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They are EVIL to the core....

Still God's children 😊

@@chieftolu5275 what does this mean ? If someone commits a crime/abuse with INTENT, they are not above the law ! If someone has NPD/ASPD/Dark Triad traits, attends church/is active in a church, they can still be held accountable !

@@chieftolu5275then let God have them

Yes. Thank you for pointing that out for those that are dealing with the family/parent issues...They want to take away your soul...but then would have to find someone else to demean... One should become very observant living with family under these circumstances...

True, my parents were both narcs but they weren't psychopaths. Unfortunately I married a psychopath when I was 20. I always thought I was a loser and deserved this guy. Now that I'm 70, I see the truth.

People base everything on family ...no if the family is full of Narcs and psychopath you don't have any support...👿

@Kahlo Diego I understand 😢

Yes. Entire family and now husband. Wish I knew this years ago .

- Reveal little - do not be intimidated - - will destroy you - get out; get away - conflict resolution does not work

I know. I felt guilty because when mine passed, I felt so much relief.

I would buy many beers to hear your stories and share mine.Unbeleivable what they can do!Glad you are doing better!!

@@upnorthviking823 Whether you want 🍺

It's sad to feel that way, just hold on to the good side of yourself.

I felt guilt for wanting his death to end our suffering. Not anymore

When I talk with friends about my life experience with a narcopath parent, it's like a psycho thriller movie script.

Everyone is fooled by them. But not the ones who love you

Yes, I usually do not even talk about my experiences because people do not believe me or think I am exaggerating, or worse, there is something wrong with me. Just know that you are not alone.

@@margochanning6868 Thank you.

Margo Channing What you said!!!! To this day no one believes me. Friends / acquaintances of my parents don't believe me....... except for 2 friends of my mother who got a taste from my Sociopath half sister because the friends dared try to help my mother. About 4 months ago my therapist told me that when he first heard my life story and the garbage I went through, he didn't believe me! He spoke to my spouse and children and they verified everything. For a therapist not to believe a person.....SMDH. My spouse is also messed up from growing up with a mentally ill mother and in many ways behaves like his mother. Not an easy marriage.

SAME, minus the narc dad part but he did downplay it. They show no remorse, no conscience, in private of course. While I am glad I can't relate trying to understand them is downright impossible and depressing. Wishing you all the best healing

Psychopath father, malignant narcissist mother and narcissist brother. I’m living real life hell. My downfall and breakdown was their sole mission for the last 30 years. They broke me down into a shell of a person, abused me in ways that I can’t even go back to those memories, without getting severely triggered and panicked. I always knew it was wrong what was happening. Recently it became so clear to me. They weren’t just behaving badly, they weren’t just calling out how horrible I was because I was, they weren’t just stalking me, abusing me, interjecting any other connection (friends/office/dating) and talk poorly of me, belittling me, mocking me because I deserved it. It suddenly came to me that they were doing it because they wanted to do. For my father it was about complete control and to diminish sense of self entirely. If I was doing well, it was all him, and if I wasn’t, I deserved complete abandonment. He would flirt and take my female friends out without informing me, he would stalk me in college, and show up everyday, he would email my telecom provider and ask them to send the call logs. I always feel like I’m being followed. For my mother their was a weird jealousy towards daughter since birth, she hated my guts. I was terrible since the day I was born. She burnt my hand with an iron box when I was 5, she called the cops on me after a violent episode when I wouldn’t open the door, called me mentally unstable to my college, and asked to be taken away for 2 years. I ended up taking 8 years to complete college. Bad mouthing me everywhere. My extended family looks at me like I’m dirt. She’s happy in breaking me down. Violent episodes. Threatening messages. Showing up to my house, banging the door, creating a scene. My brother I thought he was the one person who understood me in all this chaos. My rock. I was shattered when I realised that wasn’t. He was the flying monkey for my parents. Then even more insidiously, I realised he was not just the messenger, he was playing active role in my put down and abuse. Everyone of them went relentlessly to make me the scapegoat, to strip me of my identity and replace it with their filth, to subjugate me to extreme torture and watch me in anguish. This so called family that made it their mission to ruin me. All these dots are connecting to me now. And it’s released me actually. From this trauma bond I had, still do. I’m working very hard now to break all my negative ideas which got in my head. But I feel like I can now embark on rediscovering my life again. God and anyone who’s reading this, I hope I have the strength to fight these demons and go complete no contact. I wish you in your healing journey. ❤

I can relate. I am working on escaping my psychopathic mother and narcissistic golden child sister myself. I don’t have an avoidant narcissistic dad, though. He is aware of their abuse, just don’t understand they are abusive himself. He lacks knowledge of narcissisism.

@@msredcurtains ❤️❤️❤️❤️🤗 I just wanted you to know, you're not alone in this madness, that I believe you and feel for what you've been through ❤️ please, do all what's in your effort to get away from them before it's too late. These people can really kill your soul, sanity and then the body. I don't want to scare you but I know how dangerous they are. These monsters are not your family. A loving, sane family isn't supposed to be like that. Believe me, better to be alone in this case so you can heal and get to know healthy, human people. If you like to talk. Please let me know. I wish you peace and serenity ☺️

I wish that I could be your friend and talk to you sometimes. Although I didn’t have a father (he passed away) I went through r the exact same things with my narc mother & narc golden child sister. When I explain my family dynamic to anyone they just can’t comprehend how a mother could envy & hate her own daughter. Also, how a sibling can join in the abuse. It took me a long time to try to recover from what they did to me. I’m very low contact with them now & I’ll probably never see them again in life because I’m sure they’ll join together to try to abuse me once were around each other. I had to participate in therapy, which helped some but my mother’s abuse definitely left me diagnosed with cPTSD. I’ve been away from them for about six years now but I couldn’t imagine if I never escaped. Best wishes to you and your healing!

True.....:-(

Yes.

100%

Sadly, yes. 💔

Same (or similar. I don’t think he’s as high on the Machiavellian but I see the narcissism and the psychopathy for sure tho). Hugs. It took me about a decade to get half “normal” again.

Hang out with Dr. Carter and get some therapy specific to this abuse. You will be so grateful you did.

Keep going. Dont stop. Do it for yourself. Ask for help. Be strong. Lots of prayers and peace every day to you.

Same here. I find this information very useful

Please help me

Im Praying for you right now.🙏😇

I know what you mean. These types of people live in a whole different reality that is warped in their mind and they will not enter into any kind of normalcy. It's best to get away if you can.

My caregiver mother 😖 I am 40 and I'm now getting a nurse because I wanna put my hands on her. I have multiple sclerosis that doesn't mean Im stupid 😏IM DONE.

It's the same for me. Just maybe 3 years ago, I was always touting that "there's good in everyone"; and, "there's a light inside of everyone", things like this. I was almost toxically positive about it. Well, the devil must've heard me; because he sent some of these types of people, my way, after my husband died. Oh yes; and those memes that say things like, "Those who stay, during your darkest times, are your real friends...." etc: well, after my husband died, those who entered my life, or became a bigger part of my life, as so-called "friends", were these types of people. They stuck around me, to literally destroy me. One told me, "I'll always be in your corner." My thought was, "Yeah, you'll always be in my corner, trying to destroy me."

@@GG-ul8ne 🙌💪😇

well the sooner you realize it the sooner you can free yourself from it

They are better liars than narcissists with none of the honesty to make up for it.

Yes, they are total liars because they have no remorse or empathy,therefore no feeling of guilt while lying.

lmao

Congratulations 👏👏👏👏💖

One month here ✋

@@lillyandtheghosts3597 💖💖💖👏👏👏

andi g, Good for you! 2 months free!

15 yrs NC

I'm with you. It's almost incomprehensible.

Since narcissism is a mental illness, it doesn’t help to compare the neurological wiring of a healthy person to a narcissist. Narcissists are simple. They remained in “object splitting” in the first 18 months of life, and a resulting “stuck” projection process got going due to abuse. They never form a self. They require a constant stream of dopamine to calm the emerging terror of “nothingness”. The illusion of control provides that. A person who’s position is to self sacrifice to get the narcissist their dopamine isn’t thinking clearly when they say they would rather hurt than cause anyone else any kind of pain. The narcissist seeks out people who are looking to get their needs met by making sure that the earliest attachment figures aren’t in pain. That’s somehow “self” esteem. Sacrificing self to gain self esteem (insanity) is known in relationship addiction recovery programs as “self defeating behavior”. Perfect behavior to attract a narcissist, who believes that only he/she exists, and “others” are an extension of them. Even better is to encourage the target’s belief that he/she is causing others pain by not carrying their pain for them. The entire problem is driven by the dopamine provider. The narcissist isn’t an addict, because he/she cannot recover, and their dopamine is to survive. Codependents are addicts because they are not using dopamine to survive, but instead to medicate. Codependents can and do recover. There is nothing useful in comparing narcissists to codependents, because it goes nowhere. The addict is the problem because that situation has a solution. There is no solution for the narcissist.

@Orixá Rose Yes, I totally agree that “feeling sorry” is absurd for predators. You bring up a vitally important issue. On the spectrum of Cluster B mental illness (and they are on it), those predators are at the extreme end. The mid and higher brains aren’t connected, so the lower brain has the whole show, and the rest is used for manipulation to survive. A lizard would do the same if it needed other tools to exist. Unfortunately the targets of these predators judge them as being functional humans instead of putting up a boundary wall (like your healthy immune system does). How? The “all good, all bad” delusion (very young children “think” this way) A predator who isn’t connected to empathy isn’t in that situation. We (who are connected to empathy) aren’t in that situation of “all good, all bad” either. As a human being we are spiritual. We need a Higher Power to be “just human”. Balancing our dark and light. A broken person would not need that. They don’t have empathy due to trauma. They are adult, traumatized infants, consumed with rage and envy. It’s just a fact. The response we need with that? That’s the most important thing to get clear on. Unfortunately people either don’t think these people exist, or (and this is worse), they see these destroyed people as “bad”. That takes away the “response energy”. Boundaries. Instead of dealing with the fact that our own inner landscape has been traumatized (in our own family system), we use predators like this as “placeholders” for “the enemy”. Healing attachment trauma with family creates boundaries against predators. Using predators as placeholders for not facing unhealed inner trauma is powerful projection. Protection of parents. Predators are real, but so are we, along with everything that happened to us. Becoming real means exchanging parents as Higher Powers for a real spiritual relationship. Using predators as the “bad guys” destroying us can sort of useful. It keeps us at 4 years old. But not to avoid our inner trauma (the much, much bigger problem). Finally, not dealing with trauma and it’s true source attracts these predators. This is how they are around anyway. For narcissists? Hating them or loving them is the same. That’s how they energize. Loving ourselves (in a Higher Power relationship) will bring a solution.

That’s why we were such great “victims” for them 🖤🦋

Exactly Me too! Thats why it took me so long to figure it out!

@Kathy H My husband of 28 years is AT MINIMUM a COVERT Narcissist among others, including a Psychopath 😭.

@ Kathy H. I didn’t know either..if someone had told me that this kind of evil exists.. I don’t think I would have believed it 🥺

Jesus talks about this

@@Coldfront-sg3tt Jesus talks about a lot of things.

Solution bible John 10-10 study

Same experience for me. Marriage lasted 30 years with every kind of abuse. Stole all financial resources then ran off with a girlfriend. Used to hurt my pets to get at me. Delighted in causing pain in others & would even videotape reactions to his awful abuse. Kept me coming to court to avoid paying child support. Went nuts when I went no contact. Now he uses 2 of our children to try & control me. Tells them to hate their brother & myself. He is an alcoholic with heart disease. Totally miserable without any friends.

Omg...I wonder how much those legal fees were..yes they give us ptsd...

A wise sage, a grasshopper you are no longer. I say this all the time in various forms. When they tell you who they are believe them.

They hold grudges. While exploition of a person for their sexuality, I was always to blame.

3:11 He's equating right & wrong and morality with societal norms and legality. Not the same thing - in fact they are often the exact opposite. So much for experts.

@@uterushaver8309 I don’t see that at all. He said that they will act unlawfully. Then he said they will do things that are immoral. He made no connection between legality and immorality.

Yes.

Alister found the opposite to what you describe. I n my particular experience, this man So knew continually sought emotional response to his erratic behaviour. I eventually decided the friendship was too suffocating, and nocked his calls, making no contact whatsoever. And I intend not and will not detract my decision to get him out of my life. Last night at 12..45 I heard a terrific crash downstairs and it was a beautiful thick glass fruit bowl. it was in two halves , one half on a deep pile carpet . There is no way this was not done on purpose, and his character was the only person to gave a spate key.! I'm just glad it wasn't my head gone for burton. ! This has put me on my guard.

@@valerieobrien5521 You need to get out to somewhere safe if he has access to you home.

@@valerieobrien5521 mine broke a stone pestle and mortar in half then said it was an accident

Scary to think that you were involved with one of them and that they were in your own family.😳 I still wonder what my egg donor really was. All I know is she had NPD at a minimum.

@@Liberty208 I find it interesting that people always refer to the narcissist or psycho in their life as "my..." or "mine...". People want to take ownership of them for some reason. Very strange.

I am unable to cope up with mine , it only gets worse ,my immediate family is in no way supportive , I feel sorry for them but I am unable to gather myself and leave , I see no way out

You have put it perfectly, and I want to add that I have one of these ..decades of theft,lies...I finally removed for good from my life once my parents were both deceased..Pure evil..

@@heatherwhittaker6169 My other sister thinks she’s demon possessed. Most of the time nature and the darker aspects of humanity are sufficient explanation for just about any behavior - however heinous and evil. I’m sorry that you understand fully and empathize. :(

I am right there with you. I have a sister like you are describing also. My parents are gone and I have become her scapegoat. I am 2 weeks no contact now! Waiting with bated breath, the wrath that is coming my way. Shared with my son that I am a bit afraid!

​@@heatherwhittaker6169I had one of those. She stabbed our father to death in 2000. NEVER underestimate them.

Absolutely. They don't operate in a vacuum.

@OneOFThese NotLikeTheOther That's exactly right.

@OneOFThese NotLikeTheOther Exactly!

They'd have no power or control without the enablers. Enablers are making it difficult for us to survive.

@@s.b.d.manager1272 The enablers are true cowards.

Exactly.

It’s almost mystifying at first at how alarmingly uncomfortable it is to be in their presence but be hearing & seeing such a charming genuine person infront of you. It’s like your body knows what’s up but your mind is being tricked. Your body wants to run the hell away but your brain is intrigued. That early mystery turns into fucking terrifying lack of regard for other humans later on. But by then you’ve been tangled into their web & the way out seems so daunting that it’s almost easier to just stay caught in the web.

@@cailin5309 this is so true. I can relate to what you are saying I know my ex is a narcissist but I also am just beginning to think he is a psychopath too. Luckily I have managed to get away but it’s so scary to think I nearly didn’t.

It sounds like an exaggeration, but it's the simple truth. Get out.

🎯🎯

My sister exactly....they believe her because I'm crazy!!! She's tried to kill herself many times...

This is me. Trying to escape as of now.

Congrats to you both!🎉

@@maggiemae9099 Thank you for your caring and encouraging words. Yes, I will keep in fighting for my inner peace and am most grateful for such wonderful support from people like you.

@@maggiemae9099 And I hope you could overcome all the injuries your father left. All the best for you.

@Gordon Fornow Thank you for your answer. Yes, I am fine now, and recovering every day. I am glad you could avoid the worst things. I now know I will look much more closely at signs in the future. I wish you all the best.

@Orixá Rose oh poor you. Höre are you doing? Yes, they are. And still it is so hard to leave (but worth all the effort, I think). I wish you force and stamina and all the best.

@Orixá Rose exactly that,hardly anyone sees it and only about 1 in 10 can spot a psychopath,they are people possessed.

25, any challenge?

@@patmorote6900 seriously? It's not a competition much less something to brag about!? 🙄😒🤦‍♀️😬🥱🤔

@@patmorote6900 28 for me, but 2 of those were getting my divorce. I have seen many who say they survived 30-40 years with one of these "individuals".

@@tdr_paraadvisor3996 It is not bragging, it is a survivor's testimony.

Twyla klumpp, not bragging, just happy to have survive the ordeal. By the way, can't divorce, she's got me to the cleaner and lost everything. Now we are both dirt poor.

Absolutely! I just gave up taking about what went on at home, because other people would judge ME. I'm not the one who was acting crazy or violent, or cheating, but I was always instantly judged for staying in these relationships.

@@kathleenreardon8943 same here. I'm judged for staying. I love her

@MUSTBE1776 however you choose to take Dr. Carter’s “meaning” is your choice. It’s clear to see he finds it difficult to have to describe these kinds of people. That’s why he stated early on in the video he will NOT take these kinds of people on as clients. I personally take that to “mean” if it’s uncomfortable for a well educated, well experienced, and well concerned psychologist to speak on the matter, then that is all the proof needed to prove it’s extremely difficult to deal with/leave said type of person. Obviously, you understand and are proof of what i am saying or you wouldn’t have stayed or dealt with such person for twenty years. Hugs to you, dear one.

See the Chameleon, Lying there in the sun, All things to everyone, RUN! RUN AWAY!!!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@MUSTBE1776 So sorry to hear this !!! You must be a kind soul who thought that you could fix him.

This is my truth today 💘

So Ur going to expect every relationship to be Pyscopathic.. I doubt you'd even see one coming.

@@man_of_lawlessness Found the narc! It's you!!

I used to try to keep my Narc mom and Sis off balance by being unpredictable. And occassionally being physically intimidating, with cold, cold eye and voice. I was so afraid of them. I hooked up with a creep just so I could move out.

❤❤❤ I am so sorry to hear.

I truly want that for you, Shilpa. Dr. C

Run away when they least expect it , cut off all ties , fast pray and cleanse your soul. These people are the most disgusting people to walk the earth . I had to learn the hard way .

I have the same situation, my father has passed away , but my sister who looks and acts just as he did, I think she inherited it. No one can stand to be around her. She’s very fake and flirty , pretending she’s a nice person when she’s conning unsuspecting people.

@@PRETTYGIRLSWAGG918 I left a long time ago, but it did take me forever as I thought I could fix things but couldn't.

Same here. 😔

My life story . Know it too well 😢 very dangerous and destructive

Also cptsd. A person can have either one of or both ptsd & cptsd. They differ.

@@sixthsenseamelia4695 how?

@@patmorote6900 Hello Pat. I'm in the process of learning the definitions, so rather than give incorrect or misleading information I've posted some links for you as a place to start. I've added the 3rd one because I think its insightful to not only childhood but adult relationship abuse. I hope these are helpful. I originally was diagnosed with ptsd (due to one particular event) however it didn't fully take other aspects into account. Turns out, after working on the ptsd incident with my doctor, a person can have both. 🌏🌱

@@patmorote6900 Crappy Childhood Fairy ukposts.info/have/v-deo/snGKen-eqG562as.html Dr Todd Grande. Differences in acute chronic & complex trauma: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/hnhkg2mpna5-sZs.html Tricky families ukposts.info/have/v-deo/fXKhem6qjq-UsoU.html

👏👏👏 I use to think about this too, they're capable and some of them does push people to suicide at their lowest point in their life's and sometimes they're the ones pushing you to this point to then help pull the trigger. This subject needs to get on the surface, people and especially young people, need to know about these personalities.

Yes and I tried to seek therapy and she didn't even know what a narc was!!! Yea that's gonna help us...

They absolutely DO attempt to murder your spirit and who you are as a person in every way they legally can!!!

Wow, sounds exactly like what my sister did to me.

Yes, that's the most frustrating part. Because of course all you want is heal each other. But that person will do everything to turn the spotlight of madness away from them and put it on you.

Glad you made it through ok.

Same here. I survived thank God. Glad you made it. ❤

Me to and they know other psychopaths want put up with them they target young nice people take advantage of them

Yep, I've lived with one.

@Willy Wonka me to God is good i dont think I could have gone much longer and didn't exactly know how to get away cut her off she started stalking me

Saaame. Good luck

Praying!

Praying!

Good for you, that’s way past long enough. Good luck and prayers sister!

dont look back, it’s their fault not yours

cool story Yanny

Good for you. No contact, no contact, no contact!!!

Good for you. No contact, no contact, no contact!!!

Me too sister!

My ex boyfriend is the same. He went to school for this stuff too. Definitely weaponized his education and I should have known better when he asked me if I had ever taken a psychopath test in one of our first meet ups. Red flag!

@Tara-id3rk: My ex-fiance was that way, too, a malignant narc. He proudly admitted his bullying personality, said "I'm a scapper." ) (More like a bull-crapper!). And he bragged abt how he never studied in hs/college, just "somehow got good grades". Once, in stop & go traffic, he was rubber-necking an accident, & collided w/the car in front of us, totalling his car. The police officer on the scene witnessed it, & chastised him for not paying attention. My ex was fuming! He was humiliated (in front of me), stared straight ahead, refused to look at, reply, or acknowledge the cop. The 1 situation where he cdnt bully another person, & get away w/ it. Used to pat himself on the back, thought he was elite & superior...Once he screamed in rage, in my face, to intimidate me; his skin turned "white w/ rage" (it's a real thing!), foamed/spittle at the mouth, trembling, jaws clenched...and then the eyes turned EMPTY... he wasn't there anymore, like he dissociated, truly frightening! Oh, if only I'd know abt narcs back then! All the signs were there, I just didn't know.

lol he felt those were wonderful traits. lol

lmaof "professional liar" lol

The one I knew wanted to pass on his sage advice "if you're going to tell a lie tell a big one". He certainly made a habit of it. Criminality, cruelty, utter disregard for others, manipulation in the extreme, it was all there. But he knew how to be charming and everyone bought it. Nobody listens to little kids. I could have used this video 30+ years ago!

And just for the record, he made it so impossible to earn pocket money that every week I owed him money from my paper route. Petty, but there was a big ledger I had to fill in including polishing his shoes and washing the car etc. I'm sure we're all resisting the urge to vent list upon list of things.

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I’m sorry you’re going through that😔 I was once in your situation for 15 years... stay strong❤️

Leave and don’t worry about their feelings....release yourself from those chains...that guilt is for them to bear...not you God bless you

Stay strong and get away as soon as your able to break free.

I hope you'll get out asap! I wish you strength and God bless you!

That you folks . 👍

Bless ✊💚💙xx

I wish schools would teach the signs of NPD and teach empathy skills. I am sorry you went through that. The more we talk the better.

@@SybilKibble thank you Sybil. They sure should teach this stuff in 🏫. Much gratitude 🙏

​@@SybilKibble agree.. happy to chat

I'm glad you're out!

Exactly. Mine actually tied my dog’s neck with a leather belt tried to hang him. RIP Bootsie

🤣🎯

My mother was such a psychotic sadistic witch, and so similar to the witch in the Wizard of Oz movie, played brilliantly by actor Margaret Hamilton, that for most of my life I believed she must've modelled her scary threatening personality on that movie villain. But recently I found out that she and Hamilton were students together in the same Actor's Studio class long before I was born or the Wizard of Oz movie was released. It began to dawn on me that when Margaret Hamilton created her famous role, she had to be thinking of the wickedest and most sadistic people she'd ever known, and she was probably thinking also of her method actor training classes. In other words, instead of my mother imitating Hamilton's witch character, it is far more likely that Hamilton created her evil witch character based on having known my mother! Yes, I believe my mother was the original template for the wicked witch in the Wizard of Oz.

Yes, my ex tortured my dog to get to me...I had to rehome him to keep him from harm..it broke my heart..ex never asked about him, not once..

@@theharringtons2010 that bastard!

Roberta Rubin,You got a lovely smile 😊

@@jackpetersen7545 meh.. Not really...lol. I'm joking. You are gorgeous Roberta!

What prayer did you use?

Praise God! He helped me get OUT! 🙌🏻🙏🏻❤️💕

@@msfcarmichael Psalm 27 is a good one. There are many Psalms which are helpful. I would suggest reading all of them to find the one that resonates with you.

Oh wow me too, was married for 9 years, totally evil. I was receiving all my scriptures out of the book of psalms.

Demonic to their core, only our Lord can help us !

Truer words were never spoken! Dr. C is a fabulous human and makes up for the psychopathic abusive ex husband I managed to get away from with my life and amazingly my mind! He ruined my life but I am thankful I am away from him.

very credible !!! It really helped me with my cognitive dissonance ! I find it easy to ignore many speakers on the subject, but I still realize they're right .

Dr. C is the dad we all needed when we had one of the dark ones as a dad. Listening to him makes me cry. So cathartic.

You can also see how wearying he found it and how disturbing these people are to him. Imagine having one as a mother, I do. Vicious.

Story of my life but only that the siblings don’t see it but me

That’s my exact same story

Maranda, I am so sorry to see these replies that seem to enable your dark triad person or somehow soften your experience JUST BECAUSE SHE IS YOUR MOTHER. That sounds seriously f-ed up. Enjoy the distance you’ve managed to create for yourself and don’t feel guilty about looking forward to the rest of your life without that kind of abuse. Hell, buy a special bottle of booze and reserve it especially for the day she dies. I know I will. Some people will never understand that the relationship with a mother who shows such extreme and detached behavior targeted specifically at you for years (while she takes all credit for who you have become and is complemented on her “mothering”) is not the same as “not seeing eye to eye”. It’s not like she grounded you. She fucked with you in the same way primary school kids with a magnifying glass fuck with ants. For years. In no way are you “victimizing” yourself by sharing your experiences. I am glad that old age is showing her for who she is so all the people who have been fed untrue, disgusting stories will (hopefully) see them for what they are: part of a carefully planned smear campaign against the one person she should have protected, her daughter. I’m proud of you for living your best life because it ain’t easy...

Dang, I’m 71 and you just described my LIFE with my mom! She didn’t raise me, so after I was grown, she always try to make me to conform to being her! 🤦🏽‍♀️

This gives me hope. At 61 my mother gas far too much energy to stop destroying me

What an incredible story. When you get derailed by addictions it indicates that your interior is empty. But once you learn to build yourself from the inside out, the addictive lures are no longer as attractive. I hope your story provides an inspiration to many. Best wishes to you! Dr. C

Cherry Cain,You don't need a narc 😈 in your life!!

My narc would call in “favors” when he got traffic tickets. He has looked for years for ways to cheat on his taxes. This past year, he was really angry because he couldn’t hide money in an IRA. We are separated now and I have the kids, so you can imagine the hell it’s been for the kids and me.

My dad has gotten three speeding tickets and hasn’t taken responsibility for any of them.

@@morningsong8077 Yes! They love to beg and plead for someone else to take responsibility! My ex was the same!

Also, corporate big shots doing high tech / dangerous crap. Writing books and copyright their work. All the while being crazy and dangerous. Stealing equipment from the corporations and data. Evil. Gaslighting and absolutely no empathy remorse ect. Pediphile.

@@puregrit8057 that's a dangerous statement. Successful CEO's are decidedly not all psychopaths. They are overwhelmingly hard working and goal oriented though. That does not a psychopath make.

This sounds bad but it's so nice to hear this from people. I'm not the only one. We are the normal ones. We are the good people. Society is better off without their evil. ❤

@@NikkiGregory Thank you for your understanding and supportive words!

People who have not had to deal with that can’t understand how natural it is for you to feel that way. I understand your sentiment completely.

@@WDBDWK Thank you kindly!

Relief anyway, huh?wonder what dead people like that are doing?👻

Or the converse: you disappear on them, and they pop up suddenly and, in what she did to me, dangerously.

Me: I woke up to a stranger

Kingdom Travel 4 You,You are beautiful 🌹🌹🥀,You don't need a narc 😈 in your life!!

Suzanne Bertussi,You are absolutely gorgeous 🌷🌺🌹,hope you are not with a narc 😈!!

Works 🙌🏾

Not to mention, many judges suffer from the same disease and enjoy inflicting pain with no conscience 😪

My daughter is going through that very thing. It is a nightmare for all of us.

We found they kept court going so they could see and frighten their victims. Over and over.

I was told I had no choice but to suffer his abuse for the rest of my life. Other people whom seem to have some or all Dark Triad issues have been helping him make good on his threats EVEN with a signed and notarized ACKNOWLEDGMENT. the court system is where demons covertly gang rape vulnerable people. It's where the victims are REvictimized. No amount of PROOF matters when you have these kinds of people in control of EVERYTHING.

No wonder Betty Broderick killed her Ex -he was a lawyer-irony- SHE PAID FOR HIS J.D.degree.

Keep moving forward, Ashley.

The woman I was with thought all men SHOULD be 'dark triads' and was determined to show how she 'outclassed' men.

Become an AARP member. They have everything out there for veterans and likely could refer you to resources.

God always protect It. I'm here to tell to you.

Sophie,You deserve better

Why would a normal person take time out of their glorious life to call/text u to hurt u? Why would they think you even care? Definitely a narcissist action in that person’s fault. I hope you recognize & are able to stop speaking of your love for your abuser in the present tense soon.

I hope you don't get calls from him anymore. If you still do, change your phone number and tell everyone who you give it to, not to tell your ex about your new number.

Is sounds as if you still have contact with him such as accepting his phone calls or you calling him? If so, please stop. You deserve to be content and happy and not in a relationship with someone who is out to hurt you dilberately and smear it in your face. Is this love or codependency? Girl, love yourself and begin your healing journey. The only way to heal is to start living your life with him not in it. Get into therapy to break these trauma bonds. If you continue to interact with him you will never heal and find resolve and peace. Love yourself first not him.

I hope you’ve moved on and are doing better now!! You should be proud of yourself taking steps to protect your peace and leave a bad situation. Regarding your ex - if you haven’t already, you’ll need to block him and avoid contacting him or anyone in his life. Best outcome you can hope for is that he moves on and forgets about you.

Me too!!! Thank you, Dr. C.

My father was my first PSYCHOTIC NARCISSISTIC

Ditto.

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I am so sorry for your pain. Just divorced after 40 years!

@Maryann Dolan I understand exactly what you went through! I am 72 and I too was married to my Narcissist husband for 45 years, with 3 children. I found out that he was cheating on me. My youngest, my daughter, was about to turn 2 and I threw him out. But this lasted only for a week. My kids were so upset and my 7 1/2 year old son was very angry with me for " making Daddy go away ". I too believed in my vows of " for better or worse " and " until death do you part", but my conflict was unfaithfulness is in the Bible for a reason to negate the bonds of marriage. Anyway, foolishly I took him back, believing his lies that it was over, would never happen again, he was sorry, and would I forgive him. When asked why he did this ( I always want to know the reason for things) he basically turned it on me by saying that she was non-hostile, thereby insinuating that I was. Long story short, I stayed with him for 45 years. I had made the decision that I would and could take whatever he dished out to me, as long as my children were cared for. I didn't want my kids to grow up with a single mom with 3 kids, struggling as a member of " the new poor ", as single mothers were known as. You see, I put him through Medical School, and worked for the next 5 years throughout his Internship and Residency " supporting Us ". I thought that we had decided to have a baby, but in the only therapy session we went to together, he revealed an entirely different story by telling the therapist " that she never liked my job, but when we found out she was pregnant, we decided to stay together. " Holy shit, I was floored! I was under such a delusion of what I thought about our marriage and children compared to his idea. Something like he was then obligated to stay. Long story short, when the kids were now young adults in their 20's and early 30, I finally found the guts and the resolve to file for divorce. At least now his crap ( not emotionally of course) would only effect me, and boy, he did not disappoint. As you said of yours, financially I was totally cut off. Boom. It's sad, that at then 63 years old and making $8/hr at a part-time job and being forced to close my business, which depended slightly on him for aid, that thankfully my Dad could help me with lawyers fees,food for me and the breeding stock of horses I had, electricity etc.. he didn't want to see me lose everything I had worked so hard to achieve. The divorce was the cruelest, worst thing that I had ever gone through in my life. I had some really tough times in my life too. I got Polio at 9 months, had 15 orthopedic surgeries and learned to walk and then eventually played tennis and competed horses. I had excelled in school, despite being AD/HD. Back then they just called you hyper and " you just need to settle down and focus on your own task ". And so much more that no one really cares about. The divorce was 4 + horrible years of County and then State Supreme court case battles that cost each a fortune. Luckily for me, he had been so outrageous, cruel and lied so much, that the judges found in my favor and gave me the farm. His mother, my soon to be ex mother-in-law , even sued me for the $42,000 dollars her son owed her! Yep,I bet that was a first! Anyway, it has been 10 years since the divorce, he has since passed 6 months after it was final, and I am still living with the aftermath of my whole life being, other than my children, wasted with and damaged by this one person who originally I had loved deeply and thought that he loved me. It was all a lie ,and at times I am angry with myself for being " so stupid " for failing into his game. I will never have a meaningful relationship with another man. I don't trust my judgement. And since I made such a horrific choice to begin with, I don't want to take the chance of another one. Mostly I am happy being alone with no real conflicts in my life. Yes, I get lonely and wish that I had someone who cared for and about me, but it's not worth the risk. It's sad, but the damage that these people do is very deep and lifelong. Maybe I would be better off if I had left the marriage back then. But I will never know and " it is what it is ".

This message is to Jinx King….thanks for your wonderful sharing message. As we go through our life from babyhood to old age so many unexpected happenings take place. Some of them are from our own lack of knowledge, trust in the wrong people, no one to confide in with confidence.. I alwaystold parents when they called,”everything was fine😢”. I was ashamed, I was to.told I was dumb,etc. etc. non of it was true. Luckily my children are kind and loving to me. None of them know the whole story. Life is a journey that is almost beyond description. Thank you again for your sharing, it helps to know we are not alone🥰

@@maryanndolan6508 the church must know about narsism and what to do about it ....but never mind , say the Holy Rosary , Our Lady will be there to help you always , narsists are demon possessed!

My narc did 2 years of a psychology degree and they threw him out! Because he kept trying to coerce people to think like him! 😂 To this day he says he left because the teachers were inept and he considers he would make the best psychologist. Yeah, if it was all about the patient being lectured to and not listened to! 😂

My narc ex is getting his PhD in philosophy :( I'm an empath in psychology... we both wrote poetry and cared about the environment. All makes sense now.

I am so sorry. I hope you got some counseling, and that you dont go near him anymore.

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Please get away from him.

I was with one for fifteen yrs. I have been gone from him many yrs yet almost every time I leave my house he breaks in and destoys veverything i

He lets off bug bombs in my house with my animals inside he fucks up every thing I own shaves my clothes n blankets with a razor things a normal person would never think of doing I had to get a storage to put some things in so they arnt totally destroyed he even got in with a security system he used to choke me unconscious vertu dangerous he's working on destroying my vehicle now my family doesnt believe me either I will never have peace of mind as. Long as I livr close enough for him to stop by. He's a demons through n through

BOBBIE BROOKS,You look stunning 🌹🌷🌷,you don't need a narc 😈 in your life!!

A narcopath isn't just born, they are created. Often by what are considered socially acceptable upstanding but fanatical parents. Religion or military for example.

I developed my working definition of evil from my grandmother. "seeks to usurp the agency of another to feed their own ego, and self-aggrandizement."

@@dcg31free you stated that so well. I have so many memories of walking into a room and feeling an intense dislike from people for no apparent reason. Now I’m realizing it was a smear campaign.

I would be careful about the distinction between broken and evil. I would hope most are broken rather than evil though not saying evil dosen't exist by no means. That said I believe, though not a psychologist, that narcissism and possibly psychopathy stems from a deep emotional scar from childhood and possibly the way to go about treating the issue albeit no doubt a painful, lengthy and arduous task!

@Gordon Fornow I avoid the entire state of Vermont. I still don't know all the lies that were told about me, but at this point i do not want to know. But being geographically present where sudden, horrendous, inexplicable abuse occurred, that I will not do. There is no way to ever correct their misperceptions. I was 'slimed'. They really are soul killers.

Same thing with my mother

Bless 💜💚💙 xxx

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Suddenly all people in the comment section had a psychopathic relative in their life.

@@evilangel1457 I don't think it's that uncommon.

Narcissists are common , Sociopaths are uncommon But Psychopaths are rare .

He will. Psalm 120 & 121.

I think a more correct term to "self-love" is really "self-admiration".

@@morningsong8077 Amen

Millions are raised by them.

I do wonder for some time now if my husband is not in the psychopathic range as well. For years I thought he is a covert narc but the extent he will go to take revenge and punish me it is unbelievable. He is extremely, extremely cunning. I see absolutely no remorse or shame for his behavior,0. He do throw people away literally like old socks and the vengeance that lies in him scare me really. But...for the outside, he have such a calm I cant even explain. And I know that when he is more calm,he is up to something and this scares me so much...