That is the biggest problem. I got the M1 because of the perf but majority of my uses like light gaming did not work on Mac and this will be a problem in Windows for ARM.

Skeptical.... Indeed

@@OrjonZ the problem ALWAYS WAS THE SOFTWARE... in windows the left ARM will do 100 FPS and the Right ARM another 100 FPS (this in the low cheap models)

software support comes with time they have a year to prepare + cant you run it in compatability mode like what apple did with 80% of the apps

Windows has been working with Qualcomm for years. It is survival for windows. X86 doesn’t have a future. Everything is going ARM.

probably not going to happen, it's ARM based, and most CAD software/games run terribly or don't even run on ARM processors. It's why no one uses Mac's for CAD.

@@samirravat yep , a MacBook Air would be wonderful, if only it could run CAD software on windows.

@@samirravat It runs terribly right now. Nothing says it will continue to in the future.

majority of the benchmarks shown are 100% true. I mean the Cinebench benchmark really shows the true speed of those cores, both single and multithread. So, the real-world performance would be around 5% higher or lower. The major factor affecting performance would be the software itself, in this case it's windows for ARM. That will take some time.

Indeed. The benchmarks only claim the performance at a specific power level, which of course means better efficiency but when the competitor chips are allowed extra power, the difference is perhaps significantly less if not negative

@@divanshu5039 Microsoft has been trying to make Windows on ARM acceptable for nearly 10 years now. It's still a pile of rubbish that has maybe 10 native apps. Everything else runs like literal shit

Perfect timing too because we’re getting a DCS-like game on Android called Gunship IV.

this will come on windows tablets like the surface pro series I would assume

OS and software will hold it back

Apple can run resident evil with just A series chip

​@@fazril7972and? It's just a most recent thing , don't act like it could do it like forever

It says it beats an M2 (not saying it will) and all of their other CPUS (which are extremely expensive), no way in hell this is going on a cheap laptop.

@@ZachAR3 I guess this is going to decently priced video editing laptops like for around 600-800$ because he said it's not made for gaming so I won't expect anything higher than 1000$

and including the fact that it used the same amount of power as i7 1360p or something and got like 2x more performance (maybe it was 50% i dont remember) so its definitely gonna be expensive and not cheap@@ZachAR3

I bet it will have fast Linux adoption.

​​@@maricthehedgehog bro, not made for gaming doesn't mean it can't cost more than a 1000 bucks lmao Ever heard of workstations?

Yeah.. making it worse and more expensive

Also in the gaming handheld space this could be a game changer. If they make a lower end chip for the next Steam Deck or other distributors I'm gonna be balling.

They have numbers in percents, its enough

@@yrmuq No, it's not. Percent of what compared to what, exactly? A random floating line that is "20% more" than another random floating line that itself has no data connected to it because they're both floating in empty space means _LITERALLY_ nothing. Nevermind the fact everyone by now knows they artificially fudge any tests they do to get numbers that aren't _actually_ achievable in real-case use. They're lying to your face, and you're willing to accept it. I'm honestly not sure which is worse these days - the fact they openly lie, provide absolutely meaningless and useless "data" to trick people into buying their stuff, or the fact people like yourself are more than willing to accept such shady business practises.

people have become stupid enough to be fooled by anything.

This is the business now… It’s called marketing and every company in the world does it. You’ll never get the real numbers until someone puts it through a proper test. There are many reasons why they do this and unfortunately it seems we are constantly scammed for real information.

i'm getting a feeling ARM CPU's will eventually take over the laptop market and then jump to desktops. i give it 3-5 years for laptop takeover and 6-8 years to see desktops have them

Box86 is already a thing. But it's not very well integrated into the rest of Proton. Besides that, I would not be surprised if Linux's ARM experience would be significantly better than Windows on ARM. Windows on ARM is probably one of the worst computing experiences I've had in recent years. It feels like you're permanently stuck in a VM without GPU acceleration for 95% of applications.

yes, windows on arm imfact is terrible. Didn't know about box 86 tho. Gonna have to look into that. Ty

@@oricat101 No worries mate :)

​@@roccociccone597 From what I've seen Windows 11 experience on newer chips is much better than it used to be, because the OS is now fully native to ARM and translation layer has improved a lot, but it sucked on older devices with Windows 10. What device did you use?

@@TheTytan007 It was a Lenovo with the previous flagship Qualcom chip in it. Now Windows 11 is a horrendous UX. Bloatware everywhere and more telemetry than Chinese Spyware. But apart from that, I regularly ran into applications that don't have native ARM builds. Slack's desktop app is horrible on ARM since it's not native and the translation layer still is dog shit compared to Rosetta2. Unless you only use Edge and stick to MS word a Windows on ARM device is literally useless.

Qualcomm offered devices for reviewers to benchmark. Ofcause they only presented a limited amount of Benchmarks, probably only the ones in their favour, but I'm Geekbench and other Benchmarks third party Reviewers were able to confirm that these outperform the M2 Air in most Benchmarked results, probably being landing between M2 Air and M3 air. If you consider it's cherry picked, I would claim it's very likely it comes close to the M2 or even bypasses it slightly. I think the elephant in the room is the price, availability, Software Support and low wattage power consumption. The performance under load will likely be very good, in native applications

Well it came,(im writing this comment after apple event) and in order to make their CPU look good Apple kept comparing it with m1, while this one from snapdragon is beating m2 so there you have it.

They do have something similar already

Qualcomm has demoed several games running natively on their chip but that might not even matter since in these days it seems that the internet browser you choose matters more than the OS itself

Arm processors cant run games...

It's not gonna run x86 games anytime soon

The issue is still the OS. Windows with ARM sucks ass, there is no proper compatibility layer like Rosetta... even with the dozen or so manufacturers promising to release laptops with this SOC, people won't buy them over a Macbook because there is no one to force devs to make their programs available for ARM on Windows. I hope I am proven wrong, but I just don't see this taking off no matter how good the chip is.

​@@SnowTheKitsunePardon?

@@Lumilicious That's the thing they can hype this up all day long but unlike Apple I doubt they'll back it up with anything significant. We'd all like to be wrong but I doubt we will be.

x86 emulation exists

Even without that, they're talking about X% more performance at the same power draw, which essentially means power efficiency, not actual raw performance. I suspect this will land in the i3-i5 range as far as actual performance goes, which is great if you're looking for something at that level of performance but would like some extra battery life (and where compatibility doesn't wreck your use case 😅). But that's if it hits that level of performance at a reasonable price.

It won't be overpriced like Apple I believe

​@@SAMK1Apple isn't really overpriced unless you are a poor 😊

@@POVwithRC says an Apple fan boy

They are reasonably far, Windows 11 should be able to run X86 and X64 software on ARM. Native ARM is of course faster.

@Henk717 I am sticking to a mac