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Joel Haver

Joel Haver

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@Clashyah00
@Clashyah00 2 роки тому
"Collecting people I'd have to love from a distance" is so painfully relatable
@JuliaGarbe1
@JuliaGarbe1 2 роки тому
I loved that line, so bittersweet
@StryckerRebel
@StryckerRebel 2 роки тому
The second he said this I knew it’d be quoted in the comments
@12feetup
@12feetup 2 роки тому
@@StryckerRebel This line will not only be quoted in the comments, it will be quoted by poets generations from now.
@arthurmorgan5864
@arthurmorgan5864 2 роки тому
Can someone pls explain what this means cause im dumb when it comes to this stuff
@ralek592
@ralek592 2 роки тому
@@arthurmorgan5864 Was just gonna ask lol, I think it means he dislikes that he has to restrict himself with his feelings.
@Eddie-gi5yg
@Eddie-gi5yg 2 роки тому
I was really immersed in the dialogue and performance and forgot Joel himself was acting both characters.
@DiamondAppendixVODs
@DiamondAppendixVODs 2 роки тому
I tend to do that
@schmid1.079
@schmid1.079 2 роки тому
Its very impressive how well he can act 2 people at the same time having a conversation. Usually when people do something like that its very static. Joel on the other hand makes the scene feel natural with regular camera changes and movement.
@NullScar
@NullScar 2 роки тому
What, are you serious? I thought it was his cousin or some other relative. 🤔
@OddballArcade
@OddballArcade 2 роки тому
Lmao same
@bunnedwiener
@bunnedwiener 2 роки тому
Me too
@spiffygroove
@spiffygroove 2 роки тому
“the more you cheer me on the more he screams” god that line hurt. I came into this video excited to see another one of Joel’s fun sketches and was not mentally prepared for the emotions that it dragged up. So often I come to youtube looking for mindless background noise but joel just pulls me out of the noise and forces me to sit in the silence. Your content is such a breath of fresh air and you are a constant inspiration as you show the potential that this platform has with each of the unique ways you use it. Thanks for allowing us to experience your art for free :)
@aalifmohd7502
@aalifmohd7502 2 роки тому
Can't agree more with you @ainsley. Joel's videos are such an inspiration. It's feels so personal on a platform where you don't expect that kind of filmmaking
@of_the_Word
@of_the_Word 2 роки тому
Yeah this and some of his other films make me deeply sad and pull my head out of the hole I bury it in
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 2 роки тому
Thank you for your kind words, the fact that my content can pull you out of the mindless background noise loop means so much to me. Thanks so much for watching
@allyson--
@allyson-- 2 роки тому
Wow, I love pain so much
@austinftw7656
@austinftw7656 Рік тому
I’m glad that I’m subscribed and I just can’t believe the creativity that you have. I wonder after each video how you come up with these things because I’m in awe after all very video that i’ve seen. I just seems that it can be so real, like your creativity has so much realism in it I just love watching your videos as much as this guy’s comment that I’m commenting on. I hope you see this.
@siryizzir
@siryizzir 2 роки тому
I relate to the “old man screaming in your face” thing so much. Not just because I feel that way, but because I’m certain that my ex-wife did towards the end of our marriage when she sank into her deepest depression. And despite all my efforts to help, wracking my brain in my alone time trying to figure out some way to stop the screaming old man, there was no changing the final outcome. We divorced after 8 years together, just last year. We met in high school. I moved across the country from her after it was all said and done, I couldn’t stand to look at my hometown anymore. It wasn’t cinematic by any means. There was no infidelity, no big dramatic reasoning behind it all. She simply fell out of love with me over time, and I had no idea it was even happening until it was too late. I foolishly thought that despite her depression, she would always love me. 8 years of amazing memories created, laughing, tears, regarding her family as a second family of my own, plans of children, sleeping every night in the same bed, graduating high school and college together, losing loved ones and supporting each other, traveling the world together, reveling in accomplishment and experiencing tragedy together, just gone in the blink of an eye. She waited until I was out of state visiting family to do it. It was so nonchalant, simply a very brief FaceTime where she put it very bluntly: “I think I feel better by myself.”... “There was nothing you could have done differently. You were a great husband. I can’t explain it.”... And that was that. It was as if all the color in the world disappeared at that moment. Everything has been grayscale since. I’ll never truly wrap my head around it. I’ve felt dead inside ever since. Hoping that I can smile again some day and accept what happened. I built my life around her and she was my everything. My dad tried to warn me multiple times not to make another person the focus of my life. I should have listened to him. I feel like I irreversibly ruined myself. As if my conjoined twin withered away and died and I’m trying to drag the dead half around with me now. This definitely wasn’t how I envisioned my late twenties going. It doesn’t feel like a chapter in my life ended, it feels like the entire book slammed shut. Feels like there is simply nothing left to read. The story is over. You always either make me laugh or make me introspective. I appreciate it either way. Even pulling what I just typed out of my head makes me feel a bit better, despite how hopeless I feel. Thanks Joel, and I hope things are going great for you. So happy to see how far you’ve come.
@janekskiba1201
@janekskiba1201 2 роки тому
I'm very sorry. Just that... I've nothing better to say...
@TheKiaraLady
@TheKiaraLady 2 роки тому
I'm so sorry for your pain. This is so horribly beautifully written. The video choked me up but this straight up chokeslammed me. Thank you for sharing, it's weirdly comforting because I think the same thing is about to happen to me too. I hope that's not insensitive, and I hope venting into the UKposts void provided you with some alleviation from your pain
@jayeckart9234
@jayeckart9234 2 роки тому
That's an awful thing. I'm so sorry. I hope you're able to find yourself through this all as well. If you were a good husband, you must be a great person. And you've still got a lot to put into the world. It's hard to be an individual after that, but you still are worth it
@Blackviper6
@Blackviper6 2 роки тому
Much love my guy. I hope you can find some peace with this. I'm rooting for ya
@siryizzir
@siryizzir 2 роки тому
Thank you, all of you, for the kind words and encouragement. “This too shall pass.” Is such a cliche quote, but it’s one that I cling to in times like these. Joel Haver fans are such nice people.
@Cecrophia
@Cecrophia 2 роки тому
I seriously love that ending shot when you first think she left but then realize she stayed, just by depicting the glass. Such a cute story. Now that's storytelling!
@Fourthirteen82
@Fourthirteen82 2 роки тому
What tells you she stayed? Nothing confirms or denies it. It seems open-ended.
@GideonTheNinth9
@GideonTheNinth9 2 роки тому
@@Fourthirteen82 she asked for water and he brought it to her, like when she first arrived
@viktoriaking4064
@viktoriaking4064 2 роки тому
Dammit, spoiler
@Fourthirteen82
@Fourthirteen82 2 роки тому
@@GideonTheNinth9 i know that's what happened when she first arrived, but it seems like the last shot could've been him just going to lay down in bed with some water as well. Edit: plus, the same nail polish on the hand that brings the water as the one who drinks it...
@coffin7904
@coffin7904 2 роки тому
@@viktoriaking4064 ik I hate seeing spoilers as top comments
@thejesuschrist
@thejesuschrist 2 роки тому
I love you Joel
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 2 роки тому
I love you Jesus❤️
@miguelbotelloor
@miguelbotelloor 2 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver wait Jesus! he is Judas!
@milktea6676
@milktea6676 2 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver ship it
@ralek592
@ralek592 2 роки тому
@@robertevans9962 Purpose is overrated. We just wanna live and wanna do it however the fuck it comes into our minds, no matter how terrible or weird or pointless. Principles are great, sometimes they play into our chaotic nature, or predictable nature. But they're not necessary.
@walrider
@walrider 2 роки тому
@@robertevans9962 I also find it weird even though I'm not christian. Especially because he makes money out of this.
@eemia26
@eemia26 2 роки тому
Joel's little facial expressions as he sees his partner struggling with her inner demons... So subtle, so real. Just a brilliantly made film and so believable that I forgot he was playing both parts.
@pieinatophat8167
@pieinatophat8167 2 роки тому
Thanks for making this Joel. My girlfriend has been distant recently and she told me it was because she was stressed out. I wasn't sure if she was telling the truth. It almost seemed like she was getting bored of me. But now looking back over the past month, I realize now it's just the old guy screaming in her face. Thank you for putting things into perspective for me, Joel. I appreciate you
@Doug-nc2ov
@Doug-nc2ov 2 роки тому
I hope things are going well with you and your partner, I had the same problem. I couldn’t fix it.
@JeyUU
@JeyUU 2 роки тому
How Joel can make a love story with Joel that only lasts for 9 minutes and 16 seconds and its way better than most romance movies. The conversation between the two Joel's felt so real.
@atra7xroxs
@atra7xroxs 2 роки тому
i thought this too, but then i realized that joel loving girl joel is just him coming to terms with the fact that you have to love yourself. "then you came along and i was happy". then joel found self love and was happy
@TheFos88
@TheFos88 2 роки тому
It really did. And even ended with me in tears.
@TheFos88
@TheFos88 2 роки тому
@@atra7xroxs this is a great take. I actually felt like it was a kind of Jungian in a way. A conversation between his ego and his Anima. I'm not sure what the intention was in this but I do feel like this is a possibility.
@Grace-uj8ue
@Grace-uj8ue 2 роки тому
the chemistry between joel&joel is so…magical…I even came up with a ship name-joel[jo-el]!
@ValentijnEnJack
@ValentijnEnJack 2 роки тому
Taking self love to a new level
@sknoy7792
@sknoy7792 2 роки тому
JoJo
@sonman3694
@sonman3694 2 роки тому
Awful. I like my ship names to start with SS.
@pootisbardo019
@pootisbardo019 2 роки тому
jojo elel
@mjf69
@mjf69 2 роки тому
Born is the king of UKposts-iel.
@zebfross
@zebfross 2 роки тому
It’s incredible how you can make that dress, wig, and beard look completely normal with such great acting. The chemistry between these two characters is just unreal.
@Goat-on-a-Stick
@Goat-on-a-Stick 2 роки тому
Never stop bein you, Joel
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 2 роки тому
I won’t
@comp.lex4
@comp.lex4 Рік тому
@@Joel-Haver I think you should, but like, only for a little bit, to play a character. And then be you again. That's the best I think
@lacilorax
@lacilorax 2 роки тому
This is surprisingly powerful. It's so frustrating and heartbreaking just watching someone struggle, being helpless when you want nothing more than to run in and save them but you can't. Maybe I'm reading too much into it but thats what I got from it.
@andecase
@andecase 2 роки тому
I'll never understand how you can have the skill to do both the complete absurdist comedy, and the deeply serious and emotional so well. I hope you get the recognition you deserve.
@kndhrty
@kndhrty 2 роки тому
Comedy is about deep emotions and high level acting. Never understood people being suprised by the overlap(not trying to sound aggro)
@ralek592
@ralek592 2 роки тому
@@kndhrty Comedy is like.. fetishes. No matter how weird or odd or painful, someone will probably get a kick out of it.
@yourfather8865
@yourfather8865 2 роки тому
@@kndhrty That's true, we tend to forget that
@andecase
@andecase 2 роки тому
@@kndhrty that's fair, I guess it's just because I seldom see both done so well by the same person. It seems most people I see can do one or the other well.
@DjurslandsEfterskole
@DjurslandsEfterskole 2 роки тому
I know right? It's really impressive. I feel like both his absurdist comedy and deeply emotional work taps into something raw. I think that's the skill and foundation that makes both equal outlets, rather than opposites
@PurposelessRabbitholes
@PurposelessRabbitholes 2 роки тому
You’re such a great actor, man. Consistently underplayed and real. Just love watching you do your thing.
@larsgoran9926
@larsgoran9926 2 роки тому
Im just glad they stopped this whole critical thing, it was amazingly unfunny. Love his other videos tho
@Kev_The_Wev
@Kev_The_Wev 2 роки тому
@@larsgoran9926 to oooo
@larsgoran9926
@larsgoran9926 2 роки тому
@@Kev_The_Wev ?
@nestibear
@nestibear 2 роки тому
Having a gf and you are both happy and everything is going well would be an absolutely insaneo style moment
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 2 роки тому
🙌💯🙌
@mitchelkvedar674
@mitchelkvedar674 2 роки тому
My girlfriend just broke up with me and she's everything, she deserves the whole world. Lost feelings randomly one day I guess, wishes she could explain it herself. She was the right person wrong time I suppose. "Maybe if we were 30" she said. Feel myself walking around the house like that, thinking of those conversations, or ironically getting her water all the time just like this. Same old song and dance, now loving from a distance, just like the others. I'll always love the time we had together though. Either way, thanks for these super realistic videos Joel. You the man. We loved watching your vids.
@mitchelkvedar674
@mitchelkvedar674 2 роки тому
your videos always brighten the day
@anthonyvelasquez1277
@anthonyvelasquez1277 2 роки тому
Hey man, same happened to me once. It takes time, but eventually you'll be ok. You'll find someone who really cares about you as much as you care about them.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 2 роки тому
Sorry to hear that Mitchel, hope you can move through this heartache gracefully❤️
@mitchelkvedar674
@mitchelkvedar674 2 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver Thanks so much Joel! You are such a wholesome dude. Much love! You as well on whatever people helped you create this masterpiece and when you find yourself thinking about that glass of water yourself ❤
@gunnerwolf
@gunnerwolf 2 роки тому
Same happened to me brother. I was dating a girl, she moved across the country, we tried dating long distance, she broke up with me. I thought it was the distance... I moved across to country, met up with her and found out she actually just lost interest. It's so hard to be on this side of the break up. I've been trying to make sense of it. What I've come up with is: I tremendously respect her for following through with her feelings and letting me go rather than allowing me drag her around in a one sided relationship. I think she made the right choice, initiating and following through with a break up can be very hard. This is only something I've recently learned. I can continue to love her, and probably will forever, but that doesn't mean that I can't love someone else. Regadless of my feelings for her, it's pointless to waste energy trying to win her back or holding myself back from moving on. And lastly, In the moment, every person I've been with I think is the best person I'll ever be with.. then months (or more likely years) later I somehow find someone I feel is even better! This moment sucks.. but I'm telling myself I'll look back at this day and laugh about how hopeless I felt. I hope something here helps you man. And in the end, when you feel like you have no other options and your emotional back is against the wall, you might try praying to God/spirit guides/the universe/etc... Pray that your lonely mind can be clear, or for a rebound, or to meet someone who loves you again. Worth a shot and at the very least, vocalizing your honest deep down needs is valuable
@michaelscardino8614
@michaelscardino8614 2 роки тому
Joel is really flexing his creative prowess with these
@emorigio
@emorigio 2 роки тому
All Joel does is flex his talent, in acting, in production, in creativity, in his friends. Like, this is prime youtube, the youtube we don't deserve, yet we have this one Joel. Magical times
@Jojo-om7uy
@Jojo-om7uy 2 роки тому
This is such a hard hitting topic one that isn’t covered very well in a lot of media. I appreciate how realistic this is, especially with how the guy responded to her struggles. Forced positivity, then realization settles in that he can’t fix it. Depression/burn out can be messily shown and usually it’s all fixed because the friend says “I’m here for you!” But, I appreciate the realism in this. It’s a hard battle to win and communication is key.
@anushshah21
@anushshah21 2 роки тому
Damn. This is what I'm going through in my life currently. 😪
@Jojo-om7uy
@Jojo-om7uy 2 роки тому
@Nonaya Bidness i think it’s serious as he posts a lot of these and puts work into the camera angles and such. Could be a joke, either way it’s cool.
@tsawy6
@tsawy6 Рік тому
@Nonaya Bidness I dunno, I connect a ton to it. Like, the way she describes the man screaming... it's a little incoherent, and you can read that as a little humorous but... it's still a problem she's dealing with. And he acts real emotion with it. And that template, that pattern where your friends and loved ones are communicating their struggles, and they don't really make sense to you, but you be there for them anyways, because they are something good in your life. That's something I find meaningful. I really really like this series.
@earthwalker7992
@earthwalker7992 Рік тому
When he fell down on that bed.....I felt that!
@Azimii
@Azimii 2 роки тому
it sucks cause i can just imagine all of the happy times these two had together, even though they’re both joel it somehow feels so real lmao
@blatchie4608
@blatchie4608 2 роки тому
There's more happy times to come if you wait until the very end :)
@Khavrenrockz
@Khavrenrockz 2 роки тому
Literally just got the "I'm so sorry..." text and holy fuck this hurts. Fresh wound, obviously. Another beautiful piece, Joel. And to anyone ready don't let others string you along
@blatchie4608
@blatchie4608 2 роки тому
I hope you find the happiness you deserve too ♥️
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 2 роки тому
I wish you the strength to move through your heartache, there are always brighter days ahead
@narly.noodle
@narly.noodle 2 роки тому
Wtf
@thegreatdestroyerr
@thegreatdestroyerr 2 роки тому
Best wishes to you. I'm also going through some struggles... found that the wife cheated. Working on getting her kicked to the curb, but boy was I not ready for the mental/emotional toll something like this has on a person. Truly destroyed me! I'm still a mess, but little by little I'll get there. Not sure where "there" is yet, but I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually lol.
@spookyho5994
@spookyho5994 Рік тому
I hope you’re doing well, best of wishes to you
@TheMusic1391
@TheMusic1391 2 роки тому
I really like that she stayed in the end. In my view, it shows the complexity of relationships. Sometimes there are difficult conversations where it all seems to lead to the same outcome; breaking up. But often love consists of recognising and acknowledging your own individual battles and struggles. While talking about them is important, it doesn't necessarily mean the partner is part of the 'problem' or 'solution'. I think the end of the video shows that the one talking about the screaming man acknowledges that she doesn't want to lose her partner. And when that feeling is mutual, they can find out ways to give each other space (in both mental or physical sense) to work on themselves and fight their own psychological battles. In that way, the feeling of mutual trust can become very strong.
@d4rk4rrow
@d4rk4rrow Рік тому
I agree with this. I was praying for that hand to show up when he put that glass down because if she’s still there that means they are still working on it together and will make life functional somehow.
@Spritedvideos
@Spritedvideos 2 роки тому
This is such a great short film. It's the type of movie only someone who has sat through these moments could comprehend and grasp the gravity of these kinds of talks. Having to sit through a moment with someone you're dearly in love with and swallow a reality you couldn't see before you, and then it hits like an endless wave of untold proportions. Love ya dude, and I hope if you had to go through this recently you can keep moving forward. Life is hard but you were here yesterday and you'll be here tomorrow, so keep pushing on.
@filipsperl
@filipsperl 2 роки тому
Not having that unfortunate experience doesn't take away from the film, I think.
@l3adbullet
@l3adbullet 2 роки тому
I love how real this is. It's unforgivably awkward but not clumsy. You can tell how much thought the girl put herself through before coming over and you can tell just how much the guy cares for her and wants her to feel better. That line about collecting people to love from a distance is so raw. The visual of the old man screaming louder and louder is so present. Keep doing what your doing what you're doing Joel, it makes a whole lot of people feel happy and sad in the best ways.
@KlemensasKozlovas
@KlemensasKozlovas 2 роки тому
It just shows that we truly talk in riddles because being blunt is too hard ,this was great!
@tylers1219
@tylers1219 2 роки тому
thats how depression feels, except behind the screaming man is everything in your life; friends, family, hobbies, hopes, dreams, aspirations. No matter where you are in life, no matter what your doing, you can always rely on the screaming old man to be there, drowning out everything else until you hear nothing. Great video joel ♥️
@mouwersor
@mouwersor Рік тому
I recommend psychedelics
@galenm4
@galenm4 2 роки тому
“It got to the point where I was collecting people that I could love from a distance” That hit deep
@ThePolkadog
@ThePolkadog 2 роки тому
This made me genuinely tear up. Thank you for making this.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 2 роки тому
Thanks for watching
@han__cholo
@han__cholo 2 роки тому
Whenever he puts out these types of videos, they send me on a wave of emotions. I'll usually laugh, smile, and then almost cry. I appreciate you Joel.
@j.gorenflo
@j.gorenflo 2 роки тому
Have you watched any of his movies? The ones I've seen so far have this sort of depth.
@dianalondono5599
@dianalondono5599 2 роки тому
@@galaxyknuckles9000 search for pretend that you love me. A fucking gem
@j.gorenflo
@j.gorenflo 2 роки тому
@@galaxyknuckles9000 I've watched Forget About Everything For A While, Taking a Little Time to Feel Sorry For Myself, I'm Going To Be Famous, and Island. All of them have moments of quiet contemplation and just invite you to think about the loneliness of being human.
@jojonono2679
@jojonono2679 2 роки тому
Already know this about to go insaneo style! (In all seriousness, I'm excited for this episode in the "love" arc).
@AxxLAfriku
@AxxLAfriku 2 роки тому
should i skip school for youtube video making? i making good stuff but i need much time to making. maybe replace school with making videos. i have two girlfriends. thanks for your opinion dear jojo
@jojonono2679
@jojonono2679 2 роки тому
Should I delete my comment just so I don't have to see Axxl's stupid ass replies? Also being a douchbag who gloats about having women doesn't make you cool. It makes you annoying.
@naiknaik8812
@naiknaik8812 2 роки тому
@Axxl i feel like you should keep doing school since it ususally gives you more opportunities in life. UKposts isnt really that stable of an income and youll really need some other source to support it, unless of course you blow up and stuff. So yeah i think you should continue school and also congrats with your 2 girlfriends i hope you're doing well.
@adityagawande8142
@adityagawande8142 2 роки тому
I have recently started observing that generally characters in Joel's videos have a disconnect in their communication, they will repeat things to clarify, try to give context afterwards in an awkward manner, among other things. These things are much more realistic, and they give a very different feel to these videos, unmatched by anything else, except like actual vlogs, but with awkward pauses and misunderstandings.
@blatchie4608
@blatchie4608 Рік тому
I come back to this video every so often. As of 20 minutes ago, I mutually ended the relationship with a girl I have been seeing for about 4 months. Same kind of dynamic going on in this video too. She's going to take some time and work on her OCD before we talk again and we can see where it goes. I think that watching this again has really helped me process it all.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver Рік тому
I wish you well through your healing, thanks for coming back and watching this❤️
@Battury
@Battury 2 роки тому
Me, lying in bed with my gf: "Oh, a new Joel video! Let's watch it together :) " THANKS, JOEL 🤣
@TaylorWeston
@TaylorWeston 2 роки тому
Same here, except it's just me with myself in a wig.
@EchidnaKida
@EchidnaKida 2 роки тому
@@TaylorWeston Dude same. You and I are like on the same page or something, like from a book. Now that's what I call Insaneo-Style.
@Vizceral
@Vizceral 2 роки тому
I've been alone for so long that I can't even imagine what it would be like to live through a moment like this.
@notsure1969
@notsure1969 2 роки тому
Just create a new personality in your head to start dating. You'll be fine. Nobody will think you're crazy.
@paulmillcamp
@paulmillcamp 2 роки тому
Hey I know this doesn't mean much coming from a random person like me, but change is always possible, and so is love ❤️ life may surprise you yet
@ryankerr2324
@ryankerr2324 2 роки тому
You meet people when you least expect it, just focus being your best you.
@Azimii
@Azimii 2 роки тому
honestly what helped me with meeting and courting my wife was holding myself to a standard of someone i could and would consider myself marrying. i wanted to marry someone happy and respectful and lovely, so i worked on being that for her
@blatchie4608
@blatchie4608 2 роки тому
@@Azimii that's really cute :)
@mrduckeatsbread
@mrduckeatsbread Рік тому
This is so beautiful holy shit. I just love the way Joel makes movies. He's not afraid to let a scene breath and he takes his time holding on shots to give us this beautiful closeness to the the characters. The silences make it so realistic and beautiful and then the dialogue is just so natural and hard hitting. I love this so much
@Ninjashifter
@Ninjashifter 2 роки тому
Love the small details in your performances and cinematography. This is your strongest emotional piece since "Pretend That You Love Me" in my opinion. Make more of this kind of stuff!
@vick207
@vick207 Рік тому
Well he released a whole movie with this thematic
@tricitydrip8928
@tricitydrip8928 2 роки тому
Putting up more walls every time someone tries to tear them down to get to us. The more affection we get, the louder the voices get, saying we don't deserver love, them, or to be happy. Our past negative experiences/relationships hindering our ability to truly open up and love again.
@TheCatnipCinema
@TheCatnipCinema 2 роки тому
Your second line, is this what the old man screaming is? I now just realized this. I have this same issue and never thought of it this way. The more affection my boyfriend gives me the more I resist it and think I don't deserve it.
@igorviniciustrombettadeoli2602
@igorviniciustrombettadeoli2602 2 роки тому
@@TheCatnipCinema I have a problem with my mind. It's nothing medical, I guess, but psychological, probabaly. I can't stay quiet in a good situation, for my brain start telling me stories of how everything will go sour, eventually. These stories are coocked part from traumas, part from fears. I'm currently fighting myself so I can get my mind to quiet down and let me enjoy the good moments in life, not only relationship ones. I don't know if this is relatable to you, but, for me, that's the screaming man I want not to hear anymore, for he have nothing trully important to say.
@EtamirTheDemiDeer
@EtamirTheDemiDeer 2 роки тому
Thank you for sharing this. Hits where it needs to for me
@TheCatnipCinema
@TheCatnipCinema 2 роки тому
@@igorviniciustrombettadeoli2602 thanks for sharing your perspective. I don't have the exact trauma you have but I too have a very hard time turning my brain off to just relax every once in a while. To be honest, some people are born being what is called in the psychology field "neurotic" while others develop it thru trauma. I am naturally neurotic and part of that is my adhd influencing it too as well as adoption. I'm naturally very anxious and fidgety. Also self deprecating too. I hope you can find peace even with your traumas and life experiences.
@Ethan-ys2ri
@Ethan-ys2ri 2 роки тому
This piece made me respect your art and your work so much more. I felt this, weird timing since I’m currently still healing a few months after a breakup that lasted 5+ years
@dameonk
@dameonk 2 роки тому
If you haven't seen Joel's feature length movie, "Pretend That You Love Me", I highly recommend it. It's on his channel.
@crispychubs
@crispychubs 2 роки тому
"Everyone I love is the same old song and dance of right person wrong time. And it got to the point where I felt like I was just collecting people I'd have to love from a distance." Nothing is more perfect than this. It hurts and it's beautiful and maybe it's beautiful because it hurts. I hope we all find the right person right time. Collect the one who we can love up close.
@lilyg3905
@lilyg3905 2 роки тому
"The more you cheer me on, the more he screams" ugh...I can't even put it into words. Another beautiful masterpiece that left me reeling.
@ur.new.valentine
@ur.new.valentine 2 роки тому
this is one of the best 9 minutes ive spent lately. almost hit me as hard as Pretend That You Love Me did :)
@justuhlittlelit319
@justuhlittlelit319 2 роки тому
pretend that you love me is fucking rough on the soul
@joshuagiuliani3619
@joshuagiuliani3619 2 роки тому
Might need to check it out
@ur.new.valentine
@ur.new.valentine 2 роки тому
@@joshuagiuliani3619 you should! its such a raw masterpiece. i hope you go check it out
@joshuagiuliani3619
@joshuagiuliani3619 2 роки тому
@@ur.new.valentine Just watched it. Crazy.
@ur.new.valentine
@ur.new.valentine 2 роки тому
@@joshuagiuliani3619 i hope youre recovering well lmao :))) it took me like an hour to just sit and process all i saw and how much it resonated in all the best and worst ways. its amazing such a funny man can still produce such deep and personal and raw works like that
@JordanMHollowayComposer
@JordanMHollowayComposer 2 роки тому
These are always phenomenal but this one hit different. The other ones have that fun Joel Haver-y absurdist whimsy to them to at least some degree, but this one feels so real. Nearly brought me to tears. I've had the old man in my face before; in front of my partner, but I never thought to word it that way. Amazing job.
@TheCatnipCinema
@TheCatnipCinema 2 роки тому
This one part confused me. What is the old man a representation of? I'm having a hard time seeing what this meant.
@joravadamee6646
@joravadamee6646 2 роки тому
@@TheCatnipCinema I took it to represent anxiety and the various pressures of life. Sometimes those pressures drown out the sound of support of those around you, and sometimes that support just adds to the pressure and anxiety until it gets louder and more unbearable. That was my interpretation, at least.
@evigvandrare
@evigvandrare 2 роки тому
@@TheCatnipCinema It's a good metaphor for depression, too. All these good things make a scratch in the surface, or get your head above water for a moment, but you're still drowning.
@TheCatnipCinema
@TheCatnipCinema 2 роки тому
@@evigvandrare someone else referred to it as "The more affection we get, the louder the voices get, saying we don't deserve love, them, or to be happy." and I personally relate to this. I love that Joel's video means so much to many different people in different situations.
@NomSauce
@NomSauce 2 роки тому
@@TheCatnipCinema The old man doesn't have to be anxiety, depression or whatever the others mentioned. That's kind of the point of it and why the description is so "vague" or general. It's because there's a million different things in life that can stand in your way, that cause you great stress, anger, sadness or whatever the emotion/problem is. The old man represents every possible struggle there is, the reason why Joel isn't mentioning anything specific here because the same result the skit is showing, can happen no matter the root cause/issue. For one person it can be anxiety, for another it can be depression and for someone else it could be suicidal tendencies. What matters is that the old man is a battle that the person themselves have to win, you can receieve support and it helps. But in the end, the ability to remove the screaming comes internally, because internally is where its screaming in the first place. Basically the reason the suffering character is saying that the old man screams louder the more Joel is supporting. Is because the more support they receive, the less they grow and so the more vulnerable they become to the screaming, turning even more dependant on Joel. Sometimes you can't grow when your support is supporting you too much, kind of how you can't learn to ride a 2-wheel bike if you never remove the support wheels. There's nothing inherently wrong with the wheels, they're doing what they're supposed to do, if anything they're too good. The wheels themselves are not at fault, it's the person using the wheels, they're too afraid to move forwards using their own balance. This is where you can start having spiraling, negative thought loops of self-hatred, shame and severe loss of confidence. The person will feel terrible for needing support wheels in the first place, "I'm so stupid" "I'm so pathetic", which in turn makes it harder to even remove the wheels in the first place. "What if I fail?" "What if everyone will see what a failure I am?" "What if I can't make it?" "What if I fall so hard I can't get back up". They will then proceed to loop that thought into shameful thinking, "I'm scared to remove the wheels because I'm such a weak coward, I won't amount to anything". Their inability to remove the wheels, the fear, loops back into the initial thoughts of feeling pathetic etc, each empowering the next thought in the spiral. This one of many common pitfalls that causes people to stay in toxic/abusive relationships, no matter if it's a partner, parents, friend or boss/work etc. Paraphrasing Joel's character "It's always the wrong place the wrong time", the old man unfortunately does represent that kind of issue. It's the classic, it's not you it's me, except it's the real deal. Something that happens a looot between ages of 20-35, not saying it's weird outside of that range, just how much more common it is. Joel hasn't done anything directly wrong, he's doing the right thing, but it's in the wrong place at the wrong time, or it can be the right place at the wrong time and vice versa. It's a complex internal struggle that varies per individual, hence why the vague description of "Old man screaming". Because the overall feeling and or result is the same.
@nakedneighborband
@nakedneighborband 2 роки тому
Joel’s acting is truly something to behold. His meta style and underplayed performances remind me so much of John Cassavetes movies
@michaelmoratto
@michaelmoratto 2 роки тому
The story of these two is so good, and has such calming, real, not emotionally manipulative humanity to it god I love it so much. You gotta add these to the Dating Trilogy Playlist, their story NEEDS TO BE TOLD. This is therapy, for so many people. And will help so many more
@GlazednConfused
@GlazednConfused 2 роки тому
Right person wrong time hits way to close to home for way too many people Joel, please .
@TheFos88
@TheFos88 2 роки тому
Finally. The master of love. This was incredibly moving. The story of the screaming old man actually ended up putting a nice lump in my throat. I think we all have a screaming old man in our lives. Also, your filmmaking/editing abilities never cease to amaze.
@dork_mork6953
@dork_mork6953 2 роки тому
Mine’s my dad 🙃
@disasteriz3766
@disasteriz3766 2 роки тому
I love that you don't know if she left him or not until you see her hand on the last scene. There is a really good story behind the film although it feels like it's a simple one. You are held constantly on the verge of them breaking up and the fact that there is nothing the male character can do to fix the situation makes you feel so weak. When she said "the more you cheer me on, the more he keeps screaming" she's really saying "maybe we should break up" without saying it. So they just sleep it off and see if their love is strong enough to handle this. This wasn't just a gig for Joel showing off his acting skills, it was damn story.
@KALLAN8
@KALLAN8 Рік тому
"You know how happy I was when I found you? Everyone I love is just the same old song and dance of; right person the wrong time. And it got to point that I began to feel like I was just collecting people I would need to love from a distance. And then you came along and I was happy you where here." ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@CH-zi7fl
@CH-zi7fl 2 роки тому
I'm glad that I could be taught about love from the Love Master himself.
@notsure1969
@notsure1969 2 роки тому
These videos are pure feelings, man. I'm not crying. You're crying. Also, the music at the end is beautiful. Sounds like modern day Dylan.
@12feetup
@12feetup 2 роки тому
The song is "Trouble" by Yusuf Islam a.k.a. Cat Stevens. The original recording was featured in the 1971 movie Harold and Maude.
@scilik
@scilik 2 роки тому
@@12feetup beat me to it haha, it's one of my favorite cat stevens tracks.
@gorpazorp7309
@gorpazorp7309 2 роки тому
joel, you make me feel things i would have never known i had to feel naturally. i hope you are doing well my dude.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 2 роки тому
Happy I could help you feel something you had to, thanks for watching. All things considered I’ve been good, just gotta take the bad in stride. Wish you the best❤️
@dorothygilley3194
@dorothygilley3194 2 роки тому
Emotions hardly make any sense, sometimes I get into a funk and I feel like gf Joel a lot. My fiancé sticks by my side and always is understanding and helps me see past the screaming old man and beat him up lol. This hit home Joel, you’re brilliant. Stuff’s hard, it felt like they both were in a valley of confusion and a level of emotional distress. Maybe I am projecting. It’s hard to see and fix the issue the other is dealing with, especially when you both are in the same boat and unable to articulate nor understand it in a straightforward way… sometimes people break up because of it. Sometimes people grow stronger with it. My fiancé and I decide to grow together with our challenges, that’s how it works for us. Love never leaves, but sometimes I fall into a depression (medical/chemical, not due to my situation or environment) and it’s hard to see past the fog over my eyes and how the world loses all color. His anxiety hurts him, too. In our pain it can be difficult to connect, we may push away each other or grow distant because we don’t want to be burdens or we get frustrated. In the end, though, I find myself in his arms under a blanket playing animal crossing and fortnite. Sometimes that’s all I need, sometimes it’s all he needs. It’s silly but somehow I feel so connected when we do that. Even in a perfect relationship people will lose feelings of joy or giddiness, and they will eventually come back. Love is the continuous self-sacrificing of the self for the other. A wanting of good for the other. Even when we are in the pits of mental anguish, we are always there for each other until we get back up that hill. And even then we stay there with each other. Ah, I’m sorry this went on so long… thank you for reading this far, I wish you the best in life and love, God bless all of y’all. 💕
@altusshow7574
@altusshow7574 2 роки тому
Beautiful, Joel. I think most people can relate to this. Slowly falling out of love is one of the worst things to go through, at least with explosive breakups you can look back and think "this. This is why it ended, these moments right here". But a slow dissolution of a relationship is the hardest, because you're always left wondering what happened, what you did, what you _could've_ done. Even though often there's nothing anyone could do, we still torture ourselves with the possibility. I love your films, they are so uniquely human. I fully believe someday you'll have all the recognition as a filmmaker you deserve. One of the best of this generation.
@zantas-handle
@zantas-handle 2 роки тому
She didn't accept the straw. It was late at night. She took the morning water.
@zwoosh2288
@zwoosh2288 2 роки тому
Haiku?
@goldeneddie
@goldeneddie 2 роки тому
@@zwoosh2288 You're right! It is a Haiku - wow, well spotted!
@goldeneddie
@goldeneddie 2 роки тому
Zanta dude, you've excelled yourself - captured the spirit of this little film, the time passing, the water symbolism and the character arc in 17 syllables! I hope Joel spots this.
@Raxerm
@Raxerm 2 роки тому
Kevin's piece for this is perfect. Such a homemade and vulnerable feel to it. Very good video in general. The dialogue and pauses in conversation feel very real.
@evigvandrare
@evigvandrare 2 роки тому
I think how raw the song feels makes it hit that much harder. Feels like your own personal soundtrack in your head.
@0CircleMaker0
@0CircleMaker0 2 роки тому
The acting is so good that Joel being in a dress isn't comical, it's just a nice little film.
@rngzus4834
@rngzus4834 2 роки тому
God I'm glad the charlieverse series brought me here. I've watched a few of your feature films(and plan to watch all of them) and they are bringing emotions out of me that i didn't know I had. Thanks Joel for the entertainment, inspiration, and healing.
@altusshow7574
@altusshow7574 2 роки тому
Have you watched Pretend You Love Me? It's not only the best Joel Haver film, it's my favorite film on UKposts, and maybe the most realistic of desperate loneliness I've ever seen.
@rngzus4834
@rngzus4834 2 роки тому
@@altusshow7574 Yes! I loved it. It was the first one I watched, but "Taking a little time to feel sorry for myself" has got to be my favourite
@Jim-vq9yg
@Jim-vq9yg 2 роки тому
You can tell the chemistry is real. Probably got most of these shots in one take or less.
@Just_A_Gun_Guy
@Just_A_Gun_Guy 2 роки тому
"Do you know how happy I was I found you? Everyone I love is just the same old song and dance of... right person, the wrong time. And it got to the point that it began to feel like I was just collecting people I'd have to love from a distance.. and then you came along, and I was happy you were here." Man I felt that one deep.
@lucydearden5625
@lucydearden5625 2 роки тому
Man, I think Joel is so cute but he and he make such a cute couple. Seriously though, I loved the “collecting people” line. Amazing writing.
@SamuelRush
@SamuelRush 2 роки тому
You're a real talent sir, beautiful dialogue, heart wrenching content and a real honest modest performance.
@kaji350
@kaji350 2 роки тому
That “loving people from a distance” line hit me hard. Thank you for the video, Joel. I hope you can get through this heartbreak.
@justincruz8050
@justincruz8050 2 роки тому
A true mark of an artist is the ability to pry something out of the viewer that was already there. Like an invasive clairvoyant, you've ripped this moment out of myself and presented it to me. You've crafted this snapshot of a relationship so vividly and authentically that I'm left in awe.
@tsawy6
@tsawy6 Рік тому
I love this series so much. I think that line in 'the end of Dating:' is a relevant here. "It's been so long since someone told me something that mattered". These are weird, and obtuse, and confusing, but beautiful and meaningful and real. I love them so much, and this is what I think media should be (at least, more).
@beclops
@beclops 2 роки тому
This vid hit my heart in a way that can only be described as insaneo style
@deadgonk1
@deadgonk1 2 роки тому
I'm not nearly deep enough to try and understand what this means. I tend to take things literally, which is why I also have a hard time explaining my own love to someone. The old man is anything that is in the way, I know you're there, I can see you, I can see you trying to move him, I can hear you cheering me on, but the old man is always there, he's always screaming at me, always in my face. The old man is anything, anxiety, depression, responsibilities, hobbies, other friends. I don't think the screaming has to be indicative that the old man is a bad thing, but just that he's right there and loud and you can't ignore it. The response is so basic from Joel but means so much. You're here, and I'm happy. I might be behind the old man, but I'm *Always* there. He might be in the way, but he's in the way of you too. And I'm still here. I'm still behind the old man. I still see you, can you still see me? I hope so, because I never want to stop seeing you. However loud, obnoxious, in the way, obtrusive, this guy is, I'm still here.
@chillcreep4926
@chillcreep4926 2 роки тому
This is it. I was trying to explain it to myself but couldn't quite figure it out. I wondered why Joel didn't finish what felt like a goodbye - "do you know how happy I was that I found you?" It wasn't a goodbye. It was just appreciation, and the statement of hope on its own: I know I can't fix this for you, but I'm still going to be here. I've had this moment when I try to explain my own issues and responsibilities to people. It makes me feel terrible - culture says love fixes everything, right? But it doesn't. The "you can't save me" speech. I have a tendency to get involved with people who have a lot of issues themselves - so there's me, the old man screaming in my face, the old man screaming in their face, and them. All of us trying to hold hands and get along. And yeah, maybe that's enough to end a relationship in its early stages. But I'm glad Joel has Joel to get them through, and I hope they come through better for it. Be excellent to each other.
@n.b.oDippa
@n.b.oDippa 2 роки тому
You say I alot
@sainttheresetaylor2054
@sainttheresetaylor2054 Рік тому
@@n.b.oDippa what do you mean?
@itsallinthesoup2543
@itsallinthesoup2543 2 роки тому
I don't think a lot of actors or writers could pull something like this off, but your really nailed it, dude.
@rae-everything
@rae-everything Рік тому
My old man as a screaming face is hair loss in my mid to late 20s. Fucked up my self-confidence, and self-identity. I'm still lost, but finally somewhat optimistic for the first time in a long time. Slowly rebuilding, and reimagining my life. I just don't want to be depressed, and bitter anymore.
@maisays8
@maisays8 2 роки тому
This is one of my favorite films by you. Love you, Joel.
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 2 роки тому
Love you too❤️
@devinholm6496
@devinholm6496 2 роки тому
Whenever I see Joel in a dress I can't help but smile
@ScavengerMerchant
@ScavengerMerchant 2 роки тому
Same
@majortritone
@majortritone 2 роки тому
...simp? Does this count?
@DiamondAppendixVODs
@DiamondAppendixVODs 2 роки тому
gender norms more like gender suggestions
@dork_mork6953
@dork_mork6953 2 роки тому
Same! Honestly more guys should try it, that shit is freeing
@eCartman321
@eCartman321 2 роки тому
Its odd with these videos, I know they are mostly based on relationships, but with you playing both characters I get underlining tone of self love. Maybe something that is needed before relationships can really work. Loved the short film ❤
@samuelkeene1589
@samuelkeene1589 2 роки тому
I want a feature length romcom starring Joel and Joel.
@ThomasInPrint
@ThomasInPrint 2 роки тому
Sometimes hearts are broken and the pieces seem to be impossible to pick back up. Yet, with time, the sun will shine bright and the tap water will be tapped again.
@jayjei9957
@jayjei9957 2 роки тому
"I love you, insaneo style."
@Joel-Haver
@Joel-Haver 2 роки тому
“I love to all the way to Bunko Town and back”
@michaelawheeland6415
@michaelawheeland6415 7 місяців тому
This one hit me hard. Went through a similar situation less than a month ago and, while I feel like I'm healing a bit more every day, sometimes the memories hit me in a crushing wave. She deserves the world, and I'm hoping against hope that she'll be able to make the old man scream at least a little bit less. Thank you Joel ❤️
@Linc995
@Linc995 2 роки тому
It's a different kind of love entirely, but my dog passed away on Friday morning. He was my soulmate in that "different kind of love" way. Gave me the best 13 years of friendship I've ever known. I don't know if it's what you intended, but you captured something about the vacant despondence that follows you the morning after. Trying to go through the motions and finding something that reminds you of them. Thanks for making something so heartfelt and honest, you're an excellent filmmaker and artist. Not everyone can make something that speaks so thoroughly to so many people in different ways.
@briankelly1240
@briankelly1240 2 роки тому
great song by Kevin there. Great staging, great acting. Just getting better and better, wishing you the best Joel!
@panthersfly
@panthersfly 2 роки тому
This sketch is like something straight out BUNKO TOWN
@notsure1969
@notsure1969 2 роки тому
I don't know. I personally think it goes pretty Insaneo style.
@jeffm2586
@jeffm2586 Рік тому
Dude, this is one of the most incredible things I have seen.
@acagnoprod
@acagnoprod 2 роки тому
I think Joel is the most prominent scholar in the love-studies field
@ValentijnEnJack
@ValentijnEnJack 2 роки тому
Putting so much love into something about love only strengthens whatever this is. I love seeing how many people seem so touched by Joel's stuff. It's good. I mostly just wanted to reply to help the aegörithm, I didn't want to post anything funny or deep. You know what's up. I just wanted to show some appreciation.
@marcrow9114
@marcrow9114 2 роки тому
C'mon you must feeling something
@bennettaukerman6802
@bennettaukerman6802 2 роки тому
Well, the tension here is.. palpable.. to say the least.. Very well done. Your ability to leave an imprint on the viewer never ceases to amaze me.
@captainkacke1651
@captainkacke1651 2 роки тому
Feeling like being screamed at constantly by an old man and being unable to enjoy the joys of life is a great way to explain mental struggles.
@BiggusDingus43
@BiggusDingus43 2 роки тому
thank you for making this Joel. this came out at the perfect time I needed to see this. literally made me sit still. take it all in. seriously from the bottom of my heart, thank you 💖
@Exiled_Q
@Exiled_Q 2 роки тому
those "right person, wrong time" lines hit home
@danretroman7913
@danretroman7913 2 роки тому
“To love oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance.” Oscar Wilde
@relyTrain
@relyTrain 2 роки тому
This is insaneo style entertainment with insaneo heartstring pull
@Gandythegoblin
@Gandythegoblin 2 роки тому
Loved the relief that she was still there in the morning
@RossageRoll
@RossageRoll 2 роки тому
This is one of my favorite videos you've ever done. It's hit me so hard this video....thank you Joel, we needed this.
@thekingsome8573
@thekingsome8573 2 роки тому
That’s the things with you Joel, every week we could get something hilariously absurd, something emotionally relatable, or something the treading the fine line between the two.
@russellesby179
@russellesby179 2 роки тому
That line of picking up right people at the wrong time hit deep
@rwrites9961
@rwrites9961 2 роки тому
You absolutely nailed the part where you want to know what's going on in the other person's mind but don't want to seem like you are prying or not finding the right way to ask. Also the thing when you just don't want the other person to be sad so you just keep blabbering and goofing around, hoping something you say might make the other person laugh or even smile. And how you yourself become more open when the other person opens up to you. Keep them coming Joel!
@elixdab
@elixdab 2 роки тому
Joel, your videos honestly induce every kind of emotion in me… One day you’re running over Sven Johnson in a cardboard box, then out of nowhere, you’re making me reminisce about a relationship that ended a decade ago. You’ve really evolved into such a well-rounded content creator in the last few years and I’m excited to see what other emotions you can bring out of me next.
@wretchedlamb
@wretchedlamb 2 роки тому
my heart has gone aflutter.....one might even call it "insaneo style"
@lisimbachiokejahiyazid4114
@lisimbachiokejahiyazid4114 Рік тому
“Everyone I love… is just the same old song & dance of.. ‘right person, wrong time.’ And it got to the point that I began to feel like I was just collecting people I’d have to love from a distance.” This hits home & hard! Instant tears… Thanks for being a real, honest, and vulnerable film maker. I needed this
@cifafs3
@cifafs3 2 роки тому
Incredible. The RANGE you have! I cry laughing from the Lanky Kong video like once a week, and watching this I’m so moved. Amazing work.
@zwoosh2288
@zwoosh2288 2 роки тому
This really hit me in a way that’s hard to put into words
@uckzie9873
@uckzie9873 2 роки тому
I love this short film. So heartwarming.
@jgreenjeans
@jgreenjeans 2 роки тому
Cat Stevens always brings back melancholy feelings for me in a nostalgic way.
@yuzurubrijer4556
@yuzurubrijer4556 Рік тому
Never thought I would cry to a Joel Haver's video
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