Yeah, I whipped out 7 of them only to have to put them away, bloody time waste.

U now u are able to stuff it in ur pocket, when you are a boy

Never put equipment of that weight in your pockets. If your trouser rips, it could land on your feet and crush them. I always walked around with an 1000 pound anvil in my pocket and learned the hard way.

Are you ok 😂😂😂😂

Next Video: Hydraulic Press vs Water...

It's Germany or Germany in the end XD

Not surprised.All Americans can make now is credit card debt.

the Milwaukee one is actually a relabeled/rebranded NWS and is the same as being sold under NWS, Engelbert Strauss and Berner for example... I got the Engelbert Strauss Version of some of their tools at home... damn good quality... like a lot of Knipex as well

@@orctrihar Solingen.

@@derKarl_stp Irwin has NWS rebranded pliers too

Yep, made by NWS

Thank you Miranda

I want to see a Grenade crushed. 👍🏻

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I just deleted my post cause i noticed your reply about that Solingen brand (that is a city also), where i'm been visiting that company XD !!!

My country (Argentina) used to buy blades for sabres from Solingen in the 1800 and 1900 i think.

Even funnier: Check where Knipex is located in Germany and where Solingen is. ;) Knipex is producing in Solingen as well so this "Milwaukee" pliers is actually a knipex product with milwaukee branding.

There are also a lot of unknown companies that manufacture for other brands, all about advertising and commercial business. Agreements to buy the name. ...business!

@@rPaul_werner_1967 It's actually not Knipex, it's nws

@@rPaul_werner_1967 Hab mich als solinger auch gerade drüber geärgert. Gilt das eigentlich schon als kulturelle Aneignung?^^

Deutsche Qualität

Nah the knipex is just not made for electrical use, heavier and multicomponent insulation grip would be inert for this video so he chose the simplest of each. Just that knipex has that option is indeed nostalgic in a way

Deutsche Handwerkskunst

@@ichnichdu123yuki6 knipex. the nazi brand. they make weird stuff. not for me. i had a few of their stuff back in the day. its unamerican.

As a professional auto tech I only use Knipex. The quality, feel, and longevity are the best I've used.

They are manufactured by NWS, who do produce a lot for companies who print their Name on Products.

Finally, thanks!

its an imported product xD

Most of Milwaukee products are made in China (2/3) some in Canada, Germany, Czechia, Taiwan. This video is aiming to show USA products are best, but no. Hopefully they are made to a US specification rather than just rebadged. Current Milwaukee pliers are made in Taiwan.

@@jonwragg3822 the one in the video was in fact german and is a common model thats sold here...^^ just rebranded. the origin is inked on

Less the absolute distance but the relative position on the cutting blade. If the design has a mechanical advantage this should also show over just how sharp the blade is. Especially since you can just take a file and sharpen them yourself.

Just watch the video. Nobody cares about the input you have. These videos are meant to be watched, not discussed. The UKposts comment section is for sucking up to content creators and scamming everyone else, not discussing the videos.

technically it makes sense

@@looksirdroids9134 Troll much ?

YEP. i was thinking about this too. the basic "law of the lever"

This is NWS (Germany)

Solingen ist also in wuppertal. I live there😅

Just like Harley Davidson.

Knipex is also a known brand but both are from Germany

you can just read Solingen on miwaukee

The Milwaukee is obviously a rebranded NWS Combimax that is made in Solingen, Germany. The Knipex and the NWS are both at 16 Euros here in Germany. Charging almost twice the price is incredible.

That's always been my problem with Milwaukee. Nice tools but ridiculous price on their name alone.

I have always found Sheffield steel to be the finest quality, have kitchen utensil that are more than 50 years old still going strong. British quality

This is very correct and good,

Tra ding systems allow you to limit the factor of emotional influence on decision-making,,

as well as to give the trade a certain degree of systemic character..

To the newbies, you should also note that this data is worthless without an existing understanding of data analysis.

How do I get in touch with Mrs Leo Abigail ?

True, thought the same. "NWS Tools Germany" is the real manufacturer of those. They have a variaty of qualities, from cheap to really good. I think they are competing with Knippex head on. However they always have that "little extra", for example the nut grabber in the cutting bay. I got a whole set of the VDE-Version; they are truely awesome.

And Yato is a Chinese company bought by tool trading company from Poland

this video was stolen from a Russian author, here is the link, you are being deceived ukposts.info/have/v-deo/e5hngZ-baHqSlIU.html&ab_channel=crazyrussianexperiments

@@onursenturk5375 they talkinganout the Milwaukee tool

@@onursenturk5375 Just stop at 10:42 you can ez see the "Solingen" on the "US" Knife

It is not only looking, it is NWS pliers! Felo also use NWS as OEM supplier of pliers. Those unique features are patented (like Vampliers unique features, that are actually made in Japan by Engineer Inc.), so companies just pay and buy branded end product.

Haha lol

looks like Milwaukee knows where quality is coming from :D

Ja deutsche Wertarbeit

Milwaukee owner: Techtronic Industries, a Hong Kong-based company, with brands which include: Milwaukee Tools, AEG (under a license from Electrolux AB) Ryobi (under a license from Ryobi limited) Homelite , Empire Level , Imperial Blade, Stiletto, Hart, Hoover, Oreck, Vax, Dirt Devil. TTI's brand portfolio includes Milwaukee Electric Tool , AEG , Ryobi , Homelite , Empire, Stiletto, Hoover US, Hart, Oreck , Vax , and Dirt Devil. 🖐😎

Got there first this is really important as it could change the results by a massive amount

@@benco1085 yup! And another factor someone else mentioned is that the same thing applies to the nail. It also needs to be kept at a constant distance from the pivot!

Wanted to comment the same issue. If you try again with the 1970 plier with a longer distance, you will prob find same values Like for the Knipey

Who cuts nails with a pliers?

Who has a 200 Newton grip?? Brock Lesnar?

Yes how these old pliers should have been preserved instead of destroying them

@@mannnnuuu C'mon, it's not like they're from 1770...

@@MrT3odor 52 years anyway

I feel sad. It looks like my father's pliers

i know... i felt that way too. like he destroyed a part of history.......

Yeah right!? Old stuffs were made to last… New stuffs just compromise quality for a lower price. Anytime I browse people’s yard sale, I always look for good old stuff. They don’t make them like that anymore! Or you need to fork out $45 for a pair of pliers!

@@ChieflauNYC yep! I have the 1970 pliers. They were mu grandpa’s. I didn’t even have to pay $2! I try to use at least one of his tools on every project I do.

I have a blacksmiths anvil in working order from 1790. It's still close to 56 rockwell hardness after 230 years of service.

They all will last forever as long as you don’t put it under a hydraulic press😂😂😂 that is why they call it hand tools🤦🏻‍♂️ specifically designed to be used by your hands not on a freakin press😫

@@ChieflauNYC "compromise quality"? Maybe if you're using the pliers to prop up your car, but most people use pliers with their hands, and none of these pliers would break in your hands. So I think it's worth it to compromise its lifetime under a hydraulic press to have a lower price

Wanted to write the same, but it's already here. As well lever arms were different. Thanks man.

That's absolutely true. However it makes no difference if the cutting part of the plier gets damaged or not, just on the lever

The lever arms must be facored in to come to a fair comparison. Basic maths actually. Force*distance so you dont need to redo the test.

@@tamas7555 It basic physics, not maths.

@@tamas7555 the best way to test it is on the edge of the straight of the arms before they angle. And pressure should be made at an angle for maximum efficiency. Like a 21 degree angle. Like you put pressure on pliers if it is too strong to cut the less energy costing way, where the arms are edging and press straight down. Everyone can understand the pliers are way less effective there to cut though stuff and easely break if you put some muscle into it.

Also I pointed out (having used linesman pliers for 20+ years) that putting a nail or wire farther back towards the pivot will decrease the force needed to cut something. A few of the tests the nail was in different positions and farther forward will increase the force needed.

Thanks for letting us know they are from Germany.Can you tell us who makes BMW?

@@rickjeffjeff Not really, no! I'm not a car man to be honest, I'm more of a pliers type of guy!

Solingen.

@@rickjeffjeff BMW stands for Boston Motor Works 🏴󠁵󠁳󠁭󠁡󠁿 of course, or so I have been told! USA 🇺🇸 USA 🇺🇸 USA 🇺🇸 … 🤪 Nahhh… Bayerische Motoren Werke from Bavaria 🏴󠁤󠁥󠁢󠁹󠁿

yes, but ig they were nearly same distance, also torque = r X F, its cross multiplication so

i was gonna say

@@eugene9661 leverage can alter results. And they never go above and order some matco or snap on stuff..

which goes some way to explain how I broke a pair of 3 foot long (approx) manual cable shears many years ago when chopping up some cables that in hindsight might actually have been a tad too much for them - no hydraulic press required!

@@oksowhat There is only on direction of applied force so it would simplify to what the OP said.

They seemed to have the best grain structure of all. I was very impressed as well.

They were marked CRV on the handle, that's Chrome Vanadium steel, a very strong steel alloy.

@@mirandahotspring4019 True. But most of these pliers are tho.

You see on the "Milwaukee" the Name Solingen thats a region of Germany this one is Made in Germany too

In germany about 17 Dollar

@@DrFeger There is only one Milwaukee tool in the video so the OP is obviously talking about the same one.

@@krashd you dont get it, he said that the milwaukee has a made in solingen on it and thats a city in germany

Yes the Milwaukee is Made in Germany you can get it for 17 Doller. The German from Knipex is the 12 Doller and the cheapest Knipex you can get. The NWS is 17 Doller. Prices in Germany

Why is it a different story then?

Side cutters aren’t designed to cut 4mm nails. Totally agree for ‘amateur’ / diy / infrequent use budget pliers are probably sufficient, however if you’re an electrician using them day in day out got for the best / most durable you can afford.

@@jojojo9240 Maybe company pays

@rigamortice I am sure this will help make Britain great again.

@@jojojo9240 If you are someone who works for a living with these tools everyday, it´s ok to spend more in quality. But if you are an office employee who just want a plier to hold a nut or cut some wire at home, the cheaper one will be enough. Just that.

Exactly no comparable tests

If he had used expensive Polish tools and cheap German tools, the result would have been completely different. The German tool should work six times better to be profitable, but it's not.

中国没有同样价格的

AKCHOOWALLY

Agreed, fundamental to load required for failure.

I bet youre real fun at parties.

@@mcal9320 its not a party here...

As an asshole in concrete, they do a lot more than tie up junction boxes. They'll cut steel wire, steel mesh, tie wire, remove nails, and a many more fun and games.

im more concerned with the direct view of sharp nail side that could 100% penetrate your eye/cam or other parts.

Why does that matter? This is already a pointless video because no one is gonna accidentally break their pliers by applying 200 kg force on the handles.

basic physics

Verissimo

Just another test that is inaccurate, well to a degree. As for sake the best tool was the 1970 model. You are right but the quality of the alloy and thicknesses (amount) of metal used plays a role as well.

Moral of the story- China products are cheap and uses low quality material with no guarantee. Boycott China!! 💀🙏 -Voice from Taiwan

Ofcourse it's not accurate I'm sure a 2 dollar china to a 45 dollar "USA" isn't the same. It should at least be the same price if not country. It's not accurate at all to compare them.

clearly you don't need it often

Would i be cutting thick nails with a pair of pliers? No of course not! ok for cutting thin nails or wire

It's very true. I don't like China but the test must be equal.

@@tundratiger9473 Please dont mistake chinese and china for ccp. Chinese people would be 1st to celebrate if we are rid of ccp

@@tundratiger9473 I don't see China invade other countries!

@@gyurmethlodroe1774 fake ,. Chinese support ccp over 90% , report by BBC. And why say that under tools test channel

@@fungnote3312 BBC...Backed By China. CNN ...China News Network. New York Times...husband of Global Times. Washington Post...wife of South China Morning Post. WHO..WuhanfIu Hide Origin UNO...U Need Organ (transplant) NBA...National Black Arssekissers Hollywood...Propaganda wing of United Front

Made in czechoslovakia :)

Solingen is a Town in Germany! It is better known for Knifes! "Die Messerstadt Solingen"

Soligen -The city of Blades

Klein is founded by a German immigrant, so the design is based on German-made models

Eu n estava botando muita fé nele

Antes o aço era mais puro ferramentas antigas neste quesito são melhores

Cara realmente não esperava alguém com conhecimento de resistência dos materiais, eu tava pensando na falha e no limite de escoamento.kkkkkkkk

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Creo más bien que no observaste bien el área transversal de la parte que se vence y rompe. El grosor en esa parte que se corta es muy muy pequeño en comparación a las otras pinzas, sí se llega a notar el grano pero hay que poner mucha atención. Velo en cámara lenta. Es aún más sorprendente ver que una pequeña área transversal soporta lo mismo que otras con mayor área transversal.

Boom line is that anything made in China is worthless

Milwaukee parent company is TTI, a Chinese company based in Hong Kong... responsible of the design

huh

@@guillemot380 I am pretty sure the engraved "Solingen" is everything one needs to know

@@guillemot380 they're maneufactured in germany tho

There are a couple of people in the world that can generate 120 kg++ of pinching force with 1 hand. I bet if they extend the grippers that they can get something similar to those numbers.

You are right, but uhhh... This is iust some experiment pal, does not have write that essay

@@Timo-Epis ur m0mm can do it with me. Hahaha

장비를 충분하게 준비했다면 시도하지 않겠지만 만약 그렇지 않은경우 추가적인 도구를 이용해 손의 악력 이상을 가할 상황이 존재합니다. 또한 여유있는 하중범위는 반복작업과 오랜 사용에 대한 신뢰성을 확보할수 있습니다

Stfu 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲 USA for the win!!!

Yes. The Video ist missleading

As an old tool collector, I thought the same thing.

the thing about tools is this: How many times have you been in a jam or had a major problem, and something as mundane as a hand tool, rescued you? I love 'em and collect them whenever i can.

>>>DITTO

I have those side cutter pliers in my tool box. They are SOLID!! Use them all the time and now realize I'll have a hard time replacing them if I ever need to

Exactly. 50 dollar chinese made pliers are way better than the one shown in the video

@@paniniman6524 Yes of course its better then, it would be sad if not XD The point is, If ALL would have cost 50 dollar.

@Shiang Yu Yang Huawei is worth every dollor, XiaoMi electronics, DaJiang Drones, BYD Electric Buses 70% of global market share, times have changed and is continuing to change, you get the point.

@Shiang Yu Yangi think his point was that everything is made in china, we all agree the brands arent chinese

@Shiang Yu Yang 😂clown knows nothing about China

N*m 라 거리가 길이가 조금만 바뀌어도 토크값이 증가할테니 모든 공구의 거리를 같게 해서 측정해야지 이런 방식으로는 납득할 수 없습니다.

That would be more useful

Was thinking exactly the same.

Only reason why you don't see everyone in the comments going "cHiNa pRoDuCt cHeAp n wOrThlEss" Couldn't confirm their bias on this one hahahahhahaahahhaa

Also why they are all arguing accuracy of the test now. Totally predictable. So petty. Hahaha.

Well we live in a world where people should really stop using throw away products that dont last long. Also the price could also be cheap not just because of low quality material but also what the people who make them get.

A.K.A western junk. Premium pricetag for thin air. 😎

@@smarty265 the dollar goes further in many other countries. you can get better standard of living on a lower budget in China than the US. with the amount of automation throughout the supply chain the human cost is less and less relevant, it's just that China has built massive factory cities with massive economy of scale, many are not easily replicated in other nations which is why so many factories are still in China even with China being antagonized and higher labor cost than the other SE Asian nations. the US used to have factory cities back in the day when they were producing for the world, but they are now a part of the rust belt. not easy to mobilize a work force of hundreds of thousands, build an entire city ecosystem revolved around manufacturing, the bureaucracy alone is difficult for many nations. China has structured itself to reduce red tape for massive mega projects and adapted to it for decades now. way too simple to just say China products suck and cheap because cheap labor, trade would have never established there if better competitors exist. cheaper labor has not been an advantage of China for a long time now

Yeah, not at all accurate! And the Milwaukee being servicable afterwards? Maybe as a garden tongs, certainly not as pliers.

Moral of the story- China products are cheap and uses low quality material with no guarantee. Boycott China!! 💀🙏 -Voice from Taiwan

Everyone ain’t smart like Filipino peep👍🙏

@UKposts Commenter Good point. Poor quality has always been around. Though I´m not sure overall. There were no home depot shops with chinese trash offers back in the 70ies. It was more normal to repair something and not just dump and rebuy things. Maybe mantality was more quality friendly. And people asked a pro to do the job.

If you use the same price to buy the same tools, China is still the most cost-effective!

@@user-ge8dn8sc4n Yes, I personally find tools made in the Republic of China (Taiwan) to be of very high quality. However, in my branch of precision engineering, tools made in Switzerland are the actual standard... high-quality products require the best tools and materials without compromise...

I mean I don't think anybody has the strength of a hydraulic press anyway.

Why it's just an test right?

Why not? We will definitely figure out which cutters have the toughest Jaws

Nobody wants to see something they know it can cut lol that's partially the point

The "test" ist nonsense. But everyone who is watching these videos wants to see stuff crushing 😄

exactly

Смотря в каком месте

СССР

I'm not sure whether these pliers are from USSR, but they are very similar to those ones. Actually all tools and instruments were of high quality because they were made not for marketing purposes but to be used by ordinary people in everyday life. And they were very cheap.

@@romanson87 no la veo en el mapa que paso? 🤣

La risa sin razon es un signo de locura!

No es del 70 es herramienta de enfierrador los venden en la actualidad y no es para uso doméstico especialmente