Garmin EDGE 1040 Series ClimbPro in Free Ride // Beta Firmware 17.09 Testing / How-To
Переглядів 31,666
Рік томуGarmin have released the new ClimbPro and Climb Explore features into the beta stream for the Edge 1040 Series before rolling them out to the public release. If you want to get ahead of things and use these features today, you'll need to join the beta program (just a few clicks), install firmware 17.09, AND also delete and re-install the maps on your 1040 (if you're already on the latest maps). In this video I take the 1040 on the road (and on gravel) and put it head-to-head with the Edge 840. The Karoo 2 is also there as the third wheel...
Links:
How to Update the ClimbPro Feature on the Edge 1040 Series: bit.ly/3LiWtK2
Garmin EDGE Beta Program Information: bit.ly/3w8yMx9
✅ SUBSCRIBE to The GPLAMA UKposts Channel ✅
To be notified of new content: bit.ly/3aUph9W
😀 GPLAMA Channel Memberships 😀
A great way for people to support the channel: bit.ly/2CUXTaC
Links to buy Garmin Edge GPS:
Garmin Edge 540 (Amazon US): amzn.to/3moKSjX
Garmin Edge 840 (Amazon US): amzn.to/3Kq1Iqz
Garmin Edge 1030 (Amazon US): amzn.to/2Xbv71e
Garmin Edge 1030 Plus (Amazon US): amzn.to/3pXzc5b
Garmin Edge 1040 (Amazon US): amzn.to/3H0oD9Q
Garmin Edge 130 Plus (Amazon US): amzn.to/3cHj4yI
Garmin Edge Explore 2 (Amazon US): amzn.to/3CVIlUr
Links to buy Garmin Varia Radar:
Garmin Varia Radar Camera RCT715 (Amazon US): amzn.to/3wqjBQy
Garmin Varia Radar Light RTL515 (Amazon US): amzn.to/3gj7tXl
Garmin Varia Radar RVR315 (Amazon US): amzn.to/3bsm1jN
Disclosure: The Amazon links above are affiliate links. This means that, at zero cost to you, I will earn an affiliate commission if you click through the link and finalize a purchase. 👌🏼
--------------------
gplama.com
#Garmin #Cycling #GPS
@SnappyWasHere Рік тому
I wouldn’t mind if all your tech talks were outside with views like this! Beautiful scenery!
@gplama Рік тому
Glad you enjoy it! It's one of my favorite places to ride. There's also good coffee in Creswick at the 1/2 way point.
@steweymacaroon7815 Рік тому
I quite like that Garmin shows the climb sooner, gives you a bit of time to look at it before the effort starts
@gplama Рік тому
Having the climb shown on the maps before getting to them is brilliant.
@steweymacaroon7815 Рік тому
@@gplama waiting on my 840 to give this a go properly, looks like the courier has pinched it though... Thanks for the great video as always 👍
@infocuslearning Рік тому
Yes, it was worth testing the native Garmin data in the “Bermuda triangle”. Well done! I agree that the 1030+ ought to get the ClimbPro update as I paid good money for mine only a year ago!
@peterhart3898 Рік тому
I'm looking forward to seeing this in action on my next ride. Thanks for the info. I was thinking exactly the same thing with the VS Commodore. 😊
@KellyanneGill Рік тому
Glad u mentioned the older Garmin units
@stephenprice4739 Рік тому
Totally agree the climb pro should have been made available to 1030plus 530 and 830 users. Amazing countryside you have on your doorstep. 😊
@erikmiller7166 Рік тому
I’ve got the beta version firmware, and the new map must have automatically updated, because climb pro worked for me this morning! Thanks for the great vids Shane!
@jssaylor Рік тому
After watching yesterday's videos I tried to update my 1040 firmware thinking the new features were available. Thanks for clearing this up.
@jimpeyton1459 Рік тому
With the 1040 Solar now retailing at just USD 20.00 more than the Edge 840, it's a matter of desired screen size and available button. I have to say the Climb Peo update for the 1040 is pretty convoluted. Thanks for the spin in the forest Shane.
@kenvjensen Рік тому
Amazing production with outdoor ride and embedded synchronized screens.
@gplama Рік тому
Glad you enjoyed it! It takes a bit of work behind the scenes but it does result in a nice looking video/ride.
@AlbaTech Рік тому
Glad you voiced publicly what 1030 Plus owners have been saying - Garmin have taken a big 💩 on customers who have spent a lot of money on previous gen devices that are still more than capable of taking the ClimbPro and OS updates.
@TheITNerd Рік тому
And copy and paste that for 830 users.
Рік тому
@@TheITNerd and the Explore 2 users. Let's say that the E2 is a fresh device (9 month old), with the new UI and ClimbPro feature. But as I know this far not will be updated with this feature.
@uk-expat Рік тому
Hear hear on the 1030 Plus comments! Completely agree.
@drelby6670 Рік тому
@ have E2 and this is not a Good news. I hope not true!
@stuart3901 Рік тому
That’s why I dropped Garmin for Karoo! Tired of the crap that Garmin does. I would at least rather pay for a software update than a new head unit.
@charlesstorey8425 Рік тому
Another informative video. Looking at pricing in the UK and you can get the 1040 solar for only £70 more than the 840 solar. That's a smaller difference than between the 1030 and 830 a few years ago. Once climbpro anywhere is in full release on 1040 rather than beta then the 1040 solar looks like a better buy. Nice to see you testing out in the forest. Looking outside here and it's windy, cold and raining like a monsoon. Back to Zwift then for today here.
@kekkonenprkl Рік тому
You can find the 1040 Solar even cheaper than that. Many places selling 1040 Solar just 10-20€ more than the 840 Solar. Also several places selling the non-solar 1040 actually cheaper than the non-solar 840.
@michwoz Рік тому
Garmin Explore 2 should get this, as it fits the purpose and name of the device perfectly. But I guess it's too reasonably priced for it.
@raysephton9784 Рік тому
Hi Shane, excuse my limited computer knowledge. A step by step guide would be great on how to, Uninstall Maps and the Re-install Maps, in Garmin Express. Thanks
@andreabuono9693 10 місяців тому
Hi and thanks for the very well made video. I would like to know if it is possible to use this function instead of the 'classic' climb feature during a routed ride. I really like it!
@WowRixter Рік тому
Love how you never assume that things work the way manufacturers tell us. BTW are the fields on the Garmin devices part of map datascreen or the ClimbPro datascreen?
@benoittheminerandgamer 9 місяців тому
PLZ tell us more about the real battery life on the non-solar version.
@gplama 9 місяців тому
By all reports it’s excellent. Not something I have any hands-on with myself.
@batchmotorsport Рік тому
Gunna need a review on the sick VS
@gplama Рік тому
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@SergejGrabun 9 місяців тому
Hi, How do you get a map view displayed on the smaller unit? I have 540, but I cannot find a layout with the map visible like yours. I often find myself on a climb which goes left or right and I have no idea where to turn without what you have on the screen. Thanks
@philippedeloge7582 Рік тому
I fully agreed a subscription type of upgrade should be proposed by Garmin. I have the 1030 Plus and can't afford to change GPS every 2 or 3 years!
@edmyouthcouncil Рік тому
Beautiful ride and analysis of the ins and outs!!;! Any insight if you think this will trickle down to public beta for Edge 1030 Plus?
@gplama Рік тому
Unlikely.
@drelby6670 Рік тому
What about Explore 2 ? Will be receiving this feture as well??😮
@benoitarteau2078 9 місяців тому
Now the firmware 17.29 is avalable. Is this new version change something for the 1040?
@mg6263 Рік тому
Have Garmin stated whether they will push that capability to the 830 down the line?
@hrplbg Рік тому
Might have just been me but I couldn't change the 2 data fields on 1040. I had to change them using the app. Also, it's not necessary to delete your map if there is a map update available. Which was my case. My map wasn't the latest so I had an update available and did not have to delete my old map.
@gplama Рік тому
Good point if you're behind in map updates! 👌🏼
@ivanporada8634 Рік тому
Hi Shane brilliant stuff as always. I was just wondering. Is there an option to turn OFF the climb pro freeride and use climb pro the old school way with the preloaded route? In case I want it that way.thanks
@gplama Рік тому
Yes, you can configure ClimbPro to be: Always on. During Routing Only. Off.
Рік тому
Will ClimbPro only work with a Garmin supplied Cycle Map or could works with another Digital Elevation Map (DEM)? Great video 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
@gplama Рік тому
Good question that I don't know the answer to sorry.
@hzt3n0 9 місяців тому
at 7'06" you show your Garmin with 4 screens: Top is navigation, middle is climb pro, lower 2 are grade & Power. HOW can I set up that screen? I only have climb pro with 2 data fiels (%&power) but no navigation. Would be great!!!!!
@OrdinaryBlokeOnABike Рік тому
Hi Shane, how are you able to do a screen recording on the 1040 please ?
@syazwanabdull4835 Рік тому
Nice lovely
@janjansen6263 Рік тому
Why is showing real time gradient so difficult? I would a assume a tilt sensor like in a phone would do the trick (with some smoothing and offset)
@kcfwpi1 Рік тому
Can map updates be delivered OTA, similar to firmware, or only via Garmin Express and cable?
@lovecycling193 Рік тому
Shane have you heard if Wahoo are working on a similar function? After all the new Bolt maps have elevation preloaded🤷🏻♂️
@gplama Рік тому
Yep. I'm across it. I'll post about it when it is released.
@lovecycling193 Рік тому
@@gplama that's great to hear! I wasn't sure if wahoo would! I love my little Blot V2 so fingers crossed it works well, when they do eventually release it?
@vidaasana Рік тому
Do you know if it is possible to have the old Climb Pro screen without the map? The layout with the map makes the grade and remaining ascent too small for me to read. I very literally upgraded from the 1030 to the 1040 because that data was in larger font on the 1040. Thanks for your always amazing videos, I'm very grateful. 🙏
@lalohdz9 Місяць тому
Hello! Did you find a solution? I have poor vision and those small numbers don't help me. Regards
@ricecrash5225 Рік тому
Is the Garmin 840/1040 worth upgrading from the Wahoo Elemnt Roam ?
@PedroTD Рік тому
Wow, now Climb Pro reports the climb when it actually happens. Thanks !
@gplama Рік тому
ClimbPro has always worked well with routes if the data it was given is accurate. Garmin do need to take into account bad/incorrect data and adjust it accordingly.
@tillquist Рік тому
How do you get the menu "Climp explore" on the screen ? I´am on the Beta firmware 17.09 Can´t get to work 😕
@wpelaez97 Рік тому
Hey shane, 4iiii just released a new firmware for the precision 3, wondering if u planning on updating your old video soon?
@gplama Рік тому
I'm hesitant to spend time producing another video on it. The data now looks a lot better with 1.2.0.
@KerenWang Рік тому
This reminded me fo something a bit off-topic. I have not missed a beta/alpha of the 1030plus right? The Music control feature still hasn't been pushed?
@gplama Рік тому
Media control widget is only on the x40 and Explore 2.... as far as I'm aware.
@ftj8279 10 місяців тому
Out of loop but which camera model do you use? GoPro? The picture looks so sharp and clean.
@gplama 10 місяців тому
Yep. GoPro.
@ftj8279 10 місяців тому
@@gplama The Hero10/11 Series? Cheers Shane!
@Ni1zz Рік тому
So now Karoo looses because of shorter battery time
@krzysiekyo71 Рік тому
Hey Shane! do you have any knowledge on when this climbpro anywhere feature will arrive to 1040 as a working product, not a beta-test? Does garmin shared any official date? Thats a bit annoying the top bike computer from them is a bit back comparing to 840-540 series...
@gplama Рік тому
No indication. I agree it’s not ideal pushing the newer units ahead and keeping the 1040 on beta. Although a lot of the new Garmin cycling products are pushed out too early and everyone has to do their final testing for them.
@markusramstein3886 2 місяці тому
Why in earth is the font for remaining ascent etc. (the three values) in the middle so small and can‘t be adjusted? There is so much white area left.
@pattysmith5924 Рік тому
on the climb compare example starting @6:48 (steep start of climb) your garmins registered negative grade all the way up until 7:18 after you were already over it. That is serious serious lag.... 30-secs basically the Garmins didn't know the grade %
@warren2717warren Рік тому
Am I right in saying that with the new climb feature, there’s now no need to upload Strava segments? Or if you had a Strava segment that was say exactly where the climb is, which would kick in?
@gplama Рік тому
I believe the Strava Segment will also kick-in if you have those enabled. Strava segments are human created/administered.
@peters8504 8 місяців тому
Hi 1030 plus users. I feel very disappointed as well. Just contacted Garmin customer service to directly express my dissatisfaction. I suggest you do the same if we want to change something. Cheers
@Philkaua Рік тому
Hi, will this updated climb pro function work with any other maps, not Garmin's for example OSM?
@gplama Рік тому
I haven't tested this.
@nkuesal Рік тому
Is it possible to use Garmin route planner as a virtual training if paired with a smart trainer? (i.e elevation will make you work harder)??
@gplama Рік тому
Yes. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/pY-JbGiloZuAmX0.html
@taff3935 Рік тому
For the avoidance of doubt no went up Sa Calobra this morning. I use the latest beta version on my 1040 solar. The ClimbPro segment ended about .3km downhill from the top. Totally useless. Garmin need to sort it
@Popcorn_Rider 9 місяців тому
Does climbpro in freeride work out of the box now?
@gplama 9 місяців тому
If your Edge 1040 is updated, yep.
@vidkulovec1519 Рік тому
hi, I have a question: Can you have ClimbPro without planing a route on explorer 2, just like on 540/840? I am in between buying Explorer 2 and 840 and is a big price gap... thanks for help.
@gplama Рік тому
There has been no indication from Garmin they'll be making this new ClimbPro 'Free Ride' feature available on the Explore 2 GPS.
@paulwhitfeld4858 Рік тому
So just checking, you have to swipe down select a climb and then ride it? It won't just pop up if I'm heading towards a climb like Karoo? 🤷🏻♂️
@gplama Рік тому
That's only to access Climb Explore (to search around for climbs manually). ClimbPro Free Ride will pop up any time the road you're on head upwards (and is long enough and steep enough to be considered a climb).
@paulwhitfeld4858 Рік тому
@@gplama ta great, thanks 😋 looking forward to trying ⛰
@mustafagurubey 3 місяці тому
Hello, I am a Garmin 540 user and I cannot use the climbro. I would be very grateful if you could help me, thank you.
@petesmail1 Рік тому
has the NEW climbpro been introduced formally for the 1040?
@gplama Рік тому
Yes
@petesmail1 Рік тому
@@gplama thank you for your response
@MrCairnsbryce Рік тому
So between the 840 and the 1040 which one would you recommend to upgrade from the 530
@gplama Рік тому
If money isn't a factor and you don't mind the bigger unit, 1040 all the way. This video shows how much more of the map can be shown on screen. On the same note, the map screen + MapDashboard ConnectIQ data field = just brilliant. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/gHOTa4V9gaeGy2w.html
@throx Рік тому
Not a lot of money more. The 1040 is on sale at the moment at a few places for $795 (AUD), which puts it only barely more expensive than an 840.
@MrCairnsbryce Рік тому
Ordered it, now to sell the 530
@elsellodesalomon Рік тому
necesito saber como grabas la pantalla del Garmin 1040 ?? que yo sepa el Garmin no tiene ninguna opción de grabación de pantalla, no? por favor, me podrías decir como lo haces para grabar la pantalla de tu Garmin edge mientras pedaleas?
@gplama Рік тому
It's a hidden menu option on the beta firmware only. It'll record a screenshot ever 500ms. It's horrible... but better than nothing.
@andrewbackhouse5828 Рік тому
Any guess when this will be in general release (not beta)?
@gplama Рік тому
I'd take a guess of at least a few weeks. Maybe a month.
@fabianmolyneux2308 Рік тому
By any chance do you have a step by step guide on how to delete maps and join Beta. I realise this should be Garmin's job, but there's nothing supplied by them, which is extremely tardy and speaks of the regard they hold their customers, many of whom I'm sure are longstanding and long suffering. Again, great work on your part and I can appreciate you're probably garmined out by now
@gplama Рік тому
Joining the beta how-to is in a link in the video description. Map management is via Garmin Express on Mac/PC. It's pretty straight forward when it's loaded and connected to your Edge via a USB cable.
@fabianmolyneux2308 Рік тому
Thanks Shane Garmin Express is only giving me a Reinstall option on maps and no deletion. I’m hoping the reinstall will be all that is required. The Beta join up was straightforward Thanks Fabian
@PedroTD Рік тому
@@fabianmolyneux2308 You need to be patient. I had to reconnect to Garmin Express 2-3 times after agreeing to the Beta. I now have 17.09 (and going out to test it right now) !
@fabianmolyneux2308 Рік тому
@@PedroTD thanks. You're right. I calmly persevered and all came good
@nienkerk1 11 місяців тому
It sounds like the 840 is faster than the 1040 when it comes to processor speed, can anyone confirm?
@gplama 11 місяців тому
No notable difference when using them. If we could find out how to get into diagnostic mode maybe we could find out a little more about the differences. The basic benchmarking apps in ConnectIQ don’t reveal any differences (although those tests are limited).
@pmcmpc Рік тому
Even though this is a feature they could easily roll out to the x30 series, including my 830, I'd still buy a 1040 if it didn't have such gigantic top and bottom bezels. They make it so unwieldy. Solar's a price discrimination gimmick rather than a useful feature 99% of the time, so I don't want it or a device that shares its gigantic bezels.
@AussieInJapan Рік тому
Do you have to plug the Garmin into a computer still? Can’t update via mobile?
@gplama Рік тому
Firmware will update over the air. Maps require USB -> Garmin Express.
@AussieInJapan Рік тому
@@gplama thanks mate. Might move from Wahoo Bolt to the 840 or 1040.
@michaelellis405 8 місяців тому
Cannot work out how to delete my maps and download them I have firmware 18.23?
@gplama 8 місяців тому
You have to use the Garmin Express app on Mac or PC. The Edge needs to be connected to the machine via USB.
@michaelellis405 8 місяців тому
@@gplama I did plug it into my Mac and open Garmin Express but couldn’t find how to delete the maps within Garmin Express
@gplama 8 місяців тому
Hmm. Can you go into map management and unselect the already selected/loaded regions?
@michaelellis405 8 місяців тому
@@gplama ok I didn’t try that thank you.
@michaelellis405 8 місяців тому
@@gplama Thanks Shane I’ve managed it now I was looking for a delete button and not deselect and update. Great channel by the way clear and concise information.
@irwankhill Рік тому
how do you record the screen?
@gplama Рік тому
There's a hidden menu within beta firmware on x40 devices. It'll save a screenshot every 500ms. It's a real pain to record and incorporate into videos. :/
@irwankhill Рік тому
@@gplama yep. I tried the secret menu. No screen recording. Should we all using beta firmware, then? 😁 Thanks for responding.
@thedownunderverse Рік тому
Will this feature come to the edge explore 2?
@gplama Рік тому
No indication from Garmin it will.
@thedownunderverse Рік тому
@@gplama dagnabbit! Woulda been sweet.
@fabianmolyneux2308 Рік тому
I'm on a windows PC and there are no instructions at all from Garmin on steps to take in prepping Edge 1040 to use Climbpro anywhere. So it's totally flying blind. There is nothing on how to delete maps etc. Disappointing and frustrating that an operator like Garmin can be so inept. I imagine right now there would be more Edge 1040's out in use than the just released 540 & 840. ARRRGH!!!!
@gplama Рік тому
They have outlines it in their beta program posts: forums.garmin.com/beta-program/edge-1040-series/f/announcements/330004/edge-1040-series-public-beta-17-09---live-important-note-in-change-log
@ozgurinsan Рік тому
1030 should get the update too.
@gplama Рік тому
The 1030 was released in August 2017. It might not have the power under the hood to handle the new features.
@ozgurinsan Рік тому
@@gplama maybe it does we cant be sure until we test it :)
@thedronescene7474 8 днів тому
I am honestly considering moving to Wahoo. I am just sick and tired of Garmin never adding features to “old” devices ( 1030 and 1030+ ). They claim those devices do not have the power to free ride climbers pro but somehow they can free ride sharp corner warning? BS.
@obikedog Рік тому
Imhe that gradient display is non-intuitive and somewhat useless. I understand as gradient % decreases the display shows a down slope. But the rider is still going UP the hill, not down. So rather than see a downslope, I'd rather see the climb presented as it is on Veloviewer (and all other course analysis software.) So if I were to design this, the climb presented would show the contour of the hill, not the gradient. Especially since color is used to represent the latter anyway.
@o0o0o0o0o01 Рік тому
Seems amazing that a hardware company such as garmin can still ship units in 2023 with that wonky software. I hope someone at Garmin realizes how much potential they give away to competitors (in terms of software). Garmin Connect could be so much more but yet they choose to not do anything with it. crazy
@grobbosixtyone Рік тому
Garmin has always been good on hardware but crap on software
@ayowser01 Рік тому
Garmin: "Here's a new feature - that requires accurate grade representation - that the 1040 doesn't currently have!" 😅
@jkilarski Рік тому
You need to copyright that anywhere, anytime
@gplama Рік тому
I'm sure I'll be served with legal documents from Germany for using that term at some random point in the future. I'm rightly screwed if the Wahoo Summit update includes chevrons in any form. 🤣
@jkilarski Рік тому
@@gplama great stuff Shane as always. Thank you for doing what you do.
@pedalandojunto Рік тому
O
@aw7945 Рік тому
No reason to buy the new 840… 1040 is around the same price. Lol
@taff3935 Рік тому
The gradient lag issue is huge. Never mind climbpro. 1030 was fine, 1030+ and the 1040 are rubbish. They know it but wont fix it. Beta versions are no better. Garmin will take a hit on customer loyalty. i’m amazed you and DCRainmaker have not escalated this. Very odd. Those of us that live in hilly areas have been ripped off by garmin.
@gplama Рік тому
I’ve contributed feedback on this issue.
@taff3935 Рік тому
@@gplama thanks. Then I’m amazed garmin are ignoring us as customers
Shane Miller - GPLama
Переглядів 26 тис.
Shane Miller - GPLama
Переглядів 107 тис.
ЮМОР ICTV - Официальный канал
Переглядів 271 тис.
hromadske
Переглядів 282 тис.
DC Rainmaker
Переглядів 105 тис.
Shane Miller - GPLama
Переглядів 42 тис.
Jon Maloney Cycling
Переглядів 22 тис.
Zavyalov Cycling
Переглядів 844
Shane Miller - GPLama
Переглядів 45 тис.
GURYEV TIME 2
Переглядів 66 тис.
Будни ММА
Переглядів 2 млн