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Using miles to evaluate batteries is ridiculous and provides very little information. What counts is price per Whr of capacity, cost per cycle, cycle life, cell voltage range between full charge and discharge, gravimetric and volumetric energy and power density, charge and discharge C rates, ability to manufacture at scale, and safety. All of these put together determine a battery cells suitability for its purpose, and a battery must meet specific combinations of these attributes, be integrated into a specific battery pack, and be matched to a specific vehicle to be able to be eligible to be a "million mile" battery.

Always keep in mind lab-bench to production line is a process that can take years if it can be done at all.

still waiting for those 4680s at scale

Sodium over Lithium sounds like a win.

Battery chemistry candidates are legion. Few will make it to market. But if.nobody looks, then for damn sure, nobody will find better chemistries. Lots of people are looking, but few have a better track record than Jeff Dahn and his Dalhousie University team. They've been amazing. I'm always happy for updates on the research front, but I have to temper my excitement for research discoveries. Until new battery types reach market, it's all speculation. Ever notice that in the pure research phase, researchers are happy to publish papers and share results, but when a candidate goes into development for actual products, everyone goes silent? That's how we know that Toyota isn't close to commercializing solid state batteries. They're too noisy. Jeff is pure research. When Tesla grabs his work and works on commercialization, mum's the word. I enjoyed your summary, though. There really should be no doubt, better batteries are coming.

3.7 MILLION MILES BATTERIES=INSANELEY GOOD!! OMG - That is just amazing. NMC. Go Tesla.

My instant reaction (ha, get it?) is Li+Na+. Tesla would not have pulled the trigger on a lithium refinery if pure sodium was around the corner. Reaction two would be NMC is not a player in Tesla’s line-up until the sigma around cobalt is cleared up. Brilliant insight on the lab, btw. Shines a huge light on their advancements in DBE and the formulation of the 4680.

I always knew Tesla was salty! Now the drivers can be too! Particularly in a collision.

Sodium ION will be the next generation commercial scale energy storage.

Great Exploration in Energy storage system

OMG, you managed to further extended my utmost confidence as a long TSLA stock investor, a Tesla Owner, and yes I admit it, a Tesla FanBoy! What an insightful video you have created!

Love your content always extremely info-ducative!

I think that with this battery innovation I am hoping that battery replacement when needed will come down drastically in price to prolong the shelf life of a vehicle so one does not have to buy a new entire car….sure other parts will have to be replaced but it should be more affordable incentivizing people to retain their vehicle…inexpensive battery replacement is another holy grail….

This is just crazy stuff! I mean how advanced can it really get?

Need a battery that does not burst into flames that can't be put out.

Killer content!

Use it for Power Wall and other energy storage solutions.

Except that last battery requires cobalt - and is there enough on earth? I'm more excited by LFP and sodium because of the relative abundance of the materials.

Since making NMC batteries uses far less cobalt than the oil & gas business does, the million-mile battery seems like it's the best. As the oil & gas business shrinks, the total amount of cobalt mined will also be reduced. In the meantime, surely other sources of cobalt can be found!

I didn’t hear a number for energy density of the Nmc chemistry. If it attains the mythical 500 kw/kg and gets better with age are we talking commercial aviation applications? Cobalt sourcing problems could be mitigated if the batteries last forever?

The question is: Can this research breakthrough translate into a production or engineering breakthrough?

Where, when and the cost waiting with bated breath.

Heightened is not just a fancy way to say Higher/increased

Zinc with EOSE has huge potential!

As noted by @GoCoyote There are many variables to consider. For instance, a "smaller" vehicle (mentioning no names 😉) Considerations. Superficially Vehicle cost? (so pack/ cell cost) would be important, . In which case "choose the cheapest cell!! . But based on what? Sodium, touted as "the next cheap option!" May seem obvious, but has poor volumetric density (it's "big") . Will it physically fit while providing decent range? . What's the form factor? CATL are currently telling us their new cells, combined in a structural pack, provide great density *at pack level* due to their square section format (no air gaps in the pack) this also makes the *vehicle* efficient, because a pack which removes structure from the body is a double benefit. . Next, the chemistry. Nickel vs LFP (and now) vs LMP vs M3P (ironic name??) . High gravimetric energy density (Nickel based) may be associated with the larger, "top end" performance vehicles, but, actually, in a small vehicle, the pack will necessarily account for a higher percentage of vehicle weight. . Also, with less physical space, higher high density means fewer cells. . As a consequence, it could be logical to fit a low physical volume, high energy density structural pack in the smallest vehicle. . Add a high C rate charge capability and the pack could be made even smaller, compounding the *vehicle* efficiency gain. . Another factor. Production efficiency . The "Ace in the hole" of the Tesla 4680? Small modular factory. Low energy production. Energy dense, low resistance *mechanical* construction. "Machine gun" factory output. . THAT'S 69% of the 4680 advantage (imo) . THEN add the possibility of various chemistries? . Imagine being able to ship a modular factory to a site, then tweak the process (chemistry) to suit the application? . Bulk storage (Megapack) factory? 4680 Sodium (Calcium doped)? . Home storage (Powerwall)? 4680 LMFP/ M3P? . SEMI? Long range (650m+) 4680 NMC / M3P? . MID range (400+) 4680 LMFP? . Cars ....pick one. . Taxi/ Compact (same vehicle!) *Possibly* structural 4680 40kWh high C rate NMC with 5-10 minute 150 mile charge? . Endless permutations..... But nothing set in stone. The "Battery Wars" will continue!

What happened to eliminating Cobalt, the use of sodium and lithium battery combo ? This article confused me.

I drive about 20000 miles a year. Do the math and figure out how long my battery should last. One and done.

dunno why water is a problem for sodium ion batteries. some of the safest cheapest materials are using aqueous electrolyte and common sodium hydroxide as the carrier

Just to be fair, what happens if a sodium ion battery or petrol tank is punctured In an accident? A fuel tank would leak and only catch fire if there is a heat source in proximity. A sodium ion battery would go BOOM immediately. At least you wouldn't get burnt first.

Anyone who can read the periodic table can tell you that the energy density of sodium batteries, compared to lithium batteries, would be terrible.

It seems as though CATL researchers are kicking Jeff Dahn’s ass

3.7 million mile NMC would be incredible.... good lord. Hoping we can safely ethically access these raw materials.

“Discovered a major breakthrough?”

Outstanding

Rather than cheaper, I hope they also seek to develop the best performing battery regardless of cost. There is also huge demand for higher quality batteries for other uses.

McDermitt Caldera

Longevity isn't a word. The word you're thinking of is durability.

A basic science lesson : Atomic # of Lithium = 3 Atomic # of Sodium = 11 Both Li+ and Na+ carry single positive charge. Na+ has a weight penalty of 3.67 times that of Li+ One needs almost 4 times the mass of Lithium to make a battery that can store equivalent amount of charge with Sodium. This is a fundamental fact in nature which you cannot overcome. Sodium batteries will never reach the energy density per kg of Lithium batteries. Too much hype circulating. Yes, Sodium is cheaper!!! Good candidate for ESS. Can potentially replace LFP for ESS applications. I am in the battery industry.

Did a cute psychic technique in which a perused the intersected letters of sentences I wrote and NA of the verticle letter reading down meshed with BA of the line underneath. It was something to do with a super sodium ion battery being compounded with barium!

Thank you ELON MUSK!

Almost no real information in this video. Keep in mind Tesla has missed all their milestones for the 4680 because they can't make the dry cathode at the necessary volumes. They might be ble to fix it, but so far it's a big bust. So be sure to apply a Mars sized grain of salt to anything Tesla says about their batteries.

6:40 - Title topic

salt batteries that get safer, wow

Well, as a European, the Teslas I can get use only Chinese batteries anyway, so, as a customer, I won't benefit. As an investor, as China's currently most of the production, I will benefit some… But the Chinese seem to be about as good in this field as Tesla, so I don't complain.

Sodium ion will eventually be King !!!

Tesla needs to fix problems with 4680 battery first

現在開発中の既存Li4680でさえ大量生産は難航してます。Naへの置き換えには10年位の開発試験期間が必要に成るでしょう😫

Years ago Tesla bought Jeff Dohn’s company

Lithium is mostly sourced from Australia. Do you research?

How stable is this sodium ion? I have seen what sodium and water do. Even more reactive than lithium and water.

I'm holding out for nuclear batteries, which will hold a megawatt of power and fit in your hand and last a thousand years.

what about the latest in problems with the batteries!!!!!

😂while these egg heads are trying to make a battery prototype 🐌 , factories in China are already setting up production lines 🚗, by the time the US plant starts production, the competition is working on the next generation.

What they really need to do - as a matter of utmost urgency - is create a battery chemistry that does not spontaneously combust and explode with thermal runaway. Otherwise insurance companies are going to shut down the EV revolution before it has really begun.

Hopefully it will allow the EV to charge from 0 to 100 percent in 7 minutes instead of hours, the same amount of time it takes me to fully fuel. Hopefully it will increase range to 500 to 515 miles, just like my 2021 jaguar XJl i just brought. Maybe Tesla will come out with a full size, luxury car for those of us who prefer luxury. Hopefully these batteries wount burst into flames. Maybe they will come out with charging stations that charges all EVs just like all gas nosals fits all gas cars. I would love to buy an EV but they just have to be improved. Till then I'll keep my gas car for 7 minutes down times and far greater range, giving me the ability to keep moving when on a long distance over the road travels.......

BS.

Stop sayin “advancement”. The word is “advance”.

Sodium sucks

Clickbait nonsense. Zero chance this battery chemistry is used in the next 10yrs.

Too much BS, Blah blah blah blah!!!

Boring stock footage

4680 still isn’t even used 3 years after battery day.

Just a joke😂