Just a quick correction, the 7800XT debuted at $499 not $599 and i misspoke about the 4080D when it was a 4090D. Regardless of the misspeaks the charts still show a huge value for this card! Sorry for the numbering mistakes!

One thing no one ever seems to mention is with Nivida's 4000 series you either have to buy a new PSU that comes with the 12VHPWR cable or use the 12VHPWR adaptor to power the card, if the card even comes with an included adaptor. Whereas the AMD cards still use 8 pin and don't catch fire unlike the 12VHPWR cable.

can we please have chapter breakouts for these videos so we can reference stats later?? especially for reviews, it really helps when we want to reference performance from you!

If you add a vertical line to show where the centre card lands next to the others, it's more clear than just having them next to each other on the same chart. Keep the centre card and it being a completely different colour, that's great and really visible :)

You mentioned something that sparked a thought in my head about the charting. Part of what I’d be looking for is a price to performance comparison at the point in time when you are doing the review. And something that could point me to the closest comparisons both in price and performance. As an example if the chart was a graph centered on the card being reviewed and the x-axis was performance and the y-axis was price then plot the closest cards around it? So top right is the faster but more expensive, and bottom left is slower but less expensive. And when you see stuff in the top left those are the cards that look way worse, and bottom right are the cards that are recommended instead of the card in the center? Also I am not sure if there could be a shorthand way to include benchmark date, benchmark build version, gpu driver version, and windows version, and card cost at the time of running. As those are metrics that might be interesting to see if all runs over time increase in speed and it could be one of those other items that is doing it. Even an identifier that counted up whenever one of those variables changed so you could see if any two runs were at the same time and the other environment variables were the same?

I like the layout you've gone with having the review card in the #5 spot of 9 cards. The only addition I would like is to have the MSRP next to the cards names. I'm hearing you reference the MSRP difference between the cards, but it would be nice to be able to see it also.

Hi Jay and team. The 7900 GRE Uses the bga and substrate of the Navi 32 die. (7700/7800). Hence the 90 degree offset silicon.

I love the older generations being on these charts cause it allows us with older cards to know much better where we stand and weather or not we should consider upgrading.

Finally ONE reviewer of them all that include 3090. You really are needed in Tech space Jay. Never change. Thanks!

Jay, the chart presentationw as really useful. Nice work!

The best visual thing that could be added to help the viewer is to have the one your talking about highlighted with the one you're comparing it to so we can follow along much easier as the video continues.

This was a great vid, I love the way the data is stacked up so you can see the performance and just the cost of similar cards. It would be cool if you included the lowest price available as of the time the video was posted maybe.

The chart format is good to show that specific cards relative performance, and where it lands. But what I like with "conventional" charts that have the same cards on every page is that you can use them for comparing the performance of the the other cards as well, and not just the one being reviewed. I use that quite often by looking up reviews of a newer card than the one im interested in. That way I can see how it performs against a card that wasn't available when it was reviewed first.

I grabbed a used 6800xt for $320 and scored a brand new EK block and backplate for $90. Has been a killer card for 1440p 144hz.

I really loved that you included less. So many have so much data on the page and then rush through it. This was nice to see where the "comparatives" are. Maybe if you categorized instead by all within a similar price range, that would have been even nicer. Like "all cards thing $100 of this card" type of deal. And the colors didn't bother me, but I'm not colorblind so I can't speak to that.

im also done with nvidia, i already hovered over the buy button on the 7800 so this is very very welcome to have the 7900gre

You saved me! I just ordered a 7800 XT and I didn't know about the existence of this 7900 GRE. Where I live, it's slightly more expensive and I can afford it. Thanks!

I'm happy that you sorted the graphs for 1440p resolution - I feel like far too many reviewers STILL put entirely too much focus on 1080p results, when it's been long enough and cards have gotten good enough that 1080p shouldn't be the benchmark any longer. It doesn't really tell you much of anything any more - and in my opinion hasn't for quite some time. Especially considering 4K resolution is something manufacturers are targeting more and more these days, really 1440p should be the new minimum standard that everyone should be working at to get as good as current 1080p performance/quality is now at.

I think that your chart idea that you're using is actually really great. It keeps things relevant. The one thing that I would change about it is that I would add pricing to each card to really show how good (or bad) the value of the card being reviewed is.

Like the graphs. Having the 4 above and 4 below makes it super easy to see how the performance lands. Nice job.

We live in a world where a $550 card could be considered very good value😢

one thing I think a lot of people may enjoy seeing, is talking the average scores of all the FPS tests and then dividing that by the MSRP giving us a FPS per $1. So you would see something like: 3080Ti 1080p (avg): 156 @ $2.50/FPS 7950XT 1080p (avg): 230 @ $0.75/FPS etc. It would really hammer home the actual "Value" of the card. PS - as a data guy, I would have so much fun with your charts! I love paying with them, it is my job too.

12:00 jay, ty for the new method of drawing a circle around the card and showing which cards land and where. it is MUCH better than the old way, im sorry because it seems like ALOT of extra work for you... asalwaystyforyourhardworkanddedication!!!

Something Ive seen on other videos that I like to see in statistical videos is highlighting the graphs that are being talked about in some form of manner, whether it be a red border line box or blurring out the other lines slightly to make it more clear whats being talked about, I like the idea of change of colors. Just something I noticed I like seeing and maybe might help out others as well. Kinda liking what im seeing from this Card myself but still think I might upgrade to 4080 Super from my 2080ti

1:28 7800xt launched at $499, not $599

And that just solidifies my GPU Choice... Was waiting to see if you would do a GRE review....Hellhound is 579 on Newegg right now. Sapphire Pulse is 549...Waiting for a call back from power color on if they have a Red Devil GRE coming out I personally like the color shift

I would love to have seen a link to Phil's video about DLSS 3 and FSR affect performance that you mentioned since I can't find it. But thank you for this video, loved it.

Like the "Middle" concept for the comparisons. Thought it worked very well.

Hey Jay, the hellhound isn't MSRP. It's $580. Also I like the style of charts you used in this video. 👍

The only reason people are jaded and don't care about cards is because the 2 big card companies making them have been pissing on their customers for so long.

I liked the way you did this, what would be cool, is to transition/flick out the stuff below, moving the in focus card to the top, expanding underneath with data from 8 x cards that ppl might currently be on, maybe significant entries from prior generations, to convey whether it might be the right time to upgrade.

Love to see a Video about solo Streaming PC and Duel PC streaming with some data on whats the best build for both

Can we just all agree that the best graphics card right now for a gamer for price is 6950xt.

1080p is irrelevant at the price - I'd recommend simply dropping that resolution.

Set location for card reviewed is great. Making it a different color or outlined would make it stand out. Knowing which cards fall in that range is quite informative for me. It tells what other options you have if you don't choose that card.

It's great that you're expanding your visuals. More ways of presenting data is better for everyone involved :) I like the static placement for the card under review, it helps massively. In the future, an option to consider may be a couple Static card placements, such as current gen competitor, previous gen card at this price point right below, all the time. Maybe silicon manufacturer color for the primary 3 cards, and lighter shades for others on the chart? and the graph bars can fill transparent to opaque. Also, I've worked making Excel plots excessively. I'd love to get my hands on a sample data set to present some options, then you can just copy your preference :)

Would love to have one or two of the lower end cards on there 2000, 3000, from Nvidia, and 5000 series from AMD. They don't need to be discussed at all but it gives those that are still holding out in that category to see the difference from what they are using to what is being shown. We all know they are upgrades, but just how big and where that point is that you just really need to finally make a move is super helpful.

Nice work Jay! I like the way you presented this. I'm still curious as to how Battlemage will compare to these other offerings as it will make my decision more complete! I'm still running an ARC A770 16gb card and no issues at all. Price to performance is still important to me since I'm on fixed Income. It may not be so with others but I'm looking at 1080p cards only. BTW your graphing is just fine with me! Many Thanks!!!

Outside the colors (that can't matter less to me, haha), I like the approach of "+/-4 cards to the current one" on the new charts. Cards that appear on a chart but no on the other can be somewhat calculated and that way we have more info without filling the screen.

I like how you did the graphs to compare the different cards. I want to see how it compares to the cards around it. I like it big help and allows be to know what to get.

I like how you've set up the data here. Finding what is closest and what is above and below it at the price point matters more in trying to pick a card than comparing each card to the greatest each side has to offer every time. Knowing it's th emiddle of the pack of data means I don't have to constantly figure where it's being put and keeping the RT without AI boosted features is a great way to show the real value of the raw potential of the card outside of the software. I'm actually liking the charts as they are now.

The new Avatar Frontiers of pandora has a pretty awesome benching suite. Nice modern and pretty hard to run game as well. Should hold up the the future quite nicely. So it would be awesome to see that included! Thanks for all your hide work. Wishing you good health 😊

I like the chart Jay, specifically shows where the one you’re reviewing is and makes it clear, and is also different from others. Also glad to see you doing ok so far.

I like the layout of these charts, only addition I'd like to see is the current pricing listed for the cards as well. When we start seeing last gen cards it's tough to evaluate based on these charts whether or not the current gen is worth it from a price perspective

I like the setup you did with the charts, giving a snapshot reference for what it compares against. Hope the color choices improve.

this will be a huge upgrade from my 6700xt. One thing I'd love from the graphics card videos so I do not have to hop around from content creator to content creator is at the low end what cpu's won't bottleneck it. going from low to high, idk for me maybe others I try to go mid to high tier every 2-4 years but CPU tends to be every 5 years or so for an upgrade unless necessary. Im running a Ryzen 7 5700x currently because i have AMD AM4 X570 ATX gaming motherboard. Or maybe i just need to research more to fully understand myself where the bottlenecks happen, idk. just a thought

The charts are good. Maybe stack them by performance (from worse to better) and put the 1% and 0.1% lows on the charts (I think the 1% low is very important). Also, is good to see several GPU's compared on the charts, it's easy to have a good look on the options this way.

For chart data I would enjoy a higher outlier to see what can you get if you spend much more (a tier or two or maxed out in gen). Plus a low outlier like what if you spent much less than this card (a tier or two, or weakest in gen). It's also nice to see the previous generation or two models to see if it's time to upgrade yet. Obviously the closest competition too like what you showed in today's video.

excellant video Jay !!!!! Question running at 5800x rite now with a 6800 gpu, dont upgrade to a 7000 gpu unless i update my cpu?? will i have problems with bottleneck?? again thanks great video

if you drop the 1080p bars, you could fit another one or two models on either side, which given the estimate spreads would be beneficial

I like the data charts from a price to performance standpoint. Only thing I would do (aside from the color scheme lol) is to maybe add a price-point in there somewhere, so we can see at a glance, what each card is valued at.

point of order, and im not the expert you are. but I notice in the pics the triangle in the lower left of the GRE and the triangle in the upper left of the XT may be the answer to the die orientation.

Love the charts that allow to see performance of closely matched cards. Might be cool to have the charts show the price cost of cards on the charts as it will add price performance

For me the ideal way to do "price based" benchmarks like this one is to do the model above & model below & equivalent from the other company (or 2) with maybe a further lower and/or higher tier card for scaling. The 7900GRE was available in OEM form in Australia & in a few EU countries in DIY form at a ~$649 price so to me the $549 is a price cut & relaunch.

I really like these charts and having the card (item) you are focusing on locked in the middle and a very different color> Keep up the good work Jay (and team)

I like just having 9 GPU's in the graphs. Some channels clutter their charts with dozens of devices which makes them really hard for me to follow.

Other than the colour change, I think having the RRP at launch on each card would be beneficial. As it is difficult to remember the prices for multiple generations at launch. And that way (to me at least) it would show how close the tested card is to other price ranges since the charts are not organised by price now. Hope that makes sense.

Hey Jay, I like this kind of charts and so on but I would prefer if the direct competitors (in this case the 7800XT, 7900 XT and the 4060 or something like this). Would make more sense for choosing which card to buy. And the rest of the nine cards should be either close points wise like you did today or some cards for reference e.g. a 4090

It would be nice to have more fixed reference points in the charts. So in this instance you could keep the GRE in the middle, then choose a card to always keep at the bottom and one one at the top, or just 2 other “reference” cards that are important for the comparison and that would help the viewer follow along the various tests

Hey Jay, have you found that 12hvpwr connectors cause whine either on the card end or the psu end? I have a system that was super quiet when using a 3070, but tried various 40 series and they’re all noisy from a whine perspective on one end or the other.

woulnd it be also an idea to everytime include the predecessor of the card in this case the 7800xt into every chart ? i missed it in shadow of tomb raider no rt for example

A nice addition to your grafts would be the inclusion of the MSRP for each card listed next to the name. It would give a better indication of performance to price.

What would be nice is to have a data set with the AVG of all the tests. I think most of us use the cards in multiple different applications. Each test will test a slightly different way the card will run. This is why I am asking for an average data set. This way we can a better idea of how the card will work at a glance without having to look up every single test that was run on the card then comparing them to the other cards.

thanks for the video Jay, only 1 thing to further improve: put the settings into the chart in case of "abuse" of these charts.

I like this method, would like the cards around the gaming benchmarks to be near the pricepoint.

Port Royale can vary quite a bit card by card. And FYI a 4090 does between 23000 with UV below 300W and 26000 with OC, the Stock average is between 24000-25000.

Great video!!! Could you include benchmarks on games such as: Call of Duty, Destiny 2, Starfield, and Apex Legends.

I just got it and use it for my HX99G (minisforum mini pc) with the Razer Core X Chroma. Mainly because it has that lower memory bus, lower wattage, and fit perfectly. Got a 17000 time spy score and can play games at 4k medium-high

Hey Jay how about mentioning rendering performance such as AV1 H264/265 or other uses the cards have apart from gaming

maybe try a plotted point chart? price across the bottom, fps up the side, plot the cards using different color dots for different resolutions/brands. for example, shades of green/red for nvidia/amd, light or pastel color for 1080p, normal/darker color for 1440p, neon for 4k. or something like that. and then a special color variation for the featured card. idk, just spit-balling an idea.

As someone who got the 7900 XT w/ the Starfield bundle when it launched, (which dropped the price tag to effective $650 for the GPU), it's nice to see the 7900 XT hold up in charts. I was able to get the price tag so low because I traded the game to a friend of mine since he wanted it anyway and while I'm sure I won't get such a good deal every time, it's good to take advantage of such a chance when it comes up.

Love the method. Keep it up mote informative

You can use patterns to help with accessibility. It might also help if you style AMD and nVidia differently.

could you list the intel arc for those graphics, it would be nice to see/compare how intel does in the statistics

I always struggled to read these data sheets but this way was actually a lot more comprehensible for me to understand. I think if anything, making the card being reviewed more obvious in some way would make it that much better.

Love this format and the rationale! Might also be helpful to include the price of the cards to make the $$:performance ratio more clear.

Hey Jay, love the channel, keep it up! Since you're also a car guy with a sim rig, I am wondering what your thoughts would be on hardware. I don't see many comparisons of gpu performance specific to sim racing in vr, especially in Iracing. There is a lot of opinion of "only buy Nvidia", but I don't see any data comparisons on this niche.

I'd love to hear some mention of efficiency, like performance per Watt. Total cost of ownership is typically not taken into account in hardware reviews, with only purchase price attracting attention.

Hi Jay, love your channel for quite a while now. One comment I want to make is that it'd be better if you include 1 & 0.1% lows in these graphs, superimposed on the avg. fps bars if you don't want too much clutter. I'm aware that you always say that your channel is more for the "average consumer" and not too deep or hardcore like GamersNexus or the like, but I feel like this is a simple enough of an addition that doesn't detract away from the main theme of your channel, but offers far greater comparisons of the graphics cards' performance. I recall even you yourself stated before on your channel in some videos that average fps is misleading in situations like this, since the lows are the ones that really become noticeable and affect the quality of the experience of the gameplay. It would be nice to add them to give a more round idea of the performance, with (what I imagine to be) very little extra work. Cheers, and keep on the good work!

My 7900 GRE just came in yesterday, loving it so far. Upgraded from an XFX 5700 to this XFX 7900 GRE

So as far as colors on the chart, this isn't absolutely needed, but color temperature based on performance per dollar would be nice compared to the baseline card. Such as green for a better cost/performance and red for a poor. And a gradient between?

I like the 4 cards above and 4 cards below idea, a vertical line showing the reference point across al cards might make that point even clearer though?

You know, that way of organizing the charts by 1440p. It makes it easier to see the averages for a rough estimate. Edit: Also, a 4th bar for price to performance.

How about showing the MSRP for each card (right next to the card name) on each game test? It's hard to keep the prices of the others in my head. Thx J.

The color shift worked well for me, sometimes with the charts it easy to get lost in them and forget which card the video is about. Maybe you can add something in the chart for the card you are reviewing to help it stand out to the viewers as we are looking around the chart as you are talking.

One title i think should be added to the testing suite is Alan Wake 2. Game is an absolutely gorgeous slide show with all the raytracing/path tracing turned on on my 6800xt. Yes, I know it has no business doing that, I just wanted to see how slow it would go. As far as data presentation. Outside of the color scheme, I actually like that y'all have chosen the four cards ahead/behind the one you review. I think one slide added before the actual test results should be the MSRP of all the cards tested for viewers to visualize price to performance.

As far as the chart goes it might help if you include the release price with the card on the left so that we can see the price per performance differences at a glance. I know you mention the prices as you go but those get lost in the information presentation.

I like the thought behind the charts, but a simple RGB for each resolution would improve a lot, for example, green for 4K, red for 1440p and blue for 1080p (that also matches the brands to the resolutions, like Nvidia is the most used in 4K, AMD has the best value for 1440p and Intel GPUs have great value for 1080p) and in the charts you add the MSRP of each card in the spectrum, like in the case of 4 higher and 4 lower like you did, to see how expensive the 4 lower are compared to the one in question, and how much more money you spend for so little gain in the 4 higher (you don't need to make a price chart, just add each price in the performance chart)

These charts are great! Is it possible to have the same cards on every slide? I think it would make it easier to compare the performance. I really like the way the Hellhound is "locked" in place and the rest move around it!

I kinda like this format for refreshes or extra cards, just, the 'what falls near it' sort of data. I think for bigger/first launches, I'd like just more data, essentially when it's less flooded with SKU's, seeing more matters. Like the 40's and 7000 series launch where we really see just how all of both sort of stacked up to each other, but with all the extra vomit of super/ti/ti super/xt/xtx these more condensed almost minisets make way more sense. Hopefully that makes sense?

is it offset by 90 degrees??? Looks like the orientation triangle/corner is rotated by 90 degrees....

I like the way you presented the data in this video. I think it is way more usefull than the usual comparison to the top dog GPU.

Hi Jayz 2 cent! Your one of my favorite showed by far! I was going to ask if you could do a real CPU and GPU utilization that what others shows show the bare inimum. The are you tube vids that show how to make the i900k and 2000 series and up to 4000 series have way more power utilization that makes the other videos look like there missing over a 3rd of setting that can speed up the CPU and gpu. Can you help us all understand why we are not being shown these way better setting? Thank you for your amazing program and I watch every day!:)

I like the 3 separate bars for averages of each resolution, but I'd like if there was a 1% low indicated on each bar as well. I value stability as much as raw performance.

Nice way to present it, makes easier to understand what the graphics is competing with, the colors are not that bad. I think 5 above, 5 below would make more sense, I would also put 4k first 1440p second and 1080p last (maybe consider removing 1080p at all, most tests report too high FPSs and this makes the reading harder, and sometimes weird because of the huge bars). Please, after AMD fix the driver, test a overclocked version of this card like the Saphire Nitro+, I think it will close the gap to the 7900 XT even more.

Nice video. Make the background color black and swap the 1080p and 1440p colors and the vidwo would be really nice

I wouldn't mind if you organized the charts by msrp more expensive at the top least on the bottom and then show the cards stats per test. Kinda helps visually imo for price to performance

I do like this chart format for something like this where we are well into the current gen of GPU and have enough data to compare where this lands in comparison to other cards. The usefulness is a bit limited when a new gen is being released so previous format showing the same card on all slides would be better at that point

For the charts, I like the fact that you put more cards on them to really see where the cards land in terms of performance. But I found it hard to follow the price/performance if that make sense. I think either : 1. 2 chart per tests, one with near performing cards whatever MSRP (with MSRP written under the card name) and one with same MSRP whatever performing. Or 2. A chart with near performance (with MSRP written under the card name) but class by MSRP rather than FPS. Personally I think the 2nd option would be great to builders, especially new ones, to know what they get for the money.

Where’s the 7800xt 4K fps bar ? The colours aren’t bad though just the 4K purple is a bit dark and obviously darker on the 7800xt 😅