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As making faster CPUs gets more difficult on the hardware side, a group of researchers have looked into improving them on the software side by creating a new instruction set that someday might completely replace x86 and ARM.
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@zeikjt
@zeikjt 5 років тому
Note to self: create a motherboard company called Leg that specializes in Arm cpu sockets. Linus will have to buy my boards, the joke will be too tempting!
@SapphFire
@SapphFire 5 років тому
ZeikJT I'll invest
@chrishansen7004
@chrishansen7004 5 років тому
SapphFire I'll invest too
@gavinfernandes6841
@gavinfernandes6841 5 років тому
I could give you a hand with that
@adamjohansson478
@adamjohansson478 5 років тому
Fun thing, ARMs 16 bit instruction set is called Thumb, it is a subset (with the most common instructions) of the ARM instruction set.
@PC4USE1
@PC4USE1 5 років тому
If you wanted to destroy said computer cpu would you use an Arm hammer?
@NetRolller3D
@NetRolller3D 5 років тому
0:28 Did you know the group promoting the use of ARM CPUs in servers is called the Linaro Enterprise Group, or LEG for short?
@ibizenco
@ibizenco 5 років тому
Ah. Thanks for that information: now I get his joke for the full 100% *lol*
@HellYeahCorp
@HellYeahCorp 5 років тому
Is this information gonna cost me?
@arkansawdave7428
@arkansawdave7428 5 років тому
@UniversalExpanse Now that's some funny chit!
@TAWithiam
@TAWithiam 5 років тому
They're nice but they'll cost you an arm and a leg.
@Soulessdeeds
@Soulessdeeds 5 років тому
@@TAWithiam BASTARD! Took my line lol.
@wh1t3h3ll
@wh1t3h3ll 3 роки тому
Would love to see an update on this two and a half years later, interesting how far its gotten Edit: now four years! Edit: after five years, the madlads did it.
@Jayce762
@Jayce762 2 роки тому
Same
@jameslibby5215
@jameslibby5215 2 роки тому
Agreed
@asifashiq5572
@asifashiq5572 2 роки тому
Same
@reecefrizzell6655
@reecefrizzell6655 2 роки тому
Agreed
@eggsrael4889
@eggsrael4889 2 роки тому
well uh RISC-V has been kinda thrown to the wayside in favor of ARM
@neildutoit5177
@neildutoit5177 4 роки тому
Linus: "have you ever sat in the bath and thought 'how can I build my own CPU'?" Me: How did you know?
@Dragonbyte
@Dragonbyte 4 роки тому
Lol same
@MIDTtwo
@MIDTtwo 3 роки тому
same diferent room
@alexc4924
@alexc4924 3 роки тому
this guy needs an FPGA
@LioncatDevStudio
@LioncatDevStudio 3 роки тому
Same here
@Czeckie
@Czeckie 3 роки тому
can i get say 40-50 years old fab equipment for photolitographing my own cpu dies in a garage sale?
@Luredreier
@Luredreier 5 років тому
Man, LTT has become a *lot* more interesting lately with videos about Linux and RISC-V etc. I love this. =) Honestly I had kind of stopped watching LTT, but I'm starting to pay more attention to the channel now with this new content. =)
@SkullRiderVideos
@SkullRiderVideos 5 років тому
Luredreier =)
@tavikohn641
@tavikohn641 5 років тому
I think the best part of x86/x86_64 is combing through the 4000ish page combined manual set from Intel and discovering that processor cores play musical chairs to decide which core runs when booting up the system.
@tavikohn641
@tavikohn641 5 років тому
You can find the description in section 8.4 (Multiple-Processor Initialization) of Intel's Software Developer's Manual Volume 3 (System Programming Guide: 8.4.3 MP Initialization Protocol Algorithm for MP Systems -- skipping stuff -- The logical processors begin monitoring the BNR# signal, which is toggling. When the BNR# pin stops toggling, each processor attempts to issue a NOP special cycle on the system bus. The logical processor with the highest arbitration priority succeeds in issuing a NOP special cycle, and is nominated the BSP (Bootstrap Processor). This processor sets the BSP flag in its IA32_APIC_BASE MSR, the fetches and begins executing BIOS boot-strap code, beginning at the reset vector (pysical address FFFF FFF0H). The remaining logical processors (that failed in issuing a NOP special cycle) are designated as APs (Application Processors). They leave their BSP flags in the clear state and enter a "wait-for-SIPI state." Vol. 3A 8-19
@kensmith5694
@kensmith5694 5 років тому
I think Intel uses a non-democratic bus arbitration system so it is really a rigged game of musical chairs. Even if they had "round robined" it with rotating priorities, the initial value in the priority register would mean a rigged game.
@tavikohn641
@tavikohn641 5 років тому
@@kensmith5694 Interesting. I figured it would probably be the same core each time unless it was unable to function properly.
@kensmith5694
@kensmith5694 5 років тому
It is likely it is almost always the same code.
@merklegroot6959
@merklegroot6959 5 років тому
Tavi, this is the UKposts comments section. Please keep your comments argumentative and devoid of real information.
@kabotteam
@kabotteam 4 роки тому
2021: RiscV starts producing 12nm, outperforms Intel
@richardlighthouse5328
@richardlighthouse5328 3 роки тому
We don't know if that would be successful, if they start producing 10nm or 7nm then it really is outperfoming intel.
@thegamingpickle4177
@thegamingpickle4177 3 роки тому
its not all about the conductor size. A cpu with 12nm process can very well be worse than a 14nm++++++ Processor
@richardlighthouse5328
@richardlighthouse5328 3 роки тому
@@thegamingpickle4177 How about 1um with million plusses. That surely be better than 14nm++++++
@thegamingpickle4177
@thegamingpickle4177 3 роки тому
@@richardlighthouse5328 :DD
@TheWinnieston
@TheWinnieston 3 роки тому
Dont hold your breath. Riscv is essentially vaporware at this point, with constant delays, promises, and claims it's being "worked on"
@MrGoatflakes
@MrGoatflakes 4 роки тому
10:59 Linus: "Previously some fantasy architecture would have to be used" MIPS: "Am I a joke to you?"
@Synthetica9
@Synthetica9 4 роки тому
Gotta catch that rabbit
@GrahamCantin
@GrahamCantin 4 роки тому
Am I a joke to you? Pfft. Yes. Tanenbaum was really good a teaching, but terrible at performance. ME TOO! Hey, have you heard about this io_uring thing? People are saying it's going to make my 350 syscalls look fat. Like the filesystem? God, that joke was cornier than grouping me with other limbs. I don't get it, is it the T2 in my name that makes people afraid of me? Nah mate, Sun died to death, like Motorola. At least it's not as bad as Hexagon. I ended up in the dreamcast, nobody will remove ME from GCC. I'm here too! Guys! Guys! Ignore him, I'm your microcontroller. ARM! He stole my peripherals! Lol, prove it in china. I, uh.. Wait, how did you all get in here, this is a mobile device! Shhhh. THEY'll notice your silly british walk. Who's they? You know. THEM. The ones who killed the sun. That's not all they killed. I thought you got better? ME TOO! No, no, I'M the one who killed the sun. Had help from One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison, and that other company with the dollar sign in their name. Everyone's ignoring me. At least you guys EXIST. I like trains! ME TOO! ... I'm surrounded by pretentious assholes. And idiots pounding their heads in the sand reinventing everything. But hey, at least the assholes are high functioning.
@KyussTheWalkingWorm
@KyussTheWalkingWorm 4 роки тому
This video, like much of the material about RISC-V, is fueled on hype and misleading statements more than anything. Open ISAs have been around for a while. Pure RISC is impractical and all popular RISC ISAs end up using CISC-y instructions for the sake of performance. I very much support the notion of moving towards open hardware. But maybe we should take a look at what's already out there, including de facto free off-patent ISAs like SuperH, before jumping on the hype train.
@GrahamCantin
@GrahamCantin 4 роки тому
@@KyussTheWalkingWorm Dude, anything out of the village idiot's mouth is hype or misleading. That's what he does. That's who he is. But it's still entertaining. Also, there's quite a few other open ISAs you're missing if you stick with textbook risc designs like SuperH. OpenSPARC T2 was solid, but not useful unless you have the resources to fab a board around it. But the real up-and-comer right now is parallax's propeller2; they opened the ISA around 2013/2014 IIRC. www.parallax.com/microcontrollers/propeller-1-open-source forums.parallax.com/discussion/170380/new-p2-silicon/p1 The successor is just leaving it's final tapeout and full production was supposed to commence in april, but.... coronavirus. So now it's looking like june/july. My RevB engineering sample just showed up not too long ago. It's amazing to have such a unique design just bang HDMI output from a header, while capturing four analog inputs. forums.parallax.com/discussion/171331/digital-digitizer-now-mixed-signal-scope-dds/p1
@derekchristenson5711
@derekchristenson5711 3 роки тому
As a recent Comp Sci grad, I came here to make this comment. MIPS was used to run Irix, to make "Jurassic Park" (featuring Irix!), and it powered the PlayStation Portable! Plus, it is really easy to understand. Now, find a modern workstation that uses it... well, you can't, but it has a lot more real hardware than RISC-V has! (I do with RISC-V and the folks behind it all success, though.) Pour out one for our old pal, MIPS: I knew him well, Horatio.
@benitollan
@benitollan 5 років тому
Linus dropped the old logo and broke it didn't he?
@Thatonedud212
@Thatonedud212 5 років тому
Benji DROP what's ligma?
@ibby748
@ibby748 5 років тому
@@Thatonedud212 sugondese nuts
@rooboty7137
@rooboty7137 5 років тому
ma nama jeff
@alan72104
@alan72104 5 років тому
lolllllllllll
@Chris_P_Lettuce
@Chris_P_Lettuce 5 років тому
I liked the old logo...
@ewanprinsen8948
@ewanprinsen8948 5 років тому
That is the cutest CPU cooler I've ever seen
@AE86ofMtAkina
@AE86ofMtAkina 5 років тому
A lot of early CPU heatsinks for the 486DX looked similar.
@taiefmiah
@taiefmiah 5 років тому
Northridge coolers
@Thefreakyfreek
@Thefreakyfreek 5 років тому
my intel atom cooler is simular but its just runing 1 kw cnc macine so
@FiasaPower
@FiasaPower 4 роки тому
Well, old cpus used to have similar coolers.
@thetrashmann8140
@thetrashmann8140 3 роки тому
Back in the day CPU's didn't even have coolers let alone fans in the case except for the power supply
@bagasnuradi
@bagasnuradi 4 роки тому
And so Huawei likely will go for RISC-V to build their next Kirin processor without any worry of US ban (ARM license)
@Cobalt985
@Cobalt985 4 роки тому
That would be cool as fuck.
@prodkaysa8636
@prodkaysa8636 4 роки тому
@@mritunjaymusale guess what
@prodkaysa8636
@prodkaysa8636 4 роки тому
@@mritunjaymusale samsung is starting to use risc-v
@syrukai2257
@syrukai2257 3 роки тому
I'm pretty sure Kirin is by SK hynix isn't owned by huawei but instead south korean
@v1Broadcaster
@v1Broadcaster 3 роки тому
yeah that’s not how that works
@C6438911
@C6438911 5 років тому
Yes I have a line of cpu's in mind: LEG cpu (Legitimate Extreme Goodness) FINGER cpu (Fantasticly Inexpensive and Greatly Enduring Resillience) NOSE cpu (Never Overpowered Seriously Ecofriendly) BRAIN cpu (Benign and Really Artificial Intelligent Now) MOUTH cpu (Mostly Overrated and Unbelievably Terrible Heuristics) LIPS cpu (Largely Integrated Problem Solving) NAIL cpu (Nice, Another Indifferent Loser)... really 'nailed' it with this one.
@chrisakaschulbus4903
@chrisakaschulbus4903 5 років тому
dont forget the "Protected Environment and Neat Implemented Security"-cpu... for running code in a container of some sort, so it cannot harm other soft/hardware
@Ben-ig3bf
@Ben-ig3bf 4 роки тому
@@chrisakaschulbus4903 wow
@alexc4924
@alexc4924 3 роки тому
THUMB is a thing
@novaTopFlex
@novaTopFlex Місяць тому
Thanks for your play on the ARM architecture that actually exists!
@worldaviation4k
@worldaviation4k 5 років тому
My CPU brought me here
@PaperBagMan884
@PaperBagMan884 5 років тому
Same tbh
@Ninjamaster222333
@Ninjamaster222333 5 років тому
Naturally
@rusty9959
@rusty9959 5 років тому
literally
@user-qw7hb4du6z
@user-qw7hb4du6z 5 років тому
My GPU showed me this
@jotbot1
@jotbot1 5 років тому
Only in Soviet Russia does CPU own you
@ethanjohn7638
@ethanjohn7638 5 років тому
I'm happy with Linus's recent interest in the world of open source. Keep up the coverage!
@Orindul
@Orindul 5 років тому
Yeah, these videos about the current development of the underlying systems that let computing happen are really useful. Great reason for me to keep following.
@matrixfull
@matrixfull 5 років тому
would be cool if someone would be getting into open source GPU as well :)
@feedtheagle6851
@feedtheagle6851 5 років тому
Maybe he will stop using GPL violating unraid then...
@TheRealFobican
@TheRealFobican 5 років тому
Then there should be a lot more linux over windows as of being the os used on the test benches though.
@victorwestmann
@victorwestmann 2 роки тому
Super dope ✅?
@alexstixx
@alexstixx 5 років тому
So 8 years ago when I was learning computer architecture, they taught us MIPS and x86 (32 bit). Looking forward to RISC-V tho, gonna be great to have open architectures!
@miracleshappen4483
@miracleshappen4483 5 років тому
I love this! I can't wait until everything goes open source so that we can see faster advancement in computer technology development. You have given us great news, thanks!
@Chris_P_Lettuce
@Chris_P_Lettuce 5 років тому
Literally nothing happened in that video but it was incredibly well scripted so I was hooked from the start. Even not knowing anything about CPU architecture I still understood EVERYTHING
@ppsarrakis
@ppsarrakis 5 років тому
linus in a nutshell.
@claudiolluberes111
@claudiolluberes111 5 років тому
Just because you didn't understand it doesn't mean nothing happened in the video 😂
@aronseptianto8142
@aronseptianto8142 5 років тому
@@claudiolluberes111 he did understand
@tbusch63
@tbusch63 5 років тому
Check out Wiki..! Wow, This was only new 26 friggin' Years ago! Only reason I didn't buy one is, Because everyone else was Microsoft Cucked! If Your phone was using one of these right now it would literally KICK THE SHIT Out of the CPU's we have now! Only reason your phone isn't running one of these bad boys is...? Wait for it!!! Fucking Microsoft!!!!! Bill Gates is a thief and a Billionaire ASSHOLE! Let's see if this post makes it to the comment section. Controlled by yours truly! Also, Google and Facebook! The worlds biggest friggin' Controllers of FREE SPEECH! Let's not forget about YOU TUBE AND TWITTER! Fuck the MSN ( Main Stream Media)!!!!!!!!!! WOLVERINES!!! Red Dawn is a 1984 American war film directed by John Milius!!!! Watch it and the remake!! Think about it!!! Before it is too late.. Watch Alex Jones @www.Infowars.com or newswars.com or www.Prison planet.com.... Or get Infowars Official app! Top of news section. Or go to www.infowars.com and download the free app today.. To see why the Democrats and the New World order hates Alex so bad, That they would ban his 1st Amendment Right according to the United States of America Constitution! Silencing Free Speech is a CRIME!!!!
@Chris_P_Lettuce
@Chris_P_Lettuce 5 років тому
@@claudiolluberes111 sorry I meant the video didn't change setting or anything it was just him talking
@hotforrobot
@hotforrobot 5 років тому
I like where these videos are going. I enjoy how you clearly breakdown why new technologies are relevant and important. Plus, you're introducing new ideas for all the nerds out there. Im going out to learn more about risc dev now.
@marshalcraft6734
@marshalcraft6734 5 років тому
it's good but he's clearly wrong about risc being better then cics or x86. x86 is currently the most efficient architecture and there is reason it has evolved the way it has.
@foobar879
@foobar879 5 років тому
@@marshalcraft6734 efficient in what way and at what cost ?
@lonewolfcoding5208
@lonewolfcoding5208 2 роки тому
@@marshalcraft6734 totally not its a monopoly i hate monopolies
@madhurgupta5100
@madhurgupta5100 5 років тому
I really love your videos!
@samgray49
@samgray49 3 роки тому
This system reminds me of how the Altair computer worked in the 1970's where your CPU was a a smaller board that plugged into a FPGA like board, and connected to the RAM, and other cards via a plug.
@axe693axe
@axe693axe 5 років тому
Honestly this technology makes me more excited than the launch of RTX.
@TheBlackSkimmer
@TheBlackSkimmer 5 років тому
Radon Technologies what? :P
@MineBro56
@MineBro56 5 років тому
@@TheBlackSkimmer The new GeForce RTX line of GPUs.
@TheBlackSkimmer
@TheBlackSkimmer 5 років тому
@@MineBro56 I know. I am just messing with you. Have you seen the lastest wan show on this GPU?
@31k3csgo
@31k3csgo 5 років тому
Honestly, anything does :D
@MineBro56
@MineBro56 5 років тому
@@TheBlackSkimmer oof
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 5 років тому
I love the "fu540" naming more than I should...
@terner1234
@terner1234 5 років тому
freedom unleashed
@lorenztor1990
@lorenztor1990 5 років тому
seeing as it's sponsered by Google and all the other tech giants I'm assuming that they really do mean FU in the sense that you find funny and they named it freedom unleashed as an even bigger FU, like Google would ever support freedom. hahaha.
@HaydenH
@HaydenH 5 років тому
Fu540 times
@gg-gn3re
@gg-gn3re 5 років тому
Lorenzo Torres Yep, just like AV1 codec for video, with hundreds of companies behind it in the Alliance for Open Media. These big companies are getting rid of the shitty locked down world we're in and making open products for anyone to contribute to and work with/on. After hardware will be software giants death and then ISP giants deaths
@MrHuno92
@MrHuno92 5 років тому
FU-540 => f.. you-sword art online
@isanasser
@isanasser 5 років тому
One of the best presentation and video from Linus. I love this polished format, please cover more revolutionary tech like this one.
@Jess-hj8vu
@Jess-hj8vu 4 роки тому
I'm just seeing this now but this kind of stuff gets me so excited for the future of computing! I hope some day we see more openness in these kinds of things, wether it be architecture or even the hardware. If you like stuff like this like me, definitely check out raptor computing systems and power9 by IBM.
@Aepek
@Aepek 5 років тому
Actually, it's not so much new logo that's throwing my mind into a "loop"....it's the COLOUR scheme! So used to orange w/ white, black, grey....that the purple & red? is seriously just messing with my mind 😅
@sithlordmaster181
@sithlordmaster181 5 років тому
Aepek didn’t even notice lik
@muizzsiddique
@muizzsiddique 5 років тому
I just noticed it a little before reading your comment.
@LoganDark4357
@LoganDark4357 5 років тому
color
@muizzsiddique
@muizzsiddique 5 років тому
*LoganPaul
@curbtripper
@curbtripper 5 років тому
BAHAHAHAHAH
@michaelnovak9412
@michaelnovak9412 5 років тому
This video is much more important than any of the normal videos on this channel. Projects like this are the only chance to defeat the disgusting surveillance monopoly corporations.
@deadadam666
@deadadam666 5 років тому
wow ..... i bet google told you that right
@michaelnovak9412
@michaelnovak9412 5 років тому
What do you mean?
@thronritter6295
@thronritter6295 5 років тому
I think AMD and Intel will dominate the market for at least the next decade.
@michaelnovak9412
@michaelnovak9412 5 років тому
ThronRitter80 Yea, it seems so, unfortunately. Did you know that any Intel CPU after the core 2 duo have backdoors you can't get rid of even when instaling freest GNU\Linux distribution?
@Elepole
@Elepole 5 років тому
So you say google spy on porn history, then you say no one has surveillance. Rather contradictory.
@antonnym214
@antonnym214 5 років тому
I love this! First, your video rules! Second, I was a z-80 and 8080 Assembly programmer in my younger days. We used the same dozen instructions ALL THE TIME. So definitely, I can understand the need for a small-but-useful instruction set. I have designed a CPU with only 16 instructions, and they are the ones I used all the time when I was programming. Makes the silicon very efficient and cheap when you can do that.
@notabackupaccount7664
@notabackupaccount7664 5 років тому
i like how AMD is always pushed out of the way even though they made x64
@stifflery
@stifflery 5 років тому
Doesn't matter, CPUs of both companies contain hardware backdoor, it's time we really need open-source backed hardware as well.
@johnkiser1410
@johnkiser1410 4 роки тому
@@stifflery You are aware that back doors could still be installed on open source hardware and it'd get out there the same way. Like just because it is open source doesn't mean stuff can't be snuck in.
@alexwolfeboy
@alexwolfeboy 4 роки тому
@@johnkiser1410 The main difference is if the architecture is open source, everyone can see it, and if there is a back door, it can't be hidden forever. Intel could hide one in their closed-source software, and it becomes much more difficult to find it. With open source, the community can slowly patch these sorts of things, so the dirty NSA can't watch us all.
@johnkiser1410
@johnkiser1410 4 роки тому
@@alexwolfeboy You do know there is a difference between open source hardware and software there yeah? A hardware backdoor is rather easy to install on any system. You would be right when we are talking about software, but it is rather easy to install spying hardware on hardware that is shipped out even if the "core" hardware is open source. Backdoors and random shit happen in open source software frequently all the time too. There have been instances of software repos being messed taken over by nefarious people and most people simply don't give a shit one way or another. In fact open source purists are one of the reasons Linux has so many damned issues in the public eye and even from private companies that feel they are being pressured by those type of people.
@paulluce2557
@paulluce2557 4 роки тому
I don't (like the way AMD are pushed out of the way).
@raft123
@raft123 5 років тому
Linus: "After I tell you about our sponsor..." Me: "Tunnel Bear!" Linus: "Noble Chair!" ...... close enough
@Spacecadet3890
@Spacecadet3890 4 роки тому
Did they pull all the tunnelbear adds out of old videos
@sagichnichtsowiesonicht7326
@sagichnichtsowiesonicht7326 4 роки тому
@@Spacecadet3890 why ?
@Spacecadet3890
@Spacecadet3890 4 роки тому
@@sagichnichtsowiesonicht7326 mcaffe bought tunnel bear, they don't work with them anymore because of it, google macafee tunnel bear and you will find the answers i believe linus has a video about it, i was just curious if they went and pulled all the old ones after they stopped working with them but they have not
@pandua
@pandua 3 роки тому
h
@David_Granger
@David_Granger 3 роки тому
I never watch sponsors, there are blocks for these out there
@Tavian.
@Tavian. 5 років тому
*Shoutout to linus media group for making the ads and intro only 10 seconds each so i can easily skip over it*
@gordonschuecker
@gordonschuecker 5 років тому
Can't remember what the first ad was about.
@rockbros100
@rockbros100 5 років тому
I think I when someone skips a ad immediately they don’t get any revenue or just very little
@xenite_
@xenite_ 5 років тому
@@rockbros100 they are talking about the in video ad which the advertisers probably pay for in advance
@Kriae
@Kriae 5 років тому
shhhh don't tell everyone
@rickvian
@rickvian 5 років тому
Backwerds if you love the video, you should consider support it by watching the ads
@putnamehere8940
@putnamehere8940 4 роки тому
"After a word from our sponsors" Me: skips 20 seconds
@milossilni
@milossilni 4 роки тому
linus is more presenter reading scripts then tech.
@TheIdiotPlays
@TheIdiotPlays 4 роки тому
Linus: :o
@user-re4jf2sb4q
@user-re4jf2sb4q 4 роки тому
Shift right right
@granitbajraktari1600
@granitbajraktari1600 4 роки тому
Why are you proud of the fact that you're not supporting content creators?
@putnamehere8940
@putnamehere8940 4 роки тому
@@granitbajraktari1600 did I say I was proud. Btw I bet that when you get an add you skip as soon as 5 seconds are over. Smh
@SloppyPuppy
@SloppyPuppy Рік тому
Would love to see more educational and promotional content for a free instruction set like this. Im a college student & today after I come back from an Algebra exam I have, Ima take up risc-v assembly. It seems fun, and seems like an easier 80386 which I've already had a course on.
@Animated__Freak
@Animated__Freak 5 років тому
I really would love for an Open Source architecture would become standard. It would benefit everybody in the long run.
@memoriasIT
@memoriasIT 5 років тому
Animated Freak I doubt it would be as profitable for other companies tho
@entriphy
@entriphy 5 років тому
@@memoriasIT Why not? If anything, it's profiting more because companies can manufacturer their own processors, making it cheaper for them and possibly consumers.
@uood5
@uood5 5 років тому
wouldn't benefit intel or AMD, so it won't happen
@spitfiremase
@spitfiremase 5 років тому
@@memoriasIT open source/'free' doesnt mean free as in cost. People could still turn a profit on modifications of it
@kristophertadlock779
@kristophertadlock779 5 років тому
Open source is not always better. The profit incentive produces tangible innovation, and often companies that do really well with proprietary technology stick around to support it and push the product to maturity. As consumers what we really want is fast and capable computers.
@ALegitimateYoutuber
@ALegitimateYoutuber 5 років тому
This is a really interesting bit of tech, because it has a lot of growth potential. But when it becomes cheaper, this would be an amazing tool for many tech hobbyists.
@benni5541
@benni5541 5 років тому
John J it will be difficult to drive down over 1k product down to 35$ like a raspbery pi
@ALegitimateYoutuber
@ALegitimateYoutuber 5 років тому
true, but getting the price down to even 500 dollars would be fantastic. Since it offers some really interesting opportunities.
@saltysoysauce954
@saltysoysauce954 5 років тому
@@benni5541 I disagree, if they make a bunch of these it has the potential to be cheaper. Hell, Raspberry could use it instead of ARM, as it would be cheaper because it's open source!
@England91
@England91 5 років тому
@@saltysoysauce954 or arduino
@MauroTamm
@MauroTamm 5 років тому
Getting it from 28 to 7nm would already help + large scale production also helps mitigate costs.
@imtheone221
@imtheone221 5 років тому
I’d like to take a moment To thank Linus and his team for doing a great job of explaining this. Keep up the great work!
@MorrisChannel4
@MorrisChannel4 4 роки тому
The FU 540, soon to be included with the SUX 9000 graphics chip.
@scriptedreality2330
@scriptedreality2330 3 роки тому
Which would have a manufacturer called SHT make their own SUX 9000s.
@MorrisChannel4
@MorrisChannel4 3 роки тому
@@scriptedreality2330 hahahahaha!
@scriptedreality2330
@scriptedreality2330 3 роки тому
@@MorrisChannel4 and of course another competitor called PIS, known for their great overclocking.
@newbie8520
@newbie8520 5 років тому
"FU" 540, later more FUs will be released.
@-ahvilable-6654
@-ahvilable-6654 5 років тому
Real base
@zesjerome7189
@zesjerome7189 4 роки тому
wrg, say any s ok
@anandsuralkar2947
@anandsuralkar2947 4 роки тому
Fuck
@CaptainSeamus
@CaptainSeamus 4 роки тому
Many, Many more FUs will indeed be released.
@KeeperOfKale222
@KeeperOfKale222 5 років тому
Who follows a tech channel and dislikes a video about an open source processor?
@patience__8051
@patience__8051 5 років тому
KeeperOfKale kid : gugguhuguguuu this is not over priced laptop review with Fortnite guguguguguughhh disliked
@mochageico
@mochageico 5 років тому
Ikr
@ianmoore322
@ianmoore322 5 років тому
This guy
@NoorquackerInd
@NoorquackerInd 5 років тому
And the ones who claim to be "way MORE open source and knowledgeable about this" and dislike because some facts are wrong. They need to get over it and stop being a butthurt Stallman. It's a bunch of random dudes on the Internet, they only have popularity because unlike everyone else, they _act upon this_ and created a UKposts channel.
@Djhg2000
@Djhg2000 5 років тому
Intel
@ForrestBobHD
@ForrestBobHD 5 років тому
The IBM Personal Computer actually used the slightly older Intel 8088 (although the 8086 had already been invented).
@BruceHoult
@BruceHoult 5 років тому
Wrong way around .. the 8086 came first. 8088 was a later reduced cost (and slower) version.
@ForrestBobHD
@ForrestBobHD 5 років тому
@@BruceHoult I stand corrected.
@Joshua-ym7ei
@Joshua-ym7ei 4 роки тому
Just to clarify a point that was lightly insinuated. If you do a little bit of research about what the risk architecture is compared to other architectures, It doesn't actually have to do with the number of instructions. It's pretty counter intuitive, but it's actually referring to the length of the instruction word. Just a heads up!
@greggv8
@greggv8 5 років тому
I saw the Rambus logo in there. Who let those crooks in on RISC-V? Has everyone forgotten how they sneakily filed patents on RDRAM when it was supposed to be an open and royalty free replacement for SDRAM, spearheaded mainly by Intel and Micron? DDR came about, without the Rambus crooks involved, because of those patents. RDRAM died a fairly quick and well deserved death, but that didn't stop Rambus from suing everyone they pretty much stole the RDRAM IP from.
@goclunker
@goclunker 5 років тому
Thought the exact same thing!
@kevinalexander8201
@kevinalexander8201 5 років тому
I was wondering how many companies joined to move things forward and how many joined to bog things down or else sneaky profit on it at the expense of everyone else.
@nadeemshaikh7863
@nadeemshaikh7863 5 років тому
Who let? Can anyone stop them from joining an open source project?
@bootyholeman5659
@bootyholeman5659 4 роки тому
When p4 fist came out, along with rdram. A friend insisted that i build her a top of the line system so that she could compile faster. Well it was horribly underwhelming, performing about the same or even worse than her p3 system. When intel finally jumped ship to ddr2 i upgraded her ram/mobo and it finally ran well.
@gamernerd7139
@gamernerd7139 4 роки тому
@white That is the problem with it. It is needed to motivate people to innovate, but it can be misused by some unscrupulous ones. Tough choice. What Linux did for software is what RISC V is targeting as a model. But in the hardware space the ecosystem is much smaller, given not everybody can get into hardware design as easy as software.
@gwgux
@gwgux 5 років тому
Well open source software has been proven to be a major factor in software development and now runs super computers and 60+ percent of the servers on the internet. It only makes sense to do the same for hardware at some point. Proprietary lockdown and expensive licenses stifle innovation. I look forward to seeing this hardware evolve.
@ianzen
@ianzen 5 років тому
Hardware and software development is quite different though. If I design a piece of software, I write it, test it and distribute it quite easily directly from my computer. If I design a cpu, I have to first write it in hardware design language, test it in simulation, get it manufactured, physically test it, set up a supply chain to manufacture and distribute it. As you can see, the costs for hardware development is quite high. Even then you can't guarantee the success of your product if you can't beat existing architectures at certain niches. That's why no one is really designing new architectures outside of academia and large corporations.
@josemorenoporras7506
@josemorenoporras7506 5 років тому
that is just about to change. RISC V takes advantage on software development techniques and make easy to make cpu. I think Intel and AMD are scary as hell,in a few years I see tons of cpu brands using RISC V.
@blg53
@blg53 5 років тому
Thought in this context "making a CPU" simply means microcoding an update to an existing (micro)code. Did I get it right?
@MsLia32
@MsLia32 5 років тому
+Bob Berg you got it right if you lived in 1985 Making a cpu core is relatively straight forward to code in VHDL. If you license the core, like ARM does, you can leave the design of the chip up to third party manufacturers. Here is a list of major open source soft cores: www.embecosm.com/2013/11/20/softcores-for-fpga-the-free-and-open-source-alternatives/ I don't know why this is all of a sudden a "new" thing.
@MsLia32
@MsLia32 5 років тому
+MsLia32 oh wait i should have watched the video first
@oguzaranay
@oguzaranay 5 років тому
A difficult topic to put together. I was the TA fir computer organization last semester and we used RISC-V sandbox and Dinero as cache simulator. Really really optimized instruction set.
@FlaxTheSeedOne
@FlaxTheSeedOne 4 роки тому
Were actually learning the ins and out of RISC-V at university. Talking about Pipelining Speculative execution And the basic layout of a CPU Architecture. It's quite amazing and fun to learn about.
@NobodyYouKnow98
@NobodyYouKnow98 4 роки тому
Oh so they've already started the brainwashing at universities? How predictable.
@FlaxTheSeedOne
@FlaxTheSeedOne 4 роки тому
@@NobodyYouKnow98 Why is learning about cpu architecture and how pcs work brainwashing? you actually know that Intel and amd also use risc right? they implement that at below the x86 instruction and have hardware decoding to a risc code. for Intel called yOPS.
@kylekieffer2648
@kylekieffer2648 5 років тому
The fact that for my senior design project in electrical engineering we are designing a RISC-V computer demo for classrooms just makes this video all that more amazing!
@OmaiGrundles
@OmaiGrundles 5 років тому
I would invest in this, but my advisors say this is too RISCy
@JosueC730
@JosueC730 5 років тому
I see what you did there. I bet they are closed minded because they are onto closed source.
@MisterKaen
@MisterKaen 4 роки тому
I love how you find new ways of introducing the sponser. Ads suck in general but at least you make them better. And usually stuff we would be interested in anyways. Good show old man
@Adriana-eo9dx
@Adriana-eo9dx 4 роки тому
I watch this even though I don't know anything about computers. I've been able to pic up a couple things. I know other channels do this but if you guys made a channel where you take noobs like me from ground zero of tech knowledge and teach us this informations. Would be so cool man. So cool. Just like everything about computers and all these parts and how they work and stuff.
@glyndavies2828
@glyndavies2828 5 років тому
Not even remotely surprised Apple wasn't on that list of companies...
@BothHands1
@BothHands1 5 років тому
for real xD Surprised he didn't mention Qualcomm being on there though, they're massive.
@lukasvaranavicius3997
@lukasvaranavicius3997 5 років тому
Probably because they can't control it and use it for themselves
@coldaddysupreme2956
@coldaddysupreme2956 5 років тому
Glyn Davies APPLE BAD
@SuperSmashDolls
@SuperSmashDolls 5 років тому
I'm actually kind of surprised. Right now Apple pays shittons of royalties to license ARM patents so they can legally manufacture compatible CPUs. You'd think they'd jump at the chance to kick ARM in the balls the same way they did to Imagination Technologies...
@foxman105
@foxman105 5 років тому
Aren't they developing their own CPU's again?
@fro16883
@fro16883 5 років тому
i imagine that the cost to license CPU architecture would be a bit... DisARMing
@yumri4
@yumri4 5 років тому
i agree though i doubt it will be as fast as ARM SoCs any time soon but when it is i see phones going over to RISC-V instead of ARM as RISC-V will be better and they'll just get everyone to get a new version of the app recompiled for RISC-V instead of ARMv6, ARMv7, ARMv8, or whatever version they are on by then but RISC-V is only the CPU not the CPU, GPU, hard drive controller, webcam interface receiver, etc. and so on an ARM processor deals with alot of stuff that a single CPU package does not
@RonLaws
@RonLaws 5 років тому
Don't need to re-compile the app, that's all handled by the java VM stack when you run it, just publish the apk and off it goes. - Someone who writes android apps.
@robertoaguiar6230
@robertoaguiar6230 5 років тому
Epic win is epic
@pablogarin
@pablogarin 4 роки тому
Well... I have to say I've been thinking how can I design my own CPU!! Ben Eater has a great video which started my path into that treacherous path...
@tiger12506
@tiger12506 5 років тому
Yes I did actually ask myself that question. And it was actually the final project in one of my college courses to design a CPU on an FPGA device -- a simple RISC CPU based on all the material we had learned throughout the course. (Well known, not under NDA material)
@leaningtoweravenger
@leaningtoweravenger 5 років тому
Before, the MIPS was used in textbooks. The authors of MIPS were the same ones of the first book that is shown in the video. MIPS chips used to power SGI workstations and now they can still be found in appliances. The MIPS was a very clean architecture and it was very suitable for teaching. About the complexity of x86 / x64: they are complex but the complexity is meant to be hidden by the compiler as you are probably not supposed to code in assembly any more. The various OP codes that were introduced during the years are used for very specific optimizations, such as vectorization, and they are used to enable some very specific compiler made optimizations or (re)write bits and pieces of specific libraries, e.g., the inner loop of some decoding algorithm. Other architectures were open sourced in the past, such as PPC and, on some extent, SPARC but they never landed anywhere. As for the customization part, ARM does the customization too for many customers and that seems to be the game AMD is playing as well in more recent times (especially for the consoles market).
@ravitharaka
@ravitharaka 5 років тому
The problem with the x86 having too much instructions is it leads to inefficiencies in the micro-architectural design. Basically it doesn't use the silicon area on the chip as well as it should. Intel with its massive resources still keeps up building better and better processors but still their momentum has been slowing down over the years. Also note that Intel architectures are only good for laptop, server and desktop areas, they are not very successful in low power, low area situations, probably owing again, to the garbage accumulated in the ISA. Furthermore, closed architectures lead to security problems, a good example is the Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities that remained undiscovered for decades, arguably due to lack of a large open community. An open source architecture fixes many of these problems and with enough public interest, and interest from universities RISC-V could become the future.
@leaningtoweravenger
@leaningtoweravenger 5 років тому
I am actually not convinced by this argument: > Furthermore, closed architectures lead to security problems, a good example is the Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities that remained undiscovered for decades, arguably due to lack of a large open community The reason why I am not convinced is that open source software isn't flawless either and fixing hardware problems is way more difficult than fixing software ones. RISC-V is meant to be expandable and create a bunch of different derived processors with more / custom instructions. The compatibility will be guaranteed only for the strict subset of initial instructions and / or a set of standardised ones, e.g., if I decide to create 10 new instructions to do X better, I am actually creating a new processor incompatible with the other ones (for the X part). If you do not think that this could be a huge problem, think to the fact that there will be a lot of small compilers and / or a huge number of backends for gcc to target specific extensions that are maintained by a small amount of people with limited resources and for that reasons they could be buggy and introduce errors in the applications built for that RISC-V flavour.
@leaningtoweravenger
@leaningtoweravenger 5 років тому
Beware, I see a huge potentiality for the RISC-V in the super-computing space as you can build your own super custom chip to do all the fancy operations that you want super fast but I would not consider that a mainstream application for a processor. Another important point is that in the super-computing space, nowadays, the CPU does very little and the bulk of the work is done by GPUs anyway
@ChristofferViken
@ChristofferViken 5 років тому
leaningtoweravenger: in the subject of Open Source and security, I need only say one name: Heartbleed. Also Meltdown and spectre would not be easier to discover if you had the source code, in fact it would be easier to discover those with just the manual than with the code.
@LetsRocka
@LetsRocka 5 років тому
I didn't hear a thing... JUST LOOK AT QUAKE 2 !!!
@vhity
@vhity 5 років тому
This make me feel deja vu because i pass this game again few days ago
@1oneguythat
@1oneguythat 5 років тому
rite lol
@GeorgMayer
@GeorgMayer 4 роки тому
this is one of your best videos - it was very interesting and i learned a lot. Please more on open source stuff, it is really interesting and you have a unique style showing the benefits. Thanks.
@kinomora-gaming
@kinomora-gaming 5 років тому
THIS! THIS IS EXCITING! I absolutely LOVE this! And on top of that, the way to provide the content and explain it with such detail really convinces me you're an expert on the subject, even if you are just reading a script. Your writers do amazing work researching their subject and you do a great job presenting it!
@letsgobubblegum
@letsgobubblegum 5 років тому
Wow this is actually really awesome. I've always wondered how Intel and AMD were pretty much allowed to be the only two major cpu manufacturers on the planet. This is really cool.
@ziomalisty
@ziomalisty 5 років тому
Others went bankrupt (eg. Cyrix). Intel left AMD alive because didn't want US government to intervene (anti-monopoly laws).
@RIPHitchens
@RIPHitchens 5 років тому
there is also MIPS
@jacklinde7568
@jacklinde7568 5 років тому
They weren't "allowed", It was market forces. There were a few microprocessor manufacturers in the 90's. Some died out to mismanagement. (Motorola) Some for missing market trends. (Cyrex, along with some mismanagement) Some were bought up (and then shut down, thanks to Intel). And, some just shut down their lines and bought chips from other manufacturers, because it was in some way better or more cost effective. (IBM/Lenovo) And, every now and then, A startup will pop up to challenge AMD and Intel on this level. Sadly, due to expenses (like engineers and fabrication plants), this has a very high entry cost barrier. Plus, with most people not trusting a company that hasn't been tried and tested, it means a very slow adoption rate. Maybe this new chip standard will take hold.
@KaiserTom
@KaiserTom 5 років тому
Mostly because Intel and AMD are protected by the government via patent on the various parts of the x86 architecture and black box reverse engineering like Cyrix did becomes increasingly more expensive and difficult as both Intel and AMD add more and more to the architecture. And in spite of the shady practices, the reality is that both companies have been amazingly innovative and have dedicated an obscene amount of money towards R&D for much of their history, which is hardly a bad thing. A company should be justly rewarded for things like that with majority market share. Any other company attempting their way into the market requires a lot of capital simply playing catchup, let alone attempting to be on par or ahead of either, just for the risk of gathering market share. Of course, as a company slows down or begins to take advantage of that market share, people and companies will begin looking towards alternatives.
@devonkubacki1088
@devonkubacki1088 5 років тому
For commercial products in most of the world; Yes, Intel and AMD. Don't forget, IBM is still around. They are the big ARM processor manufacturer and special tailor-made ASIC processors for things like Super computers. Also, China has started development of their own architecture separate from all of the above. Cause, y'know, they can. www.pcworld.com/article/3086107/hardware/chinas-secretive-super-fast-chip-powers-the-worlds-fastest-computer.html 2016, so kinda old news.
@jackhulbert9969
@jackhulbert9969 5 років тому
content has been really intresting lately keep up the good work @linustechtips
@MrJailbreakdude
@MrJailbreakdude 5 років тому
the distinction between CISC and RISC was the first thing I learned my junior year of university, I really do hope RISC comes back into the limelight as it's the only way we'll be ale to further push miniaturization now that we'e hitting an atomic wall
@duckadence
@duckadence 11 місяців тому
My uni just integrated RISC-V into the curriculum this year so I learned RISC-V assembly instead of ARM assembly.
@CommanderCortex
@CommanderCortex 5 років тому
I miss the old Logo
@NicolaiWeitkemper
@NicolaiWeitkemper 5 років тому
Says the one with the old Windows logo
@svendinsvinderlin4569
@svendinsvinderlin4569 5 років тому
Nicolai Weitkemper one would say that if Chris Cotton said "I hate the old logo" but Chris did not say that therefor Chris is completely allowed to say this
@MrTurbo_
@MrTurbo_ 5 років тому
this new logo is just weird, to messy
@BothHands1
@BothHands1 5 років тому
You would say that, with your Windows 95 pfp xD
@idevastate_exe
@idevastate_exe 5 років тому
Same
@hunterp589
@hunterp589 5 років тому
I never thought that I'd see the day that Linus uses a $5 HD 6450. I thought that he'd put at least a GTX 1060 in there.
@thronritter6295
@thronritter6295 5 років тому
DriVErS
@hunterp589
@hunterp589 5 років тому
@@thronritter6295 Yes of course, I was talking about in general because usually he focuses on high end components.
@blackthanos85
@blackthanos85 5 років тому
Then your new here. Huntrin.....
@Atemu12
@Atemu12 5 років тому
Good luck getting Nvidia drivers to work on a non-x86 system
@robinsuj
@robinsuj 5 років тому
Well, they ARE on the list of companies that'll use this. Eventually they'll have to have drivers for it, won't they?
@bobgreene2892
@bobgreene2892 4 роки тому
Very good context for appreciation of new CPU developments. This also pushed my own interest in researching and buying a capable RISC machine as soon as possible.
@NobodyYouKnow98
@NobodyYouKnow98 4 роки тому
You do realize that the RISC architecture is DECADES old, right? The reason you don't already have a "capable RISC machine" is because it's inferior technology. Did I mention it's decades old technology? RISC processors are great for printer CPUs. That's about the extent of it.
@williamlazenby314
@williamlazenby314 3 роки тому
I haven't been this excited about hardware in a long time. Thanks for this video!
@ErikEnglund
@ErikEnglund 5 років тому
Like the new videos doing deep down geeky stuff, docker, Linux gaming, risc, etc. All great, well scripted and a welcome departure from just another pc build. Keep them coming.
@AKhan360
@AKhan360 5 років тому
"after I tell you about our sponso-" *presses forward arrow a couple times*
@rogerlouttit5451
@rogerlouttit5451 5 років тому
Guilty
@jepubepu9570
@jepubepu9570 5 років тому
dont skip the intro or ban
@yugen8382
@yugen8382 5 років тому
Shhhhh....he doesnt have to know
@forza1sra
@forza1sra 5 років тому
Alden Prokup you mean the L key.
@user-yp8gi4uq1z
@user-yp8gi4uq1z 5 років тому
Yes
@DKatierS
@DKatierS 4 роки тому
There has been a 'Home' computer using RISC, and in a way linked to RISC V.. The old BBC Archimedes computers used a RISC based processor (the ARM, Acorn RISC Machine - Acorn making BBC Micro's of course) which was designed by Sophie Wilson and inspired by Berkleys research into RISC back in the 1980's. That research being the root from which RISC V was developed.
@thatguynamedmorgoth8951
@thatguynamedmorgoth8951 4 роки тому
There were a few inaccuracies about microcode, microcode isn't in current cpus for backwards compatibility or legacy, it is needed. The microcode tells the cpu what every instruction means and what to do in general, it takes care of dirty bits, deals with interrupts, latches and much more, it also makes sure that no app is reading data it shouldn't. Microcode is an essential part of any cpu
@StopChangingUsernamesYouTube
@StopChangingUsernamesYouTube 5 років тому
There is a startling lack of RISC v. CISC arguments in the comments.
@user-py9cy1sy9u
@user-py9cy1sy9u 5 років тому
Programs compiled for CISC should be smaller than RISC but RISC V with compressed instructions is smaller than x86(CISC) or x64(CISC). That shows how bad x86 ISA is
@LimitedWard
@LimitedWard 5 років тому
There's no such thing as white CISC male privilege. Kappa
@zangetsu6638
@zangetsu6638 5 років тому
thing is, modern hardware versions of either architecture are bastardized and are both mixed breed, sharing features of both philosophies. nothing is pure CISC or pure RISC anymore. CPUs are mutts now.
@thearmyofiron
@thearmyofiron 5 років тому
Just made one
@xirta1
@xirta1 5 років тому
no one uses cisc, if you want a CPU that actually does piplining when its a risc cpu.
@DaintierFox
@DaintierFox 5 років тому
Who else misses the old logo
@fiveowen
@fiveowen 5 років тому
DaintierFox not me
@daniel_ghax
@daniel_ghax 5 років тому
🙋‍♂️(imagine it with a sad face)
@urbantuckerman
@urbantuckerman 5 років тому
It burns my eyes! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
@OfficialRey202X
@OfficialRey202X 5 років тому
Not Me! I Like The New Logo!
@qniklas9257
@qniklas9257 5 років тому
I dont like me
@l3lue7hunder12
@l3lue7hunder12 Рік тому
RISC-V sounds like a good base for a programmable architecture, where you not only can add commands through micro-code coding but possible run foreign architecture tasks using a similar trick - something a FPGA is needed for today. One could use something like this to run multi-architecture applications in parallel at a decent, though not overly high speed. It could also be used to allow a X86 system for compatibility, with the instruction set loaded / infused by the system BIOS on boot rather than being preinstalled, which can run RISC-V coded applications for top performance.
@blhtml
@blhtml 5 років тому
this was interesting! I remember the launch of Acorn Archimedes in 1987 we the computer nerds back then was very exited and then no real news until today about RISC!
@gianmendez1921
@gianmendez1921 5 років тому
linus is the man that does not give a damn about a new graphics card,all tech channels focus on thw new gpu's
@TotoGeenen
@TotoGeenen 5 років тому
Techlinked has videos on the new Graphicscards and techlinked is part off linusmediagroup
@cyrenarkade
@cyrenarkade 5 років тому
Probably released on floatplane and will reach us in a few days
@BenjaminWeeb
@BenjaminWeeb 5 років тому
He could already have a sample and be under NDA.
@alynoser
@alynoser 5 років тому
Prob waiting to make a huge rant against them.
@BothHands1
@BothHands1 5 років тому
I think he said on WAN show that he didn't want to go to their PR event, specifically so he didn't have to go under NDA. Maybe he changed his mind though.
@jhonnyrodrigues
@jhonnyrodrigues 5 років тому
Before this RISCV architecture we studied MIPS. Hennesse-Patterson previous books were based on it, and this is pretty much not invented just for learning purposes, as exists market for MIPS. But this new one seems much more interesting due to the personalization available. Cool
@sinekonata
@sinekonata 4 роки тому
"FU 540 which stands for Freedom Unleashed" That's like a Stallman joke :D
@cvoges12
@cvoges12 4 роки тому
Episodes like this is why we love you Linus
@ravenshadevox
@ravenshadevox 5 років тому
I love how Linus approaches sponsors in such an upity way, make my giggle every time.
@ujjwalpawar5920
@ujjwalpawar5920 5 років тому
Connected to European vpn. Damn wish ads are annoying.
@Nahrain1
@Nahrain1 5 років тому
here in iraq there is no ads 😌
@HaaskaChan
@HaaskaChan 5 років тому
yeaa it's like a aids in europe.
@whatTheFup
@whatTheFup 5 років тому
Tell me about it... No I dont need "fancy roze bangle drunkard" shit or the damn mop socks...
@BlitzkriegGT
@BlitzkriegGT 5 років тому
use ublock origin on mozilla or adblock plus i never see again other ads
@zcore1471
@zcore1471 5 років тому
The smartwatch ad .... Reeeeeeeeeeeeee the wish ads are so stupid
@glorytoarstotzka330
@glorytoarstotzka330 4 роки тому
11:38 "speaking of time , if you find yourself with some time with your hands..." linus predicted what's gonna happen even 1 year and a half before it happened
@SGuy453
@SGuy453 4 роки тому
I'm really wondering if one day Linus is gonna talk about the Cell processor, you know, the one the PS3 used
@framegrace1
@framegrace1 5 років тому
ARM is also RISC (Advanced Risc Machines). Just FYI. Intel and AMD are CISC.
@thearchiveable
@thearchiveable 5 років тому
Acorn.
@thunderb00m
@thunderb00m 5 років тому
Lol. Maybe long ago but ARM is no longer RISC
@framegrace1
@framegrace1 5 років тому
locknight It is still RISC. You clever guys. Go read a little
@thunderb00m
@thunderb00m 5 років тому
@@framegrace1 do you even know how many instructions are implemented in hardware for the cortex A8 ? it is in no way fitting the conventional definition of RISC. That's also why ARM is no longer calling itself Advanced RISC machines but just ARM.
@Conenion
@Conenion 5 років тому
> Intel and AMD are CISC. Only ISA-wise. Internally Intel became RISC in 1995 with the Pentium Pro. AMD followed shorty after.
@polaraev
@polaraev 5 років тому
It looks like this will help smaller companies become semi popular instead of having Intel and amd hog the market and I'm all for competition.
@cursedsound
@cursedsound 5 років тому
Yes we definitely need some competition so the prices drop a bit 🙏
@autohmae
@autohmae 5 років тому
I think AMD would probably have no problem joining them. They have been talking to ARM as well in the past.
@TheMC1X
@TheMC1X 5 років тому
Fun fact: AMD always push open-sourced initiatives, such as OpenGL, OpenCL and Vulkan. Wouldn't be surprised if in the near future AMD starts to back this idea.
@julian403
@julian403 5 років тому
Its good to know that, there would be good implementations on fpga plus the posibility to add more instrucctions or other modules to the microprocessor.
@kensmith5694
@kensmith5694 5 років тому
You can already do that with several micro-processor definitions for FPGA. There is an open version of the 8051. If you like, you can add stuff to it.
@saswatmund8904
@saswatmund8904 9 місяців тому
Would Like to see an update on it man. Like current scenario apple shifting to arm based m chips and all So Risc-V also going great
@Learrigh270
@Learrigh270 5 років тому
Lmao what happened to the profile picture Edit: why tf did this get so many likes for a genuine question? Lmao ty tho
@forgettd
@forgettd 5 років тому
Linus said it will change eventually. They're just searching for something refreshing
@thedarkside0007
@thedarkside0007 5 років тому
LTT
@justinyhc3057
@justinyhc3057 5 років тому
@@forgettd pheww
@raintzrandmaa9829
@raintzrandmaa9829 5 років тому
It actually says L T T if u can read
@cloudninja8748
@cloudninja8748 5 років тому
Mr.Gl0ck0 it looks like a channel super fun kind of logo
@koolholio
@koolholio 5 років тому
Awww, Linus learns the archaic architectures whilst researching his open source hardware? I'm proud of you! ISA was probably the basis of that RISC-V port, oh wait there's a RISC-V ISA page featuring Berkeley!
@KoustavSamaddar
@KoustavSamaddar 5 років тому
@10:44 R.I.P MIPS ISA. I just took our Comp Arch class last semester with it. Shame I couldn''t take it with RISC-V but I'll definitely try and take a look under the hood in my free time.
@franscartoons
@franscartoons 5 років тому
Thank you for ARM and RISC, Cambridge!
@andljoy
@andljoy 5 років тому
Acorn :)
@jonathanellis6097
@jonathanellis6097 5 років тому
I was gonna comment, wernt arm cpus risc based? that were evolved from an amiga design just before they went under?
@NoorquackerInd
@NoorquackerInd 5 років тому
ARM stands for "Advanced RISC Machine" but it's really leaning towards CISC...
@DJJohnDru
@DJJohnDru 5 років тому
ARM was a joint venture between Acorn and Apple and was derived from the CPUs from the BBC Microcomputer and the Acorn Archimedes. Amiga's had a Motorola CPU.
@KiwiHelpgeek
@KiwiHelpgeek 5 років тому
ARM originally stood for Acorn RISC Machines until Acorn started going under the '80s. ARM and RISCOS were spun off before the company went tits up at which time it became Advanced RISC Machines . Apple had tried an ARM CPU in the Newton and, while the Newton was a dismal failure like the Lisa, they could see the possibilities and and bought into the company.
@davidbonner4556
@davidbonner4556 5 років тому
Your historical dates are off by a decade... "Core" memory was developed during the 50s, not the 60s... The Space Race and Integrated Circuit developement occurred during the 60's, not the 70s. The first microprocessor, the Intel 4004 was developed as a controller for military jets in the late 60s and the later 8008 was used as a traffic light controller and was also the first really programmable hobbyist chip. The first "personal computer" kit came out in 1972 using yet again an updated CPU, the 8080. PC history did not start in 1982 with the 8088 and the IBM PC (NOT the 8086 as you imply)… There was a full decade of computers like Altair, Imsai, NorthStar, Compupro, Cromemco and more on the Intel side. There were a few Motorola 6800 based systems and of course the 6502 based systems like Apple, Commodore, Atari, etc. for the hobbyist before then.
@JohnSmith-qy1wm
@JohnSmith-qy1wm 5 років тому
While you are correct in most counts (the Space Race decade being a particularly egregious error), Linus does not claim or imply the 8086 was in the IBM PC. He says the IBM PC processor used the x86 architecture. Perhaps his wording was not the most clear, but "it was gonna become the de facto home computer architecture...thanks to its use in the original IBM PC" doesn't make sense otherwise.
@kensmith5694
@kensmith5694 5 років тому
Core was still in common use into the 1970s. There was a huge installed base and a lot of industrial stuff used computers based on core memory. Phone exchanges used core memory till quite late in the change over.
@tummygang6070
@tummygang6070 5 років тому
ken smith and john smith. what a coincidence
@kensmith5694
@kensmith5694 5 років тому
unhappyjap: It happens all the time IRL because the name is so common. Waaaaay back when people took what they did as a last name. Bill the blacksmith became Bill Smith Bill the tinsmith became Bill Smith Bill the silversmith became Bill Smith Then as people migrated into the US Bill Xyjotulblometretski became Bill Smith Then when slaves got freed in the US. Bill the slave became Bill Smith
@kutzhu
@kutzhu 5 років тому
and will smith became The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air
@juhakopman2430
@juhakopman2430 4 роки тому
3:10 the word Matsushita had the 'shit'-part censored in post, well played
@Naaronn
@Naaronn 3 роки тому
I don't think that was in post. It's perfectly in line, and is made of asterisks, not a censor bar. I think Wikipedia just has it censored for whatever reason.
@rhebucks_zh
@rhebucks_zh 2 роки тому
sus
@phrtza
@phrtza Рік тому
Less than 5 years later, I have my own RISC-V SBC to play with (VisionFive 2).
@MrWatchtower
@MrWatchtower 5 років тому
Burn: Risc architecture is going to change everything. Crash: Yeah, Risc is good. - Hackers
@darksamurai73
@darksamurai73 5 років тому
No shit scrolled thinking to myself "really? No hackers reference?" Lol
@MrWatchtower
@MrWatchtower 5 років тому
It's a movie quote from Hackers. Angelina Jolie and Johnny Lee Miller. Good movie.
@StrixyN
@StrixyN 5 років тому
I wondered how far I would have to scroll for this comment. Not as far as I thought.
@mephInc
@mephInc 5 років тому
I hope you don't screw like you type. . . .
@radishpineapple74
@radishpineapple74 5 років тому
Thank god for this. Closed-source ISAs need to die, especially CISC ones like x86. x86 is burdened with needing to have backwards compatibility; it has glaring security issues like its backdoor Intel Management Engine (IME, or for AMD their PSP) which, theoretically, means that Intel (or national governments) could see everything in memory including your passwords, commandeer microphones or webcams, remotely shut down your computer, etc.; there are hundreds of undocumented instructions which have already been shown to introduce various vulnerabilities; and to top it off, it's not even efficient or anything. For the above security reasons, the FSF does not recommend any Intel hardware made since c. 2008. For the sake of security, especially, it is important that people are freely able to audit not just their software, but their hardware as well.
@PHAD-tc2ic
@PHAD-tc2ic 5 років тому
You think this is true open source? Can the MakerBot story repeat? Maybe open source has become clickbate for cheap labour enthousiasts.
@AliceTheSpider
@AliceTheSpider 5 років тому
Open source is actually more secure because unlike other companies that produce hardware using open source CPU can create their own instructions, so malware using CPU instructions could just solved using updates.
@PHAD-tc2ic
@PHAD-tc2ic 5 років тому
@@AliceTheSpider But it should be made legally impossible that open source oportunistically gets closed. The ones who collaborate are shareholders and should be able to reap the fruits of the effort.
@framegrace1
@framegrace1 5 років тому
They use BSD license, so anyone can fork the code and close it. But RISC-V itself will be open. No one in the hardware business will even had looked at it if it was GPL.
@PHAD-tc2ic
@PHAD-tc2ic 5 років тому
@@framegrace1 Yes, obviously. What I was questioning however was the genuineness of their intent to keep it open source in the spirit of open source. I'm supportive of open source but not of clickbait.
@roshinparameswaran4817
@roshinparameswaran4817 8 місяців тому
First RISC V laptop is launched. Are you guys going to continue?
@needfuldoer4531
@needfuldoer4531 3 роки тому
PowerPC's Force ghost looks on in approval.
@svhuwagv2965
@svhuwagv2965 5 років тому
For anyone interested J2-Core is also very appealing when it comes to embedded applications.
@SuperOvidiuMihai
@SuperOvidiuMihai 5 років тому
quake 2 is a masterpiece god damn those hidden keys are hard to find, both on dlc and original game
@dlwatib
@dlwatib 5 років тому
It's not quite as simple as "teach the young'uns in school and they will stick with that architecture after they get out of school." My favorite architecture in college was the PDP-10 architecture. It wasn't RISC, but it was designed to be easy to program in, both for computer programmers working in the assembly language and compiler writers. The instructions were fixed length and there were versions for each operation that took either operand from memory, and it had a generous complement of registers that could be used for fixed point or floating point operands. All very well thought out, no surprises. But once I graduated I discovered that PDP-10 wasn't all that popular in the real (business) world. It was either program for IBM 360 or find another line of work, so I quickly adapted to working with that icky, legacy, not so well-thought out and rather messy architecture called System 360 with it's separate set of registers for fixed and floating point. Nowadays, of course, most people don't write in assembler anyway, they write in C or a successor high level language. But still, binary compatibility is important. People often don't have the source for programs they bought or built years ago and still depend on. Or maybe they have the source but not the compiler that understood the source. Or maybe the source is on a media that is no longer supported. These things happen. The new architecture has to find a "killer app", a new area of computing that it's good at, like x86 found with desktop computers and ARM found with with mobile phones. Otherwise the new architecture will sputter along as a mere academic curiosity. I took a quick peek at the specs at riscv.org/specifications/ and got as far as page 12. Frankly I'm shocked that they would want to teach with such an ugly little bastard of an architecture. It's got an unusually large number of 32 bit instruction formats, and they chop up their immediate values and stick them in the oddest unused corners of the instructions. It's not a clean spec at all. They have some good ideas, but the execution leaves a great deal to be desired. For a pedantic architecture this is exactly the kind of unnecessary complication and premature optimization you must avoid.
@CaptainSeamus
@CaptainSeamus 4 роки тому
RISC designs have been bounced around for 30 years at least... I remember back in the 286/386 and 68020-40 days that they were trying to bring more RISC architecture up - glad to see someone else coming up with a true reduced system. Lets hope they get it implimented.
@spicyrussianowlthothunter1044
@spicyrussianowlthothunter1044 5 років тому
But can it run club penguin hentai at 4K resolution
@astronic743
@astronic743 5 років тому
why do u get likes
@transient_
@transient_ 5 років тому
LOL
@krass76
@krass76 5 років тому
did you mean: "club penguin roblox hentai"?
@gameeaters7223
@gameeaters7223 5 років тому
excuse me what the fuck
@lfox02
@lfox02 5 років тому
Damn you, now I'm curious.
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