Gonna wait for the 5070 Ti Super Ultra Extreme Mountain Dew Edition

Good to know that Rich runs at a stable 72fps. Would’ve thought that he would be running at a higher fps.

Looks like the Ti Super exists simply to carry 16GB of memory, that's why it uses AD103 just for its 256-bit bus, while a whole lot of SMs and L2 cache being disabled to keep the performance tier down enough, apart from the memory bandwidth bonus. Not very compelling offer for that price.

This is one card that should be heavily tested in 4K scenarios as this is that card people claimed to be in an awkward spot as it has the power for 4K but the memory bandwidth could hold it back. So I would have liked to see the TI and TI Super go head to head in more 4K scenarios (with comparisons to 1440p and looking at the scaling)

Loved the video DF. I prefer these videos way more than the bar charts other channels do. Some performance testing at native res, some with upscaling, some with RT, etc. I also find that the games you guys benchmark are much more in line with what I'm interested in.

Here in Canada, TUF Gaming 4070 Ti Super costs $1,099. 4080 Costs $1,629. That's enough said lol. Obviously, you just go with the Ti Super. Plus, 4070 Ti costs just $100 less than 4070 Ti Super, so just, again, go with Ti Super for the slight performance uplift along with 33% more VRAM. However - if you don't need RT, DLSS, DLDSR, or CUDA for professional work, just go with 7900 XT obviously. Though DLSS is very good and comes with significant uplifts to image fidelity over native res, even though, yes, it's an upscaled image. One can't argue with the insanely good anti-aliasing it produces, though.

Truly one of the most bespoke video review implementations of all time.

5:11 "Meanwhile! At the Corridor of Doom!"

I think more users were excited for the 4070ti super than the 4070 super with the ram and bus speed being the selling point. After seeing recent reviews I will wait and see the price to performance of the last super.

Another great DF video, great information as always. What screen is that behind you? Is it your main display for work and play?

Love to see a Battlestar Galactica reference. Great review. So say we all!

Cudos on the Battlestar Galactice Dradis reference!

I’m rocking a 980 ti and still happy. But eh, I’m on pcsx2 at the moment. Had this card since 2017. I’m a dinosaur.

side-lit Rich in a hoodie makes his transition to Sith Lord ever more obvious.

1:49 according to the Nvidia website the 4070Ti also has two NVENC encoders.

Solid review. Where I am the price for the 4070 Ti and the Ti Super are almost identical. Its a no brainer for me as I was going to get the 4070 Ti anyway.

I truely am thankful for all that do reviews of products, the info is great. I just can't stand how most just pan these releases based on the fact of which cards they are replacing. 4070 ti to 4070 ti super. Ignoring the fact that most of us do not buy $500+ graphics card at every release. I bought in 2020 a 2070 super, I am super excited at the increases I will get on the 4070 ti super in my system. Compare how Cyberpunk runs 2070 vs this card? Advise if this is a good time to make that upgrade etc. I think it is and am stoked that I choose to wait until the supers were released. I will see you again in another 4 or 5 years when it time to upgrade again.

What’s so stupid is the problem was never the performance. No one wanted another 5% performance to tip them over the edge for a purchase. The problem is the price. The existing 4070 cards just needed a $200 price drop. So does the 4080 tbh. Should be 80 for $800, 70ti for $600 and 70 for $400.

Love the dradis reference...... I miss the BSG 2004 universe..... so say we all...

Everyone missing the 48MB cache cut from the 64 on the 4080. Matches the 4070 super cache, so this is why performance is closer to the 4070ti.

That Billboard at 4:43 Though Lol

This is the best video on the RTX 4070ti super. Thank you very much for your help. Also thank you very much for all the work you've done on this video. It is much appreciated

Great video, dull question how to you manage to get all benchmark of each card on one screen..

Gap between the 4080 and 4070 SuperTI® (where the 4070 TISU seems to be underperforming it's specs) might be down to TDP and thermal limits. The same TDP as the plain TI might not be enough power to drive AD103 and is leaving it starved. (I read somewhere that newer Nvidia chips can disable entire SMs for power saving). So the extra shaders might not be getting utilized in titles that reach the TDP limits.

Disappointing. We've had to wait all this time for an AD103 below $1k USD and the only thing going for it is the extra VRAM. Nvidia have never looked so stingy to me. I'm looking forward to see how the 4080 Super performs when it's out.

didnt know about the 1800p hack. thank you for your knowledge good sir. subscribed.

That fracking BSG reference 😂

Let's take a moment to appreciate DFs video titles - an accurate summary instead of clickbait!

It's peace of mind you buy with the 16GB version, 12GB just don't cut it for 4070ti level performance. It's just a little faster than the 12GB version but 4-5 years from now it will still slap while 4070ti 12GB will have to reduce texture settings. Considering it's the same price that 4070ti was and replaces it in the lineup, it's just Nvidia recognizing this is what this card should have been from the start.

Well dang. Just ordered this yesterday

Thanks, would have been nice to see more 4K results though, just like you said the difference introduced by the wider bus is probably more noticeable there, so I don't understand the heavy focus on 1440P.

I got this card because it was the only nvidia card with 16gb of vram that didn’t cost $1,000. It pretty much handles absolutely everything max settings 1440p. You can pathtrace with dlss 3.5 and it surprisingly plays very well

Keeping my 3080Ti for now. I will have to tey out 1800p since im playing at 4K

You mentioned you were using 1800p res, and used dlss performance over that. How did you set 1800p res? I tried using CRU but it doesn’t work for me, and for some reason monitor hz is only 59.99something hz inside CRU.

They basically just bumped RTX 4070 TI to 16 Gig of Memory and not much more. Saw some benchmarks were on most Triple AAA Titles you will see 3 - 5 FPS Increase.

Great vid rich !!!!

Love the BSG reference.

Mm, that has always bothered me, all those DP ports and only a single HDMI, So very grateful for those few models/brands that include an extra HDMI (yes I know you can usually use an adapter or a DP -> HDMI Cable, still a hassle)

I haven't looked into it much but is there something you are using to push the 1800p resolution in games? is it a manual adjustment in the specific game ini's you are using? or is this a custom resolution in the nvidia settings?

I know you don’t normally do overclocking. But since the RTX 4070 Ti Super is on AD103. Is it possible to overclock it to be closer to a RTX 4080? Would be interesting to test.

Am I misunderstanding your intro? The 4070Ti non-super has dual encoders. Just double checked on Nvidia's website too.

have to wait on that dang ol' battlemage, honestly it will fit my build better since I want my pc to be hybrid caster/melee

does anyone think that more driver updates will help out the card a bit in the future?

it doesnt make sense how the bigger die and 700+ more cuda cores only end up with 5% uplift. nvdia is definitely holding back the performance of the ti super by not giving it enough TDP to leave room for 4080

I'll just wait for the Egregious model.

I hear my EVGA 3080 FTW talking to me: " Dude, give it up. You are still good to go with me"

I gave thumbs up for BSG DRADIS reference. ^_^

Why isn't there the exact model in the HUD which card got tested? The MSI Ventus is underperforming due to faulty power measurment.

Could driver updates make a meaningful difference with this card?

Thanks Rich

4070ti has dual encoders too. the cheapest in the stack to have dual. specifically why i chose it.

I really hope Nvidia gets their act together. Hoping to upgrade by the time the 6000 series comes out. If prices are still whack I’ll have to hold onto my 4070 until 7000.

Gonna wait for the 8070

Ive been using 1800p (nvidia) over 2160p for years, recently got a 7800xt and found its supported by default, dont need to use extra sware anymore.

Why wouldn't you use 4K DLSS performance over 1800P DLSS Balanced? It should be about the same base resolution. I'm kinda confused here. Sounds like if you have a 4K monitor and are upscaling it to a non-native resolution, you wouldn't get as good of an image.

This renamed 4075 and releasing at £500 would have made it this years 1080ti that was an awesome card at the time although much more expensive and still hanging in there today. Anyway the pricing has become silly, grab a 6700xt and hang out a few years. Everything higher than a 6650xt or 6700xt for the average gamer is just burning money for something you have no idea how to get maximum use from and the users that edit/stream/play 4k ultra settings already have the money to burn for a 7900xt or 4080/4090 so this card is not nearly in the right price range for what it is.

I'm watching this from the future. I'm not too distant though, only 7hours in the future and 4080s is not out yet. Anyone from the right future?

i think the new super card is TGP (power) limited

All they had to do was raise the cache, but they don't want to do that because it would put it way too close to the performance of the vanilla 4080.

Guys I got myself rtx 4070 super which has coil whine. How does one live with that? Store can't get it back since it isn't a defect

“Quote unquote ‘drop new videos’” 😂

How does this compare to 7900 XTX? They are around the same price(within 80-100). Where I live.

is there any possibility to replace 4070 ti super bios to 4080??

There like over 50 of the 4070 ti supers sitting at my microcenter

How do you play at 1800p on pc ? I have a 4k monitor but i would like to try and see how much of a difference there is when playing at 1800p

Thanks for 1800p figures, i use it.

Had to RMA my 7900xt for hot spot issues. Think I’m gonna get 4070super for my second pc that I hook to tv. Will keep 7900xt in my main rig once it comes back but I really want nvidia option cuz dls is really far ahead of fsr. I mean Allen wake looks like shit on any amd card.

2 years without GPU... I can wait one more.

DRADIS! I see you, Rich.

the 800 pricepont is in such a weird spot. Better to just get the 4080 super for 999 for a much better card. Especially now that the 4090 had its price increased

I can't believe this didn't end with "unless you're watching this in the future where you can find out right now, but in the here and now, that's all there is from me."

Honestly, I’m waiting for RTX 5090 Ti Ultra Pro Max in partnership with Apple edition.

RTX4080 Ti Super would be a best seller at $899.99!

But what if it's from the 2070 super standpoint it's everything I dreamed of ❤

GO for one endocrinologist Doctor! And ask him for make a Thyroid checkup!

What happens is you push the power limit higher?

I'm only interested in the 4080 Super, but only if it can actually be purchased for $1k.

I'm a simple man. I see a larger memory bus than a previous version, and I'm interested.😅

Getting this card for machine learning... Any thoughts?

I clicked on this video because of the bsg footage in the preview

this guy would do an awesome Elmer Fudd "Say your pwayers, wabbit!"

Here in Australia we have some crazy pricing. 4070 is ~900 aud, 4070 super is 1119 msrp, 4070 ti is ~1150, 4070 ti super is 1499 msrp, 4080 is ~1600, and 4080 super is 1870 msrp. 4090 is over 3k.

I am going from the 2000 series to a 4070 Ti Super. So overall I was looking less at how it compares to previous cards (though still relevant) and more at how it fills the space between the 4070 and 4080. Everything I’m seeing makes the 4070 Ti Super feel pretty good midway between the $600 and $1000. Where the 4070 Super starts to strain a bit at top end 1440p path tracing on games like AW2, the Ti Super can handle it comfortably and smoothly. That extra 10-15fps average, and keeping the lows in the mid-50s instead of the 40s really is something you can feel. And because I also output to a 4k TV for couch play, having something that can more comfortably handle high settings with smooth frames with those top quality games (again AW2 being a fave of mine, and one I definitely want to see at its best) is a big deal. I think the Ti Super may be a bit more niche in who it’s for, as most players are probably comfortable with high end 1440p and aren’t as worried about the maxed out path tracing that only a few games have, or they are leaning heavier into 4k gaming and want to invest more into really getting the most out of it. But as someone looking for uncompromising 1440p gaming and high performing 4k without really going in heavy on the 4k? It feels like a great option. Still waiting for mine to arrive and hope I’m right about it based on my consumer research.

Comparing the 4070ti super to 4080. The 4080 has 15% more cores, 33% more L2 cache, 16% more ROPS. Not sure about lovelace but heard a rumor that if power throttled instead of traditionally down clocking, a percentage of SMs are deactivated if the watts aren't there, can someone confirm.

1800p on 4k? Does that even look good since it is not native?

will 4070ti super work perfectly with i5 13500?

would have appreciated benching 4K because I have 4070Ti for a 4K TV

The 4070 TI has dual NVENC encoders.

I have no idea RTX 3090 performs lower than non-90, 4000 series RTX card; I thought that beast of GPU with 24GB memory could hold for like another 4 years or something, but nope. Good thing I don't spend on it and just happy with my 3080 for now.

Everyone is after Jensen's leather jacket. I'll take Rich's DF Hoodie!

The 70 Ti Super was always gonna be the card that made the least sense in the new stack imo. Really confused me when I saw a lot of people acting like it was gonna be the one to buy. Just save the money on a 70 Super and get really similar performance, or spend the extra on an 80 Super for a massive performance jump.

My specs: 16GB 3200MHz SODIMM Ryzen 5 4600H, GTX 1650 4GB DDR6 I'm basically able to run the new generation PS5 games at 1600x900 LoL which I a fair compromise I suppose? I think I'm gonna wait another generation

is it worth moving up from a 2040 super to 4070 super?

I think most people including myself looked at the specs and thought that card will get to within 5% to a 4080, now that’s it’s out, it’s hard to pinpoint where it’s being held back. Is it the TDP limit Is it the lower L2 cache Or both of those. It’s clocked pretty well and shader count isn’t that far off. I suppose you could use a strix and up the power to try test the tdp but tbh, I would buy a cheaper version of a 4080 or 4080s before getting a strix. That that’s a choice for everyone to make themselves. Good video as always DF ty.

why use balanced preset for dlss at 1440p?...

This seems like a better value upgrade to me than the 4070 Super. That GPU costs 10% more than the 4070 for 15% more performance. 5% more FPS/$. Here you're getting 8% more FPS per dollar, and 4 GB more VRAM.

at this prices higher midrange gpus are now a luxury

Straight gangster, Rich!

I'm going get one