I do wish more people (especially know-it-all indians) stopped acting like idiots in the comments under each of Gary's videos....

Yeah, Detailed Videos and Their Creators should be Supported and Leap Ahead.

It'll probably have similar CPU performance. But that GPU on the A14 looks incredible in speed test G. I don't think Qualcomm can catch up with that.

And then when the main phones finally come out with this, we will be about 6 months towards the A15 release. This looks very promising.

As an A14 owner , i think the A14 is pretty good , but saying that , for a lot of the time it( the Iphone A14 ) imo just does not feel that fast compared to some current android phones in daily life due to apples hardware choices, I do suspect this new snapdragon is going to wipe the floor with the iphones A14 across the board , and this is good , competition in hardware ...... we all win ;) .

It’ll kill a14

@@taidee tbf samusng launches their phones at the start of the year and they rumored to launch the s21 even earlier than usual.

Same, upgrading my S10 snapdragon next year for the emulation gains.

i think by just dropping it to the 5nm process, we can hope for some gains but you are right regardless

The A55 on 5nm is a lot more power efficient on the same clockspeed.

Motorola has said the the Moto G range is getting a variant of these chips next year, and with my current Moto G Power 2020 I'm already getting about 3 - 3 1/2 days on a full charge with moderate use(average is well over 2 day with heavier usage), so it should be even better with these chips on 5nm in the new Moto G Power.

Due to the fact that those small cores have way less logic in them than the bigger cores, I think there is only so much that can change really... I think they will know what makes sense... Like @David Yang said, the jump to a smaller node will probably be more significant than anything a redesign could potentially deliver here.

@@rolfbause9523 we need something that dose for the dynamIQ comparable A55 what the A35 did for the A53. But there it a limit to how many transistors you can remove while maintaining comparability. Could they drop 32bit support?

5 allows fake one?!

@@nakedeye44 in some way, yes

BT 5.2 is supported by the SD 865+, but no phones support it. Is the software stack ready?

@@zeroone8800 until I know the sd865+ doesn't support bt5.2, is a independent chip that allows bt5.2. The first SOC natively supporting bt5.2 should be the 888

@@amermeleitor leaks about the S21 line have BT 5.1 for all models.

Either he explains well.. or your dog is really smart 😂

Same

Quite the opposite. I am here to get the technical specifics rather than marketing bs.

@@DarkOracleOfDeath Same

Not sure if we saw the same video. This was a marketing video with tiny slices of almost real technical information. I dare you to write down what you learned from this video. Questions you could ask: On what arm cpu are the big cores based? What improvement did the 5nm process give? What apps will use the new accelerators? How does the gpu compare to a desktop gpu? How much will this cost compared to 855 and what difference would you be able to see?

​@@Ferdinand208 Ha ha. I hadn't watched the video before I made the comment, but it still stands. I don't want to hear about their "elite gaming" and other nonsense. I want to know how stacks up. And without rewatching the video, I'll try to answer your quizL 1. ARM X1 I believe is the main one. Or 1X. The one ARM assisted in building; 2. More transistors, specifically I think they mentioned 25% better processing performance and 35% for graphincs; 3. Not sure what you mean. If you mean the triple ISP thingy, that's in camera of course; 4. Variable Rate Shading (VRS) 5. I don't think Gary mentioned the price, but I hope it's the regular price of a Snapdragon flagship.

This can actually work 🤔

@@JohnMushitu The biggest problem would probably be to get proper GPU acceleration to work simultaneously on both..

This should be quite usable considering Windows emulated on M1 chips was pretty decent

The spice is right with this one.

Once android 6.0 can dual boot win10 But i read there is dispute from Microsoft to Google/OEMs for commercially using it So both just stopped there i think

Long live the A55

Wait to 2022

@@NarinderxBali of a77....

@@NarinderxBali I'm talking about A55 not A77

@Julien Lindauer X1 ???

Either use Android NN, or Qualcomm's SDK.

Same😂😂😂

sure they are and thats why even 865+phones beat iphones with a14

I'm sure A57 has been released a year ago and despite being flagship SoC they don't include that one or newer which might be A58

@@ivanmaksimovic163 you realize he was talking about a55, the efficiency cores of the soc? Do some research before brabbling your opinion out. His point stands, sites like anandtech.com have shown the efficiency cores of apples socs to have a big lead.

@@ivanmaksimovic163 Ya? NO

@@ivanmaksimovic163 865+ is way slower than a14

Wait what? So does qualcomm own adreno or they just buy from amd?

@@jeffthegamerboy3476 They Own adreno bud. And Welcome to youtube.

@@jeffthegamerboy3476 Like he said Qualcomm owns Adreno fully. But the Adreno GPU's had their start at AMD (ATI at the time) as the ATI Imageon GPU's. In 2009 AMD sold their entire handheld graphics division to Qualcomm for $65 million, transferring all Imageon assets, IP and employees to Qualcomm.

@@sean8102 Not to mention Radeon and Adreno are anagrams🤣

pixel 6 will most likely get a exynos chip if not, atleast it won't get a 888 flagship one tho

@@shab-re5334 Yes! I agree with you. Will see!

@@shab-re5334 But is still use from arm I Bet it :)) Sorry My bad I do not realize that U reply exynos chip 😂😂😂😅

the performance overhead of 888 won't matter atleast for 3 years. I have a oneplus 5 with sd 835 and it still never lags (except in super heavy games)

@@xor_255 sd 888 will extand that's leap atleast for 4yrs ahead I don't think sd 835 can keep up that's 😂😂😂😅

@@thebrightstar3634 835 obviously cant keep up for another 4 years

@@xor_255 yes that why I say to U sd 888 is worth upgrade and massive 835 is just too old maybe it can last 1 or 2 more yrs others is not

@@xor_255 with sd835 your phone doesn't overheat yet, I have poco f1 and does heat up a lot after 3 years of use though I have abused this phone alot

Which cache level on the X1 is greater according to those "leaks"?

You would think.

@@amashaziz2212 well 5nm is half the size of 7nm node, so they told it right. 25% more performance for 25% more efficiency or 50% more performance per watt which is optimal jump from 7nm to 5nm node, since 5nm is twice as denser as 7nm node for same die size (7x7=49, 5x5=25, 49/25 =~ 2, that's how basic the math goes).

@@aynyal8313 more smaller size node and more power efficiency simple things

@@aynyal8313 Nope, see the slides again. Qualcomm always does this thing where they mention both at the same time but never say that both happen at the same time. It’s just clever marketing. Qualcomm has done the exact same thing before. See their previous presentations. Besides, Tsmc themselves said it’s 5nm process is 10-15% faster at the same power, or vice versa. Combine that with the 10-15% efficiency of the A78 and u get the 888.

@@amashaziz2212 Transistor density almost doubles as the node area decreases as I mentioned above, 5nm is almost twice as dense as 7nm node . Now taking in reference to tsmc they said they had 15% increase in performance per transistor or 30% more energy efficient for same performance. Now think this in a real scenerio, let me say all 4 performance cores in SD 888 be designed around that 15% increase in performance whereas the latter 4 efficiency cores be designed around those 30% efficiency for the same performance, All cores will never be fully utilized at the same time, you can get higher performance while on more computing based tasks whereas higher efficiency in less computing based tasks, + take in mind the architecture, the transistor density is being significantly increased (ideally 2x as I mentioned) it gives manufacturers the options to make smaller die sizes which are more efficient than larger die sizes, since current have shorter path to travel, but they have higher thermal concentration due to components being closer, Qualcomm can squeeze out that extra efficiency there or can increase there transistor amount for more performance, there are other multiple things, like how much A78 cores are improved over A77 cores in terms of IPC, how much energy X1 consumes, how big is the memory pipeline which are all taken care by ARM and are out of the hands of Qualcomm, only thing that can be confirmed now is that 4 x A55 core will lie between the 30% more efficient - 15% more performance range since it will be basically the same architecture on smaller node. Btw, its a Samsung 5nm node I think in SD 888.

@lasest2 true that. by the way the kid above u seems like an idiot so I am not replying to his unnecessarily long post. coming back to ur statement, many games and encoding apps make heavy use of the gpu atleast and that means efficiency is similar to only slightly higher in those situations. Just saying that bcoz I do a lot of phone gaming. Add me on COD/PUBG Mobile/Brawl Stars if you want :)

A quarter

@@amashaziz2212 they are overclocking X1 core to 2.91 GHz and A78 core to 2.81 GHz that's why i am excited see this image for more info ibb.co/QrFYp0S

@@srikard1564 dude samsung can't use x1 core! Unlike Qualcomm They are not a partner of ARM for the development of the x1. Therefore they can't use x1. Kindly be more knowledgeable than this if u don't want to make a fool out of urself. thank you

It depends on what the system is tasked to do. 1GB Ram on iOS and 2.5GB on Android is the minimum for each OS to just work properly, but it can vary by device.

This is a portable device where 2x2 is plenty especially using WiFi 6/6E 160MHz wide channels. This thing can deliver 3.6Gbps with 4K QAM and 2x2+2x2 DBS.

Thankfully part of technology licensing fees OEMs pay to Qualcomm also supplies them with software stacks to ensure all of this good stuff gets used. Many people think Qualcomm is a monopoly and enemy of the people ripping everyone off charging for chips and technology licensing fees on top (whole ~$10 or 2 lattes per device). Well as a licensee you get access to all these software stacks to ensure all this good stuff in hardware is being used properly by software, not to mention faster time to market.

A mix of both , but it takes a tiny piece of silicon on the chip to work

Depends on it's architecture,but I'm guessing the SD888 will be cheaper because the 5G modem is integrated into it Unlike the previous models where qualcomm forces you to get their 5G modem when you're getting their flagship chipset

@@baxxon2485 that is really true 👍

@@VibezVideo accurate

I wish they would do that

@subas thapa *SUBAS THAPA!*

MARK!!!

@@amashaziz2212 no one else explains tech better than Gary IMO

In an leaked benchmark i found in Geekbench from an Vivo V2056 with the 888 its lower than A14 in singe and multicore. A13 is in singlecore faster than Snapdragon 888 hower in Multicore Snapdragon 888 is faster.www.notebookcheck.com/Ein-Vivo-Smartphone-mit-Qualcomm-Snapdragon-888-stuermt-die-Benchmark-Charts-bei-Geekbench.507545.0.html browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/search?utf8=✓&q=A13

@@MaxMustermann-vy7ur that multi core is the same as a13

These are not diy chips.

@@amashaziz2212 I know this. But the fact that I can't get this in other than a phone or tablet sucks. These are more than capable of handling desktop tasks at this point.

Probably, but that isn't what Qualcomm has announced today.

A14 only has much faster big CPU cores (2 of 6) that matter in single-threaded performance, everything else like GPU/NPU/ISP/5G/WiFi/BT/etc. (and likely multi-threaded CPU performance) in the SoC the 888 dominates.

@@LogioTek Interesting. I would’ve thought Apple would still continue to have the edge for both single and multi-core scores but definitely some of the wireless tech is a year or two ahead.

@@lahmyaj Yea you are right. Basically both CPU general integer single and multi threaded performance Apple A14 is ahead in. I haven't looked at A14 benchmarks yet but now I have.

@@amashaziz2212 8CX does not have translation.

@@thetechnerd1617 That's Microsoft's job. Windows already has some translation thing but it sucks. I think Microsoft screwed up big time after Windows xp. All future products are fragmented or received poorly and if Apple continues to grow like that recommending windows based machines to anyone in 2,3 years will be really difficult. The only hope that I see is Amd making some crazy improvements to keep up with arm based chips (assuming apple grows at a steady rate).

@@thetechnerd1617 See the reply above

@lasest2 an OEM will not put devices out until the software is ready. Ofcourse they don't want huge losses. Microsoft should increase the adoption of arm based windows devices and create developer friendly environment.

@@parthmalani6286, even if that happens which it will sooner or later, most pc manufacturers will still go with windows. Apple won't let them use mac os on other laptops. Microsoft has a monopoly, thats why Windows gets shittier every day.

@@amashaziz2212 lacks of os that's why they R slower

@@thebrightstar3634 os??

@@amashaziz2212 Apple is control their os in M1 chip that why it's run fast both software and hardware is already control by Apple itself and more Dev support for that's I will not surprise why sd 8cx it run much slower XD

@@thebrightstar3634 no, that's not what i meant. i know what os means. It's just that u wrote "lack of os" which confused me. Since android phones do have an os.

@@amashaziz2212 that's What I mean for :))

For example of my experience: i wait for countdown to hit zero. Click buy now and it sells instantly like everyone had quicker speed to grab it

No because honestly you’re probably competing against people that have a bot program

Yea for sure. To put things into perspective, 888 (and even 865) are even faster (by more than 2X in the case of 888) at AI than Apple's M1. And now because of Qualcomm's data center AI and autonomous driving efforts, their software AI stack is no joke to extract all the performance possible from this raw hardware. Things like AI model quantizing and compression, etc.

Why this single core obsession? I don't count the horses in one cylinder of a car either.

A14 for sure. However, i think 888 will beat A14 in Speed Test G

@@its_rns that is a bold shout, I personally don't think it will. The GPU on the A14 seems incredibly fast. Can't wait to find out though!

@@hermanstokbrood it's because we still live in a very single threaded world. Many programs don't/can't use more than 1 thread. Even multi-threaded programs will still have a lot of single threaded coded. That is why single threaded performance is so important in the grand scheme of performance.

@@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt no we don't live in a single threaded world. Any OS runs several processes. Multi cores then are very welcome. It's just that people are obsessed with single core performance. Other parts like storage, memory, bandwidth and even connection speed to the world are equally important.

Not sure if the crappy video quality(unstable frame timings) of Android smartphones is caused by the ISP or just the software.

@@amashaziz2212 Yeah, I've thought of it now since using Filmic Pro or similar apps show greater quality compared to stock apps.

@@amashaziz2212 can't be compare by android U know what is the answer why Android has bad optimization compare o iPhone in some cases not All

Wait really?

I don't think you can, in terms of their capabilities and features but on real world direct comparison of performance, I think you can't as their full potential are on different OSs. Am not an expert though.

eh? Windows has been on Qualcomm for at least two years now.