Radeon RX 7600 XT Review: Can AMD Eliminate The RTX 4060?
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Video Index
00:00 - Welcome to Hardware Unboxed
00:39 - Ad-spot
01:46 - Radeon RX 7600 XT
04:40 - Test System Specs
05:03 - Resident Evil 4
05:39 - A Plague Tale: Requiem
06:25 - Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty
06:52 - Dying Light 2 Stay Human
07:25 - Watch Dogs: Legion
07:51 - Forza Horizon 5
08:18 - Total War: Warhammer III
08:44 - Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered
09:09 - Hogwarts Legacy
09:30 - Halo Infinite
10:10 - The Last of Us Part I
10:43 - Hitman 3
11:08 - Power Consumption
11:44 - 12 Game Average, 1080p
12:02 - 12 Game Average, 1440p
12:21 - 12 Game Average, 4K
12:43 - Ray Tracing - Resident Evil 4
12:59 - Ray Tracing - A Plague Tale: Requiem
14:03 - Ray Tracing - Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty
14:47 - Ray Tracing - Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered
15:09 - Ray Tracing - Star Wars Jedi: Survivor
15:27 - Ray Tracing - Fortnite
15:43 - Ray Tracing - 6 Game Average
16:32 - Cost Per Frame, MSRP
17:39 - Cost Per Frame, Retail
18:17 - Temps and Clocks
21:10 - Final Thoughts
AMD Radeon RX 7600XT Review
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@Scytherman 3 місяці тому
AMD never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
@forog1 3 місяці тому
LOL Right. When Nvidia releases a bad product AMD says "I can do better"
@BudgetGamerz 3 місяці тому
Truth 😂😂😂
@kraithaywire 3 місяці тому
LMAO
@josephpapcun8141 3 місяці тому
This comment wins the internet today
@nicksw84 3 місяці тому
Brilliant 🤣
@ravenfeeder1892 3 місяці тому
A GPU designed to make the 6700XT look even better.
@6ch6ris6 3 місяці тому
as a 6700 XT user, I welcome this somehow :D
@zodwraith5745 3 місяці тому
@@6ch6ris6 It's quite satisfying when a brand new GPU is released and it's no better in price or performance to your "old" one.
@peaj4812 3 місяці тому
@@zodwraith5745 Or way way worse. I upgraded from an Rx 6800 XT to an Rx 6950 Xt because it was about 20% faster, so within 15% of the 7900 xt, but I got it for $450, almost half the launch price.
@zodwraith5745 3 місяці тому
@@peaj4812 Yeah I really can't figure out why the 7900s are still so expensive. They're trying to compete with their prices anchored to a $1200 4080 and $800 70ti that no one is buying.
@pato9804 3 місяці тому
Lmao😂 also hardware inbox has the 6700xt at 450$ and it is actually 350$
@johnhenderson7285 3 місяці тому
The 6800 is incredible value in the mid range right now along with the 6700 XT and imo the 2 best cards in the $300-450 price range.
@craciunator99 3 місяці тому
I got a 6700xt for $200 and it feels like a total steal, big upgrade from my 1070. 6700xt even at regular price is still probably the best price/performance out there.
@sgredsch 3 місяці тому
Yeah get the last gen product as long as you can
@NamAim1991 3 місяці тому
I was able to pick a 6800 used for $250. I'm hoping it lasts me a while.
@maynardburger 3 місяці тому
@@sgredsch We shouldn't have to buy old gen parts to get decent value. This was never how it worked previously. And older parts always age worse relative to the current state of things. We're just getting screwed over in general by all involved, including the countless consumers who keep buying Nvidia's stuff.
@johnhenderson7285 3 місяці тому
@@craciunator99 Wow that is very cheap...did you get it openbox? New? I have a GTX 1080 and I don't usually play current gen games like Hogwarts, Spider-man, Halo Infinite...I tend to stay behind the current gen games by 4-5 years so the GTX 1080 is plenty powerful for my use case. Once the 6800 XT drops to say $150 in the used market I will upgrade.
@aerosw1ft 3 місяці тому
Expectations: new GPU silicon, better memory subsystem, 10-15% faster than 7600, MSRP $300. Reality: basically an overclocked 7600 with 16GB VRAM and $60 premium, gets destroyed by 6700XT at the same price. It seems like AMD really are allergic to gaining market share.
@jotinhafilho5920 3 місяці тому
AMD loves wasting opportunities to dethrone Nvidia.
@OneDollaBill 3 місяці тому
The performance gains on sub 500$ cards are a big joke in this gen. 3060ti beats the 4060ti in some titles. Same with the 7600xt loses to old 6650xt and so on. This needed to be at least 6700xt level for 300$ for it to make any sense for anyone to buy.
@prostagma6055 3 місяці тому
Bro they just added 50 bucks of vram and raised the price by 50 bucks you want better price performance go buy 6700-6700xt the card is meant to be cheapest possible 16 gig card for workloads that need that like modeling or ai 8 gigs for example cripples most free ai tools
@Diavolo222 3 місяці тому
@@jotinhafilho5920yeah we keep bashing nvidia but it s not their fault the competitors dont want to gain market share by doing strategic releases.
@josejuanandrade4439 3 місяці тому
@@jotinhafilho5920 I dunno man... I'd say AMD is just doing very Nvidia moves of lately. Is hard to tell them apart.
@Fina1Ragnarok 3 місяці тому
As time goes on, I feel more and more validated in choosing a 6700xt. Doesn't hurt that I got it stupid cheap too, second hand.
@vinylSummer 3 місяці тому
6700xt really is THE choice for midrange builds
@HK23453 3 місяці тому
same here lol. im proud of my rx 6700 xt
@halocubed6788 3 місяці тому
Same here. Might upgrade to an rtx 5070 next year as long as nvidia can deliver.
@Yerinjibbang 3 місяці тому
damnn 6700 xt is still the king!
@SkylarMelo 3 місяці тому
Same haha
@EPR1994 3 місяці тому
So this is basically what the $269 card should be and the 7600 needs to be $199. Don’t get me wrong I love AMD and these aren’t bad cards, I think they should just work on the pricing. 7800xt for $500, 7900xt for $700-$720 and the 7900xtx for $850-$900 aren’t bad prices but the 7700xt, 7600xt and 7600 feel overpriced. 7700xt for $369-399 should be a good deal, 7600xt for $269-279 and the 7600 for $199.
@Davinmk 3 місяці тому
a lot of the time when people say stuff like this it’s always something nonsensical like “the 4070 super should have cost 300$!” but this is actually accurate, this is the pricing for it to be actually competitive
@ondrejdobrota7344 3 місяці тому
Pricing for all AMD cards is riddiculous, but AMD doenst care about customers or sales any more.
@zodwraith5745 3 місяці тому
Even the ones you can argue for have issues. The 7800xt looks ok against the 4070, but bad against AMD's own 6800xt, and both 7900s are way too much to pay for GPUs that can't even do competent raytracing. Who wants to pay over $700 for a new GPU that still has compromises? Pretty much everything from 7000 series is just a fat disappointment and the only reason anyone even pays attention is because Nvidia is overpriced. But the whole reason Nvidia is _gaining_ market share is because once you hold your nose and pay Nvidia's greed tax you have a superior experience due to better upscaling, better frame gen, and vastly better RT performance. This is why Steve and Tim say AMD really needs to be 20% cheaper than Nvidia to be competitive.
@MrMartinSchou 3 місяці тому
Yeah, it's the AMD version of the 4060 Ti 16 GB, just in a lower performance tier. Expensive memory upgrade at the cost of power draw, but Nvidia has a far less severe power consumption hit. For example, the performance jump at 1440p is 4.7%/18.8% for the 7600XT and 2.5%/23.6% for the 4060Ti 16 GB.
@dm203 3 місяці тому
more like this should be the 7600. and the current 7600 should not exist.
@Crumbbum 3 місяці тому
Thanks for another great review and getting it out before everyone else I think. I noticed at 6:27 the RX6600 is suspiciously high. In between the 7600XT and 2070.
@minhphamngoc8675 3 місяці тому
I think he accidently had fsr on
@Eternalduoae 3 місяці тому
Personally, i believe the label is switched between the RX 6600 and RX 6650 XT in that one graph.
@nathaniel1207 3 місяці тому
maybe that test data is from before CDPR changed the presets for the graphics, or an accidental swap in the labelling of 2 cards, probably the 6650xt if i had to guess.
@fajaradi1223 3 місяці тому
@@Eternalduoae I'm with you in this one.
@nonametito2599 3 місяці тому
I noticed that too. I think it was a small mistake where he swapped the label of the RX 6600 with the RX 6650 XT.
@AnirudhTammireddy 3 місяці тому
5:00 The graphic of "test system specs" is a fantastic way to let viewers in. Thanks! Hope you keep that in. I think you guys 1 upped GN, LTT on the smooth intros too!
@AshtonCoolman 3 місяці тому
AMD really needed to make sure it matched the 6700 XT by adding more hardware resources. A 16GB 6700 XT with AV1 support would sell well.
@GewelReal 3 місяці тому
It's called RX 7700 XT
@dededede9257 3 місяці тому
@@GewelReal she have only 12gb
@deathtoinfidelsdeusvult2184 3 місяці тому
@@GewelReal only has 12 GB while also more expensive.
@KrisDee1981 3 місяці тому
No point having 16GB on a GPU like this. 12GB 6700XT for $300 and 4060/4060ti is dead!
@Eleganttf2 3 місяці тому
@@dededede9257 you act as if 12GB is a sin lol more vram doesnt help more buddy (unless its only 8gb)
@atalkhan6698 3 місяці тому
I really appreciate that you guys talk about the texture not loading on an 8gb card, I would have not known that if I was not informed by you guys.
@fVNzO 3 місяці тому
I really like these more personal videos with you in the frame and not just B roll. I know this has been going on for a while but for someone that has watched this channel since the pascal days the continual evolution of the format is very nice to see.
@DavidWB147 3 місяці тому
What is also interesting to me here, is how well the Intel Arc A770 16 GB holds up *on average*, after a significant number of driver improvements. The RT performance especially, is relatively speaking, respectable. I do own one (not in use currently), and it does seem to have moved from technical curio into a reasonably interesting card. Given it seems to have been built to compete with GeForce 30-series(?), perhaps it bodes decently for Battlemage, if it arrives. Good to see more cards in the low- to mid-range GPUs.
@JordanCorkins 3 місяці тому
For as much garbage as intel has done in the past, I cant help but root for them to get a foothold in this market.
@nimrodery 3 місяці тому
I think the resolution scaling shows there's still some performance left on the table for ARC, especially at 1080p. The drivers have at least matured to the point that most games work. It would be nice to see Intel expand to working with developers to ensure better support on day 1 (they seem to be making a little progress there). Undervolting controls would also be nice.
@Neopulse00 3 місяці тому
I'd suggest looking at Ancient Gameplays recent benchmarks with the RX 7600 and A770. I almost decided to get it until I saw his review.
@zodwraith5745 3 місяці тому
Not to mention the cost per frame of the A750 that's actually 10 bucks less than Steve has it listed. It's been only $200 for quite a while now. Their drivers are starting to get good enough I probably wouldn't recommend people avoid it anymore.
@nimrodery 3 місяці тому
@@Neopulse00 I would have bought either the 6600 or 7600, they both retailed higher than the A750 and you can turn on raytracing without crippling the GPU. Intel just seems to be better at getting their GPUs to sell at MSRP (or less). If you're comparing the 7600 to the A770 there is definitely a market pricing problem.
@BrokenKanuck 3 місяці тому
So glad I picked up the 6700XT before Christmas, stunning card.
@sirgurky 3 місяці тому
I was so looking forward to this GPU! I got a RX 7800 XT in the end but still very exited to see how this performs!
@neoaliens8635 3 місяці тому
Amazing speed Steve! Time to enjoy this blockbuster video fast!
@quwarq 3 місяці тому
The part I like the most in this video is a strategy game like TWWH3 being included in the benchmark, tyvm!
@wvjeepguy8178 3 місяці тому
Two 8-pin connectors? That's a lot of power for a low end card.
@thewhiteknight9923 3 місяці тому
Unlike the 4000 series, 7000 series isn't bragging about power efficiency for a reason
@singlsrvngfrnd 3 місяці тому
Each 8 pin connector is rated for 150 watts...... It's been that way for decades. 2 8 pins is on par.
@MadSupra354 3 місяці тому
Looking at power connectors as an indicator of power consumption is unwise
@Dave-dh7rt 3 місяці тому
@@thewhiteknight9923the efficiency is the same. Faster than the 4060 for a little bit more power draw. Just like the 7900XT is the same efficiency as the 4070 Ti Super. Idk why people keep saying that nvidias lovelace is WAY more efficient, because its NOT.
@Dave-dh7rt 3 місяці тому
@@John-PaulHunt-qy8hd exactly!
@sgredsch 3 місяці тому
@hardwareunboxed glad you included arc this time! thanks Steve! back to you Steve! oops wrong Steve :[
@agkshayanchandrasekar7031 3 місяці тому
Was waiting for this video the whole day
@gallantstryker9897 3 місяці тому
Great videos as always! Im sure the back to back launches keep you on your toes steve. Im curious if yall would do a video on how well DLSS and FSR have aged so far. I have recently seen DLSS help bump my framerate on a game called ark survivial evolved from a pitiful 30 fps at 1440p to a much more bearable 60ish with my 3070ti. Love the content yall put out and keep up the awesome work.
@zactodd3144 3 місяці тому
For me, I agree with the separate name 7600 vs 7600xt. Everyone (incl HUB) has complained in the past about different ram models not being distinct enough... Granted that was also sometimes lesser rams (gt1030) but even all the 3060 models are consuming enough, especially when they changed the CUs as well. This you know there is one significant difference.
@thelazt16 3 місяці тому
Was waiting for this but take too long so I tried getting into 2nd hand market and bought Sapphire Pulse 6700 XT at 200$ 3 weeks ago. Got some problem with it at first as my system won't boot at 3600MHz RAM (GSkill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz 2x8) so I changed it to 3200 and it runs fine. 2 weeks after another problem occur like game crash, hang, even BSOD, so tried reinstalling Windows since I use the onboard graphic before, 5600G, so it could be driver issue, tried with DDU but no dice, so I thought let's just reinstall but still same issue. I thought it was my graphic card but turned out it was my RAM slots all along. Once I moved it to A2B2, my system runs fine and it stays at 3600 MHz just fine. Now, It runs undervolted at stock clock and runs fine without any issue (temp at around 70-75C at full load). Great purchase. 3070 was around 325-350$ so I go AMD. At some point it was the same price but these last months all NVIDIA used cards seems to be going up like crazy. Seems like people are buying theme for AI stuff.
@richardnpaul_mob 3 місяці тому
It's not just the boost clocks but the base clocks that have seen a much more significant bump to clocks. I didn't see if there was a change to game clocks with the XT
@galaxlordcz3933 3 місяці тому
Bought the RX6650XT a year ago, good to see that it holds up fairly well to the 4060, planning to get a new PSU soon enough so a slight overclock should mean I match these newer cards in many games at 1080p.
@tilapiadave3234 2 місяці тому
So the new card owner does the overclock and you are back to being behind again ,,,,,, WHEN will people wake up ,, weaker is WEAKER
@galaxlordcz3933 2 місяці тому
@@tilapiadave3234 I never said that you should get the 6650XT today, all I said was that I am happy with my purchase that happened last year.
@Samantas5855 3 місяці тому
Make the red bars darker on 1% lows
@philodox7599 3 місяці тому
You are a hero! I have a MSI MECH Rx 6650 xt 8GB and over black Friday I got a Sapphire pulse Rx 6700 Xt 12GB for $310 that I still have in the box and was wondering if I should just return it and get the Rx 7600 xt 16 GB.......... I am still not sure what to do but this video helped me A LOT. Thank you very much.
@tilapiadave3234 3 місяці тому
Sell them all and get a RTX 4070 Super :)
@VideogamesAsArt Місяць тому
@@tilapiadave3234 what a terrible advice. So someone who gets 300$ cards is suddenly supposed to get a 600$ product. why not a 7800 XT? why not 7900 XTX? why not RTX 4090?
@tilapiadave3234 Місяць тому
@@VideogamesAsArt So sorry you failed in reading and comprehension in school. Perhaps you would like to join a local finger-painting class :)
@nealkashya 5 днів тому
@@tilapiadave3234 Tbh your comment sounds like someone who lacks basic common sense and critical reasoning skills. Nowhere OP has told that he has got the 6700 XT as a replacement for the 6650 XT and extremely optimistic and soft brained of you to think selling both cards on the used market would fetch him 600$ for the 4070 Super. So maybe sign up for the finger painting classes yourself before putting someone down?
@felipeavlopes 3 місяці тому
I guess that other than rather carefully inspecting games for visual difference, from a performace standpoint the doubled VRAM would only come into play if coupled with a wider memory bus, which we're not seeing really in these latest GPUs unless way up the product stack
@babybackbish 3 місяці тому
We really appreciate you host Steve.
@stormgear896 3 місяці тому
I have already decided to go with 4060 soon until they started showing up the Super series this month. But if they did decide it to release the 7600XT at a better price point I might lean onto them.
@konstantinlozev2272 3 місяці тому
Please, no RTX 4060. It's absolute garbage. Snatch a second hand RTX 3060Ti for USD 250 if you want to go Nvidia.
@joeyr184 3 місяці тому
One pro that is never really mentioned for AMD GPUs is that the Adrenalin Software is really good. You can overclock or undervolt each game separate at the touch of a button.
@andreatilli6227 3 місяці тому
Why would you do that?
@Kuriketto 3 місяці тому
@@andreatilli6227 To reduce fan noise, power consumption and thus heat output for games that don't need the GPU running at full tilt.
@deagle7602 3 місяці тому
@@andreatilli6227someone who likes to overclock but doesn't want to overclock when it's negligible.
@taigewang3534 3 місяці тому
@@andreatilli6227lots of reasons. People normally undervolt these day and it helps with thermals and more importantly power consumption.
@TheBackyardChemist 3 місяці тому
I think you have meant to write undervolt, not "under vault".
@ncohafmuta 3 місяці тому
In the temps/clocks section, it'd be nice if you just noise-normalized the data to 36dBA as best you could, and showed the resulting gpu temp, core clock and TDP
@devonmoreau 3 місяці тому
What kind of impact did not increasing the memory bandwith make? Would it limit the advantages of more VRAM?
@markjacobs1086 3 місяці тому
It usually matters when there's higher resolutions at play to keep your GPU cores fed. Considering the 7600XT lacks the corecount, the buswidth isn't too relevant (as is 16gb's worth of memory, 12 would've been more than sufficient for the performance level of this GPU).
@mattg8888 3 місяці тому
Having bought a 6700 (non XT) for the same price it is right now about two years ago, I feel quite good about the purchase. I honestly had pretty high hopes that AMD will take off with VRAM again, but this isn't as amazing as I hoped.
@ShadarThePcBuilder 3 місяці тому
That sound like good purchase
@QuentinStephens 3 місяці тому
Great work; you really are a glutton for punishment! But your hard work is much appreciated. I do think you are making a mistake in not covering 4k, but rather than using the highest settings for these cards please test medium settings. Such information is both interesting and useful: lots of people have 4k TVs these days. Think of parents bringing the PC into the living room so a child can be supervised while playing. Something extra I would like to see you test somehow is performance and stability while streaming. One content creator I watch had problems streaming Jedi Survivor on a RTX card until he added a second RTX card to handle the streaming. The issue may have been VRAM usage. But I appreciate you have only so much time. I was surprised and pleased to see how well the Arc A770 fared, and I think it deserved more mention. That card now sorely needs a price drop to be competitive.
@Bluelagoonstudios 3 місяці тому
Thanks Steve!
@gabrielvillarreal3051 3 місяці тому
I must have missed it. Do these benchmarks take into account DLSS or FSR?
@rnt__ 3 місяці тому
I'm glad my RX 6600 still one of the best price to performance gpus. I brought it for $190 like 6 months ago brand new. 0 issues so far.
@FunkyM217 3 місяці тому
Much as 16 gigs of VRAM entices, sticking with a 6600 like wot we haz surely do seem like a smart option right now.
@rnt__ 3 місяці тому
@@FunkyM217 I don't need more than 8gb of vram right now. I play manly Escape from Tarkov on 1080p with medium settings. I think it can handle it just fine for now.
@fajaradi1223 3 місяці тому
@@rnt__ At least until cheap or affordable high refresh rate OLED starting available for the masses, RX6600 is good enough for most cases.
@omagad2542 3 місяці тому
o yes lets go im rocking a rx570 4gb but imma watch all of HU vids. i like to watch tech stuff
@Brokenhill42 3 місяці тому
rx 480 4gb here....was planning on getting the 7600xt. still might but also not totally sure.
@NineS5 3 місяці тому
RX 580 here, still keeping this system till it dies. I bought a nice 4K monitor which is perfect for my use case rather than spending the money on overpriced purposely gimped graphics cards.
@hankblah 3 місяці тому
Keep up the hard work !
@samsonsimmlmann813 2 місяці тому
Still pretty happy with my 7600 Hellhound (8G of course) I bought half a year ago for 219€, including shipping and a copy of Starfield. The only thing I would complain about is that undervolting is almost impossible, still not sure why. Runs stable with 2900Mhz boost at 1.185V (instead of 1.2). But even with reduced boost I can't really reduce voltage by a reasonable margin. Behaves a bit odd, thoug, doesn't tend to crash so much at full load, some benchmarks run for hours without issues, but when playing older games.
@DAni14787 3 місяці тому
Benchmark charts are all over the place
@youraveragejoephoto 3 місяці тому
Got here within a couple of minutes even though I don’t even need to buy a GPU. Content is good so I watch it for the quality info!
@prrocker9637 3 місяці тому
The gigabyte gaming oc hotspot Temps are exactly the same on the higher end cards I have the xtx ver of it and there's always a 30C difference between the gpu and hotspot Temps steer clear of those cards if possible
@PaulSpades 3 місяці тому
I think the conclusions on this one are spot on, with good arguments. My rx580 8gig is getting really tired, time to look for an rx6800 or something. I stopped buying new cards in the first ethereum mining boom (almost a decade ago?). Thank you Steve!
@djGLCKR 3 місяці тому
They should have tried going with a cut-down Navi 32 instead of the full Navi 33... The 6700 XT and 6800 non-XT remain the best options in the sub-$400 range.
@haukionkannel 3 місяці тому
They have 7700 for that slot…
@TheBoltcranck 3 місяці тому
will new driver 24.1.1 help the 16Gb version vs the old 23.12.1?
@GENERiCmood 3 місяці тому
24.1.1 is the launch driver for the 7600xt, it doesn't work with older drivers. and to answer your question, NO, this GPU is too weak to leverage a 16gb VRAM buffer.
@TheBoltcranck 3 місяці тому
@@GENERiCmood at 4:40 you can see that the driver used was the 23.12.1
@GENERiCmood 3 місяці тому
@@TheBoltcranck that was the driver for the other AMD cards tested. usually AMD supplies reviewers with a special press driver that supports the new card similar to public preview drivers.
@ValeFero 3 місяці тому
I always check the conclusion only. Saves me time.
@alessandropisano9903 3 місяці тому
Are normal that memory temps? 😅
@randomisedaccessgaming1876 3 місяці тому
I think the best way to test this card is to test it along side the Intel Arc A770 16gb, and the RTX 4060ti 16gb, as these two cards are the closet rivals with 16gb of VRAM, it certainly would make a great revivew and the best bit would be the price vs performance comparison.
@tilapiadave3234 2 місяці тому
rtx 4060 ti SLAPS it ,, you can see that in the charts ,,, conveniently ignored by pro AMD channels
@randomisedaccessgaming1876 2 місяці тому
@@tilapiadave3234 it should do it's more expensive than the competition and best developed of the three brands.
@kosmosyche 3 місяці тому
This card actually makes me a bit depressed about the current state of GPU market. Thanks AMD (and of course special thanks to Nvidia too)! 🤣
@Riztard 3 місяці тому
Thanks Steve!
@NatrajChaturvedi 3 місяці тому
You are a very optimistic dude. I got depressed many moons back seeing many other GPU releases.
@Greenalex89 3 місяці тому
Question: Is there a use for those small bus big VRAM cards? Like are they good at something like encoding, AI stuff, Photoshop etc?
@TheKazragore 3 місяці тому
It allows them to hold more data in memory. For games, the most notable use is textures. Skyrim is an old game, but with texture mods I saw it regularly exceed 14Gb in 1440p. The big unknown is what will devs, who can now see clearly that more VRAM is in the offing for new cards, do with that increased headroom they're being given. Only time will tell.
@tk72231968 3 місяці тому
@Hardware Unboxed ; I've yet to see anyone breakdown the points at which memory bus width begins to affect the performance of a GPU based on the amount and speed of VRAM. Surely, this is something that could be explained so buyers would know about the future of a card, beyond it's current benchmarks.
@marcasswellbmd6922 3 місяці тому
So my XFX 6800XT has been holding me down for a while now.. Thank God I picked that card, it has been plenty strong enough for 4K even on newer Games I am able to play at High settings.. It's been a great GPU for me.. That reminds me my PC needs a good cleaning, I really need to get on that..
@Silvar55x 3 місяці тому
Both HU hosts seem to consistently refer to the standard/traditional GPU temperature reading as "junction", but I believe (and Wikipedia agrees) that: "Junction temperature, short for transistor junction temperature, is the highest operating temperature of the actual semiconductor in an electronic device". So "junction" = "hotspot". The standard temperature is then "edge" or whatever.
@johnpaulbacon8320 3 місяці тому
If the GDDRX memory was to be used instead of the non-X memory how much of a boost to performance would there be? Would that be worth the extra cost and power usage? Would a higher level memory bus help any? Would the cost of using a higher memory bus be worth it?
@MrHamof 3 місяці тому
13:42 Interesting note here, the A750 appears to be handling the lacking VRAM much better than other 8GB cards. I wonder why?
@cftyckct 3 місяці тому
Popcorn time!
@craciunator99 3 місяці тому
Boy do I feel even better about getting a 6700xt for only $200
@Chrissi33004 3 місяці тому
buying used is the only real option for budget gamers atm. Like he said. The card should have released 6 months ago at 300. Getting a 6700xt, 6800Xt, rtx 3070 or 3080 used ist so much better value than buying whatever this is
@DaKrawnik 3 місяці тому
Cost per frame @ 1440p???
@willn8664 Місяць тому
It really also depends which version of the 7600XT you get. Fortunately I got the PowerColor Fighter for only $300 and it has a faster clock speed than the ones that cost $330.
@paulunga 3 місяці тому
This once again just solidifies how good a deal the 6700 XT I bought around Black Friday 2022 for 390€ was. After owning six or seven mid-range Nvidia cards this was just a no-brainer for my setup. And the switch was actually pretty much seamless, everything worked out of the box without driver issues (using DDU), it immediately took custom profiles, heavily modded and dll-injected games like Skyrim just worked, custom app profiles and undervolting was super easy. FSR is a bit of a bummer, don't like the way it looks at all. XeSS pretty much always looks better to me, ideally all future games will let you choose between them.
@tomallan5000 3 місяці тому
Unfortunately I need the performance of the 4070 and the vram of 16 GB to make an upgrade for me worth it. Which means going with the 7800XT or 4070 TI Super duper. As the super duper is $800 and after these recent releases I am probably going to end up with the 7800XT.
@TotallySlapdash 3 місяці тому
honestly, if you can stick it out another year I suspect things will get a fair bit better next gen. This has definitly been the 'make old parts look good so we can sell off our old crypto stock' generation... there's a reason the 6700/6800/XTs stilll look the best from a value perspective, and based on this launch I'm guessing AMD doesn't actually want to endanger that status quo yet.
@marius0448 3 місяці тому
Like dash said, you can wait one more year if ur gpu holds up to what you need now.
@jayb2705 3 місяці тому
This is why you are one of my favorite and trusted review channels. Are you guys doing anything to celebrate 1M subs?
@Ray88G 3 місяці тому
Please include stable diffusion and blender benchmarks
@aaronriggs4430 3 місяці тому
It seems like the big VRAM scare of last year has largely blown over.. Many games dont need anywhere close to 12gb until you get into RT ultra 1440p, or even 4k quality.. resolutions and graphics features that underpowered cards don't even have the raw horsepower to run in the first place. That, coupled with the fact that a lot of UE5 games seem to be maxing out VRAM usage UNDER 8gb, and the fact that many VRAM hogs at launch have been patched by developers (PS5 ports in particular) says to me that 16gb on an entry level/1080p card is just marketing overkill and a response to a concern peddled by PC gaming journalists who blew the situation out of proportion. In short, this thing will run out of raster power long before it ever actually needs anywhere near 16gb of vram.
@vincent_9494 3 місяці тому
True, gamers do not require 16 GB VRAM in this segment. But AI applications do need a lot of VRAM. The more the better. A strong indication who are the real targeted customers of this card 😉
@burakozc3079 3 місяці тому
16 is overkill but 8 is worse. Should be 12 from the beginning. Also 16 gig made a difference even it is not huge, it shows that same card benefits from more than 8gb vram.
@valentinvas6454 3 місяці тому
They should release an RX 7700 non XT for $390 because right now the 6700 XT and 6750 look like better deals
@haukionkannel 3 місяці тому
Ofcourse… 6000 series is old. So they try to sell those out in discount. Nobody would buy them unless the old ones would be better value! So also no need to reduce 7700 price!
@andersjjensen 3 місяці тому
They want them to be better deals. Dr Su addressed in an investor conference call that AMD is sitting on a mountain of RDNA2 stock because the crypto bubble popped and GPU sales went down the drain for 6 months straight after (mostly due to second hand market being attractive).
@nickrajewski8358 3 місяці тому
So happy I managed to grab a 6700xt for $315. Killer deal relative to the current gen offerings.
@anarchonda7273 3 місяці тому
Does it make sense to make dies/designs with odd memory bus width? Like 160 bit wide for 10GB of memory instead of the 128 and 8GB of the 6600 and now 7600. Same thing could apply to the x700 product segment with a 224 bit 14GB design choice. I wonder if AMD could of done this instead of packing it with 16GB memory.
@haukionkannel 3 місяці тому
They would have to use Same chip that is in 7700 and 7800 for that… it would be wastefull! 7700 allready is so much cut down that it makes no sense to AMD to make 7700s!
@anarchonda7273 3 місяці тому
@@haukionkannel Hmm no? 7700 is a chiplet design. I was thinking that they would do what they did with the 6700 XT and its cut 6700 variant. 7600 XT being the complete die with 160bit width while the 7600 would be cut/locked to 128. As such AMD would provide at least something more than the same with a 2GB step up. The 4060 and 7600 feels more like AMD and Nvidia is shitting on its customers with a lackluster addition/upgrade from the 3060 and 6600.
@markjacobs1086 3 місяці тому
The memory chips have 32-bit busses. So any total bandwidth would need to be divisible by 32 for GDDR6 memory. That's the only true constraint (and of course the capacity of the VRAM chip for the total amount of memory should be considered as well).
@drago939393 3 місяці тому
@@markjacobs1086So it can be 160, then.
@ipotato95 3 місяці тому
After skipping ahead to power efficiency and average frame rates, why would anyone buy this over the 6700xt? It’s barely more power efficient but also about 10% slower. Wouldn’t expect one tier lower yet one generation newer to have that poor of a result compared a 3 year old product
@andersjjensen 3 місяці тому
AMD thanks you for your observation and encourages you to buy some of their mountain of RDNA2 stock still in the channels that constantly prohibits them from moving freely :P
@HondoJarrus 3 місяці тому
AMD's last gen mid-range is legendary - my Sapphire Nitro 6700XT is remarkable, playing Cyberpunk w/ FSR Quality at 4K60fps on my 4K TV.😍 It keeps surprising me with good performance.👏 (I think it might be the new GTX1060 for longevity.)
@albertdl5795 3 місяці тому
Sapphire Nitro+ Rx6700XT could barely get 60 FPS @ 1440p FSR in Cyberpunk 2077. UKposts benchmarks also only get 30FPS at 4k on average. How are you even getting 60?
@HondoJarrus 3 місяці тому
@@albertdl5795 FSR2.1 "Quality" & Hardware Unboxed optimized settings.👍
@HondoJarrus 3 місяці тому
@@albertdl5795 FSR2.1 on Quality with Hardware Unboxed optimized settings.👍
@robi6659 3 місяці тому
Well done hope the cold gets better
@gkirmathal 3 місяці тому
Glad I got the 6700XT couple of months ago. Last thing remaining: a monitor upgrade to ultrawide. Regretfully not much choice (lots of products) it's either 1440p and up or go home. UWFHD seem to have vanished.
@tutu0533 3 місяці тому
So you miss the last AMD Update 24.1.1 driver for 7600XT and other features.
@sgredsch 3 місяці тому
it mostly introduces bugs anyway. better wait for the fix driver next time around
@vineetkumarbharti2633 3 місяці тому
I'm not surprised by the fact that rx 6700 xt is still a better value than any latest release, even after 1 year of RDNA 3 launch. Amd really showed they are no better than Nvidia. Was hoping for something like 48CU 2250mhz GPU for same price. Anyway they have decided to ruin Radeon brand, no one can stop them.
@afrofantom6631 3 місяці тому
sahi bole bineet bhai
@NamTran-xc2ip 3 місяці тому
Somehow AMD fanbois still say its better tho 😂😂
@zodwraith5745 3 місяці тому
AMD has already proven they badly _want_ to gouge you as much as Nvidia does, they just can't make good enough GPUs and features. Threadripper pricing shows you _exactly_ how greedy AMD is if they hold the lead.
@JanM2 3 місяці тому
Interestingly however, when it comes to their CPUs, they're not nearly as greedy selling 7800x3ds at 360€ or Ryzen 5 7600s at 180€
@haukionkannel 3 місяці тому
Cheaper than 4060… what more could we expect?
@ibizenco 25 днів тому
A couple of years ago, I built a gaming PC for the teenage son of a relative. It has a Ryzen 5 3600, but it was back when graphics cards cost a kidney, so it has only a GTX 1650 Super. My favourite online PC hardware store offers a "used" (but not for long) ASUS "Dual" 7600XT in their "Outlet" store for 349.00 EUR (some 374.75 USD or 577 AUD). The 16 GB RAM may be interesting? This online store offers a few cheaper 4060's and several more expensive 4060Ti's. They don't offer the 6700 XT anymore (only the 6700), nor any 6800/XT. I don't know how much money the dad is willing to spend on a new graphics card, but I think 349 EUR - 375 USD - 577 AUD would probably be not too much. Upgrading the teenage son's PC with, say, a R7 5700X3D (I see no 5600X3D) and said 7600XT might be a nice upgrade. Last time I knew, the son mainly played Fortnite on (I think?) a 32-inch monitor, resolution unknown to me. Is 349 EUR - 375 USD - 577 AUD too much for this "Outlet store" 7600XT?
@lollipop_anus 3 місяці тому
Would have been interesting to have 6700 non-xt in the benchmark as it went blow for blow with 7600xt 8gb for almost the same price, except in memory limited areas where it took the lead with larger bus and 2gb extra vram
@Pouria_1664 3 місяці тому
Not enough horse power to need more than 8gbs. The original should've had 10-12 and this would've been something stronger with the same memory configuration perhaps
@jayarr15 3 місяці тому
My takeaway is, buying 3060ti is such a great move and it still holds up.
@Scoobymario255 3 місяці тому
yeap still got mine its still doing great. but i will be upgrading my 1660ti soon. i was thinking with a 7600xt but im going to hold off wait for price drops. 6700 is a great card but to big for my case
@jolli2483 3 місяці тому
both the cards mentioned in the title are almost 3x the price in the philippines
@drago939393 3 місяці тому
Q: Does the Bus Type have to be either 128-bit or 192-bit (or another 64 multiplier) or can it be something in between? Could it be for example 160-bit? Would be helpful if it was possible.
@lharsay 3 місяці тому
It has to be a multiple of 32. The 5GB variant of the GTX1060, the RX6700 10GB and the RTX4000 Ada 20GB are 160bit cards.
@marktackman2886 3 місяці тому
These companies know EXACTLY what it takes to get a good reception in the market, they make purposeful decisions to inhibit their products in the market, they need new leadership!
@maynardburger 3 місяці тому
They aren't trying to 'inhibit' their products, they are simply trying to maximize margins at every corner. They've all gone crazy with greed.
@tuckerhiggins4336 3 місяці тому
Not how capitalism works. Nvidia is currently making record profits, so they won't change ceo. Amd is about to follow suite too
@marktackman2886 3 місяці тому
@@maynardburger AMD needs new leadership
@marktackman2886 3 місяці тому
@@tuckerhiggins4336 AMD needs new leadership
@Blaczek297 3 місяці тому
i think rx 7600 xt 16gb is sometimes good alternative to rtx 4060 or even rx 6700 non xt/xt
@Ghostlynotme445 3 місяці тому
Dude 6700 xt faster then Rx 7600 xt 16gb if it would been $250 it would been a steal
@haukionkannel 3 місяці тому
The target was and is 4060… that is the Only competition to this GPU that AMD cares about!
@haukionkannel 3 місяці тому
@@Ghostlynotme445 Of course 6700 is cheaper and faster! It os old tech and sold at discount!
@Ghostlynotme445 3 місяці тому
@@haukionkannel and you know that 7600 xt should been the performance 6700 xt instead of overclock 7600 with 16gb barely trying 4060
@leothelio 3 місяці тому
When your review is better than gamer's nexus', you're doing well for your viewers. Thanks for the excellent work.
@EMU1 3 місяці тому
I would pick up a used 3070ti for the same price... I think this misses the mark, and I honeslty am not too concerned with VRAM on lower tier cards. By the time it actually starts to be an issue, another budget card can slot in its place for large gains at the same price range, or lower price with an improvement in performance. This card needed to be under $300 to provide any real value. There also need to be sub 200mm variants for small builds. That is something that there are very few AMD cards capable of.
@blacksama_ 3 місяці тому
Yea is valid that FPS do not show the quality of the image once you run out of VRAM. Very valid point.
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 3 місяці тому
What a mess, 7600 has more VRAM than 7700xt. An yes, it is a 7600 not xt, they didn't bother upgrading any compute units.
@haukionkannel 3 місяці тому
7600 is allready full die… you can not add more to allready full gpu chip…
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Місяць тому
@@haukionkannel Should've made a cut down version of the 7700xt die then.
@n00ber420 3 місяці тому
Thanks for reinforcing my purchase of the 6700xt for my son's first pc
@yuruparmacordis428 3 місяці тому
Just ordered 6750XT two days ago. Both have same price but even if 7600XT gets cheaper as time goes i don't think i will find 6750XT later.
@ItsNotAProblem 3 місяці тому
The AMD cycle: 1. Release an overpriced GPU 2. Get bad reviews 3. Discount it like crazy 4. Get poor sales and no profit 5. Hype up the next release with artificial leaks with fake stats
@shanesmith5178 3 місяці тому
No, because the drivers suck and support for updated drivers suck. I wish AMD could win the war entirely for an entire generation to shake up the market but its always the same issues. I also hope Intel continues to improve its product line and drivers; then makes higher end cards. I have people coming in for issues with their AMD cards constantly at my work. I have to reinstall everything just to tell them it's a driver issues 90% of the time. Honestly, I have never had an Nvidia one come in unless they break or it needed to be RMAed. ( don't jam the card into the slot like it's your first time on prom night please).
@EPR1994 3 місяці тому
I have had AMD cards for almost a year and a half now and have never had a single issue.
@haukionkannel 3 місяці тому
I have had AMD GPU for 6 years and no issues… before that 6 years NVIDIA gpu and no issues…
@shanesmith5178 3 місяці тому
It doesn't matter how many if you haven't had problems. What matters is everyone else who does. I say this everyday at work. Being the exception does not change the facts at hand. I deal with 100s of cards yearly and AMDs have issues commonly while Nvidia doesn't. It doesn't need to be a fanboy fight. I have been a AMD got for over 20 years. It doesn't change that their GPUs are inferior currently.
@johndelabretonne2373 3 місяці тому
Steve, why are the Average Frame Rates on the 12 Game Average chart not the same as the video you did yesterday on the RTX 4070 ti Super? All of the scores (for GPUs that were in both videos) are about 20% higher in this video... Which video is correct?
@haukionkannel 3 місяці тому
Different settings?
@gamingunboxed5130 3 місяці тому
Different games and quality settings. They are not the same class of GPU.
@yissnakklives8866 3 місяці тому
What i am hoping for is that more low profile higher performing cards will come out. I want to pit together a micro itx and the only decent selection is the 4060 low profile
@McKluskie 3 місяці тому
what annoys me about this channel and others is that they dont seem to realise that people upgrade their cards, mostly after 2-3 generations so they should always shows these in the benchmarks and not just some seemingly random cards they have laying around. There should have been 5600/5600xt , 5700 / 5700xt on here as an absolute minimum. There needs to be direct comparisons between the previous and previous before that generations in current games.
@shlapmaster2485 3 місяці тому
Real
@ookami-chan3328 3 місяці тому
actually this channel features many older generation card in their reviews. Just not in every single ones.
@kseries1981 3 місяці тому
Do you not see the 2060 and 2070?
@adamek9750 3 місяці тому
Sorry they didn’t include every gpu under the sun
@houdini329 3 місяці тому
Jup, exactly my thoughts. Especially the budget segment needs comparison further down the line. Its nice that there is a 2060 in there sometimes, though. And i know, why they do it. Cards from earlier generations aren't really usable in new games, so they look really bad. Although thats often due to the settings, which are quite often set to ultra, which is just pointless most of the time if you ask me.
@johnpen269 2 місяці тому
AMD gpus are trash u cant even do AI with them and are stuck with FSR
@MrDilldock 3 місяці тому
It sounded like Steve was on helium in his intro.
@SidneyCritic 3 місяці тому
This "missing picture quality", ie, fudged frames, problem sux, it would be a big PITA recording the test footage and comparing it every time when it has to run for 30min to become apparent.
@SidakSKochar 3 місяці тому
6:40 is the 6600 being above the 6650xt and 7600 xt not weird, maybe something to look into ig Steve
@TokenTech 3 місяці тому
Hope youre feeling okay steeve, you sound a bit sick!
@stefanaraharijaona324 3 місяці тому
Thanks for review and well said Steve : "Another frustrating release from AMD". They really should have made at least something equal to 6700 xt in terms of performance
@haukionkannel 3 місяці тому
They have… 7700
@Yo64130 2 місяці тому
What I have learn looking through dozens of videos to decide which GPU to buy and deciding for 7600XT is that you get what you pay for. Sure the better ones are better but are also more expensive almost at a linear rate. I was going to get a 6800 because on all the reviews it is the best bang for buck, but the bucks were not there 50% more expensive than the 7600xt, it would have thrown off my budget. It is hard not to buy the best there is but hey I have been gaming and using blender pretty decently with a 1650 for the last 4 years, this card is a fair upgrade to that one. To me 60 frames at 1440p is more than enough, dont care that much about ray tracing. And using those AMD image upsacelers I cant tell the difference, I left my bragging brain at college a long time ago. "Yes but you cant game at 220fps" dude I dont even notice the difference past 120. Also some of the cards in comparisson above the 7600XT where way above 50% more expensive or where 8GB, and I rather gane at 30fps stable than have stutters.
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