ride ons are annoying

@jurajfilipcic1180 3 роки тому

Diesel Dan, Waste of time, One second left behind, Another second need 3wkg to maintain, Rather ride solo, And get jersey polo. :)

@nationsnumber1chump 3 роки тому

Drops are too easy to get I feel like. You should have to win races or get pr's to upgrade bikes

@gplama 3 роки тому

Imagine the cheating that'd happen then. This rewards time in the saddle and not performance.

@thetheflyinghawaiian 3 роки тому

Not a huge fan of the constant comments the bots make, but I like them otherwise.

@Zwiesel66 3 роки тому

Shane, you forgot to mention another new "feature" at Zwift, you can now only shut down your account for a limited time. After that it will be reactivated automatically. this is very customer unfriendly - I assume that Zwift has done this on purpose to make it more difficult for customers to interrupt their subscription for a longer period of time. If you are not careful, you pay for a service that you do not use. Obviously, there is no way to extend the suspension of the subscription either, which means that you have to pay once in any case to extend the suspension - that's a cheek!

@gplama 3 роки тому

News to me. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@gplama 3 роки тому

OK. Five minutes of research on this over on their website: You have two options. CANCEL or PAUSE. One is what you expect, your membership is cancelled. Pause allows you to specify a time period between 2-8 weeks at which point your account will reactivate. Zwift commonly state that resuming the service at any point in the future from a cancellation will retain all your settings/etc. Not as evil as it seems, imo.

@Zwiesel66 3 роки тому

@@gplama That's what I said Shane, 8 weeks is the maximum period and their is no option to extend this period later - to extend the period for another 8 weeks you have to pay once, which is a bummer. Prior to this change you could pause your membership for an unlimited time, which is common and customer friendly. "Cancel" is not really an option because you lose all your data - quote Zwift: "We dont have to part ways if the sun is out. Pause your membership to save your progress for when the weather takes a turn for the worse."

@gplama 3 роки тому

This is a conversation best had with Zwift Support. By all reports, even from Zwift themselves, you don't lose your data if you cancel. If you want to continue pushing out a pause/suspend, then sure, that's not ideal you have to pay... but... just cancel. See below. "There’s no need to worry, cancelling won’t erase any of your progress in Zwift; everything you’ve unlocked, such as jerseys, bikes, and levels, will be waiting if you decide that you’d like to ride again."

@gplama 3 роки тому

Further: The only way you'll lose your account progress is deleting your account. This is a secondary step users have to do after cancelling. It's all up on their site. Not the easiest to digest, but it's there. support.zwift.com/en_us/canceling-your-membership-Sky82qONr