Illegal Super Bike | So Fast It Was Banned!

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Have we finally found the first carbon fibre monocoque UCI-banned superbike which can topple the time of a modern road bike? The Hotta has Tour de France Prologue Victories and Olympic Medals to its name and we've got not just one, but two of these very special machines to pit against a brand-new Canyon Aeroad. But there's a twist, one of the Hotta's is kitted out in full retro-guise, but the other, is a modern take, assembled with cutting-edge components to blend the two worlds into one. Could this create the ultimate mix of modern efficiency with old-school aerodynamic madness? There's only one way to find out!
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0:22 - The Retro Bikes We've Ridden So Far
02:19 - The Route For The Challenge
03:14 - Riding The Hotta
09:06 - The Modern Canyon Aeroad Competitor
12:54 - How Fast Is A Modern Hotta?
14:26 - The Results
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@gcn 19 днів тому

Have you ever wanted to kit out a retro bike with modern components? What would you choose?

@___Bebo___ 19 днів тому

I'd like an old purple Panasonic road frame with Campag down shifters and groupset. Haven't gotten around to building it, don't really have a good use for it.

@truthseeker8483 19 днів тому

I did.....modern drive trains are a game changer..as are modern tyres and sealed bearings. What brand is the Carbon fork on the retro Hotta?? Is it 1 inch?

@zevrobins905 19 днів тому

i have a absolute fantastique tokerr u-district single speed built built but the now-defunct seattle bike company. it has a flip-flop hub and i spin-out at around 48.25km p/h (30mph). i am 100% torn between restoring this cool old-bike with lightweight, modern parts, or buying a new fixed-gear and upgrading the heck out of it.

@___Bebo___ 19 днів тому

@@zevrobins905 Just get a Wabi bro, the Reynolds 725 steel for 450 bucks is a no brainer. That bike is either Hi Ten steel or non butted CroMoly which is basically the same thing, it for sure has a Hi Ten Fork. The Wabi feels like a race bike from the 1980s, but even lighter and more stiff in the seatstays.

@DavidCasebeer-wf8by 19 днів тому

I have done this. I took my 1977 Mercian Professional (185k miles) had Mercian rejig for 11/12 from the original 125mm. Outfitted with Record 11 and Eurus wheels. Dropped 1.8 kilos to 9.8 for the bike. What did I feel, better shifting and that's about it. Still smooth and stiff and fast. But I am 69 rather than 22.

@ivordavies1828 21 день тому

I had one of the last Hotta TT's in 1999. It had Mavic Mektronic, Zipp carbon cranks and Hed 60mm Deep Wheels. All done in clearcoat so the carbon showed. It was not just a bike, it was a work of art as well. I miss that bike!

@JibbaJabber 21 день тому

😢

@the318pop 20 днів тому

I had one of the Linda McCartney team bikes, super rare FIR trispoke and Hed disc. Why oh why did I sell it.

@gcn 19 днів тому

Ooo sounds like an epic machine 👌 Why did you get rid of it? 😢

@death2pc 15 днів тому

So. You tossed it for the constant next "latest, greatest". It's all the bike, nothing more. Focus on the bike only. ps: I just bought some "aero" chain lube and I can attest.... It IS faster. Really. I swear.

@JibbaJabber 21 день тому

'Bit of a speed wobble'😮 @10:20 Explains why Ollie didn't turn up - change of kit required!

@richardhutchings1980 20 днів тому

Looked really scary didn't it?

@Shayzare 9 днів тому

I thought it wasn't gonna end well when it started to wobble wobble!! 😵‍😵‍

@pkeppler6249 21 день тому

Old frame with modern components and fit ideology 👍. Love it! More, please!

@Mainsail333 20 днів тому

Might call it a Resto-Mod

@gcn 19 днів тому

That would go split opinions though! Should you keep it classic or change things up?

@arekb5951 16 днів тому

@@gcn I mean, if it's YOUR bike, do whatever pleases YOU

@RyTrapp0 5 днів тому

@@gcn The automotive & motorcycle worlds will let you know when they've come to a conclusion on that question lol

@TheRJAD 4 дні тому

@@gcnI expected a detailed view on the GCN tech channnel of the “new” Hotta

@sportydavek1590 21 день тому

I still regret sellling my Metron TT bike. It was very similar to a Hotta but finished in bare varnished carbon and was simply beautiful.

@curtisducati 21 день тому

I have seen a few of them come up on daft Ebay , last one was about a year ago , rare bike ..

@gcn 19 днів тому

We've all got one that got away! 🤣 Would you ever pick another up, or has that ship sailed?

@stephenmackay9762 7 днів тому

A true work of art, I got mine with a 24k gold Olympic symbol just under the seat, the only one ever made. Sadly I do not take it out much as it turns too many heads, I do not think I have ever taken it out and not been stopped. Who else has this type of Metron bike?

@sportydavek1590 7 днів тому

@gcn - that ship has sailed. The reality is that it always looked better than it rode. The rear brake never worked. It was tricky in cross winds (I remember the rear wheel lifting off the ground in a strong gust once) and it wasn't that light or stiff. The pros were that it made the perfect TT bike noise, especially with a disc wheel and looked amazing.

@halnorwood6978 21 день тому

Simon Aske who designed the bike and owns it, now makes brilliant steel frames. Love mine!

@letsgetdoing 19 днів тому

Just looked him up, his work is sick. Thanks!

@lordraiden5398 21 день тому

Love seeing these old carbon bikes from my youth. The best bike I have ever owned was in my mid 20's. Polished clear coated Vitus 979 aluminum. It had a Shimano 105 group set with a beautiful perforated leather, titanium rail Selle Italia Flite seat. Loved that bike. Nothing I have had since compares. Would love to build one with a modern groupset and wider tires. Oh and a waxed chain 😊

@bwri9081 20 днів тому

I agree. My Vitus 979 (dark blue) circa 1989 was the most comfortable bike I have ridden. I built mine with Shimano 600 (Ultegra for those not as long in the tooth as I am). Funny, now companies are trying to get away from super stiff carbon and trying to make it "compliant". Vitus had this figured out in the late 70's and 80's.

@seraph4581 18 днів тому

Really great to have modern components on the frame for the later run. In most of these videos the limiting factors on older bikes are tires and gears. Please do these more often!

@PaulJohnson-tl9ph 20 днів тому

You guys are so entertaining, thanks keep it up!!! 🤣👍

@bmwflyfisher 21 день тому

Not a TT bike fan, but…Wow, the new component Hotta is HOT. The look of that thing is great. All of these remind me of the Trek Y mountain bike…Much later, but it was beautiful.

@lolly166541 21 день тому

It's exactly what the frame needed! Like holy wet bananas, I can imagine that that's what they've had fantasized about 30 years ago.

@gcn 19 днів тому

Hahaha you know a bike is hot when a non TT fan likes it 🔥

@LaurentiusTriarius 17 днів тому

If someone made a homage I'd probably get in line with all the other suckers 😂

@rogerbarr6988 21 день тому

How about Graham Obree interview and bike review !!!

@secretsquirrel3793 20 днів тому

Oh yes please. I really hope that Mr O has more wild ideas up his sleeve. Loved his Beastie!

@EMC2Scotia 19 днів тому

I remember seeing these Hotta bikes in Cycling Weekly, and those RTTC TT's. Great throwback video, I would suggest that Litespeed bike from this era that was a V shape for the next installment in this series

@ryangreenhow 20 днів тому

Every time I hear "Canyon Aero" I immediately think of the Simpson's Canyonero jingle. :P

@larrylem3582 19 днів тому

She blinds everybody with her super high beams, She's a squirrel crushing, deer smacking, driving machine!

@nustylehair8495 18 днів тому

Chapeau GCN thank you for video celebrating the engineering genius of Simon ASKE. The Campagola TT rear wheel on the Hokka is my Dad’s; Ken Dean, from his time trial bike from the late 80’s.I have the pleasure today of riding a ASKE steel bike…..well deserved recognition indeed for Simon.

@DJDUBED 21 день тому

I have 2 of these and a lotus 110, i love my hotta thats set up for track! Still great to ride nowadays

@gcn 19 днів тому

Wow that is awesome! Which one do prefer to ride? Hotta or a 110?

@n22pdf 20 днів тому

This is brilliant guys lovely to see this bike and a version with updated components excellent 😊 please do more of these type vids dudes❤ Pete 🚴🏻👍

@gcn 19 днів тому

Thanks Pete! Any other bikes we should check out? 👀

@n22pdf 19 днів тому

@@gcn How about Giant MCR vs Hotta ? although they are very similar..

@johnellis6944 17 днів тому

Hotta gave me one for a year in 97 or maybe 98 for racing Tri's. Terrifying in a cross wind but it was a rocket ship - I always felt that if i had better legs it would go faster - never found the point where i felt it was at its speed / aero limit. It just felt like it could always go faster. The tech for the time was incredible and that carbon fork had a titanium steerer tube. I do miss that bike. Thank you for doing this - awesome work and it's bringing back some cool memories.

@sergioleon4771 17 днів тому

I love your videos guys, so entertaining and I learn a lot from bikes, they motivate me to keep on riding! 🚲

@jed1mstr 21 день тому

I never get tired of Si's Bovine Phobia

@gcn 19 днів тому

We're not sure Si feels the same! He things it's udderly ridiculous that we keep milking the joke 😉

@simonharris5414 20 днів тому

Awesome video. I used to drive Simon Aske and Colin Lewis crazy as a Kid drinking all their tea in the shop. Always remember that bike on the wall in the old Paignton shop. I think I was loaned that Spinergy wheel for a RTC Nationals back when I was a JR. It's typical of Simon that he never boasted of the fact that he was such a skilled engineer. I was lucky to have him as my mechanic. I am currently rebuilding my dads old bike which we got from Simon.

@gcn 19 днів тому

The bike world is full of these silent cycling geniuses 🙌 Did you ever get to swing your leg over the Hotta? 🔥

@MrRNoble9 19 днів тому

@@gcn And its worth a shout out to Angus Noble who founded Carbon Design and helped make it a reality. I'm biased as his son of course. We both love the GCN show! I still have the original with the single rear stay and used to cycle it around Bristol.

@l.d.t.6327 21 день тому

I have a ghibli wheel. You won't notice much difference with the modern disc wheel: just glue a 25mm modern tubular on it. Most of the technical gains are obviously in the tires / tubulars used: you probably just went slower in the curves and that doesn't have much to do with the wattage.

@user-iv9qj9yk7j 9 годин тому

As a physics major my freshman year of college in 1989 I designed a bike on paper which was based on an arch from the stem to the rear hub. Imagine my surprise when I learned someone actually built one! The Hotta is not simply a work of art, it is superior engineering to the Lotus. An arch will resist flexion and create strength - consider a Samurai sword. I had to have one, but could not afford it until they were banned. I used mine for triathlons, where they remained legal. I upgraded to a Reynolds Ouzo Pro solid carbon fork, which resolved the flexion issues. My wheels are the original Specialized Tri spokes, which still spin forever! I added Deda Bandito aerobars and AxLightness solid carbon seat.I eventually upgraded to SRAM Red for their carbon shifters, but my crankset remains the FSAcarbon Superlight ISIS. It is an absolute rocket!

@kithinders1086 21 день тому

I love these comparison videos, keep them coming. Ventum's new One (?) has the same shape as the Hotta, you guys reckon you can get your ones on one of those? Maybe the GTN folks have already tested it and I'm missing that. Bring it to GCN!!! (you chum (retro/relics or not) make a lovely presenting duo as well)

@markjthomson 19 днів тому

Gentlemen... 30 years old is a CLASSIC, not an antique... and in learning that, I feel that also answers the question about yourselves! Stop selling yourselves short! Great vid.

@gcn 19 днів тому

Retro maybe? 🤣

@davidellis578 19 днів тому

I believe the main difference in the handling is due to the fork. I had purchased a Hotta fork for my TT bike many years ago and it was a thing if beauty, but riding on northern Ontario road, destroyed by constant frost heave, resulted in some tense moments with fork flex, so I reverted back to the Columbus steel fork. However, Clara Hughes, one of my idols, brought home to Canada a bronze at the Atlanta Olympics.

@adadinthelifeofacyclist 21 день тому

I believe the original riding position would've been designed to be riden sat right forward (on the saddle and on the, um... no-man's-land-bit) with a flat lower back, not arched round like in the GCN modern set up

@nwiniata4776 2 дні тому

I had a Hotta, - from 2003 to 2009. Black, A Road Fame - but set up as a Fixie. With Corima 4 Spoke Carbon Wheels, Campagnolo Record Pista Crank, Profile Integrated stem and 'Bullhorn' Handlebars, and a Modolo Kronos Front Brake. It really was a bike that got better & better the faster it went...

@colinricketts1415 20 днів тому

Richard Prebble used to come to the club 10's near Cheltenham with a Hotta in the mid 90's, it looked amazing bike especially since most of us had steel road bikes with tri bars with an occasional low pro bike with a funny small front wheel .

@gcn 19 днів тому

How did the bike do up against the steel race machines? ⚙💨

@colinricketts1415 18 днів тому

@@gcn any bike at that time with Richard on it would have been a fast bike! the sound that bike made (possibly the disc wheel, but somehow it was louder than other disks) was a 10 or 15 meter warning he was overtaking. Both him and the bike were in a different league

@mommamooney 19 днів тому

Si and Ollie are like kids in a toy shop. “Whoa, would you look at that!!!”

@gcn 19 днів тому

Both in their happy place for sure 🤣

@CoreyDavey-hf8wb 15 днів тому

Lovely to see you guys filming down in teign valley, be great to see you guys do more videos down this neck of the woods.

@ThePerks2010 5 днів тому

I was eighteen when this came out, i was still getting excited about my first aluminium frame and alloys 😂 I'd have probably exploded at seeing this!

@mystoller 21 день тому

I think I am going to be sick! After racing through the 90s and into the pro ranks in the 2000s, I ended up with a fair amount of bikes that usually either got returned to the team or ended up in my parent's garage. Somehow, in the late 90s I was given a prototype bike frame that was in need of some love. The frame was all black and said Infinity on it, it was cracked in two spots and it had a missing rear wheel, a special tri-spoke number that mounted to the one-sided rear end. I knew it was a special bike but since I was missing key parts and it was cracked I caved in to my Dad´s request to clear out some of my old bikes from his garage a few years ago and guess what found its way into the bin!! I knew I was going to regret it but after watching this and knowing the full story I am really bummed!

@Chrisblottphoto 20 днів тому

Every Vid with Si is a good vid.

@michellejohnstone6106 19 днів тому

Great video brings back great memories of a bike that was so futuristic at the time. What saddlebag does Ollie have on his new Canyon?

@StuartMossTV 20 днів тому

Guys you need to get one of the beam bikes next. Either a Zipp 2001/3001, a Trek Y Foil 77 or the ultra rare LeMond Boomerang. The Zipp was the record holder for the Hawaii Ironman course.

@gcn 19 днів тому

How do you think this bike compare to the MCR?

@StuartMossTV 19 днів тому

@@gcnit looks to be built better than the MCR, because it doesn’t flex all over the place. I do still prefer the MCR from an aesthetics point of view, with its matching aero seat post etc (but then I’m probably a bit biased). As with all of this era of bikes I still wonder if they were actually any more aerodynamic? I mean most of the designs were the product of guess work and hand drawings. Maybe that’s a future video, get them ALL in the wind tunnel and measure them? 😃👍

@howardwhite5131 18 днів тому

They could try a Softride Power V.

@harrywagner3877 14 днів тому

I still have a Trek Y foil 77 . Unfortunately I'm over 80 & unable to ride any more.

@brockjennings 20 днів тому

I had a pair of Spinergy Rev-X wheels. Installing the available X-brace between the spokes made a big difference in reducing flex.

@TimR123 20 днів тому

Sheez!, That “Speed wobble” at 8:00 was insane. 😱🙀 I’ve never seen a bike look so much like cooked noodles.

@gcn 19 днів тому

Imagine riding it 😬 Talk about compliance 🤣

@TimR123 18 днів тому

@@gcn you know... that might make a good video. Maybe on the road with mounted cameras. Maybe a lab with some engineers? Show what is really going on with bikes as we roll down the road. Most of us can't visualize what is happening in 'compliance' and 'stiffness' The parts ARE moving and distorting. (Most not as insanely as in this video) and it might be interesting to see it.

@stephenmackay9762 7 днів тому

Metron, a true monocoque and an engineering marvel. As was mentioned in the video the HOTTA was made in parts and stuck together, I think they had issues splitting. The Metron on the other hand was made in one go (not stuck together).

@theoteddy9665 16 днів тому

I saw that wobble imediately😂that was pantscrapping indeed😂

@crusherbmx 15 днів тому

I was riding in 1993 and this bike WAS radical, but it wasn't alien or anything, it doesn't look any crazier than some of the 1984 Olympic bikes.

@user-tm4iy8mv7c 20 днів тому

Such a beauty in deed. How about a BP Stealth? Or a BP2 Stealth? These run in the same group as the Hotta. So cool. I have a BP2. It’s mostly for my wall. I have used it in the 12 hour ultra world championships for just under an hour just to say I did. Since then it stays on the wall. Beautiful. Really nice program! Cheers!

@veloman59 19 днів тому

Great film guys. I think I'd go for the Hotta. Mainly because I remember watching Richard Prebble winning the National 25 mile TT way back in 93 I think it was. It looked super cool then. Nice to see you use Ambrosio A8 forks on the modernised version too. I used to work for the company that produced them.

@jefffarmer9200 20 днів тому

Beautiful bike. I really dislike the way the UCI does its best to stop innovation of bicycles.

@user-li1vc2jz8g 19 днів тому

Great to see the Teign valley road on GCN.

@rbonn3880 20 днів тому

Fascinating video, gents! Mesmerized by the incredible design for the Hotta (though Ollie's Canyon is pretty sweet, too)...

@gcn 19 днів тому

Different horses for different courses 🙌 If you had to, which one are you taking home?

@billrowan1957 12 днів тому

I can't imagine the frustration of the drivers that get stuck behind a bicycle video

@AlistairLattimore 20 днів тому

Love seeing the old bike pimped out with new gear!

@gcn 19 днів тому

Always cool to see an old bike with new parts 😎

@davemoss6976 17 днів тому

Interesting conclusion that the frame matters very little compared with achieving the best body position. it would be good to see how Graeme Obree's home made frame with modern wheels and components would compare. aero factors aside one of Graeme's key objectives was to bring the feet as close as possible, hence the washing machine bottom bracket bearing. I expect the narrow bottom bracket is also more aero as well as improved power transfer.

@lanternmatt2002 21 день тому

hotta: it gets cooler from here

@edwardrissington3218 20 днів тому

I had a Specialized Epic with carbon fiber tubes, aluminium joints and forks, with Shimano Ultegra components, MavicMA6 wheels bought in Banff Canada Dec 1993. It came with drop bars with drop ins(if you know what they were.). I raced triathlons on it, I just put some Profile airstryke tri bars on it.. The first time I actually raced it was Lanzarote Ironman 1994 after which I cut off the drop ins because they were dangerous. After a move to New Zealand in 2000 I still raced it till 2010 and was still beating most modern bikes.

@dkelly7159 17 днів тому

I had one of those too. Amazing deep ruby red paint job. 👍

@billkallas1762 21 день тому

Love those Spinergy Rev-X wheels. I still have a pair, from the stone age. 19mm Conti Comps?

@stevezodiac491 20 днів тому

so have I, they aren't very fast.

@QoraxAudio 20 днів тому

12:46 Oh gawd that brake squeal! 😂😂

@ihsanulkamil1999 9 днів тому

BIKE LOOKS AWESOME ❤

@JibbaJabber 21 день тому

@16:14 Si, don't lie! You love the 'modern' Hotta because it comes in the GCN colourway. Just needs a few of these at back to finish the paint job 🔥🔥🔥🔥 #Hot

@pittviper6320 21 день тому

The flex on that front wheel! 😮🤦🏼‍♂️

@gcn 19 днів тому

Scary right! Did you catch Alex trying these wheels out over on GCN Tech 👉ukposts.info/have/v-deo/jIOYnXh7jZpk1Gw.html

@joshuajosephs5562 19 днів тому

Yet whats amazing is that Greg Lemond still owns the fastest time trial over any longer distance at TdF 30+ years later.

@dkelly7159 17 днів тому

Also Boardman still has the fastest Prologue time on an "antique" bike with a low position. So this video is basically nonsense but it keeps the sponsors happy 😂

@edwardrissington3218 20 днів тому

I also raced on 18mm tyres. For the racing season I would move from my training bike to my race bike and it was certainly twitchy at first but I would quickly get used to it.

@wiseoldman5841 15 днів тому

Looks like the 30 year old frame was clearly better with new components! So much for progress..lol

@princeedmunddukeofedinburg 21 день тому

Stunning bikes

@gcn 19 днів тому

Absolute classics 👌

@kennethgislum2073 19 днів тому

I also remember the futuristic Pinarellos ridden by both Indurain, Riis and Ulrich - especially the one Bjarne Riis threw into the field in TDF.

@adamrudling1339 21 день тому

Beautiful modern upgrade, e stay frames have a special look for me.

@seal1mas 15 днів тому

Still got my Giant MCR, such a unique TT bike, but i've given it the modern updates!!

@chrisridesbicycles 21 день тому

I love this series. Can Ollie ask his mate Fausto if he can borrow the tour 1997 Pinarello Parigina? Also, this should be taken beyond TT bikes. I'd love the see how an old steel bike with curved fork stacks up on cobbles.

@joneinarmattiasvisser6113 18 днів тому

Build up a that hotta bike with as close the same position as the canyon, same handlebars, wheels (if possible) same groupset, everything besides the frame. Then retest please.

@karlnorgaard9447 14 днів тому

As to Simon's comment, that the bladed fr wheel/ fork combo was flexy... I say, in the last few years, have we not all started riding wider, softer tires? We can always learn by revisiting the past. I have steel and carbon road bikes. I dont race or anything, but I often feel my old steel FUJI is as fast or faster than my Pinarello.

@leighdickinson8299 20 днів тому

Brilliant Lads

@user-rg5fp7ok3t 19 днів тому

The old spec machine is in effect just a snapshot, back in the last century most racing bikes evolved from week to week, month to month, very often the bike that ended the season only shared the frame and maybe wheels from the start. My '78 race bike changed paint every couple of years and went from all rounder to a pseudo low pro tt across its life. The 'new spec' Hotta is typical of that evolution, these days people change whole bikes, we used to change single parts, it was rare to find a race bike with one brand parts let alone a full groupset !

@enigma335i 21 день тому

my spinergy wheels had braces between the carbon spokes to provide stiffness that seem to be missing on these, not surprised they were flexing like crazy

@lunam7249 20 днів тому

mine have aluminum blades under the inside of the carbon blades, 8 per wheel😳, nice

@9psi 20 днів тому

Next you can try the rmit superbike (which may have become BT??) Was good to see the updated components. Much better comparison

@amanahmed8322 20 днів тому

Still have my 1998 Hotta and Spinergy wheels.

@fuzzyfella 3 дні тому

Hotta every day of the week... I am lucky to have a custom steel monster cross bike made by Simon Aske. It is brilliant and I would recommend anyone to get one of his bikes.

@SY-ve5qm 20 днів тому

More comfortable means more speed! Antique ones are fascinating from technology history perspective but will not compete with modern. Anyway, good way to promote new bikes.

@simonstucki 20 днів тому

very interesting! So can we conclude, that bikes nowadays would be a lot faster if it weren't for the UCI limiting frame design? It seems that the only thing that improved was everything else than the frame. Imagine doing that experiment the other way around, putting the old forks, wheels, drivetrain on the canyon and also slam the position to match the Hotta, that would probably be a terrible bike.

@tangoadvance8393 19 днів тому

That looks so much better than today’s modern bikes the UCI have a lot to answer for.

@ZesPak 16 днів тому

Tbf without UCI intervention in the '30s most race bikes would be recumbents. So yeah, they have a lot to answer for.

@tangoadvance8393 16 днів тому

@@ZesPak lol,😂

@steveherring8494 18 днів тому

ollie, i know these bikes you guys are riding pretty nice. personally i think my TTbike is so much cooler. my bike is not really ready to ride. i disassemble mine in my move to AZ and just haven't put it back together yet. i think you helped me by telling me i need to have a pro set it up for me. i got the frame built and i moved the frame to maryland and hung it on the wall. the rest of the components were just so expensive i couldn't afford all at once. i put campagnolo record groupo in it. it's nice and fast. it's also a bit on the heavy side. i was out riding one day looking for stuff for the kitchen. while riding home i needed to stop at the hardware store. i was passing cars like they were parked. i took the bike into the store with me. i had this young boy talking to his father. they were talking about this bike that just passed them on the road. ok i love to show this bike off to anybody that wants to listen. i turned around and went down on one knee. i was at the youngster height talking to him about my bike. his father kinda stayed out other than to listen. i asked the young boy if he wanted to sit on it. he did and his father had to pick the youngster up and sit him on the seat. oh boy was he excited. it's got the really small or thin tires, (18mm) I usually run over 100 psi in them so I feel every pebble on the road. I really wanted you to come see it. If I had know you were riding in Tucson. I would have put it in my truck and drove down there to see you and show you this bike.

@danielburges8176 20 днів тому

A Lotus 110 with all the modern kit would be the perfect solution

@softpool1286 20 днів тому

hotta was really cool looking. would have loved to see a modern tt bike comparison along with modern road bike

@gcn 19 днів тому

Watch this space 👀 Maybe turn those notifications on too 😉

@krehme 21 день тому

I would take the Lotus, I guess just because I have fond memories of it. A friend let me borrow his for a TT. The Lotus was a blast… so smooth.

@DJDUBED 21 день тому

I own both, love the hotta as Day to day bike a bit more

@crusherbmx 15 днів тому

Talking about the aggressive riding position, roadies were so macho back in the day, 20mm or smaller tires, 13-18 cassettes, 53/42 chainrings, bars slammed as low as they can go...toe clips....it was an initiation thing I guess, and coming from BMX, it was a challenge that I struggled to meet...and never really accomplished.

@peterleffler2062 18 днів тому

At last. The old bike with the new build. I'm with Si. If go for drop bars and all the other modern kit. You might have a bit of a chimney under the bars but it would still be super cool. I'd look ridiculous on it but the bike would be cool.😂

@rccc5806 9 днів тому

Great show. Though, half in it, still no idea why it's so good. Maybe next time.

@tmill2001 21 день тому

It must have been the WAX! LOL Great comparison between old and new and components.

@gcn 19 днів тому

Waxed chain on the Hotta 💨

@bikeanddogtrips 20 днів тому

tech question idea about something i thought about several years ago and this bike prompted me as a suitable candidate. so you know how golf balls have dimples on them to improve aerodynamics? so how about very think stick on transfer patches over key areas of bikes with dimples (kind of like bubble wrap but more high tech). it would be interesting to see how much of a marginal gain this could make . how much of a difference in aerodynamics would be made when comparing the height to the position of the raised bits and would it become enough of a specialised subject to vary the height and spread of the raised bits according to the bike geometry? Benefit of stick on transfers means that they can easily be removed too if the uci does the usual.

@JollyGiant0 20 днів тому

Loved this test, well done chaps. But..... You should have also tested Oli's Speedmax too, to see the difference there!

@gcn 19 днів тому

Next time maybe 😉

@chrishophoto 20 днів тому

Interesting bike for sure! I did notice that the chain stays on the modern equipped Hotta look beefier. It would not surprise me if the layup was different as well. Most certainly the original fork combined with an old Spinergy wheel would be handful. Fun stuff!

@1ongava 18 днів тому

That fork as fast as it was, liked to fall apart and was flexi as. Shame

@michaelbaldree6821 17 днів тому

Since Campagnolo is on the old frame, you should have used Campagnolo for the new build. After all they are still making great wheels and groupsets.

@iletyouwin1 15 днів тому

You want suggestions, head to the states and just call around to random bike shops and see what they got. It's basically tradition for bike shops in the US to have a couple antique bikes with a bit of history.

@rainerkaljumae5014 20 днів тому

Please also post a build video on the modern Hotta. Would love to see the components used and the price of them.

@simonlbenson 20 днів тому

Ooooooh I see height you were going to come of when you got that speed wobble 😂

@millicentawour9482 18 днів тому

In need of your gcn 1 windbreaker, gained much from your coaching time to shine

@oldfrend 21 день тому

that speed wobble is wild. even wilder is that pros could handle that in real races. was that just cuz the carbon forks were too skinny?

@Norm0770 20 днів тому

I went back to watch the Ullrich TT bike episode and Ollie was 30 seconds quicker than on the modern aero road bike at the same power and Si was exactly the same speed. It would be interesting to the see the Walser TT bike with modern position vs a modern TT bike.

@stuartmisfeldt3068 20 днів тому

Like to see more neoclassical/retro modern bikes!

@gcn 19 днів тому

Any bikes in mind? 👀

@stuartmisfeldt3068 17 днів тому

@@gcn taking a ‘90’s steel frame (Colnago, Pinarello, Bianchi) with 130 dropouts and up grading to 11 or 12 speed with possibly wider rims and tyres. Converting an older touring or cyclocross frame to gravel with cantilever brakes, maybe 650 wheels with long caliper brakes. Using modern polished aluminum cranksets and brake sets and finishing kit, upgrade that ‘90’s frame to compact or subcompact gearing for us old farts.

@Swampster70 20 днів тому

That the Canyon with road bars beat the orginal Hotta with tribars and a disk wheel, speaks volumes for how good modern road bikes are. But the Hotta does look great.

@gcn 19 днів тому

Looks vs speed it's always a tough question... good thing Canyon looks pretty great too 👌

@overcookit1433 18 днів тому

The modern set-up Hotta is definitely awesome - on my TT bike based on a Giant Cadex CFR I also tried last year to turn up the aero clip-on bar to get the praying mantis-position, but by doing so, the handling became really shaky, so I had to switch back to the straight-forward position (like on the oldschool Hotta); that is how I ride each day! As I am very used to that position (this year I ride for nearly 20 years in that extreme position), I am sure I would be far slower on that modern Caynon road bike. #askgcntech : I have been searching the whole net, but I could not find one site which said what the weight of the bike (especially the frame) is. By the way: what tyre pressure did you use for the narrow tyres? I use 7 bar for the 20mm front tyre and 6 bar for the 23mm rear tyre (body weight 63kg at 177cm).

@tomrachellesfirstdance7843 21 день тому

Gcn in 4k!!! What do you think TT bikes would look like today if uci did not restrict the rules? Full fearing almost super(motor)bike looking bikes?

@AnvilAirsoftTV 21 день тому

Have a look at the Cadex TT bike. Made for triathlon.

@m.alih.2350 21 день тому

15:08 I don't know if you'd make this video or if you've already done it but can you make a video where you get a very fast and sporty bike and a cheap bike and swap the parts between both of them so you'll be using the parts of the good bike on the cheap frame and the other way around for the other bike ? I think that would be a fun experiment

@taxi9554 21 день тому

Would love to see a new version with modern production possibilities and parts. Or a new Trek Y Foil

@sosci8888 19 днів тому

Nice one - I've an nearly 25 years old C4 Joker with also Spinergys and it's also an really fast bike. But you can't ride it on any UCI ruled events.

@5tanw0rr311 20 днів тому

The Paragon had a Hotta owner in our ranks, a Neil Hood, must have been one of the first batch of Hotta's in carbon with yellow decals I think. Never did get a chance to ride it. I would take the Hotta with a modern twist so I could still race it in CTT events 😉. Lotus is eyewatering but but .... maybe you could do the same with the Lotus, change to modern components and then go head to head on a proper TT course...