Not gonna lie, it seems a little clickbaity to call this car dominant when the Toyota cars beat it at 6 out of the 7 races, and finished less than 90 seconds behind at Le Mans. edit- they changed the wording of the title

Calling this car dominant is like calling the 2022 Ferrari dominant

What's crazy to think is that Giovinazzi is closer to winning the Triple Crown than Charles Leclerc

Ehh, calling it "dominant" while the Toyota GR010, THE actual dominant car that won all the race this season apart from Le Mans 24H (Of which the Toyotas got a sudden BOP change at the last minute that benefitted the Ferraris) is very misleading.

As usual with Driver61 videos not about Formula 1, we once again have to make some smaller corrections. 0:20 - The Ferrari 499p does not have 1000hp. The regulations limit the maximum combined engine output to 500kw (680hp) + - 20kw depending on BoP. So despite having a 680hp combustion engine and a 270hp strong hybrid. it does not make a combined 950hp. The combustion engine gets turned down once the Hybrid kicks in at the speed regulated via BoP. This error is later corrected, but saying 1000hp hypercar is still wrong here. 1:30 - The decision for Ferrari to join the Hypercar class was not because of the financial regulations in Formula 1. While they have helped in the decision, Ferrari themselves stated that the Hypercar ruleset was attractive for them because the expected cost was significantly lower than it was during LMP1 times. FIA / FOM later clarified that sharing information from other Programs with the Formula 1 program as a way to circumvent the financial regulation is not allowed, but I'm sure there will be some wiggle room the teams use. 2:30 - Ferrari uses a Chassis built by Dallara which is very similar to the LMDh Chassis used by the Cadillac and BMW LMDh. Visual similarities of the 3 cars can be found in air intakes on the side 5:50 - Activation for LMH is not at 190kph, but defined within the Balance of performance. Peugeot for example was allowed to use it at 135kph. I will let this point slide however, since BoP always had the Activation Speed at 190kph for Ferrari over the entire season. 6:10 - LMDh has the incorrect name. the h in LMDh has no meaning. No I can not explain why, but in every official document it is called "Le Mans Daytona h". Also that ruleset was developed by both IMSA and the ACO. 6:20 - Far bigger differences between LMH and LMDh than the Hybrid powering rear wheels or front wheels. Far more interesting in my opinion is that the LMDh Hybrid only delivers 50kw instead of 200kw. 6:20 - LMDh does not have an activation speed like LMH, mostly due to the far weaker Hybrid mentioned in the previous point. The rule for LMH Hybrid activation speed exists because there are manufacturers (Glickenhaus and Vanwall) who do not have a hybrid at all 8:40 - Correct for last season, but unfortunately Peugeot has noticed that the wingless design doesn't work on certain tracks. They have already announced to race with a rear wing in 2024 (if they have enough jokers to go through with it) 9:10 - Toyota has had full seasons worth of development in their car. 9:40 - while not entirely incorrect it is presented as a like a big misunderstanding for Balance of Performance. BoP does NOT factor in previous success in the class. It only focusses on the maximum theoretical performance in the next race with that BoP. Which is something Toyota has managed to get very close to, while Ferrari messed up their strategy at Sebring, had a brake failure at Portimao and tyres that were not even remotely up to temperature after 2 racelaps at Spa costing them almost a lap in wet conditions. 10:05 - Ferrari only lead 2 of the 4 practice sessions 11:50 - Ferrari had the issue with the starter twice, but I guess that's still more reliable than the front downforce of Toyota getting destroyed by a squirrel And finally: Le Mans was the only race Ferrari won this season. Calling it dominant is a bit ambitious. Espacially given that their small restarting issue might have cost them the lead with 20 minutes to go if Toyota hadn't messed up the brake balance into Arnage

Well their Dominant Endurance car won exactly the same number of race as their F1 car. But credits where credits due. They haven't made top class Le Mans chalanger for years and succeded in their first return. Ferrari and their 499P will be much stronger next year

Toyota literally won everything bar Le Mans, mainly due to the last minute BOP changes. The Ferrari is quick, but in what world is it dominant? Jesus the clickbait these days...

It was sure a delight to Ferrari make a comeback to WEC with a competitive and "rapid" car, however, even with BoP it was beaten by... the dominant Toyota.

I just would like to correct a small part about the aero performance window. The downforce level SCz are not measured in straight-line but in several yawed/rolled conditions.

Mazda 787B 🤝 Ferrari 499P Not winning any races except 24 hours of Le mans

Dominant? You must have been watching a different championship then us. Yes, it won le mans, but it’s absolutely not dominant

>Dominant >Won 1 race (thanks to favorable BOP and because the lead Toyota got hit by another car) Come on, the GR010 was the dominant car, the Ferrari was just there to gaslight people into thinking it was a close fight (it wasn't). It literally is just like the 2023 F1 season, one team won everything except one race which was won by a Ferrari It's basically a Mazda 787B moment

I would not call the 499p dominant during the 2023 wec season. they won 1 out of the 7 races and didnt win any of the championships, which is what really matters. the only race they won was le mans and that was because of BoP nerfing the Toyota too hard while the ferrari was seemingly unaffected by BoP. even with the hard BoP nerf, toyota's pace wasn't far off the ferraris' pace and were still in contention of winning with a slower car. it was the mistake in the closing minutes of the race that guaranteed the ferrari the win at le mans. A race car that is actually dominant is like this year's RB19

Sorry guys but this car was not dominant, won Le Mans but that’s it and that’s only because of BoP. But yes, still better than the F1 team.

it doesnt have 1000 hp lol, power can never go over the maximum defined in the bop for the car. this means it turns down the combustion engine

Are u kidding?! The most dominant car in WEC 2023 is Toyota. They won all of the races except Le Man. They were the fastest car in hypercar. Just stupid BOP interfered to won Le Man

Just teasing the Scuderia Ferrari team 😂

Are we seriously going to say that the 499P is a dominant car when it only won 1 race, managed 2 poles and 1 fastest lap... and won only because of being favoured? The 499P's hubrid system was different compared to the others since it was developed by Ferrari with F1 tech in mind. Toyota somehow got a last minute BOP change and let's not forget that if the number 7 Toyota didn't get involved in an accident with the GT3 car, the results could have been different. Saying the 499P is dominant is like saying the 787B was dominant

Hey guys. Who came up with that graphic at 7:42 ??? There’s no credit 🤨🤨🤨

1. It wasn’t a dominant car that was the GR010 from Toyota. 2. This car doesn’t have 1000HP, rules max power to 680HP.

Ferrari’s DOMINANT Race Car! (it won one race where Toyota got their usual LM luck and died, in the other 6 rounds of WEC, the 499P got curbstompted by the GR010)

Ah yes, winning 1 race in a 7 race championship because of BOP regulations: DOMINANT

The energy deployment restrictions is what holding back the Hypercar class from being a worthy successor to LMP1. Especially the 190 km/h BS.

Always great content keep it up

I dont think we watched thesame season of wec for you to call the 499P dominant 💀 Edit: Nah he didn't watch wec, these cars have 680hp but according to scott it has 1000hp lmao

9x8 to me looks the best. Just because it is so different and trying for full ground effect and no wing. Even though i placed last in the full time teams.

I stayed up to watch the whole race. Everyone in the GTP class had problems to the point where just about every car had a chance to win, if they just kept the racing clean and hope their car didn't break. Some time in morning before the sun came up, it was clear that Toyota and Ferrari were the front runners and they swapped the lead many times. I believe the Toyota was trying to catch the Ferrari in the last hour and then ran a corner wide. That sealed the deal as they were too far away to catch the Ferrari. It is worth noting that they changed the full course caution procedure at Le Mans for 2023. Previously they had 3 pace cars about equally spaced around the track. You line up behind the first one you run into to and don't pass any cars until the caution is lifted. This helped keep the running order the same and somewhat maintained gaps between cars. The new caution procedure is the same as IMSA. They line up the cars behind the 3 pace cars. When it is safe they then get rid of 2 of the pace cars and have the whole field behind 1 pace car. Next they allow cars that are not on the lead lap in their class to do a wave around and get 1 lap back. Then they reorder the field by class like they would at the start of the race. And finally they throw the green. Yup. They basically hit the reset button every time a full course caution comes out. I'm sorry but Le Mans is suppose to be prestigious. You won because you were the fastest throughout the 24 hours. Letting all the other cars catch the leader at the end and running a sprint to the finish just feels cheap. In other words, it felt like watching a NASCAR race.

Its great to see Ferrari back at sportscar racing. Im definitely not a Ferrari fan but its great to see them return. I always hoped in the LMP1 days that a brand like Ferrari would join. Now finally seeing a ferrari on track makes the already great competition in WEC even greater! Unfortunately they didn't want to race in the Rolex24 with the 499P. I would like seeing some WEC cars going to major IMSA races like the Rolex24. Maybe in the future?

Having been a major part of the Aston Martin supercar, I wonder if (assuming he hasn't retired by then) Adrian Newey would be up for building a hypercar for Red Bull for around 2029. Max has said that he might leave F1 then if it's no longer interesting to him, and there's talk about him wanting to do Le Mans, but it won't mean that he'd necessarily want to leave Red Bull. So picture a Red Bull hypercar with Max and a couple of other top racers in WEC!

499P dominant? What? I'm sorry, what?!

Oh please do more on the LMH cars, these are so vastly different from the F1, so really exciting to see more about how they differ.

Ferrari's performance is spectacular in WEC considering this is the FIRST season that they've run this car.

This is a new golden era for Wec, things you love to see

some rules seem to be cool, like that drag ratio limit, allowing cars like Peugeot to have a total different take. But just as you said, they measure the downforce in a straight line and in a wind tunnel. Peugeot's car relies heavily on the underbody of the car to generate the downforce, but then when you try to attack a curb or any bumpy track, that downforce is unreliable at all. Meanwhile, traditional fins and wings will give you consistent downforce and stability.

How is BOP good if it's subjective? Someone from the outside decides you need to add 50kg to slow you down...

The disclaimer in the title is cute be we all know you’re not talking about their F1 car😂

I think the herritage color scheme of the 963 was really cool this year

Nice video with some great thoughts and insights too! I like the video!

"Ferrari's 1000+HP monster, except it's really 900hp, and it's only allowed to use 700hp at a time, and only above 190kph."

definitely not a dominating car but its victory on le mans is some sort of redemption after so much pain in F1

A lot of the details within the video are wrong. Porsche didn’t opt to buy in a chassis it was part of the LMDh regs. The 499P only won due to the BoP changes. Needs some refinement.

Thank god you guys finally fixed the thumbnail, which you had stolen from Only Endurance, and the title which was completely false and clickbait. Come on guys, you are better than this, Ive been watching this channel for a few years now, it has always put out great content, informative, NO clickbaits, with insight from Scott. Dont ruin this, Scott, if it was you that green lit a video like this, rethink your stuff mate, if you put it in some one elses hand, then fire them

Isn’t the 120 degree bank separation impacting the under car aero, for crowding the tunnels or are they getting enough staying within the aero limits / rule?

Won 1 out of 7 Races. Toyota won 6. How was it dominant? Never disliked a video on this chanell since im watching (4 years). But I despise clickbait. So here you go, always a first.

@ 8:44 they may have noticed the Dirt Late Models here in USA. Over time they have changed the way they drive and look using the entire car as a wing of sorts but only in the corners specifically.

There is an error around 8:47 - the downforce numbers are measured across various attitudes of ride heights, roll angles, and yaw angles not "measured in a straight line". The various aerodynamic effects of the strakes at these different attitudes are accounted for in the measuring process.

@Driver61 Thank you for this video, above all because the words you used are well comprehensible by non english-mothertongue people as well!

Those longitudinal straight stickie outy bits on the top help around the corners with additional,... we should call it sideforce rather than downforce. because more "down"force isn't allowed. Right? pretty smart from an "underdog" 😊😊😊

I think LS2 will have a better season, especially after winter spent studying and learning from mistakes and driving with less adrenaline. The best thing I did for my sim driving making too many mistakes was a break and a lot of studying

Maybe Ferrari needs some of AF Corsa's team members. They can start with Leclerc's engineer. 😂😂

Surprising indeed. I only hope that some lessons have been learnt and can be applied to the F1 team as well

The B.O.P helped Ferrari a lot lets not lie

Ferrari did a great job with this car. And it also helped that circumstances aligned just right to give them the win.

You need to make more of these HyperCar videos

Best video from you in ages. Not talking down to us much like you're the only one who understands stuff and your audience is primary school kids. That's it. My comment

Ferrari in WEC: We are the champions 😎 Ferrari in F1: Box now Box for hard idc if this is the third time this race we need to last as long as possible 🤓

1:10 this is not the winning Rindt / Gregory Ferrari 250 LM, but the Surtees / Hill Rover-BRM which came 10th in 1965.

OMG You can't say that! A race car that has only been around for a year cannot be said to be dominant. It's clear that the cars that were truly dominant were those that raced in the early mid-60s, or the Ferrari 488 gt3, which has been running since 2016, or its 2020" EVO" version and the 488 gte has at least a much better career history than the 499p

I feel like ferrari will never be dominant again,people are afraid of it in f1...they remember the Schumacher days plus ferrari is huge...so it will take the focus from f1... especially now with their sucsess in WEC

Does winning a race make it a dominant car? This is a joke, because it was evident that Toyota swept Ferrari in every race except Le Man's, where the BOP difference was more than clear.

The Cadillac V-Series R will always be the most iconic LMDh to me. Like come on, that naturally aspirated V8.

Does making an inferior car that needs massive competitive parity help count as an engineering solution?

The car looks increduble. I need to watch some videos from Asetto Corsa 😊

Good video but I have one little note: Maximum downforce is a good rule but the minimum drag isn't. Cars like the Peugeot would be way more efficient if they don't have to put draggy elements on their car. Same with Ferrari. Of course you have to think about all competitors and that it's relatively fair between them but you should be allowed to use your potential to build a good car

Technically a 60° V6 has an even firing order too it just sacrifices some crankshaft durability to get there

What is a power cycle @11:59?

Almost didn't win Le mans. In one of the last pitstops the 51 I believe failed to start and sat in the box. After some nerve racking moments got it to move and continue the race.

Ferrari was on a roll last year Frikadelli also won the 24h at the Nürburgring in the Ferrari 296 GT3

They had VERY favourable BOP at le man's because it was an anniversary..

I too value a nice wide v angle and as well as a hot v.

Hey scott, I've followed you since 2018, i wanted to say thank you for being my coach and teacher on racecraft, going from the sim to some trackdays per year. Your channel is one of the best since then in terms of coaching and entertaining and i'm glad you've made great achievements with your several other channels including the spanish version. Also i got a question, would you consider making a video of how to coach someone? My friend got his first sim and i'd try to coach him taking your videos as a reliable guide. Thanks again from mexico.

More people need to be talking about lemans

F for the no wing Peugeot design, you will be missed

Hmmmm seems like a lie based off the first sentence or two

Are there specific reasons why F1 doesn’t use similar rules for limiting downforce/drag?

So what you are saying is get AF Corse to manage the F1 Team.I am good with that👍😁

I appreciate the insight into the LMH car. Genuinely, that was cool information about engine development, regulations, etc. I think you did well to cover Ferrari's potential motive here as well. That being said, I do not get your angle here. Drawing the journalistic angle of "this is a dominant car!" when they still got crushed by Toyota is a unique choice. This car won as much as their very NON-dominant F1 team.

BOP. Only 3 letters you need. The ACO got their fairy tale ending.

They must've switched out the spaghetti ruler for a real set of calipers

"Kind on its Tires" can't rund Mediums in Bahrain... "Reliable" well yes, a few powercycles at Le Mans are fair game. "Dominant" did you guys watch any of the races? I hoped you'd put the 499p on the Thumbnail and pulled out a different car...

I love your Chanel and the 499 but toyota won everything but le mans so dominant os not the right word

The fact that he said it wasn't the Formula 1 car is hilariously disrespectful

It was also leading the race in spa before it crashed under the rain :(

Ferrari in F1 needs figures like Jean Todt, Ross Brawn, Rory Byrne, Andrian Newey, Gordon Murray... As well as great racers like Ayrton Senna, Schumacher, Verstapen... and test circuits like the Nürburgring-Nordschleife complete with regeneration for engineers, mechanics , driver.. every day practice, study, strategy and understand research and development of parts and telemetry data in order to return to the right direction on the winning track

Why is there understeer in the 190+ kph corners ? Just because the front two wheels are also powered at this speed this doesn’t automatically cause the car to understeer. Pls someone corrrect me and explain why it ist like that?

2:48 that is smooth i love it! Did ferrari make that?

I wonder what people are complaining about Ferrari have had less time to develop their car, and to beat Toyota at 24hrs LeMans racing shows how good the 499 P already is. Plus AF corse are a top racing team.

Yes yes yes, PLEASE more WEC/IMSA content! Heck I’ll take GT3 content too 👌

The BoP was arguably fair toyota still manage to dominate at leman same with ferrari having a balance but a win is a win they toyota pretty fair, just maybe if riyo didn't spun at the turn could be a different story.

Nice to see Gio getting some glory

Everyone's complaining about the 499P's performance and whether or not it's "dominant". I'm more pissed that they called it angular and aggressive. I mean, have they even looked at or heard the Cadillac?

Everybody gangsta until you see a Red Bull Racing car in WEC and 24hrs

Dominant? Sure bro. I’ll come back when you post about the GR010.

Why don't they try that form of regulating F1 aero, regulate the output instead of the inputs. I think that would also push the best engineering minds to the forefront.

I certainly don't like those capping performance rules, I would like to see what can happen when they can engenier the best of the best car and then the others working to beat it

I got a questiobn what is all the function of a f1 body like there is a hole in the nose pls explanation

It was such a beautiful car too, like, Ferrari nailed it in every sense, a real special car imo, it’s almost like when Ferrari know they got a good car they go the extra yard to make it beautiful, or perhaps when they know they’ve got a bad car they make it ugly

I think F1 can really learn from what WDC are doing

As a Ferrari fan and lover of the 499P. Its a good car, not a dominant one, for now atleast

Calling the car dominant is a tad over the top, but to come in with a brand-new design and pull off a Leman win after decades is still an achievement. Having another legit competitor besides Toyota and Porsche is a good thing.