Start of own rotary engine! Engine or smoke machine? Part 3

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Meanwhile in the Garage

Meanwhile in the Garage

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In this video, I will try to use the correct proportion of two-stroke oil and gasoline to deal with the smoke problem.
Did it work for me, we will see in the video
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@meanwhileinthegarage
@meanwhileinthegarage Рік тому
If you're not sure what it's about: Here are the videos about this engine: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/rY93aYV-oYKhsIU.html ukposts.info/have/v-deo/aXWBaG-PrJubt4E.html
@etackhelicopter
@etackhelicopter Рік тому
Try putting a reed valve from a two stroke on the intake side. It will not solve the oil consumption, but you may see an increase in compression as it appears your rotory valve has no mechanical means of dividing the compression chamber from the intake port. I do have an idea to help compression seal better. Slot 2 opposing sides of the rotary valve chamber, and insert modified apex seals/springs from a mazda rotary engine. This way, the apex seals will press on the rotary valve, sealing the valve from the compression chamber, and helping to separate the intake/exhaust cycles. Continue to use 2 stroke fuel, to help lubricate the rotary valve and apex seals. You are doing what I imagined years ago, it's just amazing to see the problems I imagined come to life.
@paradiseisland69
@paradiseisland69 9 місяців тому
Try liquid piston engines.
@TrashcanScienceStuff
@TrashcanScienceStuff 4 місяці тому
i think the way this engine is design it might be perfect for hydrogen gas
@L0rdDarkness
@L0rdDarkness Рік тому
The issue was never about the fuel, but a sealing issue in the rotary exhaust. You need some rotary shaft seals to prevent top end oil from seeping into the combustion/exhaust chamber. In the build video, you were smearing the rotary exhaust in oil, meaning you created a "Total-loss oiling system", meaning you must continuously feed it oil or the shaft seizes, ergo it smokes - A LOT, because it continually feeds and burns of the excess oil. To (hopefully) prevent that, you need to design the rotary exhaust shaft with bearings and seals, however doing so is incredibly difficult, because of the fine tolerance, added with the risk of the heat from combustion expanding the shaft and seizing it. Unless, you can control how much the shaft would potentially expand, meaning you'd need to make it water cooled.
@ct92404
@ct92404 Рік тому
My understanding is that was one of the problems for manufacturers too, and one of the reasons why rotary engines never really caught on.
@WhatsIncluded
@WhatsIncluded Рік тому
​@@ct92404 is that the infamous apex seal I hear about on the dorito engines?
@ct92404
@ct92404 Рік тому
@@WhatsIncluded Lol yup I think that is indeed the same problematic seal. And now I want a bag of Doritos...great.
@TheMrDarius
@TheMrDarius Рік тому
I think if he can manage to seal it better and install some sort of way to adjust the timing by loosening a screw and moving something in a similar fashion of adjusting a distributor. Just to give it a little bit of retard and advance abilities of the timing. I think that would also help alot with the cold starts.
@johnblaze5553
@johnblaze5553 Рік тому
💯 agreed.. Also, this engine would benefit from a turbo. Not just as a power adder. Ideally, you'd put it on an aftermarket ecu as well.
@lhkraut
@lhkraut Рік тому
It always takes time to fine tune something, especially a new engine. You sir, have an incredible gift! If I had 1% of your skill, I would be very happy! Thank you for sharing all of these wonderful videos.
@kleckerklotz9620
@kleckerklotz9620 Рік тому
He got there by doing it and failing. If you want to get a skill, go for it and fail often.
@lhkraut
@lhkraut Рік тому
@@kleckerklotz9620 I agree. You can not succeed without trying. Failure along the way is how we learn.
@piousminion7822
@piousminion7822 3 місяці тому
I think it doesn't start until oil gets around the cam shaft... and the oil makes a better seal, so it can start. There MUST be another way to seal it better, but I don't know of a way. Maybe the oil seals they use on automotive engines? idk Please, don't give up. This is amazing.
@threeclaws9963
@threeclaws9963 Рік тому
Дала аьтту бойла хьан,ваша!Дала хьайн кхиамашкахь са вохийла хьо!
@user-me7hq2wn4t
@user-me7hq2wn4t Рік тому
Дала аьтто бойл хьа. Бензинах даьт тоьхч болх дик бо бохш ву моьт су хьо.
@DiyEcoProjects
@DiyEcoProjects Рік тому
So if we ever need a way for the Earth to adjust back down from "Zero Emissions" we can fire this up again lol Its beautiful and well made, i loved watching you build it. Well done brother!
@jamkuder
@jamkuder Рік тому
A lot of comments here especially the rotary shaft, if ever you will rectify or repair it soon it will become perfect do not stop like the other succesful men did before they became famous kudos bro, nice work!
@blahorgaslisk7763
@blahorgaslisk7763 Рік тому
It's so well built and aesthetically pleasing I want it to work... But even though it's not a success it's a very well built failure. Design and fabrication is top notch, the seals however were not able to keep the oil where it was supposed to be. It's interesting that you managed to make something that looks like it could have come from a factory. Usually a prototype like this looks a lot cruder, less like an engine ready for use and more like a rig built to test ideas on. Just building it and getting it to actually run, however smoky, is a feat on it's own.
@oddjobbob8742
@oddjobbob8742 Місяць тому
The comments in this UKposts can be reduced to cooling, lubrication/sealing, and, possibly, “aeration”. It would be best to solve these issues without having to rebuild the engine. With that in mind I would suggest the following. 1. Regarding cooling. Figure out a way to run water over the cooing fins. Especially the fins around the valve shaft. 2. Regarding lubrication hand sealing. Start with half a bottle of well oiled gasoline and as the engine runs add straight gasoline until you are running without oil in the fuel. 3. Add a crankcase ventilation valve. Especially if, after number 2, the amount of smoke is reduced. 4. This requires some amount of rework, but less than cutting a new valve shaft. Reduce the amount of oil ports in the tube that feeds oil to the valve shaft. Make sure the oil ports are only placed over the “bearing” areas of the shaft. 5. If possible, reduce the oil pressure in the valve shaft oil tube. You may be getting so much pressure that oil is forced into the valve openings. If any of these have a positive impact then you know that, if number 1, you need to redesign with a water jacket. If number 2, use straight gasoline. If number 4, then you might also consider an actual head on the top of the cylinder that cuts the valve shaft in half. This would allow you to but bronze oil bearing bushings along the valve shaft in the head, and Teflon seals in the shaft on each side of the bushings. I really admire your ingenuity in bringing this project as far as you have, and hope you find the means to continue. Cheers! ojb
@user-of8pd5rm5u
@user-of8pd5rm5u Рік тому
Ассалому алаекум варохмотиллох ва боракатху 👍👍👍🇺🇿
@kehenabeach4418
@kehenabeach4418 Рік тому
Add a little DDT or some other pesticide and you got a GREAT fumigation machine! I still love how you thought outside the box on it! Awesome stuff!
@M__W__S__R
@M__W__S__R Рік тому
Ma shaa Allah, It works great 👍👍👍👍👍
@jonas_55
@jonas_55 11 місяців тому
really nice project!! A tip from me. Use the special fuel Aspen 2 and it no longer smokes.
@khaosnitro
@khaosnitro Рік тому
it works!😮
@atmo8944
@atmo8944 Рік тому
Турбо гал яль цу мотори 😁. А так досмотрел доконца, рекламу посмотрел, лайк поставил и конечно же коммент. Дала аьтто бойл 👍
@legleg752
@legleg752 Рік тому
perhaps try a 50:1 ratio and maybe lean the carb out more. pretty sure i saw dripping from the exhaust which would suggest way too much fuel/oil is going in, or perhaps it is falling out of suspension in the crank case
@sfsdreamer3844
@sfsdreamer3844 Рік тому
This is literally insane! Cool bro!
@keymad4
@keymad4 4 місяці тому
I watched you build this ages ago, I loved that video just like all the other ones, thanks for sharing.
@irkedoff
@irkedoff Рік тому
Complete success in my book, as long as you learned from it. Thanks for the videos. They are inspiring to me.
@zaurzetov7567
@zaurzetov7567 Рік тому
Красавчик!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Alexey-Kuzmichev
@Alexey-Kuzmichev Рік тому
теперь нужен глушитель с резонатором !
@rotax636nut5
@rotax636nut5 Рік тому
Try getting rid the oil supply to the head completely and rely solely on the oil in the fuel for the lubrication of the valve assembly
@oddjobbob8742
@oddjobbob8742 Місяць тому
This is probably a notable suggestion, but the oil in the fuel will be less likely to reach the hot exhaust end of the rotary valve, where lubrication and cooling is especially needed.
@capthowdy126
@capthowdy126 Рік тому
still my heroes for making a engine in his garage. id could only dream of being able to do something like this. hell i couldnt take his garage an a working known working engjine an make one if i had all the parts layed out to copy.
@biomorphic
@biomorphic Рік тому
It would be interesting to know how many HP this engine produces. Also, I would like to see this engine to be used to power something you build.
@chrishenniker5944
@chrishenniker5944 Рік тому
I’d love to see this in a small go kart or small car, it’ll be interesting to see what the engine’s performance and potential really is.
@Asad-2166
@Asad-2166 Рік тому
Mashallah love your works 🇬🇧🇧🇩🙏
@experimenchannelideas
@experimenchannelideas Рік тому
Aamin
@RaksasaMentawai
@RaksasaMentawai Рік тому
Vernier cam pulleys, twin rotary valves to adjust overlap etc. Tricky to stop sump oil from getting into the intake. Electronically Actuated solenoid valves will be the future. Then we can choose 2 stroke, or 4 stroke 😜 Koenigsegg is working on these
@polini__perception
@polini__perception Рік тому
Good job bro im with you ❤
@danysantacruz9613
@danysantacruz9613 Рік тому
Saludos desde el Paraguay a todo el equipo de trabajo
@hectordeleon7859
@hectordeleon7859 9 місяців тому
Amazing work! What is the tolerance required between the valve cylinder and the valve body? I plan to use your design for my project straight 6 engine. Thanks for your research and hard work!
@kellyjones334
@kellyjones334 Рік тому
I use to race snowmobiles that had a rotary valve engine. There was bearings and seals on the shaft both sides of the shaft to seal off the crankcase. The 2 cycle oil separates from the gas to lubricant the bearings in the bottom end. When we rebuilt them there was always a oil build up in the bottom end. I think you are sucking some of this oil up threw your rotary valve and going to the top of the piston. I believe this is where you are getting all your smoke problems. I hope this helps you out.
@moparman1962
@moparman1962 3 місяці тому
Yes.
@sergeyA713
@sergeyA713 Рік тому
Почувствовал этот запах )
@Dikz.70769
@Dikz.70769 Рік тому
From Malaysia fan's watching ❤️ enjoy amazing sharing video ✌️ Always support your UKposts channel my friend 😅
@meanwhileinthegarage
@meanwhileinthegarage Рік тому
Thank you so much 🤗
@crazymtbrider
@crazymtbrider Рік тому
Success-and no burnt out drills trying to start either👍
@lokedog916
@lokedog916 Рік тому
That is so badass! I love the idea, anyway to reduce the oil burning? It would be cool to see it without 2 stroke oil. Maybe roller bearing rotary cam with sealing rings between the bearings and the ports to keep combustion gasses in the chamber
@moparman1962
@moparman1962 3 місяці тому
Yes.
@lamongreater4758
@lamongreater4758 9 місяців тому
This is so amazing...I'd love to see this on a motorcycle engine but the cyclider head part only,pardon me for this imagination of mine😅...no intake and exhaust valve but a shafting with intake and exhaust in it...i dont know if my imagination is right but i think its more easy to fix the timing to run the engine, timing and the size of intake and exhaust within the shaft and the shaft size...
@SBJCREATORS
@SBJCREATORS Рік тому
amazing idea
@dieselfanatic5220
@dieselfanatic5220 Рік тому
I don’t know but it might possibly work but I would Put cross hatching in the cylinder wall to make the piston rings spin to keep oil out of the cylinder. Great idea and this is amazing work keep it up
@moparman1962
@moparman1962 3 місяці тому
That could only help having a standard crosshatch fine scratch pattern on the cylinder wall.
@oddjobbob8742
@oddjobbob8742 Місяць тому
I think this is accomplished in Video 2 where the engine is actual made to run.
@hassanbazzi3545
@hassanbazzi3545 Рік тому
Well done guys 👏
@Wandera1970
@Wandera1970 Рік тому
Proof of concept shows you idea at least works. I bet with some fine tuning better seals for the shafts the smoke issue will not be an issue. just make sure you patent your idea before some one steals it
@maksfrance7290
@maksfrance7290 Рік тому
Супер Мастер!👍👍👍
@nunnk105
@nunnk105 4 місяці тому
If it runs, it can be optimized. I hope you will come up with an idea to make it work better if you are still interested.
@yodasbff3395
@yodasbff3395 Рік тому
Interesting 👍.
@cliodream
@cliodream 8 місяців тому
WOW You did it...
@randytravis3998
@randytravis3998 Рік тому
do you have a breather set up so the crankcase pressure don't blow oil past the rings/ piston ??
@johnblaze5553
@johnblaze5553 Рік тому
Turbo it my man... trust, it will run so much cleaner, smoother, and with more power.
@Paulman50
@Paulman50 Рік тому
It runs well, just needs a little refining. Synthetic oil at 50:1 would be a start 👍😊
@moparman1962
@moparman1962 3 місяці тому
Yes.
@valterjunior5177
@valterjunior5177 3 місяці тому
It would be interesting to measure its power! It's important to run this engine as fast as possible... It doesn't have a valve, so there won't be any risk of floating 😅
@rajveerjargia4194
@rajveerjargia4194 3 місяці тому
Thanks god your hard work pay of 👏👏👏👏👏👏
@jdmmike7225
@jdmmike7225 Рік тому
I would love to see you guys try like E85 or maybe something with a bit higher octane rating.
@oddjobbob8742
@oddjobbob8742 Місяць тому
This was an interesting comment. I was thinking AVGAS, 100 octane but then I remembered. The octane rating only means the gasoline is harder to ignite. Needs more compression. Higher octane won’t help.
@TundeEszlari
@TundeEszlari Рік тому
You are a very good UKpostsr. ❤
@farfouineur7151
@farfouineur7151 Рік тому
Salut, je viens de regarder les deux autres vidéos sur ce moteur, c'est du très beau travail, mais il y a encore deux problèmes à régler! Premièrement, sauf erreur de ma part, il n'y a pas de reniflard, si la pression du bas moteur ne s'équilibre pas avec la pression atmosphérique ça pose des problèmes de surpression et dépression dans le bas moteur. Deuxièmement, le tube de lubrification (le long de l'arbre de distribution) est percé de nombreux trous qui giclent dans les lumières d'admission et d'échappement ce qui, à mon avis, et responsable de la fumée. Il faudrait juste un trou au début de ce tube + une rainure circulaire sur l'arbre de distribution juste en face + une rainure le long de l'arbre, ce serait suffisant pour lubrifier l'arbre et il n'y aurait pas d'huile injectée dans les lumières. Ceci dit j'adore le concept, j'y avait déjà pensé, merci de l'avoir réalisé.
@Hajci16
@Hajci16 Рік тому
We missed you guys!
@Yarahi_Katarho
@Yarahi_Katarho Рік тому
Дала аьтто бойла хьа воша Дала беркати бойла хьа болх. Дик Пхьар Ма ша Аллахь.
@meanwhileinthegarage
@meanwhileinthegarage Рік тому
Амин вай массер. Дал си дойл хьа са ваш.
@FKE23837
@FKE23837 7 місяців тому
All the smoke is from cam lubrication. Cam lubrication means it definitely doesn't need oil in fuel. Enough seeps into cylinder from there.
@oddjobbob8742
@oddjobbob8742 Місяць тому
This is a very interesting comment. I was thinking there didn’t need to be oil in the fuel as well but I couldn’t think of how that could be demonstrated short of running the engine with straight gasoline and running the risk of sieving the valve shaft. But your comment about the volume of smoke indicating the valve shaft is sufficiently oiled by pump and the crankcase oil is the “proof” needed to run the engine on progressive less and less oiled gasoline. If, as the fuel contains less oil, there is less smoking then the oil in the exhaust is “blow-by” either in the cylinder wall or the valve shaft.
@ccwbaitsandtackle
@ccwbaitsandtackle 7 місяців тому
Please show us your engine working with less oil in the fuel and then add to a small vehicle 🙏👍👍👍👍
@madcapmagician6018
@madcapmagician6018 Рік тому
the entire engine is proof of concept, just needs some tweaking 😁👍
@alanak3210
@alanak3210 Рік тому
I bet the neighbours love you !
@metalhunter3301
@metalhunter3301 Рік тому
Hi deine videos sind gut! ich gucke sie gerne sehr informativ...от души!! молодец
@meanwhileinthegarage
@meanwhileinthegarage Рік тому
Vielen Dank!
@kentkavkazec2011
@kentkavkazec2011 Рік тому
Ассаламу 1алайкум! Мовсар, по моему с маслом вы немного переборшили, дымит будто бросили дымовую шашку. Как бы тебя не осудили за загрязнение окружающей среды😆. Но ты все таки завел его с чем и поздравляю! Аллах1а аьтто бойла!
@meanwhileinthegarage
@meanwhileinthegarage Рік тому
Ва1алайкум Салам. Амин, Дал си дойл хьа са ваш.
@iteerrex8166
@iteerrex8166 Рік тому
I’d suggest to look at the whole combustion process. Do a full stoichiometric calculation. Clearly it’s not combusting fully.
@oddjobbob8742
@oddjobbob8742 Місяць тому
I disagree. I think the gasoline is combusting completely, or as near to completely as makes a difference. The smoke is the exhaust is grey/white which is oil not uncombusted gasoline. Uncombusted gasoline would show up as more blackish.
@iteerrex8166
@iteerrex8166 Місяць тому
@@oddjobbob8742 Ah, so then find the source of the leak, or design flaw.
@royallan3717
@royallan3717 11 місяців тому
Well done men
@nathkrupa3463
@nathkrupa3463 Рік тому
Add a exhaust pipe better work sir and nice engine thanks for sharing video sir.
@the_keeponbuilding
@the_keeponbuilding 4 місяці тому
Mooie projecten heb je. Ik doe dat ook. Alleen niet op UKposts.. Groetjes uit Eindhoven
@saidmuhammad3525
@saidmuhammad3525 Рік тому
👍
@user-uk5me3hl2u
@user-uk5me3hl2u Рік тому
🔥🔥🔥
@douwetendam5097
@douwetendam5097 Рік тому
Have you tried expirimenting with different carburetor jets?
@dustinolsen4994
@dustinolsen4994 Рік тому
I'd also try 2-cycle oil for main oil
@M__W__S__R__SH
@M__W__S__R__SH Рік тому
Cool 😎👍👍👍👍👍👍
@philippeperrin8675
@philippeperrin8675 Рік тому
I think it is dangerous to go below 4%. On the other hand, the implementation of an EGR solution (exhaust gas recirculation) would seem very interesting. It is even likely that the mixture would then go to 2%. Another solution would be to set up a separate lubrication of the rotary valve.
@moparman1962
@moparman1962 3 місяці тому
Yes.
@Spawndukes
@Spawndukes Рік тому
Just reduce the oil pressure to the shaft with a constriction in the feed pipe.
@sowu95
@sowu95 Рік тому
Definitely a motor. 👌👍👍
@Kyle-vf8xj
@Kyle-vf8xj 10 місяців тому
Is it powerful enough to run a generator
@user-ff3dc8mf9b
@user-ff3dc8mf9b 6 місяців тому
It may be too low air on in? And too many fuel?
@altmar1659
@altmar1659 Рік тому
Х1алам лати ах и ца борз ю хо!💪
@renielksonsousamoura1764
@renielksonsousamoura1764 4 місяці тому
Olha deixe um exaustor para carter do motor. A fumaça indica que o lubrificante do cabeçote está escorrendo para dentro da câmara de combustão. Você precisa desenvolver um sistema de contenção e do lubrificante equivalente ao que os anéis de raspagem faz no pistão.
@__fokkus5260
@__fokkus5260 10 місяців тому
I think that valve rotor needs seals like this on rotor in Wankel engine,that would seal up combustion chamber from oil
@T3chWarrior
@T3chWarrior Рік тому
Did I create an engine or a smoke generator... Yes!
@Avto05
@Avto05 Рік тому
Брат возьмись за новый проект так скучно без твоих новых видео
@PlanetadeDeus
@PlanetadeDeus 11 місяців тому
We want to see a motorcycle with this engine
@Dfishingofficial
@Dfishingofficial Рік тому
Krena berapa CC om.
@stevealan2289
@stevealan2289 Рік тому
I believe I can help with that smoke issue. I myself don't have the resources to build or machine anything but I believe I have some useful ideas.
@cvabds
@cvabds 8 місяців тому
I want a turbo
@rhohikmunthoha3308
@rhohikmunthoha3308 9 місяців тому
try to observe their rotary machine using apex seal
@user-fs4ty3po1p
@user-fs4ty3po1p 11 місяців тому
Аллах1 аьтту бойла хьа,
@meanwhileinthegarage
@meanwhileinthegarage 11 місяців тому
Амин, хьаъ бойл са Ваш.
@fstranak
@fstranak Рік тому
hey! did you change channel name?
@RakkaLorenseao
@RakkaLorenseao Рік тому
ма хаз хитакх сун и хьал летта ! Дал этто бойл шу !
@meanwhileinthegarage
@meanwhileinthegarage Рік тому
Амин, вай массер Бойл са ваш
@X_Killer.
@X_Killer. 9 місяців тому
О, так он работает🔥 ☺️
@thesupremecmo1622
@thesupremecmo1622 Рік тому
It would be cool if you put this on a go cart or a minibike
@user-pr7nz3wi5k
@user-pr7nz3wi5k Рік тому
Суна луург лелош вукх хьо ваш, дала аьтту Бойла. Лайк ю хьун
@meanwhileinthegarage
@meanwhileinthegarage Рік тому
Амин Дал си дойл хьа са ваш
@kevinwayne7546
@kevinwayne7546 Рік тому
check compression then do a cylinder leak down test. you will find the culprit. probably the rings.
@MrTicTac955
@MrTicTac955 Рік тому
Асаламу алайкум брать хьоьц связе мух валур вар хьун хаъ там бар и цхьан станок чертеж ц карйор сун ас описат йич сун и чертежш яит аг1о хир бари хьа
@asddasd8142
@asddasd8142 Рік тому
a little bit and you have 1 mio abbos 😎 any ideas for a video at this moment? 😁
@bayram46ede
@bayram46ede Рік тому
iyi güzelde sinek ilaclamada yaparmıki
@RitaElaineHeltonBarker-uz4sz
@RitaElaineHeltonBarker-uz4sz 4 місяці тому
It needs a two stroke muffler with an oil rag in it
@robertjordan3270
@robertjordan3270 Рік тому
Power something to see if a correction to this motor makes sense Go forward anyway
@user-uk5me3hl2u
@user-uk5me3hl2u Рік тому
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@user-uk5me3hl2u
@user-uk5me3hl2u Рік тому
✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻
@gualicho_uy
@gualicho_uy Рік тому
The exhaust throws oil. I think the engine is burning 2T and engine Oil
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انا الماينسى ولفه انا الدمعه التجري ويه ميه انا الفارك هوى من فاركوني انا التنشد سماي عن مطرها ربيع الكلب خالي ثمرها العين الك هم تشتاك والشوك ذابحه من يكبر الحب ويطول وتكثر سنينه تكون عشره عمر والله حامينه يمحبوب الشوگ شوگ لوينتظر وكت بينه نحچي قصه لجيالنه ونكول هذا الجره بينه وسلامتكم
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