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@Joel-Haver3 роки тому
I've been working on this film for almost a year now and am beyond excited to finally share it. It is a deeply personal film and I hope it can offer people some sort of catharsis like it has for me. The film will be available here, for free, indefinitely, I understand if you choose to come back and watch it some other time. Thanks for your time and, as always, if you make a movie I'll watch it too. EDIT: Thank you for all the lovely comments, I’m reading them all and doing my best to respond. I recommend watching the movie before reading the comments as they might give too much away.
@KeegansLife3 роки тому
I love this movie so much. Forget forest gump, this is my favorite now.
@interwebbs13 роки тому
This is an excellent film, you should be very proud.
@Beginnerss3 роки тому
Far too relatable/desirable movie. Seeing this made me realize how much i still have to improve. Thank you and screw you! My poor comfort zone.
@christopher66003 роки тому
I just stumbled upon one of your shorts tonight, binged watch a bunch of your other shorts, and then came across this. I genuinely wasn't sure what to expect, or if I was even willing to dedicate an hour and a half towards watching this. I'm glad that I did. Holy shit, dude. I'm blown away. I have felt things in the last hour and a half that I haven't felt in years. And I have felt other feelings that I have never felt before in my life, with the realization that I should have let myself feel these things years ago as well. Goddamn. Absolutely brilliant. Thank you for making this, sincerely. I look forward to seeing the rest of your work, and whatever you make in the future.
@samuelclaessens76993 роки тому
I love this movie. Absolutly amazing Joel! I saw it yesterday and I’m thinking about this movie the whole time! I only know you 3 days sinse I got the ‘NPC’ video recommended and I started watching you and your dads stuff and I fell in love with this channel! I discovered your dad was dead in this movie and I saw his Snapchat stuff... I’m really sad about it even though I didn’t even know your dad personally! I can see how you are so funny, your personality seems based on his! Amazing... sorry I’m saying this like I know you or something but I just wanted to say these things in one comment🙃 You deserve every follower! KEEP UP THE GREAT CONTENT!!!!
@ToomanyFrancis3 роки тому
"I'm not sure if this is too soon, but, do you wanna see a magic trick?" That's definitely going in the arsenal.
@Mactakun3 роки тому
The care package
@Squishito3 роки тому
The loadout
@Anachronixhiphop3 роки тому
That line got me!
@milkgotzgames3 роки тому
That was genius plus humor gets the ladies hyped especially if you look like a confident fool
@natureclips58492 роки тому
Best way to date a girl: hire a bunch of models to make a film.
@Noblejimjam3 роки тому
Besides being an emotional wreck, Joel's sock game is on point for this entire film.
@Evan_C.3 роки тому
Is that some sexual innuendo or a reference to his socks?
@jhakardballoch29863 роки тому
I think sock game has a direct correlation to sex appeal
@flagretateglaplagar43513 роки тому
@@jhakardballoch2986 No bruh, it's just about his heckin' stylin socks.
@ryandejesus2363 роки тому
@@flagretateglaplagar4351 l
@LittleFifth2 роки тому
I needed to read this comment it helped dry the tears with laughter
@BigJoel2 роки тому
Jesus Christ man this is an incredible film and you should be so proud!!!
@Joel-Haver2 роки тому
Joel! It’s definitely one of my works I’m proudest of. Thanks so much for giving it your time, it means a lot to have another Joel watch it❤️
@vassilidario80292 роки тому
Love to see the two best Joels being supportive of each other
@BigJoel2 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver :-)
@mjr_schneider2 роки тому
You just relate to it because it's about a Joel. Jk I relate to it too and I'm not even a Joel.
@manamejeffbeezos12382 роки тому
OMG my two favourite joels, boys support boys, and joels support joels.
@droughdoughРік тому
Joel, I was friends with my partner for years. I knew she was the one after we watched this together and she turned to me with tears in her eyes and said it was beautiful. (Obviously I knew well before that but that solidified our shared appreciation of meta-narratives and appreciation of different kinds of love.) So thanks for giving me a two hour conversation about this film with the person I love.
@Joel-HaverРік тому
That’s really beautiful and special, thank you for sharing. I wish both of you the best❤️
@Horzinicla8 місяців тому
Is everything going well?❤
@HonsHon7 місяців тому
@Horzinicla nah he messaged me directly, and he said she wouldn't get out on that ice with him. Since only real couples do that, he snapped and attempted to throw her off a bridge. She climbed back up though and he tried to play it off as a joke. But, she wasn't buying it. Sad times honestly.
@NonSoSmartPerson5 місяців тому
@@HonsHon Am I high
@purple_ray884 місяці тому
wtf@@HonsHon
@NoahReadsSlowly3 роки тому
I feel like I shouldn’t be watching this. Like this is someone’s private footage. But I also feel like I shouldn’t be watching this because it’s my footage. Ya know.
@cameronstrommen17143 роки тому
at first I thought this was going to be Lo-Fi music and when it wasn't I was going to change it but something drew me in maybe it was the amateur film style but the more I watched it the more questions I had but I don't know what kind of questions to ask to resolve my curiosity whatever this was meant to be you nailed it.
@wudly91953 роки тому
I cant relate. I haven't had a girlfriend in forever
@NoahReadsSlowly3 роки тому
@@wudly9195 I’ve been single for almost 4 years brother. Feels bad man
@Dolphin._.3 роки тому
@@NoahReadsSlowly try 11 years. Step yo game up, kiddo! 😎
@Ceelker3 роки тому
@@Dolphin._. Try 24. Rookie.
@femaldavid3 роки тому
Honestly the fact that he's coming back almost a year later to read comments shows how much he cared for this piece. From watching the comedy bits I definitely wasn't expecting to see a whole movie, but I couldn't be more satisfied that this video exists.
@RedHairdo3 роки тому
He cares a lot about most, if not all, of his pieces, though. He still is going back to read comments on all of them. I'm sure now that his channel is blowing up, this will become harder and harder... But best of luck to him. The recognition is well-deserved.
@bigflx27543 роки тому
Almost a year? 6 months is almost year 🤔 but Ye it is pretty cool that he still is reading the comments
@zh96643 роки тому
@@bigflx2754 yeah, "almost a year" bruh it was 6 months... thats half and half is no where near "almost"
@tylerdurden6293 роки тому
7 months is not a year
@zh96643 роки тому
@@tylerdurden629 your original comment was "7 months is not a year, dumbass"
@kait711Рік тому
This film is absolutely incredible. Never have I been so suspended in disbelief at acting, to the point that I’m still questioning what was real and what was scripted. I even cried, which I haven’t done for a film in like a decade. Beautiful.
@colinstevens2462Рік тому
This man didn't watch Paddington 2
@mathcas4932Рік тому
@@colinstevens2462 I doubt I’ll ever think about Joel the same way after learning about this
@trident785214 днів тому
Omg its kait hivemind
@billymilgate9706Рік тому
This is probably my 4th time watching this film, I seem to always come back to it when a moment in my life has some sort of similarity to the film, and I find it really comforting. This film has such a wild way of capturing a odd style of reality for films involving romance, especially in comparison to other romance films with their fast paced relationships very fictitious ideas of romance. Its just something about the slow burn of events that is really special, the quiet moments where you think the take should've ended and the long pauses are deafening. I really enjoy this film and will come back yet again.
@Joel-HaverРік тому
It’s an honor that you would rewatch my movie four times, thank you Billy. I’m happy that it could provide something worth revisiting for you❤️
@THEFRISKIESTDINGO3 роки тому
"Do you have people you talk to, about your... life and the shit that goes wrong?" I took a break for an hour there.
@ShaneLouisArmstrong3 роки тому
"I have all the shirts now." Just hit really hard emotionally.
@c4n4d43 роки тому
whats that sensation you get in your throat when youre choked up? Is there a word for it other than choked up?
@Halofreaks95243 роки тому
@@c4n4d4 verklempt seems accurate
@FiLtheThriL3 роки тому
I thought he said shorts.
@WatOnsonn3 роки тому
I first thought this was a joke, then I finished watching the whole film. Damn.
@TomFewchuk2 роки тому
That's where I started crying
@batbite_2 роки тому
I find it interesting how well you portray how suffering is overdetermined: One thing doesn't make us suffer, a lot things together does.
@jguitar1512 роки тому
There’s no way you didn’t just actually fall in love with the Spanish woman irl. That connection seemed so genuine
@NeoriujinРік тому
Hell I fell in love with her a little lol
@goodbye3771Рік тому
fr tho
@esterhammerfic3 роки тому
Also: the women who were in this were either a) fantastic actors or b) willing to put themselves in an emotionally vulnerable place for a guy's film about his own loneliness, either way they should be applauded
@ZomboyFever3 роки тому
Do you know if theyre actually actors?
@esterhammerfic3 роки тому
@@ZomboyFever if they weren't before, they are now, this is a real film
@carvman2173 роки тому
@@esterhammerfic beautiful way to put it
@levimatulis69553 роки тому
They are actors because you can see the microphone transmitter packs in their back pockets at certain moments.
@Sebbir3 роки тому
@@levimatulis6955 i know its unlikely but it could just be that the girls agreed to let him record the date before hand
@GrandmasterofWin3 роки тому
Jesus. This is so damn vulnerable and honest. It's ironic that Hollywood films are so sterile and impersonal that they can show such high stakes stories and it doesn't phase me emotionally, but just an awkward pause in this has me on the edge of my seat or legitimately uncomfortable. I think the future of honest, human art is going to be online and fragmented. Thankful to live in a time where anyone can make and share a film. Thanks Joel for putting yourself out there. I'm inspired to finish my silly youtube projects now.
@Joel-Haver3 роки тому
Beautifully put, the future of film is imperfect and human and fully in our hands. It’s such an exciting time to create because the obstacles are less and less external, forcing the artist to look inward to challenge themselves. Thanks for watching. Finish those silly UKposts projects!
@nicklane90323 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver Thank you so so much for all of your creativity and engagement with your audience man :)
@LowdownBoy3 роки тому
@@nicklane9032 I really want to echo your response. I feel like I could dap him up because he's so personal and emotional. And thanks OP for your artfully put and thoughtful comment.
@whyisthisathing58163 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver please tell me where you buy your shirts
@shabchow8d661Рік тому
No filmmaker ever made me want to make films as much as Joel does, this is a masterpiece man. Everything he does is awesome.
@MattQuigleyРік тому
I am completely and utterly floored by this film. I doubt that Joel will ever see this comment (what with the count being up to 5k as I'm typing this), but one can still hope he does. Given the bits and pieces I've gleaned from various videos, I'm guessing Joel was 23 to 24 when he made this. With that in mind, it is an exceptionally sophisticated and shockingly well-executed piece. I'm aware of his dedication to the democratizing power of contemporary technology for shooting, editing, and distributing films, and the way he implores others to just do it. I had no idea, however, that among his numerous terrific and inspired collaborative sketches resided work of this poignance and profundity. Films about themselves are a tricky needle to thread and can so easily be a pretentious slog. Fellini nailed it 60 years ago and countless directors have fallen on their faces attempting similar feats since. I was very conscious early on that I was being reminded I was watching a film, but the piece does this -- with visible microphone packs and cutaways to webcam quality images and a great many carefully composed and stylized shots -- while sharing some of the most breathtakingly intimate moments that will ever occur in its director's life. When the musical number came in, I cried for the first time. Partially because it hits as a sincerely plaintive wail as the film flips from its ostensibly "naturalistic"/"voyeuristic" perspective to an inescapably cinematic one. In this moment where it brazenly announces that it's a film, beyond any dispute, it also delivers its first of many moments of nearly unbearably raw and real emotion. It takes a deft directorial touch to pull off that sort of thing and Joel definitely makes it look deceptively easy. And this he does while starring in the damned thing and acting his ass off. As a lifelong New Yorker I'll forever have a soft-spot for (good) films made here and he used his locations beautifully. His shot composition can be so evocative and moving, leaving you forgetting at times that you're watching a zero budget, effectively point and shoot film primarily featuring a series of static shots. Again, in the wrong hands this would be interminable, but here it's more frequently than not simply beautiful. I'm in my early-50s now and just lost my old man back in August of '21, but I lost my mother when I was 23, which I believe is how old Joel was when he lost his father. Our relationship was a bit different, but incredibly close. She also died after a long battle with cancer. She died during a time in my life of rather pronounced highs and lows -- perhaps the most extreme in this regard of any period before or since -- and through it all I remained lost and lonely and desperately searching, throwing myself into art (my band had just signed a sizable contract with a major label), and some other less constructive activities and distractions. Thing is, it is only with the benefit and wisdom of hindsight that I can recognize what I went through then. This makes the clarity with which Joel expresses his longing, confusion, loneliness, and loss here all the more astounding to me. This is truly a work so wise beyond its creator's years that even he may only realize to what degree in the decades to come. Okay - This isn't frigging Letterboxd, so I really should just shut up. I love that this thing could easily have done the festival circuit, or whatever, but by putting it here it has reached a far greater audience -- both in size and sympathy -- than it likely ever could have done via that route. In so many ways this film makes Joel's whole approach to filmmaking not merely inspiring in spirit, but in execution. I can see in the comments he's left here that he is proud of this, as he damned well should be.
@Blorckits11 місяців тому
It is still at 5k lol
@chrisoffersen10 місяців тому
Thank you for the insightful perspective on this film. Not being an artist, I don’t have the language to express how great-art makes me feel other than “wow. Observations like yours give me some tools to better understand where these emotions are coming from. Thanks again.
@Travis_DeGee9 місяців тому
It's like the only one he didn't heart
@MattQuigley5 місяців тому
I'm sure he just missed the comment... Right guys?! Right?! Joel Haver doesn't hate my awesome, heartfelt comment (that received 134 likes), does he? DOES HE?!
@minerman601013 місяці тому
@@MattQuigley if you edit a comment it removes the heart... you may have accidentally done yourself in there without realizing
@oldman66883 роки тому
FUCK, I just realized that "Pretend That You Love Me" is a paraphrase of what you told the actresses before filming. So many layers Joel.
@Ziqohth3 роки тому
damn you're right 🤯
@illestvillain19713 роки тому
Maybe
@deadtotheworld3 роки тому
God tear
@joanduthie16893 роки тому
@@deadtotheworld tier
@deadtotheworld3 роки тому
@@joanduthie1689 thanks
@kissmyacidrocks3 роки тому
This is the best advertisement for a Marvel movie i've ever seen. I'm buying ant man asap
@Jayden36493 роки тому
Make sure to buy the 2nd one aswell
@Carcosahead3 роки тому
Also Thor: The dark world
@jayjackson5932Місяць тому
I know you probably won't read this. But this movie made me feel more than any movie I have ever watched. Thank you for sharing it.
@davidzshitРік тому
I lost my dad when I was 18 before high school graduation. I'm 25 now and I haven't been able to cry for a long time now but the part where you're making your speech about the coke and the cloths made me cry. Thanks man it's nice to feel something
@Joel-HaverРік тому
I’m really sorry to hear about your loss. I’m glad you were able to feel something through the film. I find that the times where I can’t feel are hardest of all. I wish you the best❤️
@davidzshitРік тому
@@Joel-Haver Love your vids man, hope all is well
@MattMcAwesome123 роки тому
You lured me in with Marshall, The Town Rat, and sucker-punched me with this. In all seriousness, this was beautiful, man. Movies are always about the boisterous, amplified portions of love stories or life journeys; portrayed as every day needing to be a new chapter when really life is more of an epic. Not enough attention is paid to the small, quiet moments that set the foundation for the actual substance of any type of relationship. Thanks for doing that.
@tadwood85213 роки тому
The exact same thing happened to me, with the same video. UKposts algorithms work in mysterious ways. I'm glad they lead me here, through.
@guodan.3 роки тому
same here. damn this was a watch...
@ethanackroyd59443 роки тому
A crime most foul
@thereisonlycis35663 роки тому
Yup I watched replaying an rpg last night and instantly subscribed.
@darbiboi41563 роки тому
Marshall is a criminal now....
@JREG3 роки тому
Art
@sirgreyspear3 роки тому
Hi Jreg. Didn’t think I’d be seeing you here.
@headcrabn53473 роки тому
From Memeanalysis to Joel Haver, I think it's concerning how much my tastes align with the Jreg
@andrewolson15863 роки тому
Real recognizes real
@pernalonga-chan27473 роки тому
JREG WTF???
@raymickens4403 роки тому
Lovee to see all the Art this platform brings together.
@skylarmathison14812 роки тому
When Joel screamed "I need something that feels like love in my life" I balled like a baby. This hit so damn hard. You can TELL he has truly been through pain, and it really feels like he means it. So damn relatable, and made me want more from my life. Kinda therapeutic, and makes me want to move on and maybe be open to women again? Has me in a wierd place anyways
@joem13yearsago73Рік тому
Have you tried seeking your eternal Creator for love?
@proveitbrother5089Рік тому
@@joem13yearsago73 I keep writing letters to Danny Devito but he won't respond
@joem13yearsago73Рік тому
@@proveitbrother5089 keep writing. I'm sure he's saving them all in a special shoebox that he keeps under his bed❤
@proveitbrother5089Рік тому
@@joem13yearsago73 🥺❤
@Bluechief62 роки тому
My favorite thing you did right that movies don't... people take their shoes off when they're sitting on a bed.
@theonlyigg48112 роки тому
I mean I don't think his movies usually have a script, so it's mostly just people acting the way they normally would. Which makes it even more jarring when he BURSTS INTO A WHOLE ASS SONG OUT OF NOWHERE HALFWAY THROUGH THE MOVIE
@CloudMolester3 роки тому
This is the type of film I absolutely avoid watching. It's simply too personal, hits too close to home and actually makes you reflect. This is why I avoid these. That was amazing. I wasn't going to sit here and watch the whole thing, but here I am. Awesome work.
@Joel-Haver3 роки тому
It certainly is not an easy watch and I don't blame anyone who can't make it through. With that said, I'm happy you stuck it out. Thanks for giving the film your time
@gregneal57373 роки тому
Oh my god I am exactly in the same boat, I thought hey what's this? 1.5hrs later here I am and I haven't cried so much in a film in a long time.... Joel you are absolutely incredible at what you do. That was amazing, and so relatable and honest. I am so glad I watched that and thank you so, so much for making it.
@Bobotv10003 роки тому
Very well said , брат
@carsonkoenig97103 роки тому
Same
@dantonwatson32972 роки тому
This is the type of comment I absolutely avoid reading. It’s simply too personal, hits too close to home and actually makes you reflect. This is why I avoid these. That was amazing. I wasn’t going to sit here and read the whole thing, but here I am. Awesome work.
@Bobbyhiddn3 роки тому
The last scene would break me too. "I'm paying for something I deeply desire. This woman is here to fulfill the role I have asked her to play, and she is doing it perfectly. Yet all of this is a lie of my own creation. The best she can do is to continue in the act, yet with every word she says, she drives me further into despair, as I believe her performance." "What do you need to feel good?" I need what you are pretending to be. The kiss was dreadfully, but beautifully painful. Of course we desire that physical intimacy, but the pain of knowing it means absolutely nothing once she leaves is abysmal. "At least you have a sense of humor." "You can't lose that, can you?" Pretend that you love me, until I forget we're pretending. That realization of waking back up is the pain.
@pdfpockethole3 роки тому
This review is everything I wish I could have said. Thank you.
@motttta3 роки тому
Beautifully put
@heyst133 роки тому
God this is a great commentary
@tommyaguirre34793 роки тому
Micah your analisis on the kiss at the end was so fucking ACCURATE. Great comment man holy crap!
@darklordsteph3 роки тому
Thank you Micah, everytime i read your comment i cry ugly tears because i realize how lonely we all truly are
@GomGommery2 роки тому
God I'm glad I dug more into your channel, first it was "Adventure awaits, hazaa!" and now I'm helplessly binging everything that has your name on it, especially your films. I've never met a character quite like you Joel, truly inspirational. Much love.
@granvillesharpe94952 роки тому
This is where I'm at, too.
@omgitsjay32512 роки тому
Same
@dhiambi6415Рік тому
same here, an emotional rollercoaster
@bronsondiamond2025Рік тому
Same. I watch more Joel than Cherdley's and friends now. Funny how characters on UKposts can hit an audience so well through cringe relatability alone xD
@humanperson94438 місяців тому
That’s how the addiction begins
@user-yr8ge3fz8o3 роки тому
The line between media and life is so blurred here. This is really boundary-pushing in that regard. A lot of people say that modern technology does more to isolate people than connect them, and sometimes that's true. But you've used it to open a window into your life and your feelings and thousands people of people found their reflection in that window. Because like, it's not the cleaned-up and larger-than-life thing we're used to with most movies, just real and true. Lol, there's a cheesy analogy. Art is like a window, if it's not too clean it's also a mirror!
@Joel-Haver3 роки тому
I love that analogy, dirty art is my favorite art! Thanks so much for checking out the film, I really do think the internet has such profound potential for extremely personal and real stuff that you can't be made anywhere else. In many ways it has realized that potential, but not pushed it. I hope a film like this can provide a tiny push and encourage others to push as well. Wish you the best
@JackOLanternBob3 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver I definitely feel inspired by this to try to make some something with some of the same style.
@TheFos882 роки тому
@@MrVal024 giggity
@Up2Eight2 роки тому
Just wanted to briefly comment since I actually don't see many comments directly referencing it, but wow the moment around 52:00 into the song and then behind the scenes was so well done. Everything up to that point was so straightforward and filmed a certain way it was jarring in such a good way to suddenly have the confessional and emotional singing break through the wall and feel like it paused time. Just everything about those few minutes I love rewatching so much.
@jeko722 роки тому
That stuck with me as well it was strange because it some how captures the same effect that happens to me when I turn the lights on or off while tripping on lsd
@tsawy6Рік тому
For me it was the moment the camera was picked up
@waterbottlettvРік тому
@@tsawy6 me too, like he totally could have just had the camera slowly pan upwards to give a similar effect, but something about how it was done is so jarring
@boris552Рік тому
Is that a real song or was it made for this movie? I couldn't find it from the lyrics on Google. I felt like it was a Leonard Cohen song or something.
@GregorTheScot2 роки тому
Came back to watch this one after drowning in potential. honestly kicking myself for skipping these for so long because in my mind I subbed to Joel for funny wee short films to watch as I ate lunch and I didn't want to commit to a feature length version of that. But these are something else entirely, honestly just incredible, just like the rawest films I've seen and so fucking refreshing. Joel keep killing it with these man, I swear I'm going to make each new one you put out an event going forward. Maybe rope some of my film school buds into watching it with me. Just amazing.
@The_Irish_Rover3 роки тому
I like this. I feel lonely and I’m scared that everyone I love will die one day. I have autism and I don’t how to talk to people. I’m scared. I cried watching this. I’m going to miss my parents when they pass. You made a good film.
@Joel-Haver3 роки тому
Thank you so much for watching. Life can be scary and lonely and unpredictable and I really don’t have an answer beyond that it is for everyone. Take comfort in knowing you’re not alone in your uncertainty and don’t be afraid to lean on others when you can and let others lean on you. I wish you well
@The_Irish_Rover3 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver thank you.
@knoelle13573 роки тому
I’m scared, too. I think I understand how you feel. My mom is my best friend and I have always been so scared of losing her, as I feel she is the only person who loves me unconditionally. I feel like I have nobody else. This past October my ex boyfriend died of an overdose, we were each other’s first loves, and we had stayed friends for 17 years, then reconnected in 2018 and started dating again, up until lockdown. I stopped talking to him three months before he died and I regret it horribly. This film felt really cathartic. You’re not alone, if you ever need to talk to someone, let me know.
@aichatastic083 роки тому
you won’t be alone, i promise you. you’re amazing ! ❤️
@andysux13 роки тому
Sending good vibes your way ~~~~~~ ヾ(・ω・*)ノ
@The_Power3 роки тому
Dude, you took your heart cut it open and wrapped it around this whole thing. This whole thing bleeds emotion, you poured yourself into this and I can't hold more respect for you.
@sixstringedthing2 роки тому
"you took your heart cut it open and wrapped it around this whole thing." Now that is amazing. Well said.
@roramdin2 роки тому
that scene around 26 minutes just made me feel a lot of emotions. this is such a special film.
@callmeqt12694 місяці тому
Hey, Joel. I’m commenting because your film did a lot for me, and I want to offer something in return. I commented earlier today, but I have something to add (and I don’t think you’d see it in a reply). Your work so moved me that I wrote this poem in response: - I sleep with apparitions While a torrent brews above me. Please, Lie under the cover That you love me. - Also, if you haven’t already, I have to encourage you to listen through Chopin’s Nocturnes (especially op 48 no 1 and op posth no 20, but really all of them). I feel like they tell complementary stories to this one, and I believe 2019-2020 Joel might have needed them. With much love, Sam.
@Joel-Haver4 місяці тому
Thanks for the lovely comment. Lovely poetry, it’s an honor my film could inspire that out of you. I love Chopin and definitely owe myself more time listening to classical music, just listened to Op 48 No 1 and it was lovely. I’ll take a deeper dive into the Nocturnes. Thanks so much!
@callmeqt12694 місяці тому
@@Joel-Haver Thank you - can’t wait for the features to come!
@justingomez96003 роки тому
“Have you... ever been dreadfully lonely?” This is art. You’re going to go far man. Your talent is unprecedented and is going to set the bar for not just UKposts but for indie filmmaking in general. I only recently discovered this channel and have loved every bit of it. From the comedic skits that have that Cherdley’s kinda feel with all of the awkwardness of real life scenarios but without the extra ham, to the more bizarre Adult Swim/ Tim&Eric type skits and animations, to this film right here that would no doubt win awards at indie-film festivals but without the pretentiousness. You execute perfectly your unique style of blending quality filmmaking with truly relatable scenarios. What blurs the lines of what’s real, improved, or scripted, is that you always manage to capture how people really interact and that raw emotion behind it. This film here proves your genius and is cathartic to anyone who’s ever felt that loneliness. Especially to those of us known as the, “funny guy” of the group where we hide what we’re really feeling behind smiles and deflect with humor. And like a true creative, you turned that visceral feeling into a work of art that captures the reality of it. You’re a master at your craft, like some sort of wizard-chef who can make his work both raw and well-done. Raw emotion and comedy that lets us, the viewer, see a bit of ourselves in that we can laugh and/or empathize with from the mundane social faux pas we commit to the more absurd. And it’s so well executed that it wraps everything together professionally while still magically maintaining that indie charm. Kudos to you Joel Haver! You are excellent at creating realist/surrealist work and blending the two so well without it feeling off-beat. Creating work that you enjoy making will take you far and we all look forward to watching your talent develop even more and unfold!
@Joel-Haver3 роки тому
Thank you for the lovely comment and thanks for giving the film and the rest of the channel your time. I'd love to be somebody that can raise the bar on UKposts, not in a competitive way, but in a way that shows people the beautiful potential of UKposts to be more personal and more direct than anything else. Audiences already know the people they watch on UKposts unlike they ever knew any filmmakers prior. To be able to let your audience know, from somebody they feel like they know personally, that they're not alone in their struggles and loneliness is an amazing power to have. Gone are the days of buying a ticket to watch a film from some studio by some filmmaker who'll never know you did, the fact that you commented and I saw it and was able to respond is amazing in and of itself. It's an honor to be compared to both a wizard and a chef, two things I respect immensely. Much more culinary magic to come! I wish you the best, happy new year
@Nick19219453 роки тому
Gonzo dating imo
@yagzozandibek51963 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver hey man , you at least showed one person that internety nature of youtube leads to new, exciting and deeply personal artstyles. i have never felt catharsis like this before. not crying my eyes out or laughing my ass off, but this strange feeling that you may share your exact feelings with a stranger. i love you
@rabsrabble54153 роки тому
This comment is 100% spot on and Joel’s response about filmmaking in the Internet age is too.
@whatifgaming16613 роки тому
On a simple note its refreshing to see a film that just shows how normal people talk and go on dates irl. I never know what to say, what ive seen in typical movies and shows isnt real and this feels like a real standard I can think about
@AnonYmous-hz1je3 роки тому
Isn’t the point of it that it still feels scripted (and we’re aware of it)? It plays off of your willingness to “trust” for the better part, it’s “real” in your experience of it because of the suspension of disbelief that we have for media like this, but there’s the reassuring thought that it’s scripted. So you accept that this is how dates are, and that these women love him, and etc, and in the “prologue” we revisit all of this without the lens of fantasy. And tones shift, and conversations hold more empty space, and colors are muted. And at the end, when he asks her to do a scene, you can hear how her tone shifts. And it brings you *into* the fantasy in this more real context and it’s crushing to *feel* how different it is. To think that this is an attempt to show what “real love” is like doesn’t make any sense to me. Its very focus is on questioning _what_ that could even look like?
@callmeqt12694 місяці тому
I’m probably an artistic person before I’m anything else, but the one genre of art that never quite did it for me was movies. In this hour and a half, you permanently changed that. I hope you’re well, Joel.
@cyberhampter7747Рік тому
Just a friendly reminder that hydrating is important.
@uhh_pРік тому
Thanks bae
@unfortunatelyharryРік тому
oh thank god. i haven't drank water in like 2 weeks thanks for reminding me
@josephferris27373 роки тому
This movie felt so real that I found myself questioning multiple times whether or not a scene was real or scripted. The scenes with your dad put a knot in my throat and all the awkward and silent scenes made me feel anxious. The final scene literally brought me to tears. There is so much heart and soul in this movie and it was an amazing contrast to your silly short skits.
@almostshay3 роки тому
"He assumed this was more than it was" like my god. This movie is like a real life version of Perfect Blue. Halfway through the movie my perception of the premise was completely shattered. It feels like I was right there with you having no clue what was real and what wasnt. UKposts autoplayed this while I was eating a sandwich and I stayed up just to watch the whole thing. How did I get here from a rat with a gun
@khammkeo44483 роки тому
A rat with a gun 😭😭
@senza45913 роки тому
This really is like a less outwardly sinister Perfect Blue huh
@patricknorris93343 роки тому
I need to know what video you started with to get here lol
@almostshay3 роки тому
@@patricknorris9334 they're 2 of Joel Haver's most recent video. The RPG ones. They should be easy to find if you just go through his most recent uploads.
@illestvillain19713 роки тому
Perfectly blue is a masterpiece, and I think this is too. :0
@Andi_Frost_XPR0PR18Рік тому
Makes me wonder how much of this was just footage taken from Joel's real life. It blends fiction and reality so seamlessly.
@garfiiendРік тому
hey joel. i found this film shortly after its release a couple years ago i think. i honestly can’t remember. it was so beautiful. the parts with your father were so brave and vulnerable. they made me so sad but so grateful as i still had my father at the time. my father passed last night. i am so unbelievably torn. i related so much to you and the way you describe your dad, goofy, all over the place, and the funniest person i ever knew. im so fucking sad. im so lost. i am so hurt. thank you for making this joel.
@Joel-HaverРік тому
I’m so sorry to hear about your loss Christopher. It’s so fresh it’s hard to say anything that helps, just feel everything you need to feel, as long as you are able and willing to feel. Grief is a lifelong process, in time it gets easier in ways, never gets easy but gets easier. I wish you the best through this hard time. Much love to you and your family❤️
@garfiiendРік тому
@@Joel-Haver thank you so much. i love your content and i want you to know that these videos you create make people like me laugh in even the worse times. what you do here is so valuable.
@NMLSSneon3 роки тому
Brother, this made me feel things.
@Joel-Haver3 роки тому
@IllIlllI3 роки тому
Thought you died in transformers7? Good to have you back, captain!
@flatearth63653 роки тому
@@IllIlllI lmao
@Chloe_is_on_youtube_wtf3 роки тому
By not succumbing to the Hollywood studio system, or any traditional film making system, Joel Haver has given himself the freedom to make every single film of his feel personal and authentic. His acting is so real because he is directing himself and because he often records actual interactions and/or improvisation. His stories are so real because he has complete creative control, aside from the help of a few very trusted friends. In real life he is one of the most kind and relatable people I know and his films reflect that. When he describes this film as a catharsis he is not kidding. All of his films are deeply personal and unique and beautiful, and always leave me in awe at the end thinking, “how is someone able to make films that speak to me so much?” And then I remember that I am human and he is human, and that unfiltered, uncontrolled art is human art. That “normal” films are alien by comparison. That if all films were made closer to the way Joel’s are made, we might all realize that we feel the same things more than we thought. This film is his best film yet and that’s saying a lot because his other films are so important too. Please watch the entire thing, as it goes through a lot of different emotions and will possibly surprise you. I love this movie and am grateful to know Joel. Thank you.
@Joel-Haver3 роки тому
Chloe! Thanks for the very flattering write-up! I'm really glad the film was able to resonate so deeply with you. Thank you for watching it. Grateful to know you as well
@parlay-music3 роки тому
“Unfiltered, uncontrolled art is human art. Normal films are alien by comparison” I like that a lot! This film’s candour is so refreshing and I admire Joel for having the courage to put something so personal like this out. So glad UKposts exists so indie films like this can be discovered.
@DoisKohРік тому
This is the most brilliant final frame I've seen in a movie. That last scene was so well done that I forgot this was a movie, and then the rug got pulled out from under me... again.
@TheWallProductions172 роки тому
Hey Joel, just wanted to tell you that the scenes with your father before his passing really touched me. I’m about your age and lost my father unexpectedly in October. Those little moments joking around with him and just enjoying each other’s stupid humor are part of what I miss most. Hope you and your family are coping as best you can, time heals all! Keep up the great work
@NickNooblesРік тому
I'm really sorry for your loss. I hope you're doing ok.
@bigluc24913 роки тому
if this was scripted, HOLY SHIT. if this was improvised, HOLY SHIT. i was expecting a punchline but all i got was a gut punch. you're easily one of my favorite artists/creators here and elsewhere, joel.
@kristi75393 роки тому
Describes my thoughts exactly
@misterkid3 роки тому
I don't believe it's scripted, but the scenes are set up.
@Lisferator2 роки тому
I don't believe is even acted..
@konnorkuznetsov10352 роки тому
My guess is they discussed a rough idea for some of the dating scenes, and of course a flawless setup for the cinematics, but still incredible. I think it was as genuine as it could possibly be while still being consistent. Truly art, the most raw expression of human emotion I've seen in any film since Doctor Zhivago.
@sixstringedthing2 роки тому
Part of the genius of this is that he showed you his process within the film itself, and all the performances still feel absolutely natural. Amazing performances from all involved.
@snicanremember3 роки тому
Was watching “when someone shows you a video on their phone” and then it auto played into this, and I watched the entire thing on my phone. It’s incredible
@frenchtoast23193 роки тому
And he shows the girl a video on his phone.
@rohanimations2 роки тому
Halfway through my rewatch and I noticed that the warm scenes of relationships have blue as the prominent color while the cold scenes of loneliness mainly have colors like orange. Not really sure if this was intentional or not (because it’s not super consistent) but swapping warm and cool colors creates a really neat effect.
@watersilk4 місяці тому
a special film that they should add to that archive in space of what humans made
@turf53603 роки тому
This guy is sooo fucking underrated...
@thecompanioncube42113 роки тому
I love he's booming now. He gained like 250k subs in the span of 15-20 days
@inujoshua13593 роки тому
@@thecompanioncube4211 I still think he's underrated even with that amount of subs 😂
@DavidJaboulian3 роки тому
Frankly, I don't really leave comments anywhere. That said, I don't really find myself feeling real emotional connections to films. But, holy fuck. This deserves more attention, more analysis, more support, more views, more everything because I legitimately cried my eyes out. Joel, you really have made one of the most hauntingly relatable pieces of media. Thank you.
@kookookapleksky24103 місяці тому
This is three years old and I just found it. It came to me during a really hard part of my life (now) and I felt a connection to this film deeply. I suffer with feelings of loneliness. I just got broken up with and ghosted by a long distance partner due to mental health/depression and the world has never felt so vast or lonely. I’m not sure I could ever truly love someone again, but I still want to be held, or hugged. The vulnerability in this film is incredible, and I cried at the end, safe to say. I gotta spend more time with my dad. Thanks Joel ❤️🫂
@mackmcd2 роки тому
Holy shit, Joel. I haven't even finished this yet. But something just happened to me that's never happened to me. The instant you said, "thank you for the shirts, I have them all now." I felt a lightning bolt of sadness hit me and I started crying. From fine, to pausing the movie to cry with one line. Thank you so much for making and sharing this. I don't know what this means - what I just felt - but I'm sure it's important. I'm gonna go call my Dad.
@nostalgia_junkieМісяць тому
i have typed and retyped this over and over because of how many words and ideas have bubbled up from me. cliche saying but very thought provoking, and i see so much of myself it hurts a little. hyperrealism, the obsessive pang for closeness, the guilty pleasure of indulging the lie, the quantum superposition of the legitimacy of that kiss, and unworthiness. the unworthiness is not said or even eluded to, but there was this vibe of like, "i hate myself. i am so terrible the only way i can get someone in my life is to pay them to play a role." could be me reading into it, aforementioned holding a mirror up to the viewer. bravo, really hope things are better for you now. ❤
@TexasRedOutlaw3 роки тому
Hey Joel, this film is ehhh OK but it could use some work, there's two things in particular you messed up on. 1. I can't watch it again for the first time 2. I can't remember it after I'm dead If you could fix that in your next film that would be great thanks in advance
@JimsyFlimsy3 роки тому
Can't forget not being able to enjoy any other movies anymore. Ruined that for me, unfortunately.
@duckmintNZ3 роки тому
I was about to get violent, instead I did a big "Awww"
@twintin_3463 роки тому
you got me in the first half not gonna lie
@Nunya1113 роки тому
Thanks for making me smile after watching this whole thing :)
@pipersimpson6843 роки тому
Hm yeah thats true there was also the tiny nitpick of nothing else on youtube comparing to this ever again, it was just a bit too beautiful. Kinda killed it.
@kalgrandy21013 роки тому
Thank you Joel. “Some people can read War and Peace, and come away thinking it’s a simple adventure story. Others can read the ingredients on a chewing gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe.” -Lex Luthor The human condition is real. Hope you’re doing ok Joel.
@cdogthehedgehog69233 роки тому
Why isnt that quote quoted more often?
@franklinwilliams80483 роки тому
"Why isn't that quote quoted more often?" -@@cdogthehedgehog6923
@cdogthehedgehog69233 роки тому
@@franklinwilliams8048 im honored.
@franklinwilliams80483 роки тому
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 #PayItForward
@theonygard56943 роки тому
@@franklinwilliams8048 "#payitfotward"- Franklin Williams
@giraffewithabowlerhat18833 місяці тому
It hit me so hard when you cut to the open casket. Like, "No! He was alive just a second ago!" Thank you for this extremely cathartic film, Joel. I'm glad you're still enjoying making movies/art/things :)
@aliadelborgo18052 роки тому
Joel, this is incredible. Sincerely incredible. Honestly the best watching experience I’ve had in a long time. I’m a visual artist, and have always been enamored by work that portrayed this unique intimacy that I find difficult to portray in other mediums like film, since I’m always acutely aware of the fact that its scripted. But this, wow. Captured vulnerability, intimacy, pain, fear, loss, etc etc masterfully. I honestly cried a ton. You are truly a rare talent, and although I don’t know you beyond watching your content for quite a while, I am truly proud of you for all your work. Thank you for making this, and making it accessible online
@Joel-Haver2 роки тому
Thanks for the lovely words and thanks for taking the time to watch, Alia. Pushing and pulling the medium into new places is what makes it so exciting for me. I’m happy it resonated with you as well. Much love❤️
@aliadelborgo18052 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver much love to you as well
@Juan-zi3qs3 роки тому
It’s so slightly awkward but not enough to make you feel cringe almost like it hits somewhere else
@stitch37623 роки тому
to me that awkwardness betrays some sense authenticity which is what makes it no so cringe.
@JumpydeerbobHD3 роки тому
I don't think it's even awkward, it's just very rare to see a movie with real humans. It's a movie about people not a script.
@jagobouffler62063 роки тому
it's not movie awkward, it's real awkward that you can actually feel, the good awkward
@EPMTUNES3 роки тому
It’s very realistic but reality shows have ruined that term
@Kgknipp3 роки тому
I thought this too. I think it's because he eventually gets to where the hesitation and awkwardness are going.
@evancunningham56533 роки тому
I love the way this unfurled throughout, with me questioning if this was real or a movie at the beginning, then it seems to pull back the curtains and be behind the scenes and shows these deeply emotional personal moments, and puts me in the same position again of wondering if this is even real. It made me cry anyway. Then the creepy undertones with the editing behind the scenes and the cloying bringing the actresses back but keeping things in shot which make it seem like this time it really is unscripted because you can see the facade with the lighting props. The musical bit in the middle was so unexpected too, felt almost like a palette cleanser from the line blurring real / film scenes at the beginning. It felt so human though, all of it, props to you and the girls in this, masterfully crafted piece of art.
@Joel-Haver3 роки тому
I’m really glad so much of the film connected for you. Thanks for taking the time to check it out
@TheFos882 роки тому
That musical scene had me FLOORED with an overwhelming dark almost angry sadness that oozed from the videography and music. Just... Absolutely intense and out of nowhere. Also I don't know why but it made me think of Pink Floyd.
@melissadistante7871Рік тому
Found myself wishing the fake stuff was real, and the real stuff was fake. Thank you for sharing this! 💖
@Tomato-Icecream3 місяці тому
i dont really know what to even comment, but this really made me feel a lot of things, and this felt extremely real and honest. amazing work Joel
@lunarfilth3 роки тому
The way you genuinely blur the lines of what’s acting and what’s real had me so...confused? I wanted to figure it out, but I got to a point about 30 minutes after watching the whole thing, when I was trying to explain to someone why this affected me, where I realized that it didn’t really matter what was real or not because what was depicted was true To be honest I couldn’t help but cry during and afterwards I don’t know what else to say but I hope you continue to make films. I have not been moved by something in a very long time the way this did and I will carry this piece of art with me now in my heart
@Christian-bo2gy3 роки тому
That's such a great way to put it... Doesn't matter what was real, because it was true. Truth and Reality really aren't the same things after all... Thanks for leaving this comment. It helped me understand my feelings a bit better.
@Joel-Haver3 роки тому
Really beautifully put. All of my favorite movies are the ones that communicate something so true that I can't help but cry and it's amazing that you feel that way about mine. Thanks for giving the film your time, I'm glad it now has a cozy place in your heart. Wish you the best
@MrLyramion3 роки тому
Just like Wrestling.
@user-no2vw8tm2s3 роки тому
That gems like this just linger on UKposts, waiting to be discovered by people who choose to stay in bed and watch UKposts videos all day because they struggle to find a purpose in life is almost as ironic as it is poetic. This is an amazing piece of art, Joel. I hope you are doing better now. I hope everyone who watched this is doing better now.
@illestvillain19713 роки тому
I am in bed watching this and I felt like you just read my mind and used it to mirror me. :( Life is shit, and unpredictable. By staying in bed it's still shit -- but it is predictable
@NIL0S3 роки тому
It's not that shit. But I'm in bed right with you trying to forget it a little.
@TheMPBailey3 роки тому
I read your whole review, but sincerely thought you said "germs" instead of "gems". Still made sense. Because germs find people and people find gems. Joel just seems to be both.
@allyson--3 роки тому
Not to be greedy but if anyone wants to share other gems they've found through UKposts, I'm all ears
@TheFos882 роки тому
How dare you call me out
@anotherdanegan2 роки тому
This is one of the most beautiful and moving films I have ever seen. It may even be better than Forrest Gump. And that's saying something.
@Cypriotpride9304 місяці тому
It’s been a long time since I’ve had a film made me emote so many different feelings. From the cinematography, locations, acting, and sincere authenticity. This is simply something different and I applaud you. Please keep doing whatever you’re doing and we are all waiting for more of you. I know there’s a lot of truth in this film, it feels too real to be faked. Thank you for sharing this 🙏
@monauralsnail06693 роки тому
Fuck man... I’m kinda just speechless after watching this. I feel dirty or guilty watching this, like I’m privy to conversations and events that I shouldn’t be, an intruder in truly personal moments. That being said I couldn’t stop watching. This is honestly one of the best movies I’ve watched in such a long time, mainly because of how small and personal it is. Every thing else is just too big to care about, the stakes are always so high that it’s impossible to form any kind of attachment too. But with how relatable the struggle to open up and connect with someone is, how health issues make you so vulnerable, and how painful losing a parent is and it changing how you see everything, this movie is the exact opposite. You can actually connect to your struggle, not only by seeing my own personal struggles reflected, but by seeing you as an independent entity actually struggling. it’s impossible to not feel every moment of the film. Thanks for sharing this
@Joel-Haver3 роки тому
Thank you for the lovely words. It’s been amazing seeing so many people connect so deeply with this film. I agree that most of the movies sold to us are either too broad or too big to be relatable. I’m happy I could provide something small and personal as a change of pace. Thanks for watching, hope you have a nice weekend.
@Kitsuyomi3 роки тому
As someone's who's terrified of dates because of the idea of fucking up, the awkwardness in this movie is so human that it actually shows me how natural things can be when you just go out there and be yourself Edit: After watching the entire movie, nothing has resonated through me so much before... I could empathize with the loneliness and there was so much said without having to be said Thanks for this Joel, I know it must have been rough. It's difficult to find an answer for these things...
@yeboi54783 роки тому
This comment is reddit
@eustoliafukuyo64813 роки тому
@@yeboi5478 No this is patrick
@gforcegaming5903Рік тому
I'm not an emotional person, but this is the first time I've cried while watching a film in many years. I think the fear of being alone is such a universal thing that, even of you aren't alone, it still feels like it's just moments away from happening.
@enterthyname_23764 місяці тому
I just finished watching this. My soul was touched, my heart was trashed, and I am simply stunned. A lot could be said about the authenticity and artistry overflowing this film, but all I'm going to say is, I love you. Thank you for sharing your creations. I dearly hope you are able to feel proud of them.
@ForlornFoundry3 роки тому
I aspire to be able to have the courage to show so rawly such deep personal struggles for the public to see. This felt as if I was voyeuristically watching your life while also empathetically relating to the very same struggles I've dealt with in my life. You're a man of talent Joel. I hope you never stop creating ♥️
@ForlornFoundry3 роки тому
What I took away from this film was also the power to be able to vulnerable in your own life. To be able to fully feel your grief and to not hide your shame. To expose myself to those I trust just as you exposed yourself to us and to see that, hey the world isn't as cold and closed off as you think. Anyways much love to you man
@LowdownBoy3 роки тому
I feel you. Take care. Your comment has good points as well as being congruent to my own present.
@jovalleau3 роки тому
I feel like this is the type of movie Abed from Community would have made after getting his film degree.
@TrevorAllenVideoWalkthroughs3 роки тому
Meta abed was the best
@JeanGenie923 роки тому
so spot on
@vinstantrice3 роки тому
literally
@PedrofiliacРік тому
the line that this film walks between documentary and cinema is like nothing i've ever seen before
@anotherjacob3 місяці тому
i am in love with the reality that this shows. it doesn't feel like a film, it feels like reality, because for so many people (myself included) this is reality. I knew this film existed and i've been watching joel make amazing stuff for years, but for some reason an hour and a half felt scary to me. I wasn't sure i wanted to invest so much time into something i didn't know much about. i'm 21 now, and have only ever dated one person, for literally two months, and i was so scared to put myself out there again because of how that relationship ended. i cannot describe with words how this impacted me, it's kinda cringe but i literally feel like a new person. i don't know when i'll find the right person for me to spend the rest of my life with, but at the very least, i want to try. i know it's scary and that really won't change, but right now, i can try. thank you joel for making such amazing short and feature length films, i cant wait to see where this new chapter takes you!
@depressedcowboy76873 роки тому
This film hit hard, getting into your 20s and not having meaningful connections outside your close family members is hard Thanks Joel for making this.
@mrSam3ooo2 роки тому
I thought i was the only one. Feels good to know there are others with the same struggles
@smh12452 роки тому
Same here buddy. I almost feel guilty to feel lonely or sad because I have a loving and supporting family which I'm grateful for everyday and I'm aware how big of a blessing this is, but I can't share everything with them, I can't pour my heart out in front of them, you know, they have their own problems. Being in your twenties, going to college and heaving no real relationships outside your family can be challenging sometimes.
@turbotatas66712 роки тому
Try being 30 and wasting your 20s smoking weed just isolating yourself and only realizing recently how much you fucked up
@mjr_schneider2 роки тому
Never knew this was such a common experience for people our age. I always assumed I was an outlier. What happened to our generation that made us like this? What went wrong?
@darkslayer11612 роки тому
Not having any meaningful connections at is hard.
@someoneelse73063 роки тому
I felt such a connection with the tone of the film that I almost felt like I was a character while watching it. The scenes were so realistic that I almost thought some of them were real reactions that actors were responding to unaware of the context. My natural inclination was to shy away from the specific feelings this evokes, recognizing them is terrifying. Revelatory job, thank you for this.
@Joel-Haver3 роки тому
I love what you said about your inclination to shy away from the feelings it evokes. Recognizing them can be terrifying, denial can be a cozy prison indeed. I hope by sharing them others can feel a little less alone and maybe a little less inclined to shy away. Thank you for watching
@kayligoРік тому
I hope the kiss was a real one...I’m gonna tell myself it was because that’s what I want to believe.
@StopitplsРік тому
Loneliness and the need to be loved. This is such a tragic story of those things, and I relate to it too hard. It’s real, and unfiltered, this is how people talk and flirt and connect. It’s so hard to watch at times because I know it’s how I act, it’s so shameful but real, and totally endearing. Despite Joel playing himself, I can’t tell if this is a character or the real man, I’m guessing Joel of this movie is both. I can’t tell if Pretend that you Love me is a tragedy or a comedy (in the strict Greek theatre way of meaning it has a good ending), the ending itself shows Joel breaking down and opening up to a woman he barely knows. And even though there’s no relationship there, how can she make Joel feel better about himself? Pretend that you Love me.
@FirePlaceEntertainment2 роки тому
Finally got some time to sit down and watch this. Damn dude. What a masterpiece. Laughed out loud, cringed, and cried on my pillow. I love you bro. Barely know ya but it's true.
@Joel-Haver2 роки тому
So glad you got around to checking it out, thanks for watching
@harrynewton3 роки тому
That was something. I'm no film expert but it seemed very original and genuine. If anything it reminded me of Nathan Fielders "Finding Frances" where the lines between script and reality become blurred and the facade of the socially awkward comedian is taken beyond a joke. It was really touching and left me wondering how much of it is real...
@Joel-Haver3 роки тому
Thank you so much for checking it out! I definitely love Nath Fielder and the Finding Frances comparison is very flattering. That episode definitely left a big mark on me. Much love
@davisnafshun47589 місяців тому
“you know that.. i said that i was single.. because of the movie.” ouch my man. that whole conversation was rough love the concept, especially when he makes it seem that he’s scheduling acting “dates” just for the companionship. it seems like joel as an actor has at least some natural charisma so i don’t think he’ll be out for love for long! proud of myself for guessing what the setting shift would be before it happened. the last girl is an angel. she was so compassionate, nice, and caring. all the women here should be praised. this is like what if sherman’s march (1985) was not self-indulgent and actually good. really enjoyed what joel did, regardless of what actually was composed or not, it works. and it works well. maybe one of the best films of the decade.
@PeyTheWriterРік тому
wow, what an interesting movie. Need some time to think about it. The other day one of my good friends and I were talking about how your channel feels like a constant pursuit of art. I can confidently say no one has ever made something that feels quite like this. I've been following your channel for awhile and started watching this awhile back in the middle of the pandemic but I'm glad I took the time to watch through this entire movie. Truly a unique piece of art that deserves to be consumed and talked about. We met a week or two back briefly, and I'm considering trying to make a video essay about this movie. Once the idea is actually more developed/put together I'd love to potentially talk to you about this film. Independent of whether or not you're interested I want you to know I really was blown away
@Joel-HaverРік тому
Hey Pey, I remember you! Thank you for the lovely comment. I’m really happy you gave the film a watch and that it resonated with you. Reach out to me via email about the video essay! I’ll try my best to get back in a timely manner. I wish you the best❤️
@bettyoffdead3 роки тому
I feel like I just got a secret glimpse into someone's life and saw things they never meant for anyone to see. I feel like I intruded and it's such an intense and visceral feeling... I'm at once uncomfortable and fascinated in ways I can't describe. I've never had a film do this to me, especially not to this extreme. Joel, you are a genius and I honestly aspire to have the kind of creativity, insight, and emotional capacity that you do
@breteasley35813 роки тому
Wow....yes
@reptarien3 роки тому
said it all in one bro
@sharkbait35463 роки тому
I've been thinking about this a lot since I finished it a couple days ago and I'm realizing how genius the parallels between his loneliness and back pain are. He describes it to the doctor as a dull ache all over that get's worse at night when he lies down. Compare this to the ache of loneliness that seizes you when you lay down to sleep at night when the distractions of the day aren't present anymore. This makes the final scene with the back massage that much better. The two pains converge and are treated at once: the physical relief that the massage brings, as well as the mental relief of human connection and attention. It's overwhelming and he breaks down. As for if the final scene is real, I'm gonna say no. The only time we're in "reality" is the final frame. Just as the filmmaker in the movie watches the still frame of his kisses with the actors, the final shot is Joel himself watching the final frame of his movie, the one we just watched. It's suggesting that he could be falling into the same trap as the character he plays, and gaining a comfort from the fake scenes he himself put together. The ambiguous blur between reality and film is so good. But that's just a theory, a FiLmTheORy Edit: I forgot to thank you for making this. Anything that gives me a good cry and makes me think deserves a thanks
@brendielahooha3 роки тому
You make videos, @sharkbait ?
@artyCynabal2 роки тому
About the ending, I think you nailed it. It didn't sink in with me at first, but that still let us all know that it wasn't real.
@sixstringedthing2 роки тому
Bravo, and thank you.
@deep_cuts20192 роки тому
Great analysis
@LexisMichelleРік тому
i dont know how i got to this video, i dont remember clicking on it but when i turned on my computer this morning it was there im so glad i decided to see what i mustve accidentally clicked on last night and watch it through because this is a masterpiece, great job man
@jasminemarin742Рік тому
It’s so hard to tell if this a movie or a documentary. I think what I love most about your work is that blur. It’s so honest. Thank you
@bamboeng20143 роки тому
Dude, your interactions in this movie is a masterclass in how REAL humans talk, big props
@Ujulahipobaca2 роки тому
It was improvised man.
@thomasray3 роки тому
I don't know why, but the line "I'm literally right here" hit me so hard
@Ivyticrea3 роки тому
Snap back to reality
@thomasray3 роки тому
@@Ivyticrea ?
@ramblincapuchin90753 роки тому
Oop there goes gravity
@Lucas_Simoni2 роки тому
I know that feeling. He didn't just want someone to talk to, it was not like she wasn't there, but... He didn't know if she felt the same way about him. He wants... his song says it all. He wants a sort of girlfriend. And I genuinely believe he had the idea of dating them by pretending to create a movie. Which he actually ended up doing after all. It was so meta, it was so real. Even what was pretended, he actually wanted it to be real.
@Lucas_Simoni2 роки тому
Gosh. Even his dad's cancer was real. Even his back problems. The movie had the perfect timing. I wonder if he had the idea for the movie as a final masterpiece about his dad as well. It was so genuine.
@skrillex5939Рік тому
Just smoked a bowl and watched some of your skits and decided to check out your channel, I clicked on this knowing nothing and I am in shock. This is beautiful, it’s touching, it’s new yet old, it’s realistic, it’s real. I cried, I laughed, I really felt for your character. There were times where I couldn’t tell if this was scripted or not and I just, gosh this is amazing, thank you
@52HzWhaleMusic8 місяців тому
I watched this on the day of my grandfather's funeral and my girlfriend and I were having some troubles so I was at the loneliest I had felt in a long time. This was a bit too real, but it was beautiful. Thank you, Joel.
@Joel-Haver8 місяців тому
Sorry to hear about your grandfather. I wish you well through the grieving process. As far as the troubles go, be the best you can be, and in time things will clear up one way or another. I wish you the best, thanks for watching❤️
@Michniko3 роки тому
Joel. What a beautiful film. Mild Spoiler: There came a point when the musical section kicked in that I realized I had forgotten what I was watching was scripted. Everything about this movie is so real, it hits you hard in the parts of you that you hate to share with others. I have an extremely high respect for you and I look up to you as an aspiring filmmaker, this was wonderful to watch even if it made me relive some of the worst times of my life, but I think that was the point. Thank you, Joel.
@ChickentNug3 роки тому
I kind of think that part ended what was actually "scripted", and everything from then on was a representation of what was actually going on in his life. Maybe not, but thats what I got from it
@markshiman56903 роки тому
The music part is the only part that's scripted. The rest is improved. That's why it feels so real.
@piersnivans59833 роки тому
@@markshiman5690 you mean improvised?
@markshiman56903 роки тому
@@piersnivans5983 yes
@stefanakosmar3 роки тому
There is this thing about youtube films made by independent creators that can only be achieved here and can never be achieved in the “cinema”. And that is the amazing feature of blurring the lines between reality and fiction, I cannot for the life of me distinguish between the two in this particular film. For all I know everything here is true and this is a real autobiography. What an amazing thing you’ve created here. You have real talent, and forget about those people saying you should only make these, btw hilarious and genius, animations because you would just be limiting yourself into expressing only a fraction of the emotional capacity you have. Bravo Joel Havel.
@virtualmartini3 роки тому
This has far less to do with the medium of UKposts and far more to do with the filmmaker; Joel.
@Joel-Haver3 роки тому
Thank you so much for watching! Don't worry, I'll never limit myself based on what's popular. I'll always pursue the ideas I'm passionate about. It's very important to me that the channel paints a full portrait of who I am, comedy, drama, reality, fiction, warts and all. Wish you well
@stefanakosmar3 роки тому
@@Joel-Haver Glad to hear that, Cheers Joel!
@MetalFan9490Рік тому
Hey Joel, I don’t know if you’ll ever read this but this is an absolutely beautiful film. I’ve watched it quite a few times since it came out and I cry every time. I can really relate to the inner sadness that you portray and that sucks in a wonderful way. I hope you’re doing okay, and thank you for this film.
@Joel-HaverРік тому
Hey Brian, it really means so much to hear that you revisit this film. Thanks for giving it your time and then giving it your time again! Sadness certainly can suck. I’m both glad and sorry you can relate, we’re all in whatever this is together my friend. I wish you the best.
@MetalFan9490Рік тому
@@Joel-Haver you actually saw my comment! Tbh this has made my whole week, thank you again for this film I will be sure to watch it many more times!
@ellocodiabloРік тому
This was such an amazing movie that blurred the line between acting and reality that I was completely unable to differentiate what was and wasn't scripted while also depicting some deeply emotional concepts. Thank you for this beautiful movie!
@alexwilkins71103 роки тому
The last ten minutes of this film was agonizing. Everything was building up to a point that I felt like it was just screaming at me personally. I hate the fact that I think I can feel the exact emotions you're trying to convey. Some of those exact words ringing in my ear. I hate that I know that feeling. I hate knowing that you're trying to convey that exact headspace. Yet I can't help but love this film so, so much.
@purplefondue59913 роки тому
I was crying at the 30min mark
@sebastianroundtree15503 роки тому
The last ten minutes were so agonizing - I had to stand up and walk away from the screen. So true it hurts
@jonopens3 роки тому
I started writing essentially the same comment and, lo and behold, here it is. I wanted to scream, 'Say it, say what you feel, say how empty and grotesque and lonely you feel. But just say it!' Such a stunning film.
@LeroOfTheKodiak3 роки тому
I saw an animated skit randomly yesterday. Today I started exploring the rest of your channel. I found this. I think somehow, I needed to find this. I've been so completely, cripplingly alone since October of 2019, when my fiance left me one month from being married. Then Covid hit. I have felt so isolated, and for lack of a better way to put this, fucking done with life. I've been unable to cry for months. This opened the floodgates. Thank you. Thank you for this so very much.
@johncavanaugh39603 роки тому
Is that the figure 8 album cover?
@joshuapowell46094 місяці тому
Hey, I watched this 2 years ago, forgot to let ya know. Your film was fantastic and the full feature length movies rock, thanks for you doing you.
@JorbLovesGearРік тому
To be this vulnerable takes a lot courage, and for it to come together to feel so genuine is a credit to your voice as a writer. Thanks especially for sharing the moments with your father, in a way it feels generous that we get to see them. I feel like loneliness can be magnified on the internet and through a lot of your work, this film especially, you've given people a chance to find someone they can relate to. Thank you.