Can We Beat A Bike So Fast It Was Banned? | Lotus 110 Vs Modern Superbike

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You asked and we listened, and we've got the Lotus 110 timetrial bike made famous by being the the fastest bike ever - so fast that every bike like it was BANNED by the UCI! But is it actually that fast? We pit it against our Superbike to see just how far aero tech has come since the dawn of space-age carbon fibre bikes!
Big thanks to Steve Grimwood for helping this video dream become a reality!
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@J.S.A. Рік тому

The prolonged look by the random cyclist when he realises it’s a lotus 😂 - a “remember the moment” moment

@johnfleming5038 Рік тому

Is that bike giving him the "jealous girlfriend meme" look (at 7:51)?

@rangersmith4652 Рік тому

You could be around lots of road bikes for decades and never see a Lotus. Then you see one, and you're not even sure you saw it. You're like, "No, it couldn't have been a Lotus."

@dibqip Рік тому

He did well I’d have fallen off

@djrlloyd Рік тому

I noticed that too. I think we’d all be like that guy😂😂

@mikewood9284 Рік тому

Or maybe he thought, "isn't that the guy from GCN? Ah yeah it is, that's why he's following a scooter and there's someone filming on the side of the road."

@bruuhhhh Рік тому

7:51 I love how that other cyclist turns his head like 'wait is that a f*cking lotus?'

@michaeljohnson254 2 місяці тому

right!!!

@almerindaromeira8352 Рік тому

It deserves an updated version with electronic shifters, new tires, lighter weight, internally routed cables and optimised ergonomics

@appa609 Рік тому

There are plenty of modern TT bikes with wild shapes like that. Look at the Ventum One or the Cervelo P5X.

@benbraceletspurple9108 Місяць тому

This shape would still be faster.@@appa609

@Nick-lm9hg 5 днів тому

And headset spacers

@georgeslammin2127 Рік тому

Ollie: "This bike... technically still holds the hour record" Ganna: "Hold my beer"

@colincarstens4074 Рік тому

And Ganna smashed it. :D

@Tamanisawesome Рік тому

Yeah Ollie's comment aged terribly

@stevedouglas3975 Рік тому

@@Tamanisawesome Yes, if only he could tell the future eh....

@MachielG Рік тому

*isotonic sports drink

@evanatkins1888 Рік тому

@@Tamanisawesome Ollie without doubt is a sports presenter without peer. Well ahead of his time.

@VIEultimate Рік тому

The owner saying "we'll talk" when they jokingly asked if they could borrow the Lotus again just gives me something to look forward to.

@johnkinder9041 Рік тому

Thank you to Steve. I have never seen Si and Ollie look so excited and happy for a whole video before. Brilliant!

@Kimberly_Sparkles Рік тому

Si dancing around like a puppy is my favorite thing.

@RichardMigneron Рік тому

Like 2 kids in a candy shop 😂😂😂😂

@CarlForde Рік тому

"fizzing with excitement" :-) :-) :-)

@appa609 Рік тому

Honestly I bet the main thing holding back the older bikes is probably the tires. The fastest road tires available today produce under half the rolling resistance of the best tubulars of the 90's. At these weights and speeds, I reckon the difference is up to 20-25W in rolling resistance.

@squngy0 Місяць тому

Probably, but then the frame isn't able to even fit the wider modern tires.

@benbraceletspurple9108 Місяць тому

It should be noted that's at an aerodynamic cost of 10-15 watts at 30mph.

@Alan_Hans__ Рік тому

A road legal (without that extra aero aid) versus a top quality triathlon legal bike would be a decent contest. It may show how much the UCI is holding back cyclists. An equal dollar value road and tri bike would also be interesting.

@ironmantooltime Рік тому

There's no such thing as triathlon illegal, everything is triathlon legal 😉

@XenFPV Рік тому

@@ironmantooltime Recumbents?

@jandl1jph766 Рік тому

The very definition of modern triathlon bikes is taking every advantage you can get without risking dangerous failures, so the Lotus 110 really marks the point where UCI legal and triathlon bikes started to diverge. Or, in other words, the modern tri bike should be faster by some margin, though I suspect that the difference wouldn't be huge - after all, the main source of drag is still the rider and it should be possible to dial in the Lotus to much the same extent as any of its modern successors.

@ironmantooltime Рік тому

@@XenFPV sure, people with no legs often do ironman in recumbents 🤟 FFS a guy with Downs raced Thursday, now he's a fncking hero 👏 Chris Nikic, you are an Ironman!!! 😎

@jascollinscork Рік тому

Ya I want to see Ollie with his “dialed in” TT bike vs the new Cadex bike 🤔🤤😍

@finestjosh Рік тому

7:50 the cyclist staring at the lotus 🤣🤣

@clintonchico9547 Рік тому

Dude nearly broke his neck.

@EMC2Scotia Рік тому

One of the coolest GCN videos ever. We are all that cyclist who turned their heads at around the 7:54 mark.

@tejashwarrana9834 Рік тому

Lol

@ikarimisu0184 Рік тому

He was like "oh wait is that a Lotus??!"

@Superstocker669 Рік тому

07:50 actually

@JKG_Brandon Рік тому

Its similar to driving a beautifully restored classic car. The head turns are worth every cent.

@Dequere9933 8 місяців тому

was about to comment the cyclist, just an epic shot!

@aarondangelo6313 Рік тому

THANK YOU STEVE! I am not a TT guy but this is such an Iconic bike. Watching Ollie and Si so genuinely excited to ride this bike, and the cyclist turning and looking. This is perhaps the best video done so far.

@gcn Рік тому

Thanks Aaron! The bike certainly a head turner.

@gioelenunziatini9415 Рік тому

7:13 "It still holds the hour record.." - That statement aged well

@michaelsigismonde7958 Рік тому

Okay, so I'm assuming that's 60 minutes then?

@chrisvig123 Рік тому

It’s actually the rider that holds that record not the bike

@swites Рік тому

Just goes to show how good Boardman's hour record was on it's sister track bike. And how good his fastest ever prologue win was on this one.

@jonglass Рік тому

That cyclist rubber-necking Olly at 7:51--Priceless! And I seriously almost had goosebumps watching this video! I can't imagine how Olly and Si felt riding that thing!

@EvySpaghetti Рік тому

I don’t know how I ended up here. I know nothing about bike racing so I only understood like half the words in this video but I love the passion you guys have for bikes! Great video!

@roberttell1587 Рік тому

Si jumping around excited to try the Lotus like it’s his first bike on Christmas morning is just beautiful.

@dctbass Рік тому

Ok, when do you do the Obree Tuck and the Obree Superman positions?! 😁 Remember, the Superman is the position Chris used when he "shelved" the Hour.

@a1white Рік тому

Si dancing around like an excited toddler at 8:25 😂

@antonlvdm Рік тому

I had a Lotus back in 99 and it was an absolutely amazing bike!! Fastest by far in its time. Well, Eddy Merckx and Pinarello also had some awesome TT bikes that I never rode, so maybe a bit biased from my side. That said, I stopped riding for many years, and then a few years back I rode a Venge Vias with Zipp 808 wheels for a couple of weeks and it was flying too. So not too surprised by the results, but still think they should move their elbows inwards on the Lotus.

@Baz520 Рік тому

Great video, and thanks Steve for borrowing the bike to let this happen 💪

@derickcastillo9083 Рік тому

Hello GCN Hello GCN I was a racing cyclist in the 80s, and a serious cyclist from the age of 15 to 36. In 2005 I got married and turned my focus from bikes to horses and have hardly thought about cycling since. I discovered your UKposts channel recently and really enjoy your videos. It is amazing to me how much technology has changed the sport! I might as well have been on a penny farthing bike or been a cast member for the Flintstones. That a regular road bike would be on the same par as a Lotus bike is incredible. Keep up the great work.

@vintagevelos9517 Рік тому

Hi Guys, love this series of TT comparison videos - if your looking for two more contenders I have a real deal ex Team Once `03/`04 Giant TCR TT bike and Jan Ullrichs `05/`06 Giant branded special order Walser TT bike, feel free to put them through their paces, Dan.

@stephennidds565 Рік тому

Its a bike that has made a place in cycling history. This thing gave birth to the evolution of modern TT bikes. Love it.

@Harry-rj6kh Рік тому

Throw out the ancient rules and let the bike manufacters build any thing they like. I'd love to see more advanced bikes coming into racing.

@appa609 Рік тому

It depends entirely how far you relax the rules. If you throw out everything other than no motors, then you get something like the Eta speedbike, which can cruise at about 100 kph on 250W and a flat straight road.

@durschfalltv7505 Рік тому

@@sathyaki does it have 2 wheels and is human powered? Thats a bike to me.

@ZesPak Рік тому

Wouldn't recumbent bikes clean house in a lot of disciplines though?

@carlholland3819 Рік тому

@@appa609 lets make e bikes that are remote control. think how fast they could go without idiots weighing them down

@inferno7181 Рік тому

@Jeff This but unironically

@w.7474 Рік тому

7:50 even bro at the back knows what's up with that Lotus bike 😳

@Twisted1409 Рік тому

I don't think he is checking out the bike haha

@Max-et4ck Рік тому

Thanks Steve!! What a fantastic way to showcase an icon. Ollie looked uncomfortable in that position on the Lotus. Maybe that was the difference? I'm surprised there was no adjustment made on that multi-position Look stem 😉 Either way, very cool video. Amazing to see how far modern road bikes have come.

@WWNSX Рік тому

Thanks Steve for making Si look like a kid waking up at Christmas and getting the present he always wanted.

@hmmboost Рік тому

"So the bike could be faster but we didn't actually do the work to do the proper test. Thanks for watching"

@josephkool6326 Рік тому

Someone needs to do another version of that frame with a modern cockpit/electronic groupsetp and wheels.

@princeedmunddukeofedinburg Рік тому

I'll do it.

@ItimDave Рік тому

The Tririg Omni is pretty close.

@andrewmcalister3462 Рік тому

It would be fascinating, and a travesty all at the same time.

@josephkool6326 Рік тому

@@ItimDave Dang it's ugly!

@MrTaxiRob Рік тому

@@josephkool6326 Z.A.P. or Mektronic vs. Etap or Di2

@daviddjerassi Рік тому

Thank you Steve and GCN a great video.

@bubblesezblonde Рік тому

1:55 Thanks Steve! Loved this vid. The Lotus speaks SPEED.

@ethangodridge6833 Рік тому

Thanks Steve, Ollie and Si for making this possible. Ollie and Si were like two brothers at Christmas fighting over the best present 😂.

@mickchaganis6607 Рік тому

Hasn't this test cemented our racing history......it shows just how amazing our Chris Boardman was and still is 💪🚀

@scottlaliberte4027 Рік тому

When he didn't crash that is :)

@mickchaganis6607 Рік тому

@@scottlaliberte4027 well how else do you know your limits 🤪

@william6171 Рік тому

Well Ganna just beat his record last night on a UCI legal bike

@mickchaganis6607 Рік тому

@@william6171 and the lotus was UCI legal at the time and technology has moved on so I believe Gannas bike and whole package is more aero than Boardman's package was at the time.......maybe proven by this GCN video.

@william6171 Рік тому

@@mickchaganis6607 oh for sure Boardmans effort was amazing. I also think it's highly likely that Ganna's setup was more aero. It shows how far aero and engineering have come that even with more restrictive regulations, todays bike setup is faster than an "unrestricted"/less restricted 1996 setup.

@chrisvandergoes2787 Рік тому

Cool series... Thanks for bringing these historical benchmarks back into the fray.

@johngannon1 Рік тому

How could you not give this vid a thumbs up? The sheer joy from both of you had me grinning all the way through!

@bryanooi8815 Рік тому

The Lotus 108 & 110 are absolute icons in 90s. I'm mid 40s now, when I talk to younger riders. I always tell them I was grown up in a era of Broadman's Lotus 110.

@douglasbooth6836 Рік тому

Let’s get Ollie doing the hour record on the lotus. The tires would make a big difference too.

@brianbrowne206 Рік тому

I tend to agree with Hambini when he says this is complete bollox.

@APSheshy Рік тому

It'd be super cool to compare the Lotus bike to the Ventum bike (since they have a similar frame, UCI-illegal design) and a UCI legal TT bike

@sodinel Рік тому

I started racing MTB with Steve when I was a kid (well, timed loops around woodland outside Ipswich), a great guy with an unmatched passion for cycling. Also find memories of Mike Burrows, seeing him racing his wind cheetah.

@leskennedy Рік тому

A guy at our local bike cafe had the road version. Always had admirers checking it out.

@darrendunn54 Рік тому

This is THE BIKE hands down no contest thank you so much for this. I actually sat on (didn’t ride!) one of the 108’s at a time trial in 1993, I’m not only the same age as Chris Boardman but also a very similar height, the position on that track bike was insane I couldn’t have breathed properly let alone pedal fast he was the best IMHO

@trevorhayes5414 Рік тому

Boardman looked so good on a bike. Totally natural like he was built to ride TT bikes.

@rogerbloom9721 Рік тому

That’s the exact reason the ergo stem is on that bike. One wrench and you can put your position where it belongs. Proper position is more than a marginal gain. You fit on the canyon and have only complained about your position on each of the time trial bikes you tried.

@MinusStatue11 Рік тому

The fun you guys have on your bicycles is why I subscribed. The love and appreciation is there.

@russbetts1467 Рік тому

Thanks to Steve, for the loan of the Lotus. I remember Chris Boardman breaking the World Hour Record on it and always wondered where it went, after the UCI banned it. I also remember the track bike.

@ericb8985 Рік тому

Got to say that the aero gain of the rider on aerobars is arguably the biggest advantage of the Lotus. It doesn't feel right to ever call such a legend outdated, but modern tech took every advantage and improved on it.

@CarlForde Рік тому

working against the Lotus is its weight. On a rolling course weight matters.

@Jayneflakes Рік тому

That was joyous, the enthusiasm of both presenters alone was worth seeing before they even got on the bike. Thanks for a lovely video.

@Pratalax Рік тому

love how stoked you guys were to ride that thing, what a beauty!! result was kinda surprising but i guess it goes to further cement BFJ's belief that you can have all the bells and whistles you like but you'll be slower if it don't fit ya!

@DominicRighiniBrand Рік тому

The conclusion is correct, dialling in your position on any tt bike will make a huge difference. If they just swapped bike, then one of the presenters could have been more compromised than the other! However what I don’t understand is why GCN keep doing these fantastic experiments against modern road bikes instead of a modern tt bike? It would be interesting to see the difference between all these bikes verses your typical modern tt kit!

@chrisjohnson9758 Рік тому

Held the human best effort and hour record... Until the day this video was released 😂 Filippo Ganna is a beast!

@waynehollard Рік тому

Thank you Steve 👍🏻 just wow, that lotus is a work of art

@tomrachellesfirstdance7843 Рік тому

9:25 stiff out the blocks...si or the bike 😂 they do look very excited Nice video though enjoyed it 👍

@oliverleibbrandt8067 Рік тому

There is a company called ventum that make a carbon copy of the lotus if you want to put those 2 against each other

@larrylem3582 Рік тому

carbon copy, hahaha!

@RAWnikon2208 Рік тому

Tension sorted out nicely you two! This time you were just giddy school kids, but I can see why! Loved it

@stug45 Рік тому

I've got a classic steel framed TT bike with 11 speed, big chainring and tubeless 25c tyres. It's got a front aero hydrobottle breaking up the stem and a high hands position. The 1" steerer tube doesn't present much to the air and the tubes aren't wide so it can't be far off how aero a modern bike with modern shapes is

@SunnyJim93 Рік тому

So cool seeing the Lotus bike in action! I don't think I've seen one being ridden before. I'd love to see a comparison between the aero road bike, a TT bike and a non UCI Triathlon type bike.

@gcn Рік тому

🤔 ummm interesting... very interesting.

@neillgibbons9964 Рік тому

Quality content fellas.

@MrBenandbriar Рік тому

Has GCN ever taken Graeme Obree’s contraptions out? Speaking of iconic moments in cycling. I doubt I was the only person who attempted the egg tuck and Superman for about 0.3 seconds. Crazy.

@huffytoss Рік тому

Rob English built a modern Old Faithful for the North American Handmade Bike Show, but haven't heard if he actually rode it.

@johnbritton2746 4 дні тому

Thx steve for loaning the bike, great video

@GIN93R Рік тому

Thanks Steve

@desroin Рік тому

I'd love to see this going up against the new Cadex Triathlon frame xD Simply because the Cadex only has a down tube and no top tube ^^

@ianlawrence4256 Рік тому

Steve very wise being there to make sure he gets his bike back!

@InHisName999 Рік тому

Averaging 55K hr. is just insane! I only ride for enjoyment and exercise. Thanks for the background on the bike since I have no knowledge of this stuff.

@adzaharmdsharipin641 Рік тому

interesting to see ollie and si have similar bike sizing and fitting on the lotus

@manueldeubler1127 Рік тому

7:50 every cyclist when they spot a nice bike

@manji001 Рік тому

@07:38 Made the other guy look! damn, that Lotus is fantastic!

@reddiver7293 Рік тому

Great video. I enjoy Ollie's engaging affect as the Richard Simmons of cycling: Acts like just an amateur but is actually in very good shape.

@torma99 Рік тому

My expectations were low, but boy you managed to fall short even from that level. I would really like to see, tge detailed gpx file, the route, and wind conditions. There is simply no way that you can be so close in any bike to a TT, only if it is a really short course with lots of corners. Just have to look the different positions. The Lotus should be at least 10 percent faster around and over 40 kph.

@jimmyhor78 Рік тому

Old tires vs modern tubeless tires. And these are amateurs not trained to hold power in the time trial position.

@ash7774 Рік тому

We just have to take their word ... No data ! No proof ! This channel is for amateurs and newbies.

@GetPsyched6 11 місяців тому

you guys do know that these are ex pro's right? They're beyond qualified. You guys are nothing but infants compared to them.

@The_High_SeAs 6 місяців тому

@@jimmyhor78I don't think they are amateurs, their ex pro I thought.

@HkFinn83 Місяць тому

Dude all the modern gear online is a sponsor. It’s basically an infomercial for this seasons kit. I don’t judge them it’s their business, but it it was it is

@karlsimpson4391 Рік тому

It’s a shame you didn’t use the top of the range tt bike from now rather than a road bike

@gcn Рік тому

Should we go back to take this bike on with the best kit we have? 👀

@kenyonmoon3272 Рік тому

@@gcn no, you need an excuse when you fail 😁

@bmwflyfisher Рік тому

Amazing looking bike! Absolutely beautiful. It would be interesting to see this bike with a modern drivetrain…12 speed, SRAM or DI with blips…It would have to be a new frame build. Bummer! No doubt technology has changed immensely.

@ttmallard Рік тому

Mike Burrows changed frame design, the sloping toptube became the 'compact frame'. From an artframe I did the seattube began vertical from the bb moves where downtube joins it above the chain rings. This while a big cutaway was stiffer than a trad diamond cut the join was about equal from headtube to rear axle, and by the tube having a big gap air rejoins behind it to be laminar flow over the top of the rear wheel. It's like overdrive, doing coast tests on club rides I drop all good bikes around 32mph/52kmh and go to ~36mph. Ymmv, great to see it ridden 🥂 🍺🍺🍺

@yeyeTF2 Рік тому

cute video love the double take by the random cyclist lol

@joegamas1194 Рік тому

Thanks Steve, for allowing us to enjoy your bike through Si and Ollie and feeling totally geeked out and at the edge of our seats waiting for the end results, thank you again Ollie, Si and Steve

@alparker24 Рік тому

Well done Steve with yet another bike from your collection!!...can also recommend his shop, Elmy Cycles in Ipswich

@stevengrimwood3723 Рік тому

Thanks Alan

@simonfunwithtrains1572 Рік тому

I just love the bit when a guy coming the other way spots Olli on the Lotus. It was like a man on a Penny Farthing seeing a someone riding a modern bike in the 1800s. Brillant

@saschawolff8368 Рік тому

What stands out for me is, that even though you invest a huge amount of money in new tech, your body position can ruin the gains you expected or the other way round that even an older bike can get quicker if you optimize your body position to it. I think overall this is good news to all leisure riders trying to improve speed / performance. Happy riding!!!

@gcn Рік тому

It's all about the Engine!

@hackfabrication139 Рік тому

As I've watched Ollie progress over the past couple of years, I'm duly impressed at his present level of fitness. Good job mate! Care to divulge just how much weight you have lost?

@Kimberly_Sparkles Рік тому

I hope he lost very little and mostly gained muscle. He wasn't carrying around much to spare to begin with.

@tarlneustaedter Рік тому

The real question is how much his beard costs him in aero?

@aksting Рік тому

Thank you, Steve! 🤩

@briangschaefer7048 Рік тому

Great video. Thanks Steve!

@urbanjungle9600 Рік тому

Makes me wonder just how fast Boardman could have gone on a modern bike! Unquestionably he was a phenomenal athlete and wouldn’t be a stretch to suggest he has deity status on a track.

@BryceJ82 Рік тому

Do guys remember the Trek “Y” bikes? I would love to see a performance test on one of those? I rode one many years ago after giving it a tune up at a shop I worked at.

@lunam7249 Рік тому

And tell how it felt!!

@imagines9688 7 місяців тому

lol that look back from the other cyclist on the road when he passed 7:49 made me laugh so hard

@conwyvalleymaze8419 10 місяців тому

Love this passionate vid……. I bought Boardman’s original Lotus Tour de France TT bike on EBay about 15 years ago. Sold by a mature Lake District friend of Chris’s farther. On line chit chat apparently cast doubt on it’s origins…… but actually totally genuine. Apart from one small evening outing ( far too big ) , but memorable for a small crowd of appreciative youngsters …….coming over saying “ nice bike mister”. Hung on wall in my Snowdonia cafe for some time…… that is until a certain young aspiring lad by the name of Ryan Mullen deserved a bit of kit to match his obvious blossoming talents ! Blitzed a number of TT’s on this steed …… wonderful sight ….. except for the one occasion I was entered in our local valley TT…… only to be total humiliated being passed by Ryan on our downhill Bodnant hill 😂😂 ! Ryan’s father, a character par excellance ……twisted my arm to part with said icon …… for which he’ll never be forgiven 😢 ever ! 😂 Really sorry to have learnt of Mike Burrows passing…… had a memorable extremely long phone conversation with him, on his passionate theories on the benefits of shorter cranks ! Thanks lads for the memory lane trip 👏

@michaeldeluca4699 Рік тому

This bike was top of the tech food chain for years and is still incredible, but this video clearly demonstrates how much tech advancement there’s been over the last 30 years. And also how it can turn two grown adults into giggling children after riding it☺️. Incredible feets of technology!!

@calv1nandh0bbes Рік тому

I’m wondering if in addition to the aero position element is there a psychological element?

@TheZweric Рік тому

they used a powermeter and can't use magic, so no, not in this test

@nwbudro9210 Рік тому

Thanks, Steve, for letting Si and Ollie ride the Lotus!

@n0tlove Рік тому

A model of those stands in the Museum of modern arts and design (Pinakothek der Moderne) in Munich along with a full exhibition about the history of bikes. You can find literally every evolutionary step, bicycles went through since their invention & ongoing there. It’s definitely worth a visit if you are around

@woolfel Рік тому

I'm a programmer and tech nerd. The lotus definitely sets off my tech nerd radar. thanks to steve

@carlohman2454 Рік тому

I generally like these kinds of videos, but it would give a lot more of credibility if you show the power data behind it all. I have a really hard time beliving that the road prosition, be it on a modern bike, is faster than the super aero position on the Lotus. After all the aero drag from the rider is by far the biggest drag component...

@fnurgas5743 Рік тому

the green at Acton Turville looking lovely as ever.

@danjames4086 7 місяців тому

Seeing this brings back memories. It also makes me wonder what a genius Mike Burrows was. Maybe now us the time for the big manufacturers to start producing machines that are not pandering to UCI standards, but are a giggke to ride fast.

@knarf_on_a_bike Рік тому

Best comparo ever! What a legend. If you could modify the Lotus by burying the cables and clean up the cockpit. I mean, DON'T DO IT - but if you could - just imagine. . .

@jimhize Рік тому

Plus electronic gears, modern tyres, and other improvements. Just imagine.

@ukdnbmarsh Рік тому

props to steve for loaning out hat is the holy grail there

@garyeanes4747 Рік тому

7:51 LOL!!!! Fellow rider going the other way CLEARLY turning his head and looking back in awe to check out the Lotus!

@horsepastedelish 9 місяців тому

It makes more sense to have the 3 spoke wheel in the back to reduce rotational mass and have the solid spokeless wheel in the front since that is where it first catches the air

@BlackyBrownDestruction9337 Рік тому

I'll buy a shirt with the lotus on it

@martincornish1737 Рік тому

Great video guys. Cant imagine how you must have felt riding the Lotus. That guy seeing Ollie, had one if those, "WTF is he riding?", moments. I'm trying to imagine how fast that lotus could be with modern components, di2, integrated hoses, modern tubes and tyres, and a more aero cockpit. It would be even more of a rocket.