2 days ago?

Damn, best breakdown i’ve seen so far, can’t wait for the Vi and Caitlyn video

Awesome review. Please do the Vi and Caitlyn video soon.

General assumption : Victor is going to be a jealous backstabber Reality : Too busy trying to stay Alive .

Silco was a great dad. ;)

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!

by giving the other blind a lightsaber for a cane.

Yes. Silco did care for Jinx a lot, but in a twisted kind of way.

Well summarized in 4 words.

more like the blind giving eye surgery.

I love both characters, but I have to agree with you that jinx came upon her character naturally

well when talking about movie/modern comic versions, then yes, Jinx is more compelling, but there are iterations of Harley Quinn in the comics that, while sounding silly, are well written and gripping.

Harley’s craziness is mainly played for laughs. At least the modern versions of the character. Meanwhile, Jinx’s craziness is taken pretty seriously. You feel genuinely bad for her but are terrified of her at the same time. Jinx has a few funny lines and moments but she’s a tragic character at the end of the day. Not comic relief.

@@philly_sports1558 tbh, Harley doesn't really seem all too crazy, she seems like she's barely mentally unstable, while Jinx seems like she has no mental stability whatsoever, more like a realistic Joker

The animated series does a good job of balancing Harley's "craziness" and the realness of her character, specifically through interactions with her crew

I think the best way to put it simply is this. Was he, strictly speaking a GOOD father? No. But he was trying to be a good father. He made mistakes and he certainly kinda fucked up along the way, but he was absolutely trying to be a good dad.

silco and jinx have the best original intention

Silco was the worlds most averagest dad. I think Jinx may had painted a mug with that on it.

@@dazmaster22 Right. He was doing what he could to raise a traumatized child, while having trauma of his own

I think he was a good dad, not the best but I can’t call him a bad one either considering he did lover and provided her what ever she needed. He was willing to let the world die just to protect his daughter just because she loved him. He’s not a bad dad he’s definitely not the best but considering he genuine loves his kid and doesn’t take advantage of her he’s a good dad.

I thinks its the best experience when you get into it without prior knowledge. Cuz it offers just a bit more suprises.

Same, didn't even watch a trailer, only heard it recommended by three independent friends, which is why I gave it a go 🤩

Same with me. I wasn’t expecting to like it but I was hooked pretty quickly

The fanboys on this show are pathetic. XD

Totally agree. There's some goofy moments to adjust to. Like how everyone is so reverent to Heimerdinger: a furry fluff ball Yoda guy. But once you buy in, it's so engrossing. Feels like it's based on a novel.

Jajajaja, if you make that a law the people who play league will be the first ones to approved.

Haha, funny joke, really original

As someone who played League about a decade... I agree.

League can be fun.

@@turtleman5405 until you discovered ranked match

It's such a stark contrast between the way Vander and Vi interacted and the way Silco and Jinx interacted. Vander was always putting his foot down and teaching Vi harsh life lessons. Silco was overprotective and kept Jinx safe from any and all consequences of her actions. A lot of parents could probably learn from this show.

Jinx needed vi That's it

Yeah, I see some people saying Vi doesn't love Jinx, and that Silco does love her, but missing that you can love someone while not condoning their behaviour, and you can love someone and not be good for them. Silco definitely enables Jinx's violent behaviour, and I don';t think it was even deliberate because he was projecting his own issues with Vander onto her relationship with Vi. And that makes it even more interesting imho.

It's a weird thing with Silco, because he always has his heart in the right place, but his deeds don't line up with that. He thinks all he does is necessary, a great way to calm your conciousness when you kill the innocent. He tried to be a good father, but broken men tend to find that hard.

and thats why we love them so much

Okay. BUT. Why even have moments where it seemed that there was intimacy between them? The whole time I watched their relationship once she was older, I ALWAYS thought they were moments away from kissing. If the relationship was purely father/daughter, the physical interactions should have been limited, maybe even 0. Not once did I get an intimacy vibe from Vi and Vander, but I ALWAYS thought that Jinx and Silco were about to be together. The scene where he dunks her in the water, tell me you didn't think he was leaning down to kiss her. The way she looks at him...yes, its with adoration but could have easily been tweaked not to look so shy anime lover-ish. They either needed to go ahead and make it a thing or do everything they can to not make it look like it may be a thing.

@@mitchiehewer I noticed the same thing. But i think a key element is all of the moments that could be seen as romantic between the two are nearly always from Jinx's perspective. I don't think Silco had any of those feelings towards her and was in it to be a father figure only, but it very much seemed to me that Jinx's feelings towards Silco were confused. Vulnerable and/ or traumatized (younger especially) people can sometimes idolize parental / mentor figures (not blood related of course) to an unhealthy degree, to the point where it DOES feel like something more than platonic. So its very possible it was intentional, meant to make the audience confused and uncomfortable. A romance between the two would have been very gross and Im glad that they didnt go in that direction. But I'm glad they explored this aspect of toxic mentor/ student relationships because its definitely something that isn't talked about much. But it definitely happens, probably more than we'd like to admit. Gives both jinx and siclo more complexity. makes silco slightly less shitty is the fact that he didnt take advantage of Jinx, when he definitely could have.

@@juicyfruits8071 Hmmm. I sincerely think that there is nothing wrong with a mentor/mentee romantic relationship, nor even a relationship where one is significantly older than the other. We are just socialized to be appalled by anything that doesn't fit the current norm. In the past days, and even in some countries today, dating someone significantly older is not viewed as anything other than normal. Nor is dating someone like your father's best friend, etc. Now, this audience is clearly a euro-centric audience, so these types of relationship will surely be viewed as wrong. Hence why I was uncomfortable observing any scenes where such a relationship was implied. I heavily disagree that it was necessary to show those things for the audience to understand how fucked-up the relationship was or how much trauma Jinx had. That was pretty clear to me, even before she became Jinx, and they did a good job showing that throughout. Those scenes of near-intimacy did not do anything other than make me uncomfortable, and it was uncomfortable because the father/daughter narrative was pushed so hard. As someone from those other countries where this relationship would not be viewed as wrong, I was mad uncomfortable. Because we were being sold a father/daughter narrative and then being shown otherwise. That's what I mean when I say they should have either ran with it or let it go. For example, Mel is clearly older than Jayce and is in a much higher position of power than Jayce. She practically created him. Some people have raised concerns around her manipulation for sure, but no one is exactly jarred by the fact that they had actual sex within the show. The show could have easily sold you the Jinx X Silco narrative in a way that you would fall for it too, many anime shows do that and euro-centric audiences find themselves begrudgingly liking it. Because if it is done right, you can easily understand why two seemingly different people would fall for each other. You might even say awww, so I have to disagree that it would have been gross. Now, if you spend the show selling me this father/daughter narrative, and then you show the daughter as a teenager straddling the father's lap, I'm sorry, but no. That's what makes the scenes uncomfortable, if that is making any sense. It's the insistent selling of Jinx as his daughter, and then the unnecessary intimacy. I would happily write ways that they could have depicted the same level of dependence on Silco without her needing to touch him intimately. Additionally, just because it was from Jinx's perspective does not mean we KNOW that Silco is not thinking of her in that way. Imagine, a teenage girl sitting on the lap of a grown man, where her body is likely connecting with his, you know. There is just no way that can be 100% innocent. The point of my rant is, no, we did not need those scenes at all. And they were a very small part of the show, but I didn't need to have unnecessary heart attacks. As a non euro-centric audience member, I would have been happy with the writers committing fully to a more romantic aspect. Then they could have made Silco younger, maybe Jinx less shy anime girl in love-like, toss the daddy/daughter thing out the window and go for more friendship vibes, and you would have been sold on their romantic story just as much as anything else within the show. I'm not saying its for every one, but I'm pointing to the fact that cultural differences do exist in terms of what is viewed as right or wrong. My ex who I almost married while I was 17 was 35, and that was neither illegal nor viewed as wrong in my country. Nor was I not mature enough to know what I was doing. Many people in their 40's don't have the maturity to have a relationship either, so I don't believe in the whole age as a factor thing, after a certain point of course. All that is to say (God will I ever finish?? :D) I just don't think those scenes were necessary and I could have used some other more impactful ways of showing their relationship (like Silco tossing a blanket over her while she sleeps, making breakfast for her, etc.). I think I'm done now :)

@@mitchiehewer i guess its cause ive had confusing feelings like that before with a mentor (not to the extent in the show where i straddled him or anything) that I appreciated it more. I was traumatized growing up and had a hard time telling whether someone genuinely cared for me in a fatherly way or if they wanted to sleep with me. I've never seen those feelings represented on screen. So as uncomfortable as it was to see a mixture of fatherly feelings and paternal feelings, its something that has happened to me personally so it resonated with me. Trauma makes people have weird feelings and see things in a distorted way. Its not pretty, and it IS uncomfortable. But unfortunately it is also realistic

@@juicyfruits8071 Thank you so much for sharing that, I get what you mean. Yes, trauma can result in confusing feelings and is often the catalyst for behaviors that others may not understand (as evident in own interpretation of the Jinx/Silco dynamic). In that sense, I am glad you were able to see something on-screen that validated your own feelings. Mentor/mentee relationships can often be very toxic, and we do need to see that portrayed, just as much as we need to show that isn't always so. I'm sorry for what happened to you, I hope you are doing okay and taking care of yourself.

put it pretty well into words

yea he was an enabler

Silco good father 🤝 Silco bad father Silco good villain

He's what you would call a free range parent...

Silco did pretty much manipulate Powder though. He saw a vulnerable little girl in the worst moment of her life, basically kidnapped her, and brainwashed her into basically becoming a weapon for him in the form of Jinx. Did he love her? Yes. Without a doubt, and that was proven how he refused to turn her in to achieve everything he wanted. But he still played a major role in transforming someone who already had mental problems into a schizophrenic psychopath who works with him because he made it so that she had no one else to go to. Silco was a monster. A monster with a heart who loved his daughter, but still a monster.

Thank you for saying this. Still an incredible character tho, and probably the only person that truly loved Jinx. Why it's so hard to see her lose him.

@@lockekappa500 yeah I completely agree

Silco best dad. Bite me.

@@JohnDoe-ry8sr heavily disagree, but it’s your opinion, you do you my guy

@@sketchs_art_corner i would love to have a dad like silco

Yooooooooooooooooooo. I did not expect to have my mind blown. Wtffff.

Wow, that makes sense! Jinx has a pattern of coping with lost loved ones by making some physical representation of them, such as a doll. So I guess she carries Silco around with her everywhere now.

wow if that's what the creators intended, then major props to them for the amount of attention to details :0

u just make this show even more awesome

Her Gatling gun is also named similarly. Named after her nickname that Vi always called/calls her. POW-POW. Her weapons are the holdouts of her memories of her two families

Yknow, that is an extremely good take on Emkk

I don’t know if that’s why she tried to end it with a grenade. I think it’s because Jinx took back over. For a split second, he reached Powder, but then Jinx smirked and pulled the pin. Still, yours is an interesting perspective and it’s certainly possible that’s what the writers intended.

Yeah i loved ekko tbh

​@@GoBlueHTB I personally think that's what the writers intended. At the bridge scene when Echo had Jinx pinned, her eyes were shown to be gray. Jinx's eyes aren't gray; Powder's eyes are gray. So Echo was essentially looking into the eyes of Powder. To me, her smile was one of resignation, of missing old times and hating what everything has come to. I think she intended to take herself out with the grenade, because rather than sticking it to echo's jacket or trying to escape with it, she just lays it in plain view beside herself and lays there with it. I dunno tho.

Exactly what I want to say, especially the foil part. Ekko and Powder are both around the same age, both technological savvy, both lost a father figure through Silco, and both sees Vi as a sister figure. Yet, one became the second hand of silco, one became the much needed leader of the community.

The fanboys on this show are pathetic. XD

@@ramonandrajo6348 i may be pathetic but i am free and willing to give props to this show when it deserves it. Havent seen writing this good in years.

@@dannieon Whatever, normie. XD

@@ramonandrajo6348 bro wtf did i do to you😭

@@dannieon ?

I was wondering what he meant by that. Thank you for elaborating. Beautiful

@@childofolivares8754 glad to be of service 😁

and how he drops some liquor to the fountain.. by the way is there Ekko's name skribbled in the stone? I think it is but the scribble seems to be actually BKKO with a B instead of an E Could someone clarify?

@@martisole6249 It looked like Ekko to me.

What?

I think you are misunderstanding what people are saying. Maybe even those who are saying it are misunderstanding themselves as well. What people are connecting with is the fact that Silco was having a human experience. He wasn't doing this purely for evil. There was a sincere driving force behind his actions. Most bad guys in shows and movies have very bland back stories and driving forces but Silco's was clear and you can connect with it. He wanted to free the people of Zaun from the exploitation of Piltover. There is very clearly a class divide and we can all relate to that especially in 2021.

Yeah...because goodness doesn't get things done. How's that goodness and pacifism working against the billionaires and climate change? How's it doing against all the anti-vaxxer dipshits? . Oh, right...it's not working, at all. . Silco made a lot of mistakes. But you know what? He's not wrong.

@@ravenna6543 just cuz his intentions are good doesn't mean his methods are. Dude was willing to kill just about anyone to get what he wanted. He killed Vander ffs. Threatened Marcus's daughter. Hello??

Can you really blame him? The cruel world is what forced him to use those methods to survive

@@mateusnicolinibezerra9757 he definitely thinks he is doing the right thing for Jynx but his teachings on power and "showing them" obviously just led her down the wrong path. Like I said, he is a sincere parent, just not one with the right parenting skills

I love that scene and i think powder/jinx is a great character, i also despise her. It's perfect.

@@wooblydooblygod3857 I've watched that scene a dozen times, and have seen Arcane in full three different times...it still makes me break. Silco is the most interesting antagonist in modern media, like...by the end of the show, I can't hate him, at all. His methods are immoral, and you can't deny that he's done some bad shit, but that scene where he's sitting next to Vander's statue, and says "oh brother, I get it" or whatever, it's amazing. Hopefully S2 is just as good as S1.

the end of Jinx's tea party too. Her realization that she just killed her family (again) just fucks me up every time.

i thought of the cod zombies monkey bomb

I love how the characters in this show just do things that make everything go straightforwardly for themselves. And everyone has reasonable goals given their characters.

except caitlyn the one jinx hated the most surviving fireflies bombs. i really thought jinx was swarming her with fireflies right in front of vi for leaving her. thats a plot armor moment.

Ho. Ly. Shit… no Wonder it looked like this

Oof. I hope they treated their workers well and paid them fairly. That's a shitton of work.

Bruh how many decades did they spend making the series? 🤔😅

@@oliversmith8098 6 years.

@@markocipek7119 Every damn second was worth it.

I totally agree. You would have assumed he knew she was alive otherwise. So it did serve a purpose, but I also think it came out a little forced and over exaggerated.

@@dinofrog926 I think it was it was such a heavy reaction, because he understands how unstable jinx is. That vi being alive, when he thought she was dead, and told his daughter she was dead, would cause jinx to lose trust in him. Hurting him emotionally and logistically.

@@caleb5194 that is true actually, it was really bad, shocking news for him. Ok, I take it back, the show is perfect after all 😌

I also loved the delivery of that line cause it just made it more perfect, you can feel how incredulous he was at that moment, I think sarcastic chorus dislike with this scene might've been biased from how he spoke but what do I know!?! XD anywho I also found this scene useful, not only that but I really liked it, so maybe IM biased XD damn

@@dinofrog926 lmao that change in mind 😭😂

He remembers Jinx and Vi. He talks to them in the game as if he remembers them.

Warwick still has some vague memories actually. Particularly, memories of Powder screaming Vi's name which is presumably linked to the ending of episode 3. Judging by the short story "if they run" - Warwick wouldn't kill Jinx if he came across her.

This was the most coolest way of describing it. Absolutely

As a Warwick main and someone who's loved his lore... this just isn't right. Warwick isn't without internal conflict; to the contrary he's pretty much defined by it. He has these half remembered memories obscured by uncontrollable primal urges. His level lucidity varies with every moment, and disappears completely when he catches the scent of blood. Despite this, Warwick is constantly aware on at least some level that he was not always like this and that something is wrong. He maintains a strained, foggy sense of justice and targets only those he finds deserving, struggling against the beast's desire to kill everyone around him. Imo this Warwick has MUCH more potential for Arcane's story than the mindless beast you describe. It's brimming with conflict and pathos, and plays directly into the themes the show is centered around (duality, family, abandonment and reconciliation ). The potential for interactions between him, Vi and Jinx is immense. It's honestly what I'm looking forward to the most in Season 2, assuming they do indeed delve into it there.

@@Jimera0 PREACH IT Warwick main!

God, YES! I feel the same way. I feel like. I think that Jinx's psychosis does it so well because it isn't bothering to be a good literal representation of psychosis (which, from my personal experience I'm pretty sure will never adequately translate to a screen) but it's such a perfect audio/visual metaphor for how it feels in an absolutely incredible way.

that's so interesting. i've found it difficult to connect with jinx, she's so tense and splintered, but i'm glad to read it made sense to other people.

I sometimes have mental breakdowns, just like Powder had in the 3 episode, in her room. The hiding her head, intense crying and amazing voice acting made it WAY to real. The first time that I watched it I couldn't believe how real and immersive it was, rarely does a series become so real, I felt like I was there, in the room, watching Powder cry. Obviously I'm not on her level of insane, I just sometimes can't deal with my emotions properly, so it leads to breakdowns, that are accurately portrayed in Arcane.

The fanboys on this show are pathetic. XD

Yep, canon for hurt, fanfic for comfort (or more time spent exploring the angst, if you so choose)

Friend is overstating it but yea she knew him

After her death the orb thing changed, so i hope her mind is somehow inside and she will return Ik its completly wrong and will never happen, but let me hope

she was powder

@@marweha7002 "best we can do is a cursed voidborn" -Riot probably

@@marweha7002 Doesn't Viktor eventually get a third arm? I thought they would fuse and that's how he'd get it, but maybe what you said is how he gets the third arm.

Yeah, especially with what we know becomes of those three in the games…

I agree. The lore about Warwick makes it very clear that the man he used to be is gone. All that remains is a remorseless killer. This will make Vander's "resurrection" a tragedy because if they stick to that concept then it will literally be worse than if he was just dead.

and don`t forget the little that remains of him pushes Warwick to target criminals and tries to stop him from attacking anyone the remotely looks like vi or jinx.

@@jahcode6132 Actually Warwick short story makes it clear he has at least an idea of who he was before. I doubt he will ever go back to being Vander but it's not as simple as "all that remains is a remorseless killer".

Facts and Warwick coming in season 2 can be the reason why vi tries to fix her relationship with jinx so they can stop him together

And the show is still woke. XD

@@ramonandrajo6348 what did that have to do with what he was talking about psychosis?

@@MALICEM12 ?

@@ramonandrajo6348 the fuck does that matter?

@@ramonandrajo6348 show wasnt woke at all

i played the game quite a lot (though it has been some years), but i don't know jack shit about the characters. i think the benefit of making a tv series about a game like league of legends is that the lore is not really a big part of the game (at least what i remember) and thus you have much more freedom to write a compelling story without being to much constricted by the 'source material'.

I played the game only once so I didnt know them, and in the first episode I said " uh I wonder Who is the blue girl who is fighting Vi in the theme song" and after the third episode I was shocked

The fan moments are there too, though. Vi and Jayce using their weapons for the first time was an endorphine rush for sure (even though it was stifled quite harshly by Jayce murdering a child...), and there are more moments that I will tell you about once I rewatch the show which I now have to do after watching this video.

And the contrast with child him not being able to catch up to the toy boat and the current him outrunning the boats/ships was just fucking brilliant

@@mothralord1709 didn't even think of that. brilliant indeed

@@notoffensivenpc8400 you can thank the arcane subreddit for all these themes i keep finding out from them. The one that hurts the most is probably the parallel of vander chocking silco at the factory and Vi aggressively holding powder afterwardsa

@@mothralord1709 i think i actually saw that parallel in a video

What I noticed too (the thought popped into my head when I watched, so I paid attention to it) is just how freaking complete the animation is. It's obvious he's stumbling with his right leg since he hasn't used it that way before, but if you look he's even learning to use his ARMS evenly! He has always had to use a cane, his entire body has been asymmetrical. And they actually kept that in mind for the running scene!

Ya seriously i keep seeing people not getting that silco thought vi was dead A big deal is made about the fact that silco doesnt lie to jinx They are, in theory at least, completely open about everything to each other Theres a reason why she always hangs out above his office during his meetings He wants to make sure that to her hes an open book, every "secret meeting" is not secret to her

@@ConnorNotyerbidness I think it's because so much of media these days just hands the people watching/playing/reading it everything. So if it's not a surface level idea, it goes over a lot of people's heads. Like in most shows, it probably would have had him or Sevika point out that Marcus lied, like when she walks in the room a d say something like "Marcus lied to us, the sister is back" or some variation of. Instead they showed us what the characters were thinking from the knowledge they had and left the fact that Marcus lied for what ever reason just like .. one layer down below surface level for us to dig to, and people aren't used to even doing that little amount of thinking for the media they consume now.

@@Orapac-ln5jd i wouldnt give so little credit to tv now a days Do remember there Is a reason why movies are going to the wayside in favor of long form media You had your average viewer of gane of thrones for instance making grand theories as well But then again i lack an explanation as to why everyone overlooks it Heck the angryjoeshow when they reviewed the show they asked how jinx figured out hex tech so quickly and that it was supposedly impossible for her to do so Deslite the fact that victor calls her bombs a work of genius And despite the fact she stole literally all their notes on how hextech works And theres several scenes laying out said fact So maybe your right

It also signals Silco lost his cool when someone could take Jinx away from him appears.

There are many ways to say this line but they choose "From THE DEAD", which I think it's foreshadowing Vander's resurrection (which should be in Silco's plan from the start: catch Vander off guard and turn him into a powerful weapon) and also implemented that in this world deaths can be reversed.

And the show is still woke. XD

@@ramonandrajo6348 What?

@@jassskmaster7575 ?

@@ramonandrajo6348 What do you mean by "it's woke" ?

@@jassskmaster7575 Exactly that.

It was also the thing that Powder always needed to hear. She had been judged and made to feel incompetent throughout her childhood, it's probably the first time anyone told her she is perfect the way she is.

could also be the worst thing he said. "you're perfect" but shes not. shes manic and she obviously has severe trauma and problems. she needs to change but hearing someone say "you're perfect" gives you the impression that you shouldnt change your ways

I disagree with the sentiment that he cared about her trauma/didn't want her to suffer from it, because he used it constantly on her so she'd stick by him. He always reminded her that she was abandoned, and was constantly saying "us against the world", "no one truly loves you but me", "everyone will only betray you" type of stuff-- ALL of which play to her weaknesses and trauma. To me, if he actually wanted her to be happy, then he would have let her spend time with her sister who obviously makes her happy. But as soon as he heard Vi was around, he freaked out and wanted her out of the picture as quickly as possible. Why? Because Vi's existence threatens Jinx's loyalty to him. I think, when he said she was perfect in the end, he meant it. People tend to be more sincere when time is ticking for them, so I do think he truly cared for her. But love can be incredibly toxic, and his love for her was drowned in codependency and projection of his own trauma.

@@jhmi7877 I think he genuinely believed everything he said to Jinx. He saw how traumatized she was after she hallucinated Vi over one of the Firelights' faces, and probably deduced that the news that Vi was actually still alive would fuck her up deeply. Also bear in mind the fact that Silco actually DID think Vi abandoned Powder, since Marcus arrested Vi specifically to make sure Silco didn't see (and kill) her. That's also what Powder thought, and what she told him. Combined with the cut-throat nature of Zaun, I don't think he's lying when he says that kind of thing to Jinx. Can it be manipulative? Yeah, absolutely. But in Silco's case, I think he's telling her what he genuinely believes to be the truth.

@@jallybwan3767 I can see that- regarding Silco's reaction when he heard Vi was alive. But to me, his reaction had more panic in it than just anger and shock. And that panic is what made me think of him as a person who had something to lose, as opposed to someone who's just deeply concerned for Jinx's well-being. I'm also not disagreeing that he believed the things he said. Like I mentioned, I think there was a lot of projection there- he saw Vander in Vi, and his pain in Jinx's. This projection of his own pain made him care for Jinx more than he thought he could care for a person, but on the other side of that same coin, it also pushed him to do what he felt was necessary to keep her by his side. Even to her detriment. So, though he loved her, he still made decisions that made HIM feel better, not Jinx. But this is what I like about his character as a main villain. His motivations regarding Jinx doesn't seem to have simple explanations but instead, they're depicted to have constant interactions between 'good' and 'bad' (ie. healthy and toxic love). Makes his character more human.

in all fairness, the robbery thing wasnt her fault if youre talking about the initial explosive. how were they supposed to know those orbs were BOMBS?? She was trying to help when the monkey bomb killed (almost) everyone. shes just doing her best.

ALSO I read ur comment as comically instead of cosmically

@@violetsparkles5453 That's kind of the tragedy of it she's always just trying to do her best, usually trying to save people or make them proud. She was just looking for valuables, just trying to stop the bad guy, even at the end the last thing that went through her head was her father figure saying "we'll show them all".

I love this comment😭

@@dr.ickydoesstuff7743 ikr its sooo sad

100%. The less you know about the game, the better. Not being able to expect Powder's heel turn makes it all of the more impactful. She was probably my favorite character in the first 2 episodes and then after the events of episode 3 and then seeing go down the path of the dark side; it's heartbreaking. I experienced a real sense of loss, which makes it a lot easier to connect with Vi in episode 5+ because I was able to experience her sense of loss and grief with her. This show was a tearjerker, that's for sure.

Someone that understands. I am really happy that the show was made so expertly for all to enjoy, but things reached this point because too there is a community that likes and supported the game all these years, we deserve at least one moment that belongs exclusively to us and I understand if ID isn't your taste in music but their inclusion here goes much more than just pandering to a music group. Warriors is one the most beloved songs and videos of our community, so I think this much is completely acceptable.

I just don't like contemporary pop arts regardless of intentions, but it's use here was surprasingly tolerable and fitting to a point of me humming along, something I would never imagine doing as I have a lifelong beef with radio music being subjected to it daily for years at work. Much better use than say the final scene to Bordlerlands 3 which felt like a slap to the face, two games and some of buildup and amazing indie music to finish with that horrendous song, I wanted to refund on the spot.

In the episode that featured them, didn't it also transition to Marcus studying at his desk while listening to Enemy on the radio? Is imagine dragons canon in the League universe? :p

@@jahcode6132 now they are

Cool tribute but the opening isn't enough for it to be the tribute? Their cameo isn't subtle and a little too on the nose. It removes the audience immersion in the world. But I would still take imagine dragons than seraphine.

Essentially type of plot point to where it's just Warwick's body warped to the mind and body of a monster

I'd prefer Vander to stay dead, but as long as he stays true to Warwick's character and they don't make him turn back into Vander mode in emotional ecounters, it's fine for me. There are so many ways they could really fuck up with that storyline.

I feel that with the way this team has everything written, they’ll be able to pull it off extremely well if they go that route

Yeah if anyone can make that feel earned, it’s gonna be this team.

I mean, Vander is essentially dead even if he gets brought back as Warwick.He instinctually hungers for blood, he has no memories, and is more animalistic than human. There's basically nothing left of Vander except a few trace memories of a girl screaming something. The drama doesn't come from "That's Vander, back from the dead" but is instead "That thing used to be Vander, oh god and he's trying to kill us" and the characters dealing with that fact.

Best show I have ever watched.

On the other hand it actively adds to the characters in the game and doesn’t spit in their face. Even somewhat joke characters like Heimerdinger are flawed and nuanced, it doesn’t feel the need to compensate for the franchise’s goofiness like marvel often does with a cheeky wink at the camera.

Must be nice being able to watch a show without picking up your phone or finding someway to distract yourself no matter how good the show is. Gosh, I love ADHD. But in all seriousness.. I agree. I don’t have anybody to discuss this with either, so watch analysis videos is the next best thing. Also, this is the first video game adaptation that seriously makes me consider whether or not I should play the game it’s adapting. It’s just that good. I’ve watched sonic and detective Pikachu, and although those 2 are good they don’t make me wanna immediately jump out of my bed and run to the nearest device to buy their respective titles and any devices I may need to play them, but with Arcane I actually did digging into League of Legends and even found that they’re making a fighting game that I can not wait for!

@@RunicRazili The game is pretty fun if you play with friends that are not toxic, but alone it can be frustrating.

@@RunicRazili Was THIS close to downloading League. But, in all honesty, I'm glad games like Legends of Runeterra and Project L are a thing. I'm literally gonna main Vi when that game comes out haha.

Same, I stayed up till 3 am

@@HyperFreak89 Project L?

One of angryjoe's few 10/10 (if I'm correct)

Yeah it was beautiful. Another channel gave it a 7/10 because it missed a few beats but it was actually a very clever writing tactic to allow for the brain to fill in the blanks on its own. I love it. Making everyone I know watch it with me again and again.

For me the city design was great but some of the character designs could have looked better. But in the end I am here for the story anyway

No, Disney has grown fat, and complacent. Too much time in the sun.

Yep. And give us compelling and well-written stories like this. It could really be new era for video game is they go this route

There was also a line from Jinx that says "nothing ever stays dead." Which of course is pretty accurate to Vander lol

don't compare arcane to the nonsense that is shakespeares tragedies... please dont

@@roze4412 She's just comparing how both stories often times suffer from miscommunication. Which is a good point

@@roze4412 You don't know what you're saying.

@@roze4412 lol ok

If Vi had stood up and gone back two seconds earlier maybe none of this would have happened

Sherlock holmes, really? Silco was way more nuanced than that

I did have to look it up... But! It's because I thought that guy's name was Charles. Could not tell you why.

Henry what? Who?

Sherlock Holmes?

I don't think that is a good cahllenge. Few people (evene more in this demografic) have actually read Sherlock Holmes.

Besides, I dont think anyone other than singed would know

For it to generate any drama in the show, the characters would need to know it. My bet would be the cliche of him retaining some memories and vi agonizing over his fate. I'll be very pleasantly surprised if they keep it as something only for the viewers. Like an actual complete transformation to the point that its unrecognizable to even your closest ppl

@@MrNoobthenub I'm pretty sure lore wise he has fragmented memories from before he died , like hearing a little girl screaming and crying out something he couldn't understand but sounded like a name. That'd be Ep3 ending right there.

You could see/hear it coming from the fight in episode 3. Gave me chills hearing Warwick when you know who was on shimmer.

@@laszloneumann500 Heck, as we’ve seen in his backstory, I don’t even think Singed knows who Warwick is and that he created it. Remember, he threw out Warwick’s body since it was a failed experiment. But it was only after that happened that the experiment actually worked.

It also speaks to how much of a blackhole Stillwater prison is. The fact that he had no idea she was alive, even though he had Marcus (who imprisoned her) on payroll, is also an interesting thing to think about.

@@MistyKathrine Yeah, I didn't quite realize Marcus saved Vi's life. The fact he never told Silco she was alive, also implies he was protecting her, in a way. Which makes him a better person, in my eyes

@@joyc.e.7511 Yeah, like most characters in the show, Marcus isn't necessarily a bad person. He made a deal with the Silco initially that didn't go down like he agreed to, but then he was stuck in that situation because now Silco has the dirt, and can threaten his family. Marcus made the proverbial deal with the devil and got trapped. When Marcus grabs Vi though, he actually tells her: "If he hears you, he'll kill you", so he probably saved her life there. On the other hand, putting Vi in prison is what sealed his fate. Jinx gets pretty upset when she finds out that Vi was imprisoned by Marcus, she then goes and kills Marcus in the very next episode. At that point Jinx no longer saw Marcus as useful, and saw him as someone who needed to be eliminated. Her sister was alive this whole time and she didn't know it because of Marcus.

@@MistyKathrine I don't know if Jinx purposely killed Marcus. Wasn't she just she just blowing up all the enforcers there? I do agree with everything else though.

@@joyc.e.7511 In episode 6 when Vi tells Jinx that she got arrested, Jinx asks "Marcus?" Clearly upset over it. After Vi gets taken by Ekko, the very next thing Jinx does is build the firelight bombs she uses to blow up Marcus and the other enforcers. In episode 9, Silco says that "the late sheriff had his uses" to which Sevika replies: "Too bad Jinx didn't think so". Marcus was on Silco's payroll and Jinx knew it which is why she was shocked to find out that he had her arrested and kept it a secret from Silco and herself. it seems unlikely that Jinx would have killed Marcus if she didn't feel betrayed by him.

I think this and land of the lustrous really did wonders for why 3d is more than jus cheaper 2d

Personally I think the fact they didn't show it in act 1 made the scene much more emotional. With the flash backs, they make it clear he was her best friend, it wasn't Creggor or Mylo and Vi is "just" her sister, her best friend was Ekko. It just sucker punch you with the "of course they were best friends as kids" realization since we didn't actually see it, which for me made it so much more powerful.

@@JK-dd5im ye exactly. The writers do not think their fans are stupid. We can put that shit together.

THERE is a glimpse of that in Imagine Dragon's Enemy music vid. Some clips on that vid are NOT on the show and IS a part of the world building.

@@JK-dd5im on-top of that, their friendship was probably over looked by the others in the group so we didn't see it. Just like how the only time we see Sky is pretty much from Viktors perspective, and he's to busy and distracted to learn about her, so we don't either until it's to late. Then he pays attention to her.

@@Orapac-ln5jd Exactly. Flawed narrator, a very common technique in literature especially, but very interesting to see it portrayed in something like film/TV not just through characters' actions but through the way the (in this case virtual) camera is directed and shot in different acts.

Just read your comment on Ekko from the Arcane. I like the time theory of characters. Jinx is stuck in the past. Vi is only looking to the future. Ekko is the one who lives in the now.

Yeah, crazy people try vindicate Heimer. He at least shares a portion of blame for how things ended up in Zaun as a member of the Council for a Long Time.

@@Cheapphilosophysale incorrect as someone with literal centuries of experience and influence over the topside (piltover) and the lanes (zaun) at anypoint he could have learned how politics worked and decided to make the living conditions of , not only the zaunites but the poorest piltovens as well. He shares the biggest slice of the blame here (not just some of it). He is the oldest wisest and most influential figure in the city and he chose to do nothing... for centuries listen when celebrities nowadays don't speak out it's pretty lame but they hold influence for what 20 to 30 years the most popular ones? Imagine being a celebrity in a city for 200 years and never once doing anything to try and make the community a better place. Jayce was absolutley right to kick him from the council he had no interest in politics... in a political governing body... Ekko's in game quote says it all "i'd rather make mistakes than make nothing at all"

@@kafelematavou I agree? Where was I saying Heimerdinger wasn't to blame lol.

@@Cheapphilosophysale oh lol I was being dramatic in my presentation but my point is just that a lot of people talk about hiem as if he's a minor part of the problem with the two cities where I feel like it's pretty obvious he's the only consistent common denominator and he should get more blame for that 😅 but ye we agree 👍🏾

The greatest part about this show is that everyone's made mistakes. Noone has made the right choice. There's always consequences that come about from different perspectives.

He had the BEST line in the show, hands down

@@pokmon987”When you’re going to change the world, don’t ask for permission.” “In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good.” Yeah, I’d fricking say so!

This was my reaction to that scene of Vi bringing up the names of people in her past, which prompts Silco to point the gun at her. I saw another video where a lot of people were saying that Vi was traumatizing Jinx and Silco wanted to shoot Vi because it was clearly hurting Jinx.... Personally, I thought he wanted to shut her up because he doesn't want Jinx to remember that she had family, that she still has Vi. He needs Jinx to need him and *only* him. Because he has abandonment issues too.

That's the opposite of what we see... The whole scene of the baptism is to remove(bury) her past. It's Vi telling Jinx to remember Mylo, Clagger and Vander that's causing her to have a mental breakdown. Mylo, Clagger and Vander ARE jinxs' demons.

@@tompatompsson They're not though. They were her brothers. Vander was her father. And Silco came in expecting to kill her, but ended up instantly trauma bonding with her after having killed her real father. And he did so when he compared what Powder felt when Vi "abandoned her" to what he felt when Vander tried to kill him. It sent him to a place where his past self and present needed comfort to come to terms with what happened/ what he did and it manifested in Powder. Then when she felt guilty about killing her family, he twisted it to try and either have her forget them, or emphasized the bad about them to make her stay connected to him. He did this ESPECIALLY with Milo who was a bully to Jinx... but I think the way Silco taught her to rethink the scenerio made Milo seem worse than he was. The truth about Milo was he was an insecure kid who kept screwing up or was not as impressive as anyone in the family. Because of that, he put down Powder to try and make himself feel better. He felt worthless so he took that out on Powder to make him feel something possitive... and that was WRONG of him to do but if someone could have explained that to Powder after his death, so she could have been allowed to grow and reflect and grieve properly. If that happened she wouldn't be hearing his voice now. But because Silco never let's Jinx confront her past and accept what happened, he also doesn't let her age mentally. Jinx is an out of control child, and Silco enabled her to be such. The reason they can still cuddle like that, that she can sit on his lap without anything sexual between them or either feeling weird (despite everyone else feeling gross), is because the precieve her as a little girl still. She may have grown bugger, but she didn't grow wiser. She acts like a little kid still because she can't grow past what she did. She's stunted and will forever be so until she comes to terms with what happened that day at the faculty. Vi was right in trying to make Jinx confront it. Maybe it was the wrong time/ approach because Jinx was on so many drugs and having a mental breakdown already... but Jinx did not give Vi a choice in the matter. Jinx is on the offensive and is constantly forcing Vi into a corner or giving her impossible ultimatums that she thinks she can get away with, because Silco let her get away with crap like that. But Vi won't anymore. As an adult she had time to reflect and probably understands the difference between empowering Powder and enabling her, can reflect on their youth and figure what she did wrong and what she did right. She also knows her sister is already falling apart and mixing reality with fiction and Silco is mostly to blame for it, and Vi has to break the illusion Silco created and Jinx fell for, in order to get her sister back. And Silco tried to shoot her because he is codependent on Jinx. He can't fathom losing her in any way so he tried to kill Vi (multiple times) to keep his daughter. Because if Jinx ever changed from that scared girl desperately clinging to him that night, all those many years ago...than she wouldn't be his daughter anymore. And he would lose her.

@@ChasehaWing So from "Then when she felt guilty about killing her family, he twisted it to try and either have her forget them" and onwards you are simply making shit up? How do you know that he did that? Why exactly do you even consider that to have happened? Silco never mentions Mylo or Claggor at all? Why do you think that "Silco doesn't let her confront her past"? The obvious answer is that he isn't a psychologist and I doubt that is even thing in Zaun or even Runeterra as whole. Her not aging mentally doesn't rely on Silco not allowing her to confront her past. She can do that just fine on her own. "She's stunted and will forever be so until she comes to terms with what happened that day at the faculty." I agree. Why does that mean that Silco is making her unable to do this? So you are saying that Vi intentionally triggered her little sister in moment where both her own and Caitlyns lives were in the hands of Jinx? That... is incredibly dumb. Here is what I think happened: Vi, throughout the show, believes that Jinx and Powder are two separate entities and that Jinx is just a form that Silco created. We know that this isn't true. The reason that Powder became Jinx was because of her mental trauma from that day. So when Vi is forced to try and save Caitlyns life she calls out to "Powder" by telling her to remember the family she killed, thinking that Powder, inside Jinx, would be able to "break free" and come back to the surface. But again, Powder wasn't replaced by Jinx, she became Jinx. Vi is the one creating the breakdown that Jinx has and I HIGHLY doubt that was her intention. Finally, why exactly would you take such a roundabout thought? Vi is literally causing his "daughter" to have a mental breakdown-> shoot Vi to stop her from hurting Jinx. Is it possible that he figured that shooting Vi would make Jinx forget about her? I doubt it very, VERY much.

@@tompatompsson I will take too long to explain. To shorten, it's what Silco doesn't say that leads me to a lot of conclusions, rather than anything he actually does say. He can't talk about the boys with her and have her rationalize her emotions, because doing so would force him to remind her/ have her confront the idea that he was the one who was directly at fault for the death of her previous family, as he did orchestrate the entire night. The only reason any of them ended up there, is because of him. And having her realize/ remember that would probably have ended up with her leaving him and he can't have that. So he rather she have auditory hallucinations plaguing her, than talk through her problems about her brothers to her and rationalize her emotions. That or rather she drown out her thoughts literally with that symbolic baptism in the lake. Killing off her past life as Powder so she can just live as Jinx. Getting her to repress her emotions despite the fact that has never worked. But it's the only way to keep her. There's a lot of implied text and things you have to understand through actions alone rather than anything outright said. One of the things is if Silco really wanted to help Jinx, he would have actually helped her. But he likes that she was messed up. He likes that her being broken makes her codependent on him. And he can not stand ANYTHING getting in the way of their bond. No thoughts of Vandor outside of demonizing him to her. Telling the lie that her sister left her when he ordered her death. And with this probably came the thought of "it sounds like your brothers bullied you. You deserved better." Because to make himself her father figure.. he had to remove positive associations from her last family. They had to be villianized so he could be her hero. And Silco has been trying to kill Vi long before the tea party because she has always been a threat to his and Jinx's relationship. Vi's words are trying to remind Jinx of the positive associations with the past. Making her confront the past rather than suppress it. She calls out Milo and Claggor and then "Dad" and Jinx can't fully get a proper image when she says that word. But Silco just wants Vi to shut up. He doesn't worry about Jinx getting hurt further by Vi's words..., he just doesn't want his daughter to be taken away. Doesn't want Vi to steal that which is most important to him. His codependant relationship with Jinx. And if the lies shatter, so will their bond.

Yea this guy tripping calling Ekko a random guy

..... My god, I can't believe it, it is Wally. I can even hear Wally in his voice now, now I cant look at Silco in the same manner anymore, how can he make that sweetheart boy and change to this complex crime lord is beyond me. The man has range.

Yes, he is incredible ❤ He also voiced Razer in Green lantern TAS and Lux Bonteri in SWCW ))

ohh my fcking god its freaking wally I never realise it holy shit no wonder sometimes silco sounds so familiar but my gad Jason spisak can voice anyone

Who the hell is wally

@@earlyjet6338 Wally West aka Kid Flash from Young Justice.

I was watching with a friend and we both literally threw our hands up to block the screen while shouting "its a father - daughter dynamic. It's a father - daughter dynamic. ITS A FATHER - DAUGHTER DYNAMIC." The relief was palpable that they didn't go further than some suspect shot framing.

I don't know if it's a cultural thing or what but since the second scene they have together, to me it was made pretty clear that it's a father-daughter dinamic with no real sexual tension involved, just Jinx being a bit of a clingy child to her father figure and stuff, which makes total sense considering her abandonment issues and constant need for validation and affection...is it not normal for parents to hug their kids or be physically affectionate in general where you live? I feel honestly pretty astonished at so many people assuming at first that was the way it was gonna go, lmao

@@MinosML people often project their own desires about pedophilic relationships that way. They saw those scenes as sexual because they themselves have deep-seated issues, disgusting ones. To me it was very clear that the relationship is not sexual in any way. Abandoned children very often don't respect personal boundaries and yearn for physical contact, even with complete strangers.

this absolutely true, but trauma can be made worse by unhealthy coping mechanisms. Everything that Silco tried to teach her, in genuine compassion for her, was counterproductive. Powder was affected by serious trauma and a need for codependency after the bridge, but Vi was able to keep her stable and functional. Silco wasn't. That's what demonstrates his failure as a father.

@@Daniel-zg5mb true but he actually loved her and jinx knew that which is why she carried out his will

@@turtle-ot2qc yeah for sure, though I think her actions are more complicated than just carrying on Silco's legacy. But as a whole, yeah I agree

He...kinda is... He captured Vander which made Vi go after him If Vander wasn't taken by Silco none of these would happen. But she can't see that cos she blames Vi and she's crazy...and a child as well.

yes, but no. He spurred her on, let her off the leash with no consequences at all.

Hard agree. I have gone back to watch Powder's realization over and over, and every time the acting was more impressive than the one before.

THE ACTRESS WAS 11 SHES A GODDAMN GENUIS

@@Alderberanirgal yes she was. This show was in development for 6 years. She gave an interview talking about it, Silco 's VA did too. They recorded the lines back in 2017-2018

@@Alderberanirgal bruh Mia Sinclair Jennes was born in 2005. Says it right on her wiki. This show has been in production for 6 years, they started recording her lines 6 years ago. 2021-6 is 2015. So even earlier. She was 10-11. Lol

@@Flufferz626 Cool. You're correct about Mia. I got Ella's (Jinx's VA) wiki result and didn't notice. My bad.

My two favorites followed closely by Jinx and Vi.

Totally agree 👏 x

I am so excited to see how they continue with Viktor in season 2 ☺

He misunderstands Warwick, which is ok because he said at the start he did not play the game & while the lore has been separate from the game for years, no one outside LoL got into it before Arcane. Warwick in the lore basically remembers jack about what he used to be, so if he appears in s2 then he'd be played as a total tragedy like you said. A zombie husk of what Vander was.

In the lore, Singed was a Student of Warwick. So it is unlikely that it is that guy, since he had no connections to the laboratory.

@@nezirdzanko6363 what? Singed was the one who made Warwick through experiments

@@nezirdzanko6363 That was already retconned in-lore. And this series has enormous problems with following the lore. There's a double chance that your comment is incorrect.

@@nachomolaolivera7580 Awwww maaaaan D:

Vi created Jinx, Silco nurtured her. Silco loved Jinx, Vi wouldn't acknowledge her (granted, there wasn't time for it).

@@idkman2633 Vi didn't create Jinx, not in the slightest. We see in that 3rd episode that Vi wanted to go back to Jinx, save her from Silco, but then she got chloroformed and conked out of it. Hence she thought Powder died at the hands of Silco throughout her stay in prison. A series of coincidental unfortunate events played out which led to Powder turning herself into Jinx

@@colmlooney5843 he was talking about Powder's POV. Vi created jinx by saying powder was a jinx at the end of the 3rd episode, and that Silco helped grew the character Jinx and slowly destroying the character Powder. But in Vi's POV, she wanted to save powder and that Silco was the one that created Jinx.

you missed out the words "Brilliantly written immersive tragedy"

we're now seeing the ripples of spiderverse taking form across the industry and I'm so fucking here for it

Characters seem shallow and very predictable. To each their own

@@iveseenyourbrain3548 you’re objectively wrong.

@@iveseenyourbrain3548 lol

Powder is her dead name. She reminds me of Gollum from the Lord of the Rings.

oh she's gone there's no going back

Jinx is also a bad person. I don't see anyone launching into why she is a bad person. I don't understand why we feel we need to explain a damn show as if it were real life. Literally jinx is about to eradicate an entire city and we are more focused on Silco. People, its a show. Just enjoy it.

@@mitchiehewer because in the context of the story silco was the one who basically created jinx

@@apatheticeye6955 Actually, according to Jinx herself, Vi created Jinx.

@@mitchiehewer hi may have started it but silco encouraged it. He was there holding her hand every step of the way on the road to hell. He was the one who turned her into the jinx we know now

@@mitchiehewer I'm not sure why it's upsetting you that people are discussing a show in this detail. Shows are meant to entertain us, but we also enjoy how they reflect us as humans. Arcane has characters who feel like real people. That's why. Nobody is calling Jinx a straight up bad person because we've seen how she got to this point and know that Silco (introduced as bad and cruel) is ultimately what caused this. He encourages her violence.

As they say: This show plays back at 24 wallpapers per second.

He is Jinx's dad, but Powder's killer.

I think people very much judge his parenting based on his other character traits. For a revenge-driven psycho who casually murders children, he was very caring and empathetic with Jinx. But the fact still stands that he is a revenge-driven psycho who casually murders children, and in raising Jinx he actively tried to make her more like him. Which is just, unambiguously a shitty thing to do objectively. He's not quite as shitty as an alcoholic beating his children "because he loves them", but it's in the same ballpark.

@@rustygear447 Not really. Vi did that when she let Ekko take her place on that bridge. She made her choice.

@@TheCarbonCreed He did more than that. He tried his best to exercise her demons, the only way he knew how. He supported her talents, and put in faith in her in a way no one else did, Vi include. A lot of people point out that He tried to make her the monster she is, but the well goes deep. Episode one we watch her try to kill a kid. She didn't use smoke bomb, she tried to use a nail grenade. Nobody told her to stop making explosives before hand, and she insinuated that she's tried to kill people on more than one account, the bombs just failed. Episode 6, what cause her to kill those cops, wasn't Silco's influence, but the same voices that told her she wasn't good enough her whole childhood. He said take some time off (the usual go clear your head), and she took it as 'I have to prove I'm not useless' something he never asked her to do. This show's real villain, is the fissure's socio-economic status. Vander being fine with his kids robbing places as long as its not where the rich folks are, a little girl has to make grenades to feel safe, a man with aspirations of a better tomorrow has no trust in the people around him, fumes so toxic they literately dampen longevity. Christ.

@@757reaper just because he tried to exorcise her demons the only way he knew how doesn’t mean he’s good. If anything that supports the fact that he’s bad, as his methods proved to be ineffective. Good parenting is not just about always being supportive and trying your best, but it’s also about succeeding where you try. Saying he’s good because he used ineffective methods that he thought would be best is like saying a leader is a good leader for making the best possible decision that he could think of that ended up killing a quarter of his team when there were better options that would’ve resulted in no casualties. Also, Vander has nothing to do with Silco’s parenting. Was he also not the greatest? Sure. But does that matter when talking about Silco? No. No it doesn’t. Because a good parent would be able to realize that their adoptive child went through bad shit from their last guardian, and then would proceed to find the best way to actually help her and not make it worse. Jinx was going to happen even if Silco didn’t show up, which is most likely true..but that’s not an argument. As a parent you should actively try to prevent that stuff, but if anything Silco just accelerated the process. After all, telling you that your previous father isn’t the man you though he was, and constantly excusing you from things that are obviously not okay is going to mess up a kid. So no, he’s not good. Did he try his best? Yeah he did, which is why he’s so interesting. Even though he failed, he still tried and showed that he actually cares for Jinx and was willing to comfort her in his last breaths, despite his last breaths being a product of Jinx, the monster he may not have created..but still a monster he didn’t stop.

Yes. As someone who teaches the DSM V, she is a classic case of Schizophrenia. Not only does she have hallucinations (the voices she hears and the images she sees), she also has delusions (the belief that she needs to prove herself to everyone, which is not in line with reality).

@@mitchiehewer Well yeah, but a lot of people believe that anyway.

Additional note that it should be "person with Schizophrenia" We use person-first language to de-stigmatize mental illness.

​@@mitchiehewer Yep, I know, I worked there too some time ago. This is not my natural language, using one word instead of three feels much easier. About the de-stigmatization, I think they have bigger problems than that, to be honest. If we really want to de-stigmatize their situation, what we need is a much better education in mental health in schools and high schools. Using one term or the other, with the pretension of de-stigmatizing that collective feels like a way to trivialize their problems and objectify their suffering. I never liked that line of thinking. I comply to use that term, but just because it feels more natural and kind.

@@Alfonso88279 I know it's not as easy as just changing the way we speak about mental health. That's why I became a professor, because we always need more workers, and more education around mental health. But the language we do use is a small way to make people with mental illnesses have one less problem on their plate. To have to deal with your mental health and also be mocked and alienated from society is just too much. But yes, there is a lot of work to do. But we can take small steps too.

They killed Ben 10

They were orphans anyway

They were never champions in the first place so it's not really that surprising

Which makes the deaths all the more tragic and made you feel harder. Kill off characters that we never seen or known and expecting us to feel for won't have that effect on you.

That's how you do it, otherwise it doesn't matter as much