HAHA! Same here!

I've worked 6 years as Office furniture fitters, and I agree attention to details is great

One time I actually installed under-desk lighting. Cabling isn't what it used to be; it's much simpler now. Plus, we have tiny flashlights and head-mounted lights, so I currently don't have dedicated lighting under my computer desk or behind my home theater stack.

We definitely like the beautiful distraction from our shoddy cable management!

@@michaelsutherland5848 I think the base being inset my self is nice feature.

He thinks about your work environment, love hos eue for detail

As another IT professional I agree with this comment.

Under desk environment? Wow! That’s some corporate office speak if ever I’ve heard it 😂

Do over.. can’t wait to see the new tables.

🤘🏼 I’d watch these videos just for the humor in them.

may you explain please what's wrong with moisture? The finished table will warp?

@@flippery-flop yes, unpredictably and potentially not for quite some time. if he wasnt a stand up guy he could have shipped the finals and hoped the problem didnt present until much and then try to blame the client or refuse a refund. instead he's upfront about all of it, which means hes going to lose more money doing a whole new table set instead of being able to contract a new customer .

But he probably breaks even because he can generate revenue by making a video about it@@icesharkk6399

Right

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I mean, a man’s gotta upload something right? He’s got a large audience and since work like this takes so much time and effort to accomplish, even if it’s a failure it’s gotta be good for something right? Besides, it helps people to learn what NOT to do, especially when it’s in the proper context of “hey, I did this, it didn’t work, learn from this, don’t do this like I did here” rather than passing it off as a success

I always hated when people act like everything is perfect too. The mess ups are just part of it

I'm 100% with you on that...I want to know too

Would like a follow up on this as well. Thanks!

Yes, please! I'm curious if you can just dry them out in the kiln and then resurface them to flat if they warp at all. Assume that would be a good way to recover some value from them... maybe lose 1/4" of thickness, but you haven't completely wasted the time thus far.

Another vote to know what happened to those slabs after they were put in the kiln with the epoxy already poured.

Do Over. I too would want some detail on what is natural history of those slabs if sent to kiln or left to air dry. Would they delaminate, or crack/warp, or yellow/stain any finish, or not hold any epoxy finish?

Serious good on Aaron, thats the type of company you want to work with.

Why does it take 3 years?

Do over! What he said lol.

Definitely. This is game changing honesty. I subscripted because of that. We need more people like your craftmanship and great attitude. Big thumbs up! Blacktail Studio could have easily just sold the slabs as is. What does moisture do? Does it break the wood after a year or so? Not sure what issue it cause, anyone know?

@@somerandomchannel382 lol. Subscripted

@@somerandomchannel382 When moisture is trapped within wood, that wood will eventually dry and shrink just like the sponge on the edge of your sink. This causes all manner of problems from warpage to cracking to (wood) cell collapse. All of which can result in a table that is no longer flat or has cracks. Any client would be right to feel cheated and demand that it be made right. Considering what a return would mean with overseas clients, Cam made the right call, brutal as it was. Among the many bummers of this build is the fact that Goby Walnut is actually excellent with their kiln drying techniques. I've been ordering slabs from them for many years and their kiln operators are consistently excellent. This is a major problem in the world of woodworking as far too many wood retailers are CLUELESS about how to properly dry wood. I've had nightmare builds that were the result of improperly dried wood. What's worse is that sometimes the problems of trapped moisture only reveals itself after a slab is rough-surfaced. Walnut - which is tricker to dry than other woods - can spend months in a kiln only to have the surface dried with the center still holding very high moisture levels. This is more common that you would want to believe. Just like everyone, Goby made a mistake, but it should be known that after making walnut furniture for over 25 years, I've never worked with a supplier that delivered more consistently well dried slabs. I'm working on two tables from Goby right now with two more monster slabs in their kilns for Spring builds. I'm super jealous of Cam that he can drive down to Goby instead of having to have slabs shipped all the way to Colorado. It's a hard situation, but Cam and Aaron both did the right thing.

What's so bad about the trapped moisture? Why is the slab rendered unusable, especially as a table, if there is trapped moisture? Does it break the bonding between the epoxy and the wood?

@@thorsteinnorman7133 The comment above already explains it. What you need to know to understand the issue: we are talking about multiple % of the weight of that wood. This issue has nothing to do with the epoxy, it's purely in regards to the wood. Unless you are holding charcoal in your hand wood will always contain a sizeable amount of moisture. Hence we dry it to the point it has ~ the level of moisture that your typical indoor room has BEFORE turning it into furniture. If it's to dry => it will take up moisture from the room (that can be bad), if it's to moist => it will lose volume (unevenly) aka moisture over time (real bad). Imagine you get a table that is perfectly done and shipped to you, just to see it warp/ break/ crack/ etc, in all kinds of places a couple of months later. I'm pretty sure you would be pissed, especially because a good piece of furniture isn't cheap.

It’s easy to cover when you’re not the one covering the costs. He got new slabs for no extra cost.

@@Docstantinople Yeah his labour to get to that point is meaningless....

@@Docstantinople and the epoxy was free too, right??

@@donnarotramel16 yes

@@viracocha5444 good point

That’s a great question and the effects can vary a lot. This piece with small pockets of moisture will probably get pockets of cell collapse where there will be small depressions, which could even crack over time. Larger areas of wet wood would likely lead to cupping/twisting as well as cracks. All of that said, this piece would likely be flat enough for many people and function fine as a table. Any reputable woodworker wouldn’t be satisfied with a table like this though. I could potentially wait this piece out, or kiln dry it, resurface it, and have a perfect table. That might not work though, and would be a big time commitment from me. So instead I’m cutting my losses and using it as a wall piece instead. Hope this helps! - Blacktail Studios from another vid

Good Idea

Definitely wondering the same myself!

It is highly likely that the tables would change shape over time, warping badly and possibly cracking in multiple places too. Slight changes in shape should be expected from wood over time, but trapped pockets of moisture mean more severe changes and possibly bad cracks as well.

I'm a fulltime wood working. The wood just crack and/or bend. And the resin of the wood will crack the finish over time. I hate when a i need to make the base of the table, most of the time i make them of glass

Do over! Crazy how I had just seen another do the exact same thing today and never really had before. That was Mike Glover of Fieldcraft Survival on his second channel, Mike Glover Actual.

Repent to Jesus Christ “Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” ‭‭James‬ ‭4‬:‭7‬ ‭NIV‬‬

I’m curious how far golby walnut will deliver? Or do they only do pickup orders

I would've just sent em out and hope they didn't notice. Easy monies.

@@adamwilliams5426 Then when moisture problems happen they'll never buy from you again and tell all their rich friends. When you're paying top dollar you should receive top dollar products.

@@G_Robb Yea but easy monies...

@@adamwilliams5426 you have to think long-term. Want to get money once, scam the people and maybe never sell a thing again because they tell each other your products are crap, so you'll have to move on to new scams? Or do you want to earn a good reputation, get recommended, and earn that money multiple times, being able to make a living out of it?

@@flaxlineif you want a scam that pays big bucks and you can just keep porking it to the people just become a career politician.

I would 'honestly say that if I were the buyer, I would have been upset too. I've had to wait a long period of time for furniture, but canceled my order & went with something else. The buyers in this case didn't give up on you, that's good to know because many people would have said to forget the order and gone elsewhere, your video shows the other side of the frustration, and shows that the seller is also unhappy about the process. Thank you for sharing your life with us. Do you have any small pieces from different projects that you can piece together like a mosaic table? I would be interested in having 1 of those.

That will be a good story for his rich clients to tell their friends while a $300 bottle of red burgundy sits on their new $30,000 table ...... I spent an unusual career being around and often socializing with the very rich and learned that is better to be rich. Never made it though.

Do over. You said a few times the project is ruined due to the moisture content. What specifically happens when the moisture is too high? I see Mike Patey vacuum forming carbon fiber parts. Could you use that same procedure to pull a vacuum on your table top to extract the moisture? Perhaps a higher vacuum pump, like for an A/C system. Might be an interesting project or make a entertaining video.

@@garykrzywicki7191 With guitars the neck moves with the temp, so that could be the reason I think. Maybe if there is enough moisture in the wood, temp changes might cause it to crack the epoxy... I would think he could just expose the top and bottom of the wood, then put it in a dry area for a month or so, and problem solved... I am unsure how the epoxy would behave if it was put into a kiln or if someone put it in a vacuum... But you could suck out the moisture that way... Its kind of like dropping the wood in a big container of table salt, it will dry the wood out, but who knows how the epoxy would behave..

@@garykrzywicki7191 that absolutely wouldn’t work. You cannot vacuum out moisture from wood… wood has cells like a honeycomb but on a microscopic scale. The only way to dry wood is through heat and slowly so it doesn’t warp or crack. This process can take over a year.

Repent to Jesus Christ “Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.” ‭‭James‬ ‭4‬:‭7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ h

@@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist3 Amen ! But stop using the NIV bible .King James please .

why does trapped moisture in tables render them unusable?

Self identifying as a Master and still making mistakes tells me, you're not.

"You learn by doing". One of the best pieces of advice I've ever been given. You have to give folks grace to fail, and advice to grow. But you can't do any of it for them.

@@SauronsEye I dont know where the person of the comment is from but carpenters (after their vocational training) in germany start as a “journey man” and after some time as you are more experienced you are able to become a master which gives you the right to train other carpenters. so it is not the case that he just “claims” to be a master but it probably is a certificate he worked for.(as i said i can’t say for certain as i dont know where he is from)

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Do-over. Whilst frustrating and costly for you, the positive for the client is that the new slab looks amazing.

He's monetizing his mistakes. He understands that Any negative publicity he gets for what he does is "good" publicity. He knows he Wins and gets views either way. i don't blame him for this, but i don't think highly of him for it either.

2.6 mio watched. you really think he lost money :). you have to understand youtube better.

@@p.alterego3424 I know how UKposts works pretty well, I have a monetized channel. Regardless of the revenue generated by the video, as I mention in my comment, the time and effort that was lost in this creation is the issue.

It’s fun for me, glad you like it!

Well, it could have been a very bad thing, a 4500$ bad thing lol, Most supplies don't care enough to refund or credit bad wood they sold, MUCH less Replace them with something of greater value, I get the feeling this only happened because of the number of slabs he bought over the years and the power of influence he has through his following,