Let's check with the help of a hydraulic press which wrench is stronger. Expensive or cheap
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@AleksanderArtun2 роки тому
I think, German made good quality for an affordable price.
@Mangela_Erkel2 роки тому
Cause we dont have time to find the spare Tool, we are germans. One Tool for one purpose for a lifetime. ;)
@muesique2 роки тому
@@Mangela_Erkel We are downhill. "Made in Germany" is history. The new Germans don't know about history, especially our own. Schools got really bad. Teachers have to follow standards and care more for fancy pedagogy than to TEACH children! Just one generation and we are f***ed up completely!
@yuanliwa3962 роки тому
Rusia
@Mangela_Erkel2 роки тому
@@muesique true Story bro. "Mit denen gewinnt man kein krieg"
@muesique2 роки тому
@@Mangela_Erkel ;) leider. Aber es gibt noch ein paar Perlen. Wird ein schwerer Neuanfang. Aber das gute läßt sich nicht ausrotten!
@joseffdriver84572 роки тому
It seems like some people here are forgetting this is a "let's put stuff in a hydraulic press" channel, and not a "wrench review channel".
@Stix_n_Stones4182 роки тому
@Check my about page link can’t sorry I’m blind
@johnjohnson60902 роки тому
You're absolutely right. The thing is that, once you start very clearly displaying the country this "stuff" comes from, you're obviously going to make people angry. Especially when you choose to compare very cheap "stuff" with another "stuff" that's way more expensive than the rest (and happens to be American, of course). I'm pretty sure there wouldn't have been half as many angry comments if the country those wrenches were made in hadn't been mentioned.
@dx72552 роки тому
@@johnjohnson6090 why we should care about angry people though? I will refer this video to see which wrench i want 😂
@johnjohnson60902 роки тому
@@dx7255 Because... that's what the initial comment was about... And I was merely replying to his comment.
@michaelszczys83162 роки тому
No matter where it came from or how good it was made, an open - end wrench is only good for just so much. Even the best possible quality is going to fail somewhere.
@smaragdwolf1Рік тому
The shape of the open-end wrench (Maulschlüssel in my Language) from the Milwaukee one gives it more grip compared to the rest. Thats an advantage, that makes the comparison not really fair. The others had practically the same shape. Beside that, after it boiled down to Germany vs. USA, Würth was close second to a far heavier, more than 3times more expensive Wrench. Personally, i would choose the Würth Wrench. If they add the open-end from milwaukee, it would probably be even closer. Also i have to say....there are some flaws in the comparability, since the wrenches had different angles and pressure-points while being pressed, which affects the applied forces.
@Ichbins_Tim_04Рік тому
It’s not an advantage that’s just a good design, so it’s unfair, because it was a comparison and better designing is a big point, for deciding which one’s the best.
@smaragdwolf1Рік тому
@@Ichbins_Tim_04 watch the Video again. Compare how many contact areas the wrenches have. The US wrench has far more contact and that gives it more Grip compared to the Rest. You may call it Design, but this Design gives it an Advantage. And yes....that makes it unfair.
@djbesteРік тому
Question is, if the forces here are relevant to real life? If not I would also take the cheaper and lighter German version, especially if you think about carrying a larger set.
@smaragdwolf1Рік тому
@@djbeste the max forces? most likely no. But these are Tools for all kinds of craftsman. Sooner or later, someone will use them for Tasks, that they are not meant for. So durability is important. A good Toolset can last for Decades, if treated well.
@hetrodoxly1203Рік тому
Milwaukee Chines owned for nearly 20 years and made in China. WÜRTH CHINA make their spanners.
@melsgonnakill1988Рік тому
Man, the 1920 USA wrench looks so stylish
@txgunguy2766Рік тому
A lot of things had a lot more style then.
@ziggyincРік тому
more style than substance. also that square head, UGG.
@txgunguy2766Рік тому
@@ziggyinc The square head was made to fit the square bolts that were common at the time.
@ihateeverything3972Рік тому
I hate it. Seems harder to hold on to. Takes extra space so it's harder to fit in to tight places. Most of all, it looks stupid. Modern combination wrench is better. I'd recommend a hex drive on the closed end over a 12 point, but it has to be a ratcheting design.
@ahaha8Рік тому
@@ihateeverything3972 including yourself? 😉
@trollbane662 роки тому
What you should take from this, most medium quality tools are more than strong enough if used as intended. Don't waste money on expensive tools, spend it on buying the right tool for the job.
@StoneInMySandal2 роки тому
If shear strength was the only quality criteria of a tool you’d be correct.
@jdthesexpert052 роки тому
Eh depends. If you're a tradesman you want tools that will last you through years of abuse and also have quirks that make your job a little easier. Yeah I could buy cheap wire strippers that get the job done and will last a long time but they suck the entire time I use them and make life just a little more difficult than it has to be every single time because they don't have a snug fit around the wire. Or even something as simple as a cheap temperature probe, it takes forever to get to the current temperature and when it finally gets there I wonder if I can even trust it. Compare that to a nice Fieldpiece dual temperature sensor that is nearly instant and very accurate. Better tools are definitely worth the extra money if you use them often.
@BRBingeDrinker2 роки тому
Isn't the mantra "Buy cheap once."
@milanvnuk83872 роки тому
@@jdthesexpert05 I totaly agree with you. And also even for homework I prefer better tools. My father has collected some really good tools, same like his father and he gave it to me. Now I collect good quality tools too and I will gave them to my son. Average quality tools are for average skilled guys which more likely call profesional on the job then do it by their own.
@drkastenbrot2 роки тому
@@StoneInMySandal He is correct though. Unless you routinely abuse a wrench on rusty worn bolts with a huge extension, buying a premium one is a waste of money. The medium quality (cheap but brand name) tools at my job have lasted over 20 years with no signs of wear.
@buschmaster46002 роки тому
I love how the Allen key/vise failed before the Milwaukee did. Yea... They're expensive but it's for a reason.
@rapidrrobert43332 роки тому
You have to break a few cheap tools before you understand why buying the best can really save a lot of frustration. This applies to EVERYTHING.
@TheDementedMonkeys2 роки тому
@@rapidrrobert4333 True, however there are times when it's better to have the wrench rather than the fastener fail! That's why it's always a good idea to keep some cheap, disposable tools around!
@chiefdenis2 роки тому
No one needs a wrench that strong for that much
@RingoBudha2 роки тому
@@chiefdenis Simply not true. If you use them to make a living you don't want to run to the store halfway through a suspension replacement. But I do agree for a hobbyist.
@vPhantomWolfv2 роки тому
@@chiefdenis $14 isn't even that much. Mac Tools is around $25 and Snap On is $50 for one wrench.
@WompaStompaCynРік тому
That Milwaukee is basically the phrase "if I'm going down I'm taking you with me" in the form of a wrench.
@TheMorrogothРік тому
But... It didn't go down! Lol
@TheranthropeРік тому
The vice broke before the wrench did.
@hetrodoxly1203Рік тому
Milwaukee Chines owned for nearly 20 years and made in China.
@TheMorrogothРік тому
@@hetrodoxly1203 Milwaukee tools are 100% made in the US since 1924... They are manufactured in Greenwood MS, Jackson MS, and Mukwonago WI... They just opened a new plant in West Bend WI. I think you are confused about them being bought out by Techtronic Industries...
@TheranthropeРік тому
@@hetrodoxly1203 Are you talking about the Milwaukee store-brand for Harbor Freight? Because that's a completely different company.
@angelserenadeРік тому
Hydraulic press: imma destroy these wrenches Milwaukee wrench: imma destroy this hydraulic press
@irateeverything351Рік тому
that was really impressive to me, a wrench guy
@ziggyincРік тому
They call them Milwaukee Beast for a reason.
@ilikeships9333Рік тому
It does cost 14 dollars but sure seems to be worth it for a mechanic.
@lufusolРік тому
@@ilikeships9333 ok but consider no mechanic is going to apply that much force on a hand tool unless they put a 6 foot bar on the end of it and gorilla the thing and before that ever happens they're just going to reach for the impact driver. For $4 the german tool is good enough and a way better value
@ilikeships9333Рік тому
@@lufusol true tbh I don’t think any mechanic would need a bolt to be that tight
@xj97792 роки тому
Millwauke did great it didnt open up even with this high load. But a better fair competion would be Stahlwille,Gedore or Hazet
@markperry40762 роки тому
The Milwaukee open end also has teeth and the others were just smooth. Not a fair comparison in that test.
@bonza1672 роки тому
I would have used a Snapon spanner for the USA test
@repentoryouwilllikewiseper87412 роки тому
Repent to Jesus Christ “But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me.” 2 Corinthians 12:9 NIV
@ashscott60682 роки тому
@@bonza167 Snapon is overpriced garbage
@ECReeves2 роки тому
Milwaukee is made in China now anyways.
@Hamster518932 роки тому
You see how the cheap Würth wrench did, now take a serious german brand like Hazet or Wera. As the germans say: "If you want good quality tools you have to spend some money, but if you want to inherit tools to your grandkids you take Hazet".
@drkastenbrot2 роки тому
Its Würth Red Line which is the cheap bulk line of products. I dont think Würth makes a premium line because they are not in that market.
@rlt4222 роки тому
As an American I am gratified to see the US brands win hands down but... honestly I expected the German one to win so to know that it was a cheap brand... the contest may have been rigged honestly. So... ya... I'd love to see a rematch vs higher quality tools between the US and Germany.
@louisvillaire20172 роки тому
@@rlt422 really wasn't a fair comparison for any other country, comparing a high end american wrench to cheap foreign budget wrenches
@drkastenbrot2 роки тому
@@rlt422 Its not a cheap brand, its just a good value commercial tool line. Stuff thats actually used in production because its affordable and solid. The Milwaukee wrench was almost 3x the price and comes from a "luxury" premium line of products. Arguably unecessarily strong for normal use but impressive nonetheless.
@Dave-ko3lm2 роки тому
i was hoping to see some stahlwille tools. since thats the only competition for hazet
@DocWolphРік тому
Feels sad watching old tools be deliberately destroyed, even if they had not been used in decades or ever.
@finalstarmandx6644Рік тому
To be fair to this creator, I've seen goofballs on UKposts do things like buy ludicrously rare video games just for the sake of deliberately destroying them to make fans of those games upset. At least we get some insight into the [possibly lost] material science behind the things deliberately destroyed on this channel, even if plenty are also here because big hydraulic smash good.
@AdhamMGhalyРік тому
Totally agree. Some of those belong to museums.
@alm4142Рік тому
@@AdhamMGhaly you people acting like he broke some 1820 original painting, but the wrench he broke can be purchase between 10-20 dollar on ebay, also at leats one museum already have those in stock in chattanooga.
@betraidРік тому
@@alm4142 xD what 10-20 dollar lol, u can find tools like this or even double or triple older for 5$ or so, there are thousands of tools like this ones everywhere around the world. And to be honest those are not old tools, just rusted metal. which has less than 100 years for sure.
@lunartransport5461Рік тому
If you feel bad for inanimate wrenches... just chucks of metal in a certain shape... how do you get by during the day? Do you feel bad when people have bad hair days? Or anything related to humans?
@nathanapplegate5374Рік тому
Absolutely gut wrenching to see those old tools get crushed.
@nedenburayabaktn2981Рік тому
Pun intended
@martinfeldhoff452 роки тому
I'd like to have a comparison between a Milwaukee wrench and a german Hazet or Gedore wrench. These are more of a competitor based on the price
@Ronny_van_Gerwen2 роки тому
Actually, it’s pronounced “mill-e-wah-que” which is Algonquin for “the good land”. (Alice Cooper)
@nslopes2 роки тому
But in this case it is the channel owner who would not have a comparison...
@onkeltom76572 роки тому
Stahlwille
@thecursed012 роки тому
price comparison is unfair, becasue thanks to communist regime, no real environmental standart control, concentration camp labor and more, china can always be cheaper at same quality if needed.
@eleeyah47572 роки тому
While price is probably indicative, I'd pay more attention to the geometry there. The Milwaukee wrench has an entirely different one compared to the other contemporary ones.
@darkshadowsx59492 роки тому
the real MVP here is that Allen key that survived massive torsion loads. i've seen them permanently twist or even break with hand loads.
@johncoops68972 роки тому
You wont bend or break a 17mm Allen key from a name-brand manufacturer with hand tools. Go take a look how large 17mm actually is - 16mm is the same size as 5/8"
@austinjohnson89002 роки тому
That allan was massive tho, solid brick a tungsten. Shit wouldn't bend if you told it's kids were diein .absolute unit
@johncoops68972 роки тому
@@austinjohnson8900 - yeah, 17mm hardened steel (not tungsten carbide, that would shatter). The properly engineered hex keys are incredible things - I remember the original Hex Keys and Fasteners were termed "Unbrako" (brand name) which still exists today. My dad engineered large printing presses that used them for high-stress applications, and it was amazing how long a helper bar you could put on one. They act almost like a spring, and feel very strange when you really lean on one - at a certain point they actually twist rather than snap or strip to socket. I think that the Torsional Yield on a 5/8" (smaller than 17mm) Unbrako wrench is approximately 900 ft/lb of torque, but I may have the equation/conversions wrong.
@austinjohnson89002 роки тому
@@johncoops6897 my bröther in christ I'm making an joke now *LAUGH PEASANT*
@Craigs_car_careРік тому
Iv been turning wrenches for a living for over 35 years and know from experience who's stuff is better than others but have always wanted to do a measured head to head test. Thanks for checking of a bucket 🤠 list Mark.
@reddragon60269 місяців тому
Good old American
@RuturajPatki2 роки тому
UKposts suggested me this video from absolutely nowhere and guess what, I watched it for absolutely no reason. 😅🙈 I discovered a fact that I was more keen to see what happened next for certain country's make. So, good job makers of the video. You labelled the tools by Country than by material. You know what can keep your viewers glued to your video. 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@GSIRaptor2 роки тому
Your video was interesting as always. However, torque plays a major role in this comparison. Thus, you would always have to choose the same distance to the head. In addition, the tool can do nothing if the construction fails.
@CAustin5822 роки тому
Was thinking the same thing. The torque is the important thing to measure here, not the downward force on an arbitrary point along the handle.
@artyombana80312 роки тому
this is a video of a Russian blogger, and this dude stole it
@johnsonpaul19142 роки тому
I believe the distance from the allen wrench used to the pressure point of the press never changed, so the torque on the jaws should have been the same
@CAustin5822 роки тому
@@johnsonpaul1914 It's possible that he tried to maintain the same distance, but it's still highly prone to error. Even being off by a few millimeters would have a significant effect on the results, and the way the press encounters different contact points with the wrench as it pushes down due to the wrench's shape pretty much guarantees that this won't be very accurate. It's still interesting though; not crapping on the video, just suggesting a better method.
@jrd6032 роки тому
Would it have been better to have the 12 point side gripping the hex as well. I think when the open side loses grip the load numbers may be deceiving.
@jpezzy-36532 роки тому
Milwaukee’s v groove open end and fastener grooves definitely helped it grip to the Allen key better, a little unfair to the other wrenches but shows how it helps transmit more force
@anssi22672 роки тому
I do not see it as unfair. Better design = better result.
@lawrencelazaro84002 роки тому
The Milwaukee is not comparable to the other wrenches because it is a higher tier model, they have better wrenches from those other countries as well. Taking the cheapest foreign made and comparing it to not the cheapest American made is not a fair comparison of the countries steal and design, still a good video.
@titusdaniel2 роки тому
@@lawrencelazaro8400 I mean, not really. Milwaukee is known for a lot of good tools, but in the trades they're not especially highly regarded for their box wrenches. If this was a Snap-On or something then I would agree, but anything you can just go buy off the shelf in Home Depot is not what I'd describe as "higher tier." Clearly they've engineered a good wrench though, for the price.
@titusdaniel2 роки тому
@@anssi2267 Absolutely agree. it's not just the fancy stuff like v-groove jaws, either. The Milwaukee also had the tightest tolerances for any of the "17mm" wrenches. This wasn't a contest of steel quality or national pride, but it does show that an intelligently designed and accurately manufactured tool will do better than the others
@JB-xl2jc2 роки тому
@@lawrencelazaro8400 I would not consider that a higher tier model really, it is decidedly average
@skarfacegaming243Рік тому
Sometimes this channel is the best jump scare. Things will be going smooth for most things then out of no where, something goes boom
@valyo0valentinowРік тому
Американският ключ е много по-здрав от това, което се показва! Браво, добър клип!
@cryzz0n2 роки тому
Tools come und different classes and price points in each country. A comparison of top of the line manufactures across the line would be interesting.
@YoungDaggerDick692 роки тому
$2000 dollars later
@jacko44832 роки тому
From time to time I'll go to the flea market and dig through the boxes of tools that are being sold. I have a mish mash of offset dogbone style wrenches that seem pretty good. Old but edges and corners look good. Also found some larger old US manufactured open end wrenches that have a flattened oval shaped beam. Really comfortable in the hand and they look to be machine finished after the forging. I wire wheeled those babies and gave them a rubbing with some light oil. Love the opportunities when I can use them!!
@papajohn3652 роки тому
Tools don't come in classes. They come in levels of craftsmanship, aka quality and durability. These factors set to sales markup determines the variable of price a seller assumes a buyer is willing to pay. As sellers determine their own sales markup, there is no such thing as a price point.
@Timoteusmusik2 роки тому
@@papajohn365 Tooools dont come in ClassSSesSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS klaun schat ap
@nelko76272 роки тому
@@papajohn365 thats basically classes
@silverjohn60372 роки тому
If you're a professional tradesman that uses the tools 15-20 times a day the better quality is a good investment. If you're a home repairman that uses the tools 15-20 times over the 30-40 years you own them, maybe not so much.
@robertorobertes76302 роки тому
@DrGrandpa with that price? No, thanks, Russia is the best.
@mortenfaurbyegellert95642 роки тому
Im too poor to buy cheap tools..
@vietnameseelectrician12482 роки тому
10 món hàng của Nga sẽ bóp chết 1 món hàng của Mỹ
@andybilakshow2602 роки тому
@@robertorobertes7630 have you ever wondered how they do that? Send products half way around the world and sell it for less than it could be made in your own home town? Again, imagine all the resources consumed through that entire process. Somebody's getting the shaft. There and here. In more ways than one. This whole money thing has gotten way out of control.
@andybilakshow2602 роки тому
@@mortenfaurbyegellert9564 hang in there. Help is around the corner.
@havoc1482Рік тому
That 1920s wrench is an International Harvester. I have the exact one, but the stamping is still visible. They were given out with every tractor/implement as a universal "the only wrench you'll need" to work on their equipment.
@instrumentetools-zerstorun41382 роки тому
Thank you so much for the Video. It is so hypnotising to watch. I can not STOP... 👍👍👍 UKposts is full of content where things are being build and created in an orderly way and people show off what they have got as well as what they have build and what effort they have put into it. Priding them selves. I am sick of it. It is great to see instead things being systematically distroyed and demolished in an orderly way and that to great success!!! KEEP ON GOING!!!... 👍👍👍
@TheAwesome26262 роки тому
That is the definition of “get what you pay for” Nice on the older wrenches 👍🏽
@suprematiccube70722 роки тому
Yes exactly. But, it also teaches that you need to spend money according to the tasks. For example, it makes no sense to spend more than 0.3 bucks if you cannot apply more than 75 kg of force, moreover, in many cases, this will not be needed - you will already break the thread by 50 kg.
@mytimetunnel2 роки тому
@@suprematiccube7072 but on other end the strongest will last longer in the long run if you are in a trade where you are using them constantly. better steel it will just wear less " same with knives and so on" But if you are avg Joe who uses them only when needed, then cheaper tools probably a good idea. :)
@kakaxifx49132 роки тому
China product get best cost performance
@Mavendow2 роки тому
@@kakaxifx4913 Assuming the china product doesn't contain a playhouse wrench or photograph of wrench or plastic wrench or... Well, you get the idea.
@jac12072 роки тому
The better mindset is "Will I need to use this tool a lot or on multiple occasions?" If yes, then splurge on the better tool. If you're just using it every once in a while, and the tool sits in a toolbox for months, then there's no problem at all with going to a no name cheap tool.
@williamkowalchik5722 роки тому
If I have a 100 ton hydraulic press in my garage I WILL DO THIS AT HOME. Go Milwaukee. Broke the test fixture both times and was still usable.
@tonyrichard27052 роки тому
I also have 200 ton press in corner of living room and will try this when I get home from shopping
@honeyalee20652 роки тому
ukposts.info/the/K_icgfhiCxlQuYVPW6teMg.html
@ruskw2 роки тому
It also costs considerably more than any of the other wrenches
@Crazytomm2 роки тому
@@tonyrichard2705 I have a 300 ton press in my bedroom closet. I'll try it too.
@therittzer73342 роки тому
snapon vs mac vs matco vs cornwell Do it and post I dare you. Double dog dare. *waiting patiently*
@CanDellJackРік тому
I like how even the close-in camera couldn't catch the moment when the allen wrench took off. There one frame, _completely_ gone the next.
@spb1179Рік тому
Crazy, the Milwaukee tool didn’t look like it started yielding at all. The hex stock started to visibly deflect in torsion. I bet that tool could have pushed back a lot harder than it did in the shot if the setup had been more ridgid
@robine52802 роки тому
As a German I can't stand that you chose such a cheap wrench to represent Germany
@HeyJuuu2 роки тому
Genau
@joe3USA2 роки тому
None represented America at all, Milwaukee wrenches are not made in America
@marktomlin54842 роки тому
If that is true it’s not fair.
@juni20972 роки тому
@Saul Murray there is always one
@308x57R2 роки тому
@Saul Murray Gedore or Stahlwille.
@LaoYing2052 роки тому
I am amazed that almost no one talks about the torque distance changing which makes the kg of force almost meaningless
@skipdegraff65472 роки тому
That's a ridiculous statement considering how close the length is between the various wrenches
@Kawka11222 роки тому
Bullshit. Torque and physics is conspiracy
@killerdinamo082 роки тому
@@skipdegraff6547 Try saying that after trying to use your weight on a wrench to loosen a tight nut without even a small extender 😉.
@DBKING040202 роки тому
I noticed it myself, but this isn’t exactly a real scientific experiment, it’s entertainment.
@TheXJ122 роки тому
Exactly. Look at 4:13 how the display suddenly jumps from 75 to 95 (+27%) when the contact point goes from the eyelet on the right to the stem (?) on the left
@dingchingting3110Рік тому
Great video, although as a tools lover it's just break my heart to see the tools get destroyed. Also, can I have a request to have different country's tools comparison but relatively equal price? 🤔 Just want to know which product has best cost efficient. Thanks
@marksfarmcraft188811 місяців тому
My dad was a mechanic/machinist. He taught me to buy the best you can afford, and when you really need it, it will work. I have good wrenches thatI purchased in the eighties, and they are still like new. Never let me down. This is just more proof of that.
@jeffstone79122 роки тому
Not only are the Milwaukee’s tools strong but they have a beautiful finish on them also.
@blackdogleg2 роки тому
It is a different process. Milwaukee wrench is Chromium... not a fair comparison.
@IndraVexed2 роки тому
@@Oberkommando 😂 Exactly
@lacikeri31022 роки тому
@@blackdogleg Würth is a chromium-vanadium alloy with only less material in it. With practical use, this has no drawbacks. No one will break it by hand. Milwaukee looks good. It looks like they worked hard a lot to make an even better tool, so I think it was a completely fair win.
@blackdogleg2 роки тому
@@lacikeri3102 yes Milwaukee is very good. I wonder where Grey or Snapon would fit in this.
@blackchecker20092 роки тому
@@Oberkommando thats low budged wrenches the high quality one cost 200$+
@snakeoilaudio2 роки тому
when you keep in mind that Würth in Germany is considered to be reasonably well but they are more of an enthusiast toolmaker and if you want the real pro stuff you buy Hazet or Gedore then they did pretty well.
@McKay1108Рік тому
Or Stahlwille. I never considered Würth to be serious quality, it's barely above the stuff you get in any normal home depot. It's just a widespread and easy option for small craftsman businesses. Gedore, my company only ever bought the cheap stuff, so I got a bit of a bad bias here. Is it really on the same level as the others?
@raven09r1Рік тому
Same can be said for Milwaukee. It’s not a MatCo or SnapOn. This test is fair considering Milwaukee is a box store tool brand.
@kalle123Рік тому
@@McKay1108 Stahlwille for sure, but I would also throw in Facom
@jimmurphy3287Рік тому
Wurth tools not manufactured in Germany.
@dom_raphaeloРік тому
Excelente vídeo! Quase todas as minhas ferramentas são Gedore, duram uma vida!!!
@paulchouanard718Рік тому
"Do not try this at home" Ah damn it, i was really looking forward to use my massive press on some random tools !
@petrosiliuszwackelmann88572 роки тому
naja... mit Würth wurde ja ein Schlüssel eingekauft, der bei Facom bzw. einem seiner Untermarken hergestellt wurde. Hat also so viel "Germany" drin wie "USA" in den Milwaukee-Akkuschraubern. Interessant wäre es erst dann geworden, wenn Hazet / Gedore / Stahlwille im Vergleich gewesen wäre. Aber so ist es halt immer mit diesen "Tests/Vergleichen"
@joe3USA2 роки тому
No wrenches were American made, Milwaukee wrenches are Not made in America despite the Milwaukee USA tag
@berserker8022 роки тому
da stimme ich die zu. Next Test with Stahlwille/Gedore or Hazet Wrenches
@jeromethemechanic68712 роки тому
Combo wrenches are the one tool a mechanic shouldn’t scrimp on, as they have proved here today. A rounded nut is a huge pita.
@johnathanboyd55062 роки тому
Agreed but I’d also say definitely get some knipex pliers just in case
@novachannel19812 роки тому
I wish I had me some scrimps and some cocktail sauce lmao
@jeromethemechanic68712 роки тому
@@novachannel1981 lololol you gotta try that scrimp scampi
@Airman..2 роки тому
You need it when you need it
@andybilakshow2602 роки тому
chooseng the right 'size' tool for the job is most important. In any trade. For instance, you wouldn't use an old fasion ignition wrench set to remove the lugs from your wheel. Sometimes you can go underkilt & get away with it. But the right tool for the right job always worked best for me. The cheap version tools probably belong next to the sewing kit
@noname-mx7do2 роки тому
Thank you for including my product in this video
@pe4153Рік тому
I appreciated the cutouts on the mouth on the Milwaukee. Small design feature that made for better contact
@jensschroder82142 роки тому
With the German ring spanner, the clamping of the hexagon also failed. The ring spanner could otherwise have been further stressed.
@magirus18192 роки тому
Instead of WÜRTH, a specialist in fastening technology, used a tool from GEDOR, the specialist for hand tools in Germany, for the next test.
@NoRdIcRaGe2 роки тому
Gedore ist auch nicht mehr das was es Mal war, wurde aufgekauft.
@receptayyip14102 роки тому
Yes, we also use Gedore at our BMW garage.
@neoBliZZard72 роки тому
@@NoRdIcRaGe Kommt drauf an. Habe hier einen Gedore Rollgabelschlüssel (der schon alleine wegen des Preises) nicht überzeugt (zu viel Spiel). Es soll aber durchaus noch gute Gedore Produkte geben. Ich persönlich bevorzuge trotzdem Hazet und Stahlwille.
@LokiRulz2 роки тому
Knarren hab ich egal ob gedore oder alle alle schon kaputt bekommen. Schlüssel dagegen nicht egal wie fest was war
@magirus18192 роки тому
@@NoRdIcRaGe ich habe noch einen Schlüsselsatz von meinem Großvater 😆
@ting2222Рік тому
Interesting video. But I don’t know what job I’ll need to put the wrench strength to it’s full potential. So far I have stay with the reasonable priced. It works every time. My consideration is always the one will not rust easily, which the cheapest tends to be the worst.
@nicomeier8098Рік тому
"Milwaukee was pretty awesome". It performed very well but it was also by far the heaviest of the modern wrenches, so not really a fair comparison.
@XiaoYueMaoРік тому
and the most expensive by atleast 3x, upwards of 12x in price, this video was blatantly skewed and was not a fair comparison in the slightest
@pathfinder2reality2 роки тому
Milwaukee is not produced in USA. Most of their spanners are made by Toptul in Taiwan. Wurth is also a rebrand of different companies. Some spanners and ratchets are made in Taiwan, some sockets are made in Japan by Koken. I even have some old Wurth spanners that are made by Facom.
@rickyhall17722 роки тому
Yeah, but would you really want him to test a snap on, wrench? Same performance for 5x the price.
@Rimrock3002 роки тому
Doesn't matter what country, what matters is fabrication after what spec's and design.
@pathfinder2reality2 роки тому
@@Rimrock300 I disagree. In these cases what you pay is the brand. You can buy spanners from Toptul for lower price. Same design, same quality and specs. The reason why Milwaukee is more expensive is because it is a well known brand, while Toptul is barely known and people question its quality. So for them to sell any spanners, they need to go with lower price.
@rickyhall17722 роки тому
@@Rimrock300 Actually, historically that wasn't the case. And I would say it's still true to a smaller degree today, that certain countries are happy with wider tolerances when they manufacture their tools. It's a cost savings measure, and countries that produce cheap tools can't be bothered with tighter tolerances. Also in decades past, China produced tools with inferior steels and cheaper alloys. That's largely gone today, but still worrying.
@eingenialertyp2 роки тому
For Germany is the standard brand Gedore or Hazet. The Milwaukee looks pretty hi-tech :)
@UBoooot962 роки тому
Stahlwille I am a joke to you?
@eingenialertyp2 роки тому
Stahlwille have one of the best tools for brake lines, springs and other great tools. But standard quality about wrench in Germany is still Hazet or Gedore. Is like about pliers, Hazet, Gedore or stahlwille didn't make pliers like Knipex and all other didn't make wrench tools like Hazet or Gedore. At the end is the quality from KS tools, bgs and so stuff good quality at this segment, but not standard at Germany
@nicolaspolaire62092 роки тому
Stehwill
@randomperson86952 роки тому
Milwaukee is considered a top end brand in North America but I am surprised they used it because over here, whether you're working on a little locomotive next to the Panama canal or a front end loader up in Prudhoe Bay, all mechanics day dream about having a full set of tools from Snap-On but then they curse about how much they cost and instead opt to feed their family instead of their tool addiction.
@eingenialertyp2 роки тому
@@randomperson8695 yeah, at the end chart all a lot of money.. the Milwaukee Max Bite 144 chart at Germany 100€ for 15pc / Hazet 170€ for 15pc
@swivilposter89452 роки тому
Japanese wrenches are some of the best fit wise as well as quality for metric!! Still using the same one my dad was using in 2004 when he got his tundra. And the tundra is now mine dont use any other set of wrenches
@douro20Рік тому
I really like the finish of KSK wrenches. Too bad they aren't made anymore.
@locutus9956Рік тому
this pretty much sums up the old addage of 'buy cheap, buy twice' pricier hardware usually costs more for a damn good reason!
@michaelszczys83162 роки тому
Some of the craziest wrenches I ever encountered were some weird old rather cheap open end wrenches made in India from some exotic India alloy. I used one trying to break a nut loose and it was all I had that fit so I was going way beyond all torque range but it broke one of the jaws and it sounded like a gun when it broke and I never found the jaw piece. Pure violence.
@christophermullins71632 роки тому
violence in mech. love it.
@losfromla14802 роки тому
It sounds like just a cheap wrench. Breaking under any condition isn't at all a sign of quality
@ShadowRune2 роки тому
Damn good endorsement for Milwaukee wrenches after all that abuse you put it through you still have a perfectly good working wrench at the end. Always had good luck with Milwaukee tools
@paul.g58282 роки тому
But i can't remember pushing on a wrench with a force that's over 300 kgs.
@imaginarynoise32182 роки тому
Virtually always worth the price. You'll have the same tools decades from now if they're made by Milwaukee. Every time I buy something from someone else, there is a point where it gets put to the test and I just go right back to the old solid lineup I know will hold up.
@85square2 роки тому
I heard the teeth wear out on the open end
@davidburdin66962 роки тому
Snap on...?!!!
@earlytw2 роки тому
@@85square whyle Milwaukee have theets and Smalltalk inner size they are the best on holding.
@franklinhadick28662 роки тому
Thankyou for this comparison, it would prove helpful in purchasing decisions.
@joshpring1Рік тому
You should do all the premium lifetime guarantee tools, like snap on, magnussun, bluespot etc. My bluespot ones say they're unbreakable on the packaging.
@ArnoldLokman2 роки тому
I was born in "no name". This country is quite alright.
@anthonyreed36822 роки тому
So you're a "Nonamian"?
@Marcelo-562 роки тому
"no name" is equivalent to generic: generic is without a brand name, without certification and of very low quality.
@johncoops68972 роки тому
@@anthonyreed3682 - and the material used is called "Nonamium".
@johncoops68972 роки тому
@Esphaeras Praestans - don't forget the Nonamwomen !!
@TheGoodContent372 роки тому
@@anthonyreed3682 Dude, I came to comment exactly that. Why you win? xD
@tonyvelasquez67762 роки тому
At about 9:50 you can actually see the stress energy physically causing some of the oxide layer to shear off
@itsfadixx2 роки тому
Thats cool asf
@THUNDERCAT37c2 роки тому
🤤
@itsfadixx2 роки тому
@@THUNDERCAT37c ayo
@nghiemquachРік тому
Thanks! It will be helpful if a graph or tally of the results be posted (at the end)
@gustavogutierrez31242 роки тому
Excelente comparación.
@normanvice2 роки тому
Thank you for this video. I have many Milwaukee tools. I never know how strong they are. I am very impressed.
@honeyalee20652 роки тому
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@Craigalicioususa2 роки тому
Gotta love that Milwaukee wrench didn't really bend or break, it instead broke the setup both times lol
@jakealter55042 роки тому
It was a beast
@juap2 роки тому
Because torque was applied on the side, not from the bottom as the others tools. You Can not trust this test, maybe Milwaukee its weaker, he should repeat the test using the same torque in the same spot in all of them
@Sassi79972 роки тому
Yeah, because this testing setup has a major flaw. The hex key is not correctly fixated. You can see it multiple times, not only at the Milwaukee, that the hex key jumps out of the clamp.
@codemy6662 роки тому
Because it had a different style with "teeth" in there to grip it, all the others were smooth from the inside so they slipped easier as you saw
@cspace1234nzРік тому
Would that make you spend $14 as oppsed to....whatever else ?
@gamerttx1Рік тому
It's really interesting because Würth is actually a B2B company making parts for the industry. And in engineering school you learn to be as unprecise as possible and as accurate as nessesary. This also applies to price-percormance ratio
@stephanberg7335Рік тому
The Milwaukee tool might have gotten the highest values in those test but let's not forget a few important aspects here. No person would effectively produce that high numbers so probably any of the wrenches are good to go. Further, the Milwaukee was the only one with a proper nominal size and basically any tool failed at that point cause they lost grip. Regarding the weight, probably a few tools would have outperformed the Milwaukee one as well. And most of the price tag on the American one is probably the polishing and engraving on the tool. it's still just a basic wrench using more material and made shiny.
@marc33602 роки тому
The würth is the RED line the cheap version of würth tools you have to test the zebra tools from würth
@randomperson86952 роки тому
Thanks for pointing that out, as an American tradesman I wouldn't have known that. But to be honest I guessed it from the price that it wasn't a genuine- apples to apples - comparison and a little more of a- apple to crabapple - comparison. Milwaukee is a a top end brand here in North America and considering the region's history and demographics it would've been more fun to see our Germans competing against your Germans on a level playing field price-wise : )
@kingofhelllucifer73122 роки тому
@@randomperson8695 right
@korbifa43332 роки тому
Even the Zebra tools are not manufactured by Würth. They just buy the tools from various high quality manufacturers like Facom from France and brand them with Würth Zebra. The Red Line is sometimes even imported from China. Don't get me wrong. The Würth Zebra tools are very high quality professional tools but not necessarily a german made tool. Stahlwille, Gedore or Hazet would be the brands to go with for a test like this.
@coytheboy2 роки тому
Many people would consider “ snap-on” tools to be the best. But that may be marketing because Milwaukee makes great tools! But I each brand has their fan boys. There are also several other brands that come close. But I would love to see a high end versus high end video, across all makes and all countries. So long as the quality of the tool is there!
@quackatit2 роки тому
@@coytheboy snap-on s are actually good. maybe a bit overpriced but still good.
@donl49142 роки тому
The American 1920s wrench should not be a contestant, it was never designed for that, it was only designed for opening and closing valves. Unfair comparison as it was constructed of cast iron. the rest of the comparison is a great representation. You truly get what you pay for. Cheap is good for "In a pinch" use. But know the quality of what you're buying. I'd say for a good representation next, step up to the next level of Wrenches same size, but mid-quality. The Cheap quality we know will fail faster. Even China has better quality, Comparing it to USA built is almost unfair. That said, was there any question about what was going to fail and what was going to exceed expectations? GREAT Video AGAIN!!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@KrecikBobasek2 роки тому
also waste of history in my opinion. i would just throw into cocacola and recover it :) and keep is as new just for fun.
@DragonstarFighter2 роки тому
yeah seeing the old girl break hurt...
@joe3USA2 роки тому
No wrenches were American made, Milwaukee wrenches are Not made in America despite the Milwaukee USA tag
@DragonstarFighter2 роки тому
@@joe3USA he was talking about the cast iron pipe valve wrench...
@spionsilver96262 роки тому
well of course the milwaukee wrench gets the highest numbers . really bulky at the work ends its almost one inch thick :) it also has some nice design tweaks helping with the grip that might be good if you work in free space and can apply much force but sometimes you have to work in narrow spaces limiting access so i would go with the würth wrench : very high numbers , pretty strong too , half the size , half the prize nice test anyways . showing the different qualities and also some dangers when working with cheap tools breaking and bending a lot
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@johnhenke64752 роки тому
Back in my auto mechanic days I would by cheap wrenches on sale for making specialty tools for hard to get places. I'd bend then and grind them so they would fit where I needed them. No matter how little I paid for them I never broke on unless I was beating the crap out of it with a great big hammer.
@honeyalee20652 роки тому
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@Argentvs2 роки тому
This, real life experience. Kudos, we do the same with tools in my workshop in Argentina (more related to trucks, farm machines and general metal works).
@trplpwr10382 роки тому
Yessir! Got a few still
@rkalle662 роки тому
An normal 17mm hex headed bolt has ~10mm shaft diameter and will probably not withstand ~250Nm (five time the force that is recommended on 8.8 stainless steel quality) and about 100 kg at .25 m distance.
@skipdegraff65472 роки тому
Exactly
@peterfitswell5352 роки тому
If you multiply 20 million jigawatts that's what you get .See what I'm saying. Just use quantum physics and you'll get the correct answer. Wait a minute. what were we talking about ?
@phoenixarian85132 роки тому
Yep. If such a bolt did not go at gravity force of 100 KG at 0.25m (1000 Newtons force, 250Nm torque) you better do something other than forcing it further. Too much torque may shear the bolt head or worse, squeeze shear the board between the bolt and nuts. I'm civil engineer. Too much specs on one place makes no sense as others would be the weak spot. (If you are using bolts not on steel structures but machines, they usually have torque requirements which you SHALL obey)
@datpudding5338Рік тому
Would love to see how Gedore fares in that test as it has quite a good reputation in germany. They are a bit more expensive tho
@playr1onesimracing8962 роки тому
I would love to see a full german comparison or a full USA comparison great video
@ThatNiceDutchGuy2 роки тому
That 1920 wrench is what I found, just a week ago, here in my shed. Hidden in an old rusty toolbox.
@honeyalee20652 роки тому
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@klb44882 роки тому
Muito boa essa demostração de potencia das chaves. Parabéns.
@Flops_404Рік тому
2 brs no meio de gringos
@ericeliander9325Рік тому
3
@Elchxc60Рік тому
My favorite tools are from my grandfather, still working great Even the GDR tools of my father are mostly better as new middle price tools Sorry for my english, greetings from east germany 👋
@anislay36822 роки тому
Wouldn't the length of the pressure lever affect the result?
@sunsetz722 роки тому
Wow Milwaukee is very impressive. I didn’t think it was going to take the test so far. That’s awesome.
@markwood4200Рік тому
Ty, always wondered how the performance of various wrenches. Im 66, broke and twisted many a import. They are recycled as ship anchors.
@OldStreetDocРік тому
I’m not sure the Milwaukee wrench exactly failed in the first test. Rather it was strong enough to pull the bar stock out of your jig… which couldn’t have been too easy. Of course, I’m an American and I might be a bit biased… but hey. 😉🤣 For whatever reason I LOVE watching these. There’s something sort of relaxing about it, which is strange because of all things - why would watching destructive testing be relaxing?! LOL
@cubemaster34882 роки тому
A 4$ tool vs a 14$ is really fair
@yia012 роки тому
and the distance between where the tool connec tot eh nut/bolt to where teh press press touch teh tool have to be teh same on all case, if not then teh torque that each tool put on the bolt/nut will be different.
@georgwalt79782 роки тому
@@yia01 yep thats a major flaw in this test
@cptdeadpool99392 роки тому
True but it's more the made in test though, hard to find a made in USA less in 14.
@aaroncornelius19762 роки тому
Take a 14$ German was a 20$ us The German will win. Würth is not really the yellow from the egg
@hsmith_z2 роки тому
cheaper tools are better sometimes, look at milwaukee power tools vs snap on
@night25012 роки тому
Was interesting to see the kind of failure, a brittle failure is way worse than a ductile one, can really get someone hurt
@Isaac8629 місяців тому
Also note the design put into the gripping end of the Milwaukee where it contacts the hex key
@justatogepienjoyingchocolate2 роки тому
Props goes to the grip on that vise 😲😲😲
@thomaswolf17712 роки тому
Impressive, invincible Milwaukee. And the measurement doesn't even count since it destroyed the whole setup but not the tool. Twice.
@piotrmoskal_pl2 роки тому
And surprisingly the most accurate at a metric standard
@donm65782 роки тому
It had advantage of little grooves in the open end that caught in the hex bit to prevent slipping allowing it to rotate the hex bit off the vise
@D4rkbl4d32 роки тому
@@donm6578 not only strong but design improvement, god bless America!
@aquarius52642 роки тому
i mean of course, it's a 14 dollar wrench and most of the other ones were around 1-2 dollars
@jamIam65482 роки тому
@@aquarius5264 quality over quantity. Pay your workers a decent wage and using superior quality steel cost more money. Buy 5 cheap wrenches that will eventually break or one that could last a lifetime.
@macosm78182 роки тому
Milwaukee is a product from a different price level. Among the German products, it will find many much better than the tested basic Wurth. Like Gedore, Hazet, Stahlwille, Matador and more.
@joe3USA2 роки тому
No wrenches were American made, Milwaukee wrenches are Not made in America despite the Milwaukee USA tag
@donovan63202 роки тому
Not really. You can't find a United States wrench for more than 10 bucks. Our tools are just more expensive. It doesn't matter where they come from. You'd have to import tools and while it might cost you five bucks in Germany, It could cost you $50 in the United States
@leetshi927Рік тому
very cool concept, but the linear force is not that we're using, in fact, the arme is followig the tool, and the resulting force is angular. and, the thin oxide coat must be cleaned before test ;) Congratulation for the good job, material resistance must be compare again, but we can the see they are not egal in quality ! (sorry for my poor english, I'm french, haha)
@LuisGonzalez-ui7owРік тому
Milwaukee makes awesome products, great power tools as well.
@joshbobst16292 роки тому
It seems like every wrench was strong enough to resist plastic deformation until after its open end lost its grip. I don't know what more you need than that. I'd say they're all good enough except the one whose box end snapped.
@Raven.flight2 роки тому
Yup, I couldn't apply more than 50kg force, so...
@joe125ful2 роки тому
Can be nice try closed wrenches next time.
@c4m3l232 роки тому
"I don't know what more you need than that" longevity?
@gawainethefirst2 роки тому
Now I know where I’m going to get my next set of box wrenches from.
@Mechanicalversus-uv4rsРік тому
Amazing pressing video, never see before.......awesome
@BigJBlizzleРік тому
I think you should try out some of the higher end tools like Snap-on and Mac. Compare to some that performed well on the lower end. See if they're really worth all that money
@christopherbeddoe4062 роки тому
Watching the jaws of those cheap wrenches expanded is making me want to upgrade my wrenches a bit.
@SmartassX12 роки тому
Look at the kg counts. Are you really going to put like 80+ kg on a 17 mm wrench (for 10 mm bolts)? The bolts would normally break sooner than your tools.
@skipdegraff65472 роки тому
If you are putting this level of force on your wrench you are superman. Any of these will do the job for me. I have a breaker bar and impact sockets for 100 plus ft lbs torque.... I'm never really going to get enough leverage on my wrenches to break them. I will buy Milwaukee from now on though
@phoenixarian85132 роки тому
You MAY need to use such a torque to loose a rusty bolt. Also striking the end of wrench with a hammer would apply a huge amount of spike torque to the bolt. Whether you should or worth do such an action is another question.
@sniperon2wheelsРік тому
It’d be interesting to see how other brands do, like Stahlwille, Britool, Snapon, Elora, Bacho, Facom, Gedore etc…
@georgecolbert32472 роки тому
The "1920s" USA wrench is a bottle wrench for shutting off compressed cylinder valves and removing regulators on a torch. It's not designed for a lot of torque.
@dukeywukey39092 роки тому
Would love to see a comparison f Top brands from different countries! Hi from Australia!
@Nobody-uh9ug2 роки тому
I wish you could expand the experiment by including some well-known italian wrenches such as: - USAG - BETA - PASTORINO.
@lordswaine52389 місяців тому
I'm impressed. The Milwaukee technically didn't even fail. Like yeah it looked a little bent but it didn't let go.
@mohammadabasi4071Рік тому
The best industry in the world is America. Well done. I am from Iran and I love America's industry and power
@u.s.militia76822 роки тому
I actually have several of those 1920’s wrenches. Back when nuts & bolts had square heads.
@RuralTowner2 роки тому
No risk of rounding stuff off with those...at least no normally realistic chance
@RingoBudha2 роки тому
Nice to know tool quality has improved since we learned to fly and go to the moon. For me I avoid the ultra cheap and the ultra pricey and look for something with a lifetime warranty. I do buy some Harbor Freight tools when its for a one time job.
@RockandrollNegro2 роки тому
All Harbor Freight hand tools have a lifetime warranty.
@StephenGere-jm1hr2 роки тому
@@RockandrollNegro ha. Haha.
@DaveW74TVN2 роки тому
I've got a Quinn ratchet set from Harbor Freight that stays under the seat in my truck. Good enough for occasional use and if I lose it, it was cheap enough not to hurt my feelings ;) I've got impact sockets from HF that I've been using for years with no complaints whatsoever.
@tntfreddan3138Рік тому
Should have gotten a Bahco set. Paid €200 for an entire tool box. Both Imperial and Metric sockets, a big and a small socket wrench, entire set of combination wrenches, socket wrench extentions, universal socket extensions and a bunch more. All made in Sweden. The man who founded the company that would later become Bahco also invented the adjustable wrench and the pipe wrench. He was also born in my home town.
@douro20Рік тому
Bahco is owned by Snap-On now. They are part of the industrial line.
@mistingwolfРік тому
LOL that Milwaukee one was like "If I'm going down, you're coming with me."
@Dermisc2 роки тому
The jaws are a lot more important than the handle, because you can always sleeve a steel pipe over that wrench to multiply your torque.