Is Formula E Harder Than F1?

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I’ve been lucky enough to drive both Formula 1 and Formula E cars. I’ve driven F1 cars all the way from the early 80s, all the way up to the mid-2010s. And a few weeks ago, I drove a Formula E car for the first time.
But, how are they different? And which one would be the most challenging to race? Well, my answer might surprise you.
Well, I wanted to take a look at the differences between F1 and Formula E to see how things stack up, and to see how things are spiced up, in an effort to make racing more interesting… for us as fans.
And, as I’ve never driven a Formula E car, I went out to Diriyah to test one -- so I could compare it to the numerous F1 cars I’ve driven, which I’ll share later in this video.
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 653
@heartofdawn2341
@heartofdawn2341 Місяць тому
One thing you didn't mention was energy management. The cars don't have a battery big enough to run the entire race and must recover about 40% through regenerative breaking. This means that you have to balance going fast enough to win, while braking and coasting heavily enough to have the energy needed to get to the end of the race, all the while dealing with the other drivers who also trying to figure out the same
@DrDeuteron
@DrDeuteron Місяць тому
no EV has a battery big enough to finish the race, unless the race is running to whole foods to get more kale chips.
@sajeucettefoistunevaspasme
@sajeucettefoistunevaspasme Місяць тому
it has more than enough battery to finnish the race is fact it has enough battery to finnish 5/3 of races usually
@trueinnovator7207
@trueinnovator7207 Місяць тому
@@DrDeuteron It actually does. It just that they deliberately reduce it to only 60% so that the race will not be a flat out race.
@mohammadrifqisatriamas7311
@mohammadrifqisatriamas7311 Місяць тому
@@sajeucettefoistunevaspasme well if you drive it like a grandma
@sajeucettefoistunevaspasme
@sajeucettefoistunevaspasme Місяць тому
@@mohammadrifqisatriamas7311manly if you drive it ALONE with no competitor and no attack mode
@ashleyhamman
@ashleyhamman Місяць тому
FE feels much more approachable to watch than most motorsports, which I think is for a mix of reasons. Of course there's the variety in winners, but the sprint race duration, the very obvious strategy component, and the fact that they put out the full races on their website after the fact, all of which makes it more approachable to a casual viewer.
@M4R7YN
@M4R7YN Місяць тому
If you want approachable, BTCC is where it's at. Meet all the drivers in the pits before the race, wander around between the garage between races, tickets are cheap and all the races, including support series, are broadcast on free to air TV.
@mac.fk14
@mac.fk14 Місяць тому
Watch wrc
@JoshuaC923
@JoshuaC923 22 дні тому
Also why i like GT racing, and wec/imsa
@billmcdonald4335
@billmcdonald4335 Місяць тому
Gotta say, FE has evolved into a fun series to watch. The cars look quick, and the drivers are super aggressive. If you like watching scrappy, wheel-to-wheel action, this is the series for you.
@scsutton1
@scsutton1 Місяць тому
If you have the money in the UK.
@edwardwong654
@edwardwong654 Місяць тому
I have a tyre fetish and I do not like seeing treads.
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Місяць тому
I am struggling this year. The races still seem to be pretty good, especially last weekend but it's becoming harder to follow when the licence keeps moving around and you have to keep chasing it. No disrespect to TMT or whoever it is now for the UK but damn, they suck. They don't have convenient schedule updates like C4 and BBC did. You take the luxury for granted until it's gone. It's kinda hurt my enthusiasm for the sport.
@sam-nariman6236
@sam-nariman6236 Місяць тому
I tried so many times to enjoy it but it was boring for me I don't know why. I rather to watch wec although WEC is more boring by its nature.
@fallenshallrise
@fallenshallrise Місяць тому
@@edwardwong654 The FE tires are not my favorite but it makes me wonder what an F1 race would look like if all the slicks were compromised or lost somehow and they all had to run a dry race on inters or some other kind of treaded tire. Less mechanical grip, longer braking distances, cars drifting and sliding again.
@joaovitorLabres
@joaovitorLabres Місяць тому
Last week's SP e-Prix was crazy, overtakes (yes, plural) on the last corner and carnage all the time. Not all races are that good, but usually they delivery pretty well!
@username_mcusernameface
@username_mcusernameface Місяць тому
F1 has last corner overtakes too. In fact, one well known one still has racists complaining about it 14 years later.
@4wardfr3ak23
@4wardfr3ak23 24 дні тому
@@username_mcusernamefacewhich one?
@M16_Akula-III
@M16_Akula-III 16 днів тому
which one? ​@@username_mcusernameface
@kent6054
@kent6054 13 днів тому
​@@username_mcusernameface No point gatekeeping, which race bruh
@username_mcusernameface
@username_mcusernameface 12 днів тому
@@kent6054 "IS THAT GLOCK?"
@ShimmeringSpectrum
@ShimmeringSpectrum Місяць тому
It's good that the electric powered world championship is hard in different ways than the gasoline powered world championship. The variety in racing formats and styles means people with different tastes can watch a flavor of motorsport that showcases drivers and machines that are the best for that particular discipline.
@kissgergo5202
@kissgergo5202 Місяць тому
I'd love to hear a current top F1 driver like Verstappen take some time in a Formula E car and give his thoughts
@tomwallach
@tomwallach Місяць тому
Felipe Massa failed massively in FE.
@kooooons
@kooooons Місяць тому
You mean like nico rosberg, when he did that with the gen2 car? Or when nick heidfeld presented the gen3 car in goodwood? Also jean eric verne managed a P6 in F1. Like Massa, Jacques Villeneuve also had a go in 2015 but he wasn't successful either.
@tomwallach
@tomwallach Місяць тому
@@kooooons nick Heidfeld also was pretty unsuccessful in the gen1
@kooooons
@kooooons Місяць тому
@@tomwallach but he was a top F1 Driver that did drive the gen3 car. That would meet the OPs requirements. Edit: Man, look at me old guy still thinking that Heidfeld and Rosberg are recent F1 drivers
@areebsiddiqui758
@areebsiddiqui758 Місяць тому
@@kooooons Giovinazzi, De Vries, Wehrlein and Vandoorne are all recent F1 drivers who have raced in FE.
@ReaperUnreal
@ReaperUnreal Місяць тому
I definitely appreciate the actual racing in FE, especially Monaco a few years ago was WILD, not to mention the half-indoors London circuit. I also really like that everything's so quiet, you can go to a race and actually hear yourself think. That said, no, they're not as fast or as much a pinnacle of technology as F1. But it's a tradeoff, and I love them both. So.... D1GP next?
@username_mcusernameface
@username_mcusernameface Місяць тому
I'm interested in an electric racing series on proper tracks, with free development and without stupid Mario Kart gimmicks, but FE just takes up that space so we'll probably never get it...
@martinterreni1616
@martinterreni1616 Місяць тому
Right you are, no need to choose, I love both
@kissgergo5202
@kissgergo5202 Місяць тому
0:56 I kinda hope Max somehow manages to win all 24 races this season because #1 that would be incredibly impressive and a record that would most likely stand forever and #2 because that might finally put pressure on the rule makers to make some radical changes to prevent such domination to occur again.
@SorryImFromOhio
@SorryImFromOhio Місяць тому
Won't happen, red bull know to sandbag to prevent exactly that
@thedeadplayer1645
@thedeadplayer1645 Місяць тому
But how would you prevent it? There is always someone who is better
@Fishbone8891
@Fishbone8891 Місяць тому
We've always had this level of domination in every calendar year. The past used to have reliability issues that prevented cars from finishing, which opened the door for more race winners. The qualifying pace used to have pole to P2 and P3 with gapes that were over a second, now it's down to tenths or hundredths of a second, and you claim there wasn't domination back then?
@perpetual_bias
@perpetual_bias Місяць тому
dominating in the sport is like a business having a monopoly on a product. it's not the business's fault if their product is simply much better than their competitors innovation is not something you should discourage
@user-py5rn8wq9c
@user-py5rn8wq9c Місяць тому
Regulations changed every few years to avoid domimation, but you must be aware that although it can take down one monster, it can also create another one. That's what happening right now, they stopped Mercedes and Hamilton, just to create Max and RB while doing that.
@cellshaded
@cellshaded 25 днів тому
People forget that Extreme E exists which is a much better use of electric powered racing and much more fun to watch! Basically electric rallying/dakar.
@LutraLovegood
@LutraLovegood 12 днів тому
Had never even heard of Extreme E before.
@cellshaded
@cellshaded 12 днів тому
@@LutraLovegood I hope you enjoy it! It's fun.
@alieffauzanrizky7202
@alieffauzanrizky7202 Місяць тому
A year ago i got an opportunity to join a pre-qualifying round for jakarta e-prix esports event. And i can confirm the car is very hard and a bit fun to drive. The best i can describe is a way more slippery radical sp3 with very instant torque. Even though i didn't qualify (0.8 sec off), i can keep the car for free 😂
@vijilant
@vijilant Місяць тому
Formula E has a peloton effect where you don't really want to be in clear air because it uses more energy. I really like the added strategy that creates. Some people hate it because it's not "pure" racing, but F1 has DRS so...
@TheSteinbitt
@TheSteinbitt 26 днів тому
Yeah, but who wants to watch a peloton of BEVs faffing around a track for an hour before racing?
@M16_Akula-III
@M16_Akula-III 16 днів тому
​@@TheSteinbittQuite the number of people actually.
@sageofsixpathskakashi3742
@sageofsixpathskakashi3742 Місяць тому
Yes, more Fe coverage. We love to see it
@cederian
@cederian Місяць тому
We need to take into account costs... a Formula E season is around 12mill, thats like 5% of what F1 cost. Of course they will try to save the cars as much as possible.
@KingdomAuto
@KingdomAuto Місяць тому
Another great video Scott! Always very factual and informative while still entertaining 👏👏
@lewis8552
@lewis8552 Місяць тому
Both are hard in different ways. I don't think really any one series is harder than the other. However, FE is challenging and it's good to have a video that tries to get that across to a casual viewer. Anybody that has rFactor2 should get the gen 3 car to see for themselves (or VRC formula lithium for Assetto Corsa). Its quick to see how hard the series is. F1 car has so much grip its easy to get to a respectable level with it (hard to get on the limit though). Gen 3 FE car on the other hand takes a lot of time to get used too the low grip and high torque.
@Jasongilliar
@Jasongilliar 3 дні тому
Well you dont here fe drivers vomitting after half a race or rookys lean there head on the side of the car. Like bearmen litterly crushed His headprotection. Yeah its not easy to drive an fe car because it slides around but a f1 car at the limit, your basicly not allowed to slide. Yeah it has so much grip but your pushing to the edge of that. Plus the g forces over the complete distance, theres a reason f1 cars are 6 secounds slower in the Race. Ofc tyre Management but if they Race qualyfing pace for a full race than ppl gonna blackout. Formula 1 and indycars oval racing is brutal, and i dont think that fe is close to it
@kreiseltower
@kreiseltower Місяць тому
Interesting video! Thank you. I have to say as a spectator, I don't enjoy watching races on those fenced street circuits. They kinda look all the same and very boring. I only watch street circuit races when I'm bored to death and have absolutely nothing else to do. But when there are races on tracks like Nordschleife, Red Bull Ring, Spa the whole scenery is so amazing that it adds a lot to the enjoyment factor of that race.
@thelegend5243
@thelegend5243 Місяць тому
Both are very difficult and different from each other. The G forces would be much lower in a formula E car compared to formula 1, due to the cars being lighter and because they have a lot less downforce. The Formula E cars are more affected by wind and other drivers on the track.
@lewis8552
@lewis8552 Місяць тому
Yeah g forces will be low. Don't think any series really comepetes with f1 there. Apparently steering is very heavy in FE as have no power steering and front regen adds even more weight there, also the cars are heavy. So probably requires a bit more arm strength.
@lemon0801
@lemon0801 Місяць тому
Weight and downforce don't directly affect G force, but they do enable faster cornering speeds, which do cause higher G force.
@thelegend5243
@thelegend5243 Місяць тому
@@lemon0801 of course they do! You haven’t got a clue about Aerodynamics, and you’ve just contradicted yourself, I pity you!
@crusty_magog
@crusty_magog Місяць тому
⁠@@thelegend5243you said the cars would have exert less g force on the driver because the cars are lighter? That’s not correct. G force is the rate at which the car’s velocity can change, which is related to cornering speed, which is improved by having a lighter car.
@crusty_magog
@crusty_magog Місяць тому
Also formula E cars are less affected by wind and dirty air as most of the downforce is generated through the floor
@RonI-qz2tz
@RonI-qz2tz Місяць тому
Great job at the off-road games Scott.
@Nagstersept109868
@Nagstersept109868 Місяць тому
Last season of Formula E was not great but it looks like the gen 3 cars have been improved this season. The racing is much better than F1 but I don’t think the racing is really F1’s main attraction.
@Kj16V
@Kj16V Місяць тому
Honest question: what would you say is the main attraction of F1, the noise and spectacle?
@seanonraet8327
@seanonraet8327 Місяць тому
Why wasn't last season great? There was a great title fight between the jaguar and porshe teams
@JoshHart-88
@JoshHart-88 Місяць тому
@@Kj16V The speed and engineering side I would say. I'm more interested in exciting, wheel to wheel battles so it's not my personal favourite series but I can appreciate F1 for what it is and I still watch the races.
@lightfeather9953
@lightfeather9953 Місяць тому
​​@@Kj16VI enjoy F1 even the boring races because it's the top series in the world. It's the same reason I enjoy the Champions League more than amateur football. The stakes are higher, the best drivers and engineers are competing, etc
@lewis8552
@lewis8552 Місяць тому
​@@Kj16V the engineering competition there is what makes it. Plus, just the raw speed of those cars is great and they have great drivers as well. I think thats F1's main appeal
@jpe1
@jpe1 Місяць тому
I like this comparison video, and agree with the overall conclusions. I’ve never driven F1 or FE, but have driven many other gas cars including F2000, and for the past 10 years was driving EVSR electric race cars, and I love how much quieter the EV drivetrain is, I can hear the tires so much better and get more cornering performance by hearing when grip starts to go away.
@neukin
@neukin Місяць тому
Was pretty cool to hear the balance between the two makes. Everything has major variables that play into this. F1 is just full out nuts and fuel is easy to work with right now. Electric still has the weight and charging or battery swap issues but at least the electric car weight is always the same. Id like to hear if the weight of the F1 car effects driving as the fuel weight is removed or sloshing. Either way cool video, thanks for making it.
@TurkishCoffees
@TurkishCoffees Місяць тому
Glad to have you in Diriyah - I actually like the track and have driven their quite a few times during track days and done some less than legal laps when no one is watching lol. It made me enjoy watching Formula E.
@alexmaier456
@alexmaier456 Місяць тому
great video, but when will you make a video about pro drifting especially about dmec (drift masters european championship) such a good competition and imo the most exciting motorsport to watch. just look at some highlights of drift masters round 6 and you will get why i say that, just insane.
@Prince_Pig
@Prince_Pig Місяць тому
I learned so much about Formula E today. Thanks 🏎️
@chrisfurlough466
@chrisfurlough466 Місяць тому
Portland is my home track, so I know lots of stats about it. The Formula E cars best lap times from last year's race would get them passed in some SCCA classes.
@iantrott9152
@iantrott9152 Місяць тому
Great video Scott, FE for me is exactly what I like about racing :)
@DOUGandNIKI
@DOUGandNIKI Місяць тому
You should do the video about IndyCar which we all know is a better "racing" series but a comparisson would be a great video.
@markcooper8561
@markcooper8561 Місяць тому
Excellent insights.
@markallen8203
@markallen8203 Місяць тому
This is a fantastic watch
@calvinallan2208
@calvinallan2208 Місяць тому
Can we all agree that Verstappens dominance is actually bad for F1. Hamilton era wasnt this bad for competition. Max needs to move to another team or they need to make some radical regulations in 2026 to level the field
@Tutel._.2522
@Tutel._.2522 Місяць тому
7:13 well that was a cool drift
@motorinternet6538
@motorinternet6538 22 дні тому
This video made me appreciate more formula e, good video
@BastianGrimm2511
@BastianGrimm2511 Місяць тому
Nyck de Vries begs to differ 👀
@lewis8552
@lewis8552 Місяць тому
Tbf he is struggling back in FE as well. Granted he's not in a great team but he's been a step behind his teammate this year. Still getting up to speed with the current car.
@sajeucettefoistunevaspasme
@sajeucettefoistunevaspasme Місяць тому
@@lewis8552 compare him to his teammate back in Merc he was consistently worse than Vandoorn
@lewis8552
@lewis8552 Місяць тому
​@@sajeucettefoistunevaspasmeyeah he was never that great. Season he won was a lottery
@B0CAJUN10RS1995
@B0CAJUN10RS1995 Місяць тому
*Stoffel Vandoorne has joined the chat*
@PEPSIMaxMusic
@PEPSIMaxMusic Місяць тому
He's getting clapped by Mortara this season lmao
@Mireaze
@Mireaze Місяць тому
FE is so much more interesting to watch than F1, especially with the energy management aspects of the race
@trntom
@trntom Місяць тому
The fact that at the start the full battery is enough for 60% of the race and they have to regenerate enough of charge to do the other 40% of the race is bonkers.
@RedmondBarryII
@RedmondBarryII Місяць тому
It's just a fuel mileage race without refueling and the element of surprise.
@username_mcusernameface
@username_mcusernameface Місяць тому
I think if there *wasn't* all the energy management stuff, it'd be a lot more interesting to watch.
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Місяць тому
@@RedmondBarryII Ngl, racing has been like that for 20 years minimum now. As it happens, performance often improves with some science, math and management.
@The.Fake.Adam.Lulich
@The.Fake.Adam.Lulich Місяць тому
I went to Formula E race in Portland last year, it was my first interaction with the series. As an Indycar fan I was really interested in the lap time comparison between the two categories. I figured they would be somewhat comparable however, the FE car was 12 seconds slower. it was also slower than a Indy NXT Car, GT3 car, and Trans Am car from 1984. For a series that bills itself as the Premier Electric racing series I expected something Faster Minimum 1:03.
@lewis8552
@lewis8552 Місяць тому
A lot of that is just down to no aero and the tyres they run. Di Grassi said you could easily find 5 seconds with slicks, actual aero and activating the front powertrain for AWD. Also, because its a battery you can't take weight off for a quali lap which hurts laptime. Next year they're getting AWD and softer tyres (but still all weather). I think aero as well is getting cleaned up a bit. Probably find around 3 seconds from that. Then 2 years after that is Gen 4 which is when the tech will really be up there. Talk is doubling the power to 800hp, AWD and two aero kits (High and Low downforce). That could see it floating closer towards Indycar lap times. Though weight and tyres likely still holding them back.
@Curt_Sampson
@Curt_Sampson Місяць тому
I don't really see how watching a race with different (but not technologically more advanced) tires and aero makes it more interesting. Sure, it shaves a few seconds off the lap time, but it's not driver skill doing that, it's just the removal of some grooves and adding a couple of wings.
@The.Fake.Adam.Lulich
@The.Fake.Adam.Lulich Місяць тому
Agreed, the lack of speed doesn't take anything away from the driver talent. I'm just used to seeing a 58-65 second lap time, that's what my brain is used too. I expected to see the cars carrying the same speeds through the corners, and braking earlier than they did, it just wasn't as exhilarating of an experience for me. I will say though the Cars are quieter in person which made the whole experience nicer to watch. @@Curt_Sampson
@DiogeneDeSin0pe
@DiogeneDeSin0pe Місяць тому
Good informative video, thank you! Could a Formula e have a slightly bigger window of operation?
@DavidJohnson-dc8lu
@DavidJohnson-dc8lu Місяць тому
Could you do a detailed video on that Alonso v Russell incident. I'm sure you could explain it in better technical details. Why it wasn't a brake check, and how a harversting Alonso lifted and downshifted, effected a speeding Russell, and why he lost control! Was it Alonso's fault or should have Russell reacted better? Even so was it normal for a car to lose so much control the way it did?
@talbotd27
@talbotd27 Місяць тому
I’m thinking about getting into watching a secondary racing series other than F1. I’m thinking about either F2, Formula E, or Indycar. I do live in Indiana and have been to a lot of races as a kid, but I’m not sure how interesting it is. Any thoughts on the most interesting other series?
@brianrasmussen2956
@brianrasmussen2956 Місяць тому
I really don't like limiting the power, especially in formula E. They should make the race short enough so drivers could just give it the beans instead of having to lift and coast so much. I know F1 does that aswell, and that shouldn't be so imho.
@bbbenj
@bbbenj Місяць тому
Many thanks!
@Coen80
@Coen80 25 днів тому
I have a subscription to IndyCar and F1. I watch F1 for 44years now. (Yes it was mandatory when i was little bday or not.😂) Both have their plusses. F1, by far has the best 'tv'. I mean that the images are all very sleek, very good camera angles, and no commentators that are promoting tampons or whatever sponsor payed them.. For me however the big issue with F1 is the giant discrepancy between commentators calling drivers 'gladiators' and the reality in which they are just performers. Danger is not a factor. Sure a driver could die, but it is more likely that i would die falling of my own stairs. Then there is the bulletproof reliability, which sucks balls. In the old days one really had to first make sure he finished, to finish first. Even if Mansell had lapped the entire field, his engine could conk out in final corner, they could run out of fuel... so many things could, and often would, go wrong because the cars were literally performing at the absolute limit . There is no tension-mount anymore. It's just boring AF.
@256k_
@256k_ Місяць тому
the thing that really turns me off of formula E is the race structure. it's designed more as a video game than a race, with boost zones and fans voting to give energy and weird shit like that. honestly it just feels very gimmic-y and ruins it for me. if they made the race simply be a race without all that shit then maybe then i'd give it another look.
@username_mcusernameface
@username_mcusernameface Місяць тому
100% this. If they made a gimmick-free non-spec-series version with proper tracks and not street circuits, I'd be all for it.
@Garfie489
@Garfie489 Місяць тому
"fans voting to give energy and weird shit like that" Doesnt happen anymore, and hasnt for some time - it never did anything anyway. The only "gimmick" is attack mode, but thats just the same as a joker lap in many other series or pit stops in F1.
@nzmfpv
@nzmfpv Місяць тому
8:08 this footage blends in so well, nobody probably noticed it’s Assetto Corsa
@awrightmate5818
@awrightmate5818 Місяць тому
Nope that's real footage
@mepmep619
@mepmep619 Місяць тому
​@@awrightmate5818You can literally check out the channel name on the top left. They upload Assetto Corsa gameplay with realistic graphics mods
@1994savvas
@1994savvas Місяць тому
@@awrightmate58185:14 - 5:21 is from Assetto and it's so obvious.
@AARacing608
@AARacing608 Місяць тому
@@awrightmate5818It is assetto corsa 😂top left says flying finn. check out his youtube channel. he does assetto corsa content. assetto corsa can be really realistic
@rasecd
@rasecd Місяць тому
I got all the comments you mentioned, and for me would be good to know your opinion on the Nyck DeVries who was a Formula E champion but a lot of issues in F1
@Garfie489
@Garfie489 Місяць тому
Nyck won FE in a season where due to a rules issue, performing well was punished - he won few races, and finished 9th the season after when the rules were corrected.
@npc4188
@npc4188 Місяць тому
I was wondering how much force feedback on a direct drive rig is realistic to real life f1, lmh and gt3 car, do we cranked it to 100% or its not comparable?
@stefanreichenbacher2061
@stefanreichenbacher2061 Місяць тому
Not even a minute into the video, I love your choice of drivers we don’t want to see ❤
@OdyTypeR
@OdyTypeR Місяць тому
Lol @ the message on the hoop: Let's be careful about which barriers we try to break, those walls don't look like they have much give 😳
@CreamAle
@CreamAle Місяць тому
Man, this video went through more thumbnails than a paddock going through tires on a race week.
@PozzaPizz
@PozzaPizz Місяць тому
How awesome would it be to have a street legal two seater akin to these formula E cars?
@4literv6
@4literv6 Місяць тому
The Ds e-tense prototype 2 Dr coupe that Carlos the boss of stellantis drove on a few race circuits is the closest yet. Shame stellantis won't nut up and fkn build a road legal version of it. He seemed damn impressed with it on a real track. 😏
@PozzaPizz
@PozzaPizz Місяць тому
@@4literv6 i had no idea that was a thing! Ds as in citroen? I'll check it out regardless
@jonathanpatze87
@jonathanpatze87 Місяць тому
Hey Scott, did you ever drive a rally car? If yes how would a similar comparison between Rally and Formula series look like? Maybe in a future video ;)?
@brendandsilva4498
@brendandsilva4498 Місяць тому
F1 cars have semi-automatic sequential gearboxes. No gearshifting is required at all in FE cars as they have automatic transmission.
@saltyaphid3195
@saltyaphid3195 Місяць тому
Electric cars dont really need an automatic transmission or any gears. The only gears they need are forward, backward, and neutral
@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious
@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious 18 днів тому
To me, Attack Mode, battery management and the more narrow and sharper circuits + less predictable winners make FE more interesting to watch than F1, but i still like both, maybe F1 more because i've been watching it since the 2014 season, stopping at around mid 2017 and only catching up to it in 2021 (it took that long). That feels like forever Just to say it, as i'm currently more oblivious to the situation in FE, my favorite teams and drivers are Formula 1: Lewis Hamilton and Minar- i mean, Alpha- I MEAN, Racing Bulls Formula E: Félix Da Costa and Porsche. More homogenized
@Markle2k
@Markle2k 22 дні тому
It sounds like you would really enjoy the C2V snow racing where car control is at a premium.
@michaelgomez3044
@michaelgomez3044 Місяць тому
When are you putting up your Offroad Games video?
@metuberob
@metuberob 16 днів тому
instant torque in formula e vs not so instant torque in f1
@bongosock
@bongosock Місяць тому
I wish there was a way of separating drivers from manufacturers - like if each driver had to race each car - one per race. So Max would end up racing with each manufacturer's cars at least once through the season. That way you could split up the manufacturer's competition from the driver's competition, and hopefully have a clearer picture by the end of the season - who actually is the best.
@bsuthe
@bsuthe Місяць тому
The headline states "...Formula E is Harder Than Formula 1". In the video you asked the question, is Formula E more difficult to drive than Formula 1? Your answer was "In short, no." So... which is it?
@username_mcusernameface
@username_mcusernameface Місяць тому
Harder to enjoy without getting bored.
@Oodlenoots
@Oodlenoots 29 днів тому
11:56 lol it says breaking barriers just after you mentioned a shunt
@lunalucifer3335
@lunalucifer3335 Місяць тому
is the music at 7:39 jort storm by charlie slimecicle??
@darthkarl99
@darthkarl99 Місяць тому
Honestly my feeling for a while has been that F1 cars now have way too much grip relative the amount of power they have, it makes advantages in the car much more apparent. Not that driver skill doesn;t matter in F1, but i tend to feel F1 intentionally or otherwise emphasises the car too much.
@PeachyPixel28
@PeachyPixel28 Місяць тому
cool video! ADR is kinda weird though
@gehtdianschasau8372
@gehtdianschasau8372 13 днів тому
Nobody wants to lead, because of battery manegement. There are so many overtakings, because drivers are forced to take a longer route twice a race to get extra power. So they get overtaken when they drive the long way and then regain their position because of the extra power or the driver in front takes the long road. That doesn't make it more exciting, it makes it random and stupid, especially, when there is a yello flag. Formula E is not racing, it's energy manegement. BTW i love the Caterham footage, i will never forget stigs lap with the 500.
@giraffeinabucket1567
@giraffeinabucket1567 Місяць тому
With regards to run off on tracks, my idea would be to keep the tarmac run off, but have a gravel gutter on the edge of the track
@eleycki
@eleycki Місяць тому
Why did you change the thumbnail from earlier with the split top down view?
@zaco-km3su
@zaco-km3su Місяць тому
You liked the car. I'm not much of a fan of street circuits....with the exception of Monaco. You can get the same things done on a racetrack. You can get some gravel instead of asphalt for the runoff. You will also have more safety.
@daranjohnson7324
@daranjohnson7324 Місяць тому
One thing I didn't hear about was the difference in steering wheels and the multitude of settings that can be made corner to corner. I imagine that an experienced F1 driver is making far more adjustments then a rookie and more than a Formula E driver has options to in a Formula E car, which would make driving a F1 car far more difficult. I would love to hear more about that, how much difference it makes and what the different adjustments are made by drivers corner to corner.
@lewis8552
@lewis8552 Місяць тому
You'd be surprised. FE has a ton of wheel settings. There's a good video on their youtube which goes through the steering wheel and just how many different modes that can be changed. Its very similar to F1 on that side as its a very technical series.
@daranjohnson7324
@daranjohnson7324 Місяць тому
@@lewis8552 That's good to hear. Thanks!
@0Defensor0
@0Defensor0 7 днів тому
"Breaking Barriers" seems like a really questionable slogan for a fast car driving close to walls.
@keanuismyfather7477
@keanuismyfather7477 Місяць тому
I worked as hospitality staff in the Ricciardo suites at this past GP in Melbourne and was very happy to see Verstappen and Hamilton DNF and Sainz win it fairly comfortably. Viva España 🇪🇸
@NoferTrunions
@NoferTrunions 18 днів тому
I've been thinking about rules and going Green. Then I think of Can-Am and Group B. Then Fangio. Then I question the introduction of aero/downforce. - where any drivers against it?
@SPMinerva
@SPMinerva Місяць тому
I wonder if the small circuit and chaos of FE help the driver when they race in WEC especially through traffic
@chongshuenzhe3535
@chongshuenzhe3535 Місяць тому
It does at some point
@griffholmes4232
@griffholmes4232 Місяць тому
There are very rarely lapped cars in Formula E, but racing in tight packs against cars with significant straight line speed differences brought about by varying energy management must to a small extent be a transferable skill for WEC
@masterjarun2848
@masterjarun2848 Місяць тому
Bruh he literally has #ad in the Description of the video, so that is why he is talking so positive about it…
@lancergt1000
@lancergt1000 Місяць тому
2:17 it was genuinely impossible to tell on the Street Circuit chart whether the red-and-white flag is Monaco or Indonesia, both countries have held Formula E races and their flag look the same 😮
@SPMinerva
@SPMinerva Місяць тому
Indonesia didnt held FE race this year. Some say because of this year is political election year, but the reason never reveal
@Kurenai_Mitsuguni
@Kurenai_Mitsuguni 22 дні тому
Not to mention The tracks in the formula E is much slimmer, smaller and more narrower making it difficult to try to get ahead the rest of the other drivers aswell
@alveolate
@alveolate Місяць тому
i'd really like to watch more FE but i just don't know who to watch or where to start... could yall give pointers for a newbie to get into it?
@griffholmes4232
@griffholmes4232 Місяць тому
Viewing all depends what country you're in if you want to watch live, the new CEO has stuck it behind a paywall in countries including the UK, where you need a VPN set for the US. Alternatively, every race in FE history is available in full on their website, with new ones added after a few week's delay. The best season (IMO), season 7, is there in full on their youtube channel, if you love motorsport enough you could call it binge-worthy. The best races to watch are Buenos Aires S2, Mexico City S3 and S5, Cape Town S9, Rome S7 (race 1) and S8 (race 1) , Monaco S7, Berlin S7 (both races), New York S5 and S8 (race 2), Portland S9, and Sao Paulo S9 and S10)
@sonniholmstedt190
@sonniholmstedt190 Місяць тому
How is the difficulty level if you throw in the WEC Hyper cars?
@lewis8552
@lewis8552 Місяць тому
I think a lot of drivers that have driven both say Hypercar is "easy" to drive, at least compared to other series. Mainly due to the driving aids the cars have. However, the series itself is challenging in other ways. There's drivers that have driven all three categories and general consensus is FE is hardest on a pure driving level due to its lack of grip.
@joribremer5260
@joribremer5260 Місяць тому
Its like Di Grassi said once (or was it JEV) F E is simple to pick up but very hard to master
@morganp7238
@morganp7238 Місяць тому
All of us have suffered through the era of hero-F1. When will it end?
@youquagmire
@youquagmire Місяць тому
Interesting video. I wonder why they don't just run Formula E on the same race weekend as F1. I think it would be a good support race for F1 and it also would bring forward the focus of Formula E development to be as close as possible to the future of F1 in going sustainable.
@deathtrooper2048
@deathtrooper2048 Місяць тому
Though it would suck missing race for FE and then you go to watch another series and that series spoils the results of a seperate series.
@v0ldy54
@v0ldy54 Місяць тому
You can't race FE in F1 circuits because they would look too slow on proper tracks
@saltyaphid3195
@saltyaphid3195 Місяць тому
​@v0ldy54 yes because speed is the only thing that matters in racing. F1 and gt racing clearly show this isnt true. F1 is fast but boring, gt is slow but fun.
@v0ldy54
@v0ldy54 Місяць тому
@@saltyaphid3195 it's not the only thing that matters but it does matter, especially if you're watching it on TV, formula E would look like a joke on normal circuits and they would suffer even more compared to normal cars because they're far worse for energy recovery compared to FE tracks
@saltyaphid3195
@saltyaphid3195 Місяць тому
@v0ldy54 to me it really doesnt. Nascar on road courses looks really slow but the racing is really good. Its impressive to watch cars go fast but after 2 minutes you get used to it, its not that important
@labnux
@labnux Місяць тому
I'll be honest, main reason I don't watch Formula E IS the fact most of the tracks are street circuits. I just don't like 'em. Otherwise the racing does seem very interesting. I'll try to watch the ones on road courses this year.
@sajeucettefoistunevaspasme
@sajeucettefoistunevaspasme Місяць тому
at least watch sao paulo, this may be a street track but it's sao paulo too
@GarageSupra
@GarageSupra Місяць тому
weird, I'm the opposite I love street circuits like what the v8 supercars use here in Australia
@labnux
@labnux Місяць тому
@@GarageSupra it's defo a preference thing. I did a league race on iRacing on Belle Isle on the Porsche Cup. Bloody hell that was stupidly troublesome. Idk I just never liked them. In F1 I find it dumb that 2 meters wide, 5.5 meters long cars are racing in the narrow streets of Monaco.
@ShimmeringSpectrum
@ShimmeringSpectrum Місяць тому
Try to watch the Portland race. That was absolutely wild last year!
@username_mcusernameface
@username_mcusernameface Місяць тому
@@GarageSupra Ah yes, the series called supercars... that doesn't actually use supercars.
@npc4188
@npc4188 Місяць тому
can you talk more in depth on japan super formula, they are second fastest vehicles in the world next to F1 on road course and seems to me like no body knows them
@va1korion
@va1korion Місяць тому
You picked the worst corners for the "it's not about safety" argument. Might as well have included Tamburello of Imola
@vomithaus1
@vomithaus1 20 днів тому
A balanced distribution of winners is not the goal. There are already many racing series that show that. The engineering behind the cars... nobody cares about because they are all the same. Formula E's mistake is homogonizong the cars. It would be a perfect platform for a competition between tire, suspension, energy conservation, and aerodynamics. Give everyone the same battery to work with. It would be like the old can am series with a fixed gas tank size.
@retromaniaco_br7422
@retromaniaco_br7422 19 днів тому
FE is doing the right approach. Gen 3 car is smaller than Gen 2 (which was smaller than Gen 1) and has less downforce and more power. F1 should at least follow a similar route. 2026 cars will be smaller, but this isn't not enough.
@Very_Grumpy_Cat
@Very_Grumpy_Cat Місяць тому
Have you raced against Jan Magnussen
@gwgammell
@gwgammell Місяць тому
Need that bourbon glazed carrot recipe
@daveblock4061
@daveblock4061 Місяць тому
I love the sound of a screaming NA engine behind my head. Nothing can replace or replicate that. It is more fun to drive a slow cat fast than to drive a fast car slow.
@robertmiller6444
@robertmiller6444 Місяць тому
I agree that a street circuit presents challenges that don't exist (to the same degree) on road courses. Bu that's also the thing of it for me - I don't like street circuits. To me, street circuits just seem to be a "next best alternative" when you don't have a proper road course available. For me, racing is about driving the road and race craft ... not about avoiding walls. It's just generally worse from both a spectator perspective and a driver perspective for me. But then I'm used to spectating and driving some pretty excellent road courses. And I agree that modern top tier racing has pretty sterile and, for me uninteresting. It's also become quite gimmicky to manufacture "passing" and other preferred outcomes. Anymore, I almost prefer club level racing over modern pro racing. I'd rather see just a few well earned passes earned by racecraft as opposed to a lot of manufactured "passing" at the push of a button for the sake manufacturing passes. And this notion of trying to manufacturing competition by hobbling winners. If you're faster because you're better and have things figured out, you should be allowed to be faster. You shouldn't be artificially hobbled just to manufacture "competition".
@RedmondBarryII
@RedmondBarryII Місяць тому
Shows FE racing on an abandoned concrete airport: "They drive on real street circuits"
@limbeboy7
@limbeboy7 Місяць тому
TBF an abandoned parking lot is technically part of a civilian street.... not a purposed built race track.
@Ramonatho
@Ramonatho Місяць тому
There's a really interesting story unrelated to Formula E about that place, they tried to open that airport for years and just couldn't do it. So many people used it for so many things in the mean time to keep money for it coming in, Formula E was kinda late to the party on that one.
@username_mcusernameface
@username_mcusernameface Місяць тому
Also, 95% of F1 fans will tell you there are way too many street circuits, they all suck with the possible exceptions of Singapore and Azerbaijan, and there need to be a lot fewer of them.
@areebsiddiqui758
@areebsiddiqui758 Місяць тому
@@limbeboy7 What civilians are driving around on an abandoned airport like its a street?
@bhew7409
@bhew7409 Місяць тому
I've always loved F1 but the way the championship was given to RB then rules made for Newey has really hurt the sport. I've missed a race already this season and wasnt bothered tbh,
@user-qx7tm5df8j
@user-qx7tm5df8j Місяць тому
street curcuits are just ass imo. for drivers and spectators. you cant even see far
@paulwilson5451
@paulwilson5451 Місяць тому
Simply put the drivers more scared of hurting the car in practice by hitting a wall and they are of hurting theirselves
@ev4n.f_s
@ev4n.f_s Місяць тому
what happened to overdrive? I love that channel and miss the car videos
@ivan_domangaming9359
@ivan_domangaming9359 Місяць тому
This video really change my mind about formula E, i really need to also watch it
@solidonaso9763
@solidonaso9763 14 днів тому
You can find all the races un the official app or site
@MarkGFRex
@MarkGFRex Місяць тому
I used to enjoy watching Formula E but now it's gone behind a paywall I can't justify another subscription grrrr. Such a shame.
@onetripwonders
@onetripwonders Місяць тому
Well as a beer league sim racer I can second the hypothesis having raced and crashed in both. F1 cars are the sweetest cars to drive, which is why they are the pinnacle. In real life though, those wheels require a very sharp mind to race with.
@Jasongilliar
@Jasongilliar 3 дні тому
Group stages are worse, like u mix ppl up, imagine beeing in a group with max lando lewis and fernando rather than with lance logan and valterie
@josephharrison5639
@josephharrison5639 Місяць тому
NASCAR had 15 different winners in 36 races last year, if we exclude superspeedways(many fans see as random) that’s 13 in 30. Now let’s exclude drivers who only won on road courses 10 at 24 races. When compared in this metric clearly nascar has the most competitive field of the Motorsports presented
@sebastiangiovannella7778
@sebastiangiovannella7778 Місяць тому
I totally forgot Formula E was a thing lol
@emilienamaury3839
@emilienamaury3839 Місяць тому
12:03 '"to stop a shunt" what is that ? I don't know what that mean.
@HimanXK
@HimanXK Місяць тому
A shunt means going into the wall. If you break even a little too late you'll crash
@emilienamaury3839
@emilienamaury3839 Місяць тому
@@HimanXK thanks you a lot, like I'm french, I don't know at all the expression or some word. si thx for this answer.
@babyeatingfoxes1675
@babyeatingfoxes1675 Місяць тому
I love everything about internal combustion engines. I love speed more than anything. If electric can go faster then gas, lets go.
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