The Fate of the Ringwraiths: What Happened to the Nazgûl after the Witch King Fell in Battle?

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Realms Unravelled

Realms Unravelled

4 місяці тому

Dive deep into the shadowy realms of Middle-earth with our latest exploration: "The Fate of the Ringwraiths: What Happened to the Nazgûl after the Witch King Fell in Battle?"
Let me be your guide through the J.R.R. Tolkien's universe, as we unravel the aftermath of the epic Battle of the Pelennor Fields. Beyond the climactic moment when the Witch-King met his fate, what transpired with the remaining Nazgûl?
Be sure to join the discussion in the comments as I always enjoy hearing your opinions and theories. Just be careful not to mention anything about Balrogs having wings otherwise you may be in for some trouble with some other viewers!
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@RealmsUnravelled
@RealmsUnravelled 4 місяці тому
Hello all! I have received a number of comments stating that, as the Nazgul were once living men, they would have passed to the Halls of Mandos for judgement and not into The Void. The following is an excerpt from the Return of the King: ‘You cannot enter here,’ said Gandalf, and the huge shadow halted. ‘Go back to the abyss prepared for you! Go back! Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your Master. Go!’ This piece of dialogue led me to the conclusion in this video. I now realise that I should have included this in the video but as this was only my 2nd upload I am still learning! Thanks for all of your comments, I am already putting a lot of constructive criticism to good use in the future videos that I am currently working on!
@MOColumbia
@MOColumbia 3 місяці тому
"They crackled, withered and went out" their souls/spirits were released from the fire that had sustained their manifested form, and they passed to judgement, and they went where the souls/spirits of men go according to their judgment. What Gandalf referred to was the expected judgement of the souls/spirits of men whom covet power and whose lust for power wholly corrupted them. To an Abyss, a Nothingness, you could say unmade.
@Mr.LaughingDuck
@Mr.LaughingDuck 3 місяці тому
This guy is a total fake and a joke. As noted before, Tolkien clearly states without ambiguity that they got caught up Mt. Doom's explosions and burnt up into nothingness. Nothing about how they felt or even their individual names. This video is basically one pulled out of his ass.
@theeffete3396
@theeffete3396 3 місяці тому
The caveat here is that the Balrog is a Maia. It's erroneous to attribute Gandalf's speech as also applying to Men (however corrupted they may have become). Additionally, the "Master" being referred to here is more than likely Morgoth, as the Balrog never served Sauron. There is also some ambiguity about what is meant by "the nothingness that awaits," since Morgoth had already been cast through the Door of Night; he's not awaiting that fate. It's possible that Gandalf is referring to the aftermath of Dagor Dagorath (The Battle to end all Battles), where a Second Song would be made and Arda completely reformed, without Melkor and his minions. Also, it's worth examining Tolkien's own beliefs. He sincerely believed that no being was beyond redemption, and even struggled with the notion that orcs were irreparably evil. It's why he never actually settled on an origin story for them, going from corrupted elves to corrupted Men, to "uplifted" beasts. It was entirely an editorial decision for Christopher to use the elf-origin in the Silmarilion since that was the most completed work (though not the latest chronologically). Point being, the Nazgul were unquestionably Men, and thus undoubtedly not beyond redemption in Tolkien's eyes. They would almost surely be given a chance to repent in the halls of Mandos before getting wisked away to wherever the féa of Men go.
@Stormbringer2012
@Stormbringer2012 3 місяці тому
What would happen if a ring wraith fought one those ghosts in the Return of the King?
@MOColumbia
@MOColumbia 3 місяці тому
@@Stormbringer2012 Interesting question. The Nazgul were virtually the same thing, spirits/ghosts trapped in this world whose mortal bodies had perished long ago. the only real difference is that the Nazgul were 9 kings who possessed the Nine rings of men. But it is understood that Aragorn did not take the Army of the Dead to Mordor because of possible corruption of the dead by Sauron, i.e. he may have been able to turn them against the forces of Gondor.
@tedetienne7639
@tedetienne7639 3 місяці тому
Tolkien spoke of the gift of death given to men. I think no one ever saw that gift so inviting and releasing as the Nazgul did.
@brissygirl4997
@brissygirl4997 3 місяці тому
I think the undead men that worked with Aragorn against the Corsairs might have felt relief and pretty free once they were released from finally fulfilling the oath they'd sworn to Isildur.
@andrewwilliams2353
@andrewwilliams2353 4 місяці тому
Tolkien specifically states that, caught up in the ruin of Orodruin, the Nazgul "crackled, withered and went out" like lights ! Where does a candle flame go when it is blown out ? Well that's where the Nazgul went !
@Shauma_llama
@Shauma_llama 4 місяці тому
That's what I thought, they went down in flames when the mountain blew up.
@ReffaDay
@ReffaDay 4 місяці тому
I'm by no means knowledgeable in this lore, but if the candle was lit in the darkness then into the darkness it will return waiting to be lit again.
@jacobfreeman5444
@jacobfreeman5444 4 місяці тому
They went to the same fate as their master. But unlike him they are unlikely to return. Why spend power on failed servants?
@Valdagast
@Valdagast 4 місяці тому
They went to the halls of Mandos for further travel outside the circles of the World. We don't know what happens to men after their death.
@theeffete3396
@theeffete3396 4 місяці тому
@jacobfreeman5444 No, they did not share Sauron's fate. Sauron was doomed to wander the world, a spirit of malice and hate, but utterly powerless. The Nazgul were men, kept undead by the power of the rings. When the rings failed, the Nazgul finally died and went where all men go when they they die, which only Eru Iluvatar knows for certain.
@michaelmcleary8566
@michaelmcleary8566 4 місяці тому
They bummed around for a few millennia then got hired by Warner Bros to act as the Dementors in Harry Potter!
@r7diego
@r7diego 3 місяці тому
🤣😂🤣
@boeingnz
@boeingnz 3 місяці тому
They started Nascar racing.
@colindunnigan8621
@colindunnigan8621 3 місяці тому
Good for them! Good work is so hard to get these days.
@matikramer9648
@matikramer9648 3 місяці тому
🤣
@TheInvincibleGuch
@TheInvincibleGuch 2 місяці тому
"It's a living..."
@ejd53
@ejd53 4 місяці тому
"They crackled, withered and went out". I think that pretty much says it all.
@jakening6144
@jakening6144 3 місяці тому
Could cut 8 minutes off the video with that.
@sir_cahstic3637
@sir_cahstic3637 3 місяці тому
I believe you dropped this, King 💍
@franciscopena5808
@franciscopena5808 3 місяці тому
You got me thinking. If the Valar once forgave Sauron for his alliance with Melkor, why not also extend the mercy to the ringwraiths, whose transgressions where minor compared to Sauron's. Also considering that Sauron's allegiance to Melkor was willing, but the Nazgul were decieved and bound unwillingly to Sauron.Very nice channel BTW.
@HolyNickTheHobbit
@HolyNickTheHobbit 18 днів тому
I remember them being willing to forgive him but he still had to serve judgement for his crimes and then sauron decided that since he would have to be punished for his crimes, similar to how melkor was the first time, he didn't want this and he ran away
@alexstewart9747
@alexstewart9747 2 місяці тому
I think Tolkien left an air of mystery about the Nazgûl to fire the imagination in readers. Reading The Fall of Gondolin left me in awe of his writing.
@henrya3530
@henrya3530 4 місяці тому
I heard one of them opened a successful chain of ethnic fast food outlets for orcs. Surprisingly popular with rich human and elf kids who are 'slumming it' while backpacking in Mordor during their gap year.
@NickysVibe
@NickysVibe 3 місяці тому
This is fantastic. Not just your theory, but the eloquence with which you expressed it. Beautiful writing and orating. Thank you.
@unOrigiNik
@unOrigiNik 3 місяці тому
I'm 50/50 on whether this is high quality AI generated content, or just a well spoken gentleman
@Paisly_
@Paisly_ 2 місяці тому
@@unOrigiNikIts AI as are the Images
@michaelfisher7170
@michaelfisher7170 4 місяці тому
They were unnaturally bound to the world through the Ring's power...but they were men. When the ring went into the fire that power ended..they were freed from it and would have done as any other human..their spirits would have sought the halls of Mandos and from there would have passed beyond the circles of the world. What happened then?
@RealmsUnravelled
@RealmsUnravelled 4 місяці тому
Thank you for your comment! Your point of view is the logical conclusion for those well versed in LOTR lore however, the following quote from the Return of the King is the reason I believe that the Ringwraiths would be sent to the void and not to the halls of Mandos: “You can not enter here,” said Gandalf, and the huge shadow halted. “Go back to the abyss prepared for you! Go back! Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your Master. Go!” I believe this was Gandalf telling the Witch King that he would not be granted the gift of men upon his demise. This could have course been a clever tactic utilised by Gandalf in order to demoralise the Witch King but I found it convincing enough to base this video around the wraiths being sent into the expanse of the void. Thanks again for contributing to this fascinating discussion!
@therealfakeAlphabet
@therealfakeAlphabet 4 місяці тому
@@RealmsUnravelled in their present forms yes, but once released from the thrall of Sauron, I think their souls would pass into the halls of Mandos for judgement. Tolkien did not seem like someone who thought that people were irredeemably evil with no chance of salvation.
@brucetucker4847
@brucetucker4847 4 місяці тому
@@RealmsUnravelled I think the abyss prepared for them was Hell. Neither Morgoth nor Sauron could take the Gift of Men from them (only put it off), but they are still subject to judgment when they leave the world.
@jacobfreeman5444
@jacobfreeman5444 4 місяці тому
Their fates were tied to Sauron. So I can only imagine they fell into the wraith realm with him. Seems the gift of man was not denied them but even so they could not survive the destruction of the one ring. Too much of what they were was taken by its power. The only mercy they could recieve was to not haunt the world as a powerless shade like their former master unto the end of the world.
@stefaniebraun3319
@stefaniebraun3319 4 місяці тому
​@@RealmsUnravelledChanging the final destination of the Ringwraiths would open a way for Sauron (or Melkor) to nullify the gift of men, but we are specifically told by Tolkien, that they could not do that. Maybe it was the nothingness of the void, as long, as they were bound to Middle Earth due to the ring, and true death afterwards.
@eternalnighthorrorstories2297
@eternalnighthorrorstories2297 4 місяці тому
I sense that your channel will be big pretty fast. Amazing content so far, and very well illustrated! I'll be coming back for more
@JJ180
@JJ180 4 місяці тому
Its AI you fool
@carlbernard7615
@carlbernard7615 3 місяці тому
For once I have to praise the algorithm for bringing me here. Excellent videos and presentation, instant sub here.
@KevDaly
@KevDaly 4 місяці тому
It doesn't seem all that mysterious if you read the Return of the King: "And into the heart of the storm, with a cry that pierced all other sounds, tearing the clouds asunder, the Nazgûl came, shooting like flaming bolts, as caught in the fiery ruin of hill and sky they crackled, withered, and went out." I don't think they had a lot of time for reflection before going to the fate prepared for them.
@jimmyboy131
@jimmyboy131 4 місяці тому
So in other words, they finally died, and left this world.
@theeffete3396
@theeffete3396 4 місяці тому
Well, they'll have plenty of time for reflection as they await judgment in the Halls of Mandos, before finally being claimed by Eru Iluvatar.
@surferbeto
@surferbeto 4 місяці тому
I am.surprised that the author of this video did not make any reference at all to what is written in Canon about what happens to the Nazgul. Not sure where he got the specific info he presents- like the original names of wraiths other than the Witch King. Maybe from some other apocryphal Tolkien texts? But this would have been a pretty short video if he had simply referenced the passage you quoted from the end of Book 6, Chapter 3 (Mount Doom) in Return Of The King. They "crackled, withered and went out." After reading that I had no further questions.
@ArawnOfAnnwn
@ArawnOfAnnwn 3 місяці тому
@@jimmyboy131 Left for where is the question. They were men, and that would mean they should be bound for the Hall of Mandos. There is another place they could go - that of the Void - that this video is suggesting they went to. It isn't clear which of those they went to.
@gojewla
@gojewla 3 місяці тому
Yes. I don’t know where all these fan theories came from. Just read the book!
@nicholasmaude6906
@nicholasmaude6906 4 місяці тому
I really wish that Tolkien had gone into detail about the Ringwraiths, who they were before they got their rings, their changes after receiving their rings and afterwards. Not all of the men who received their rings were good either.
@matthewfors114
@matthewfors114 4 місяці тому
it adds to the mystique though, makes them scarier that we can only imagine who they were
@TorianTammas
@TorianTammas 3 місяці тому
​@@matthewfors114 After being unable to find the ring as they were 5 meter away and thrn beaten by Hobbits and a single man and thrn beaten again by water. They are as scary as toast.
@umitencho
@umitencho 3 місяці тому
There are hints that there are notes left behind by Tolkien, that his son Christopher, that put to a book. The biggest hint being the description of Morgoth's Ring and how he bound himself to middle earth. There could be manuscripts complete or incomplete about the ring wraith's history that are still locked away. I think the mystique and the speculation of who they were is what keeps these papers from ever being released if they exist.
@matthewfors114
@matthewfors114 3 місяці тому
@@TorianTammas it wasn't just any man, it was Aragorn. You know, a man who has already lived close to 100 years and is smarter, stronger ,faster and more skilled with a sword than any living man at that time and also used the fire to get rid of them. The Ringwraiths primary weapon is that they put fear into people, they are usually commanders and have orcs do their dirty work. I'm sorry if the book is a little to detailed and not super simple and just making every bad guy over powered and comically defeated illogically
@matthewfors114
@matthewfors114 3 місяці тому
@@TorianTammas a giant flood going at the speed of a freight train isnt supposed to dismount them? it also didnt kill them, thta is pretty scary. if i encountered creatures that cant be killed by a racing flash flood i would be terrified. Do you think you would survive a flash flood if you were standing in a riverbed?
@robertblackmore703
@robertblackmore703 3 місяці тому
You’ve got a great voice for narration. Thank you.
@goshlike76
@goshlike76 4 місяці тому
What a phenomenal presentation. I dare say that this is quite an underrated video, if not one of the most underrated videos regarding Tolkien's work. From the illustrations to the eloquent presentation and the comprehensive content, I enjoyed every single bit of it. An absolute masterpiece overall.
@theeffete3396
@theeffete3396 4 місяці тому
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 4 місяці тому
It's 12 days old with almost 100k views, hardly underrated lol
@Shermmy
@Shermmy 4 місяці тому
Although I found the content interesting, it was also unnecessarily repetitive.
@NickysVibe
@NickysVibe 3 місяці тому
I couldn't agree more. Really great stuff.
@pierrebourgaud7799
@pierrebourgaud7799 3 місяці тому
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@tinag7971
@tinag7971 3 місяці тому
Another great video! And again such beautiful artwork! The details in these pictures are such a fantastic talent!
@AndyAdventuring
@AndyAdventuring 4 місяці тому
Sauron still exists, permanently weakened, blown to the east by Iluvatar to wander powerless as a shadow with no ability to affect the world. I'd like to think the Nazgul, now released from Sauron's grasp, continued to hunt, but this time they hunted their former master.
@theeffete3396
@theeffete3396 4 місяці тому
The Nazgul's unlife was tied to the rings. When the One was destroyed, ALL the rings lost their power. With nothing left to bind theor spirits to the world, it's very likely they died and went to the Halls of Mandos to await judgment.
@trjngd
@trjngd 4 місяці тому
The rings didnt lose all of their power I think it was described as the other rings of power elf human and dwarf all last 98% of their power that they once had most of which was the dominating power they once had
@YourOldUncleNoongah
@YourOldUncleNoongah 4 місяці тому
Excellent video, questions, theories. I have subscribed! Brilliant!
@dimitris470
@dimitris470 4 місяці тому
It's hard to imagine such tormented, ruthless and probably in some ways dependent and addicted beings feeling joy in the redemptive way you are describing. Maybe perhaps they felt some sense of relief from the release of Sauron's oppressive influence
@hebercluff1665
@hebercluff1665 4 місяці тому
Even though it's doubtful they actually chose redemption, it was very in character for the Valar to at least offer their enemies the chance to turn themselves in and earn redemption. I wouldn't put it past them to offer this chance to the Nazgul.
@stefaniebraun3319
@stefaniebraun3319 4 місяці тому
​@@hebercluff1665There was nothing to offer for the Valar. The nine were once men, bound by being men and would still receive the gift of men. The Valar have no Power over their fate. They would die and their souls would go to the unknown place, dead humans go to in Tolkiens World. They would just be a few thousand years late.
@sylvanaire
@sylvanaire 4 місяці тому
The illustrations are amazing, kudos to whoever generated them! I also doubt that any redemption was sought or received. If Saruman’s spirit was wafted away by a West wind, the Ring Wraiths stand little chance of forgiveness. Being so completely dependant on Sauron’s will for every action, it makes sense to me that they dissipated into nothingness just as he did.
@Krfification101
@Krfification101 4 місяці тому
But Saruman's spirit was that of a Maia, not of a man. Mankind are under the dominion of Eru Illuvatar, and once Sauron's chains were broken, I could easily see him claiming these long lost spirits as his own once again. Granted, everything is under the dominion of Eru, and we only have the examples of Sauron, Saruman, and Gandalf for what happens to Maiar who "die." Gandalf, who was valiant in his mission, was given greater discretion in the use of his own powers and sent back as a reward for his faithfulness, to finish his work. Saruman, who actively rejected his mission was likewise rejected by Eru, or so it seems. And Sauron tied so much of his own spirit into the physical integrity of the Ring that it was destroyed when the Ring was.
@sylvanaire
@sylvanaire 4 місяці тому
Thank you Krfification101. I had forgotten to weigh in the balance that the wraiths were once men.
@blasterofmuppets4754
@blasterofmuppets4754 4 місяці тому
well, there's probably quite the big change that the illustrator wasn't a person.
@kevinclement1533
@kevinclement1533 2 місяці тому
But didn't Saruman turn evil out of his own free will? The 9 kings who end up as ringwraiths were basically enslaved against their own will.
@JS-mh9uu
@JS-mh9uu 4 місяці тому
Once the One ring was destroyed the other rings became little more than decorations. So the rings power that was keeping the wraiths corporeal ended immediately. The wraiths would have faded away rapidly after that going on to the after life in short order.
@mcjohngd3583
@mcjohngd3583 4 місяці тому
Very well done and interesting, keep up the good work!
@RealmsUnravelled
@RealmsUnravelled 4 місяці тому
Thank you for your encouraging words! Your support means a lot
@petergianakopoulos4926
@petergianakopoulos4926 29 днів тому
Send him money and he will.
@nathanbennett9999
@nathanbennett9999 4 місяці тому
That was a surprisingly positive view of their end.
@boogieondown5824
@boogieondown5824 3 місяці тому
They would have been given the gift of men as promised. They desired power and likely acted unscrupulously, but their complete turn to evil was designed by Sauron. Like a master that beats his dogs into killers, they had no other option, they know of no other choice to survive. Sauron who repented briefly, once freed of Morgoth, yet then went back to serving evil is the one that faces the final destruction. The wraiths had no option to repent once tricked into addiction by Sauron.
@savage1370
@savage1370 4 місяці тому
Wouldnt the oldest living Elves have know who they where as human kings?
@embatbr
@embatbr 8 днів тому
Maybe. But it is not a globalized world. You, as an immortal, could be in Middle Earth for centuries without meeting others from your kind or know about the existence of some kingdom.
@colindunnigan8621
@colindunnigan8621 3 місяці тому
Thank you for pointing out that the Nazgul may have been tempted by Sauron through a desire to do good.
@roboslug7582
@roboslug7582 3 місяці тому
From what I've heard, one of the Nazgul became an Uber driver and another one opened a small bakery in the East Village. I've tried the bakery. They make really good croissants.
@elm7469
@elm7469 3 місяці тому
Excellent story!!
@iambiggus
@iambiggus 2 місяці тому
Love the way the 'history' is delivered. Cheers ❤
@KazgarothUsher
@KazgarothUsher 4 місяці тому
really enjoyed this :)
@user-ki9ly1uy1w
@user-ki9ly1uy1w 4 місяці тому
Beautifully done. Great voice ! Congratulations.
@neilh9442
@neilh9442 2 місяці тому
Art & presentation are brilliant!
@diegogamba7825
@diegogamba7825 4 місяці тому
Loved the video, great work! Some images are increadible, could you please share the credits?
@MrMyers758
@MrMyers758 4 місяці тому
Script: AI Narration: AI Art: AI (or just stolen content)
@jamesrendell7355
@jamesrendell7355 4 місяці тому
@@MrMyers758 Really excellent designs. I'd love to know which AI tools you use for this please. I might have a go myself.
@ficialintelligence1869
@ficialintelligence1869 3 місяці тому
Stunningly beautiful artwork.
@mythatsabigone2500
@mythatsabigone2500 4 місяці тому
Awesome video dude 😎 subbed
@shep9231
@shep9231 Місяць тому
In their lives, their deeds were legendary. In my life, they were nothing more then my enemies. But now that they have gone. I find I pity them. They were once great kings of men.
@tscarb
@tscarb 4 місяці тому
Thank you! I enjoyed this
@bobsbigboy_
@bobsbigboy_ 4 місяці тому
Amazing video. Beautiful images, very nice to listen to narration. Subbed
@petergianakopoulos4926
@petergianakopoulos4926 29 днів тому
Wow you pressed a button!
@bobsbigboy_
@bobsbigboy_ 29 днів тому
@@petergianakopoulos4926i hope to never be as miserable as you.
@markp6062
@markp6062 4 місяці тому
I had a similar thought. With the power that kept them 'alive' and enslaved removed, There would be a sense of relief/release and then... the end and on to whatever eternity awaits all men.
@bcfb21
@bcfb21 4 місяці тому
I know it isn’t canon. But I love the ending that talion eventually got. From man to wraith to Nazgûl. Finally getting peace in the end.
@nicholasmaude6906
@nicholasmaude6906 4 місяці тому
Since the Ringwraiths Fea's were bound to the Ruling Ring once it was destroyed along with their bodies (Hroa) their fears would gone to the Halls of Mandos for a brief stay before on to wherever a fea of a man went to.
@Sam_Smith1987
@Sam_Smith1987 2 місяці тому
Great stuff ❤
@augustinep6193
@augustinep6193 29 днів тому
Good video. Thanks.
@jamesbee3087
@jamesbee3087 3 місяці тому
When Sauron was at his weakest, therefore, the Nazgûl became inactive, but when Sauron's power began to gather again, the Nazgûl rise with him. Naturally, this means that after the One Ring is finally destroyed by Frodo and Sam, the Nazgûl are no more. There is nothing to bind their wraith-like souls to the mortal realm - the magic is broken.
@fjccommish
@fjccommish 2 місяці тому
So glad you do this without bad background music. It ruins so many videos.
@d5kenn
@d5kenn 4 місяці тому
At 4:20 - that's a lot of fingers!
@grillodofus
@grillodofus 3 місяці тому
When Meriadoc and Eowyn slays the Witch King, i distintively remember that is writen "And no more was he seen in that age of the world" i think is implied that HE indeed returned at one point.
@matthewking1980
@matthewking1980 3 місяці тому
Your voice is fantastic. Very soothing.
@bronwynsheerin627
@bronwynsheerin627 24 дні тому
A cool video, thanks
@Axgoodofdunemaul
@Axgoodofdunemaul 3 місяці тому
Well done!
@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989
@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989 3 місяці тому
My favourite new LOTR channel, bravo sir.
@pupfish1966
@pupfish1966 3 місяці тому
The power that sustained them was gone, thus they just passed away just like their master.
@jamesjacobs4209
@jamesjacobs4209 4 місяці тому
Your description of their fate is a symphony of words! It flowed like the river Anduin.
@awendigowithinternetaccess4400
@awendigowithinternetaccess4400 4 місяці тому
Honestly, I hope their end is as you described. That is the best one can hope for those poor men. Merry Christmas and lots of love for everyone. ❤
@RiMajol8081
@RiMajol8081 19 днів тому
Somebody in the near future may be able to make this become like the Conjuring Universe. I'll watch for sure.
@realneighborhoodP
@realneighborhoodP 4 місяці тому
This was a wonderfully made video.
@petergianakopoulos4926
@petergianakopoulos4926 29 днів тому
Yw
@mikepette4422
@mikepette4422 3 місяці тому
you do a great job.
@user-uu1bu3vk9n
@user-uu1bu3vk9n 3 місяці тому
Thank you for sharing this information about this Movie's back ground though I seen all the Movie's. Lord of The Rings and The Hobbit. I Dig It 🤙🌋🏖️
@cernunnos100
@cernunnos100 4 місяці тому
Well written. Good sound.
@catrandy7957
@catrandy7957 4 місяці тому
What happened to the Ringwraiths was sad. I saw one just the other day - "would you like fries with that burger?"
@Fluffy_Penguin727
@Fluffy_Penguin727 3 місяці тому
Yes, please. With extra bacon.
@jacksonbrooks404
@jacksonbrooks404 2 місяці тому
I like how you talk, scholar
@autobotjazz1972
@autobotjazz1972 4 місяці тому
Your Thoughts on the fate of the Ringwraiths line up with what i have considered. They were once mortal men but i feel what was left of them after being freed from the yoke of the One Ring, would have been judged to be beyond redemption and thus at least sent to some place, perhaps the void to spend eternity far from the souls of those they once tormented.
@davidtatro7457
@davidtatro7457 4 місяці тому
The remaining Nazgul were all flying for Mount Doom as fast they could on their winged steeds. At the moment the ring was destroyed, they all burst into flame and were consumed in midair. I'm not sure where all of this poetry about them standing around having all these emotional epiphanies comes from, but it doesn't come from Tolkien.
@dayzeofclarity
@dayzeofclarity 3 місяці тому
Excellent video... and speaking voice
@Mysterytour7
@Mysterytour7 3 місяці тому
The story in the second half is really rather sweet.
@jonathonfrazier6622
@jonathonfrazier6622 4 місяці тому
With the Ring gone and a good blast from Orodruin, they finally bit the dust.
@teashea1
@teashea1 3 місяці тому
very well done
@CT-pi2gl
@CT-pi2gl 4 місяці тому
Sorry but this is way off, at least as regards to the fan theories. Return of the King text clearly states right after the Ring's destruction, "... tearing the clouds asunder the Nazgûl came, shooting like flaming bolts, as caught in the fiery ruin of hill and sky they crackled, withered, and went out." Crackled and went out evokes the image of a candle flame sputtering out at the end of its fuel. Withered can also evoke rapid shriveling and disintegration, perhaps like the Indiana Jones guy when he drinks the wrong chalice. As a young reader of the books, the final complete destruction of these Riders felt like an immense relief and vindication, after they had cast a terrifying pall over the whole story, always hunting, from whom the characters were never safe. Additionally, on the slopes of the Mountain Gollum predicts, probably truly, that when the Ring is destroyed he will perish into dust. The Nazgûl most likely suffered a similar though perhaps more dramatic fate.
@CedarCoveTigerPark
@CedarCoveTigerPark 3 місяці тому
Topic question: what would Sauron (or Morgoth) have DONE with middle earth? What would either of their victories have looked like to Middle Earth and to what purpose would they drive it?
@vtmuseum
@vtmuseum 4 місяці тому
Angmar was able to think and make decisions on his own. The Nazgul were slaves to the ring, so they had to do, what the ring-bearer told them. But they still had the ability to think and act (remember that part in the Appendices about the movements of the Nazgul? It clearly states that Angmar had to make plans and decide what to do). Like Sauron said: "Get me the ring" and the Nazgul planned and acted by themselves how to achieve that goal. Another point: Angmar was the leader of Sauron's army. How would he be able to do that, if he wasn't able to think, plan and act/give orders on his own. A mere puppet wouldn't have been able to do that. So, I'd say that after the Sauron's death and the destruction of the ring, they weren't disorientated and they surely weren't left without a purpose. The real question is: When the One Ring was destroyed, all other rings lost their power. How strong were the Nazgul bound to their ring? Did it gave them life and powers or did it just make sure that they did what Sauron asked them? If it gave them their powers and life, they would have just vanished/died. If it was just a means of controling them, they now would be free. But, as we all know just from reading LotR, they were destroyed/died from the explosion of Mount Doom.
@user-th3ll8rl7i
@user-th3ll8rl7i Місяць тому
I would have thought they just kind of evaporated and blew away. That's what happened to Saruman.
@billmullins6833
@billmullins6833 3 місяці тому
I always just figured that with the destruction of the one ring the Nazgul just faded away quickly.
@SI00000
@SI00000 4 місяці тому
Well said. Who did the artwork?
@TarMody
@TarMody 4 місяці тому
A speculative approach can be taken to this situation, since the status of their spiritual structure and destiny is uncertain at the end of the metaphysical transformation process into the ring-wraith. If it is assumed that the rings of power were made to prevent the elves from fading (due to their main purpose), the transformation into a wraith can be read as a side effect of these rings on humans. Depending on whether the soul is connected to Arda or not, if the soul-body (fëa-hröa) relationship is inherently opposite between elves and humans, the factor (rings of power) that prevents elves from fading may cause humans to fade. The fading of the human being as an incarnated being can be considered as the wraith form of existence. Since the factor causing this is a ring of power, the ring-wraith description seems appropriate. This is a theory. If this is the case, how can the phenomenon of death be defined for a ring-wraith? What will be their fate? When the One Ring is destroyed, do their souls go to the Halls of Mandos? These types of questions still remain unclear. Despite this uncertainty, my thoughts are as follows: It is out of the question for the soul of a being whose soul is created from the Secret Fire to perish. At best, they can continue their existence as an ineffective spiritual being like Sauron. Since the soul-body bond did not end (they did not die), it is possible that their souls did not go to the Halls of Mandos. It is possible that they fell into a psychological void when Sauron's influence on their will disappeared. I don't think they will remember their memories due to their mental deterioration.
@ericdoberstein8872
@ericdoberstein8872 3 місяці тому
The end of the Ringwraiths is described near the end of the chapter "mount doom" in the Return of the King. Sam watches the end of all of Sauron's works created with aid of the one ring, Mt. Doom reels and splits open, the Dark Tower collapses, and the last sentence says "And into the heart of the storm, with a cry that pierced all other sounds, tearing the clouds asunder, the Nazgul came, shooting like flaming bolts, as caught in the fiery ruin of hill and sky they crackled, withered, and went out". As for the Witch King who died at the hands of a hobbit and a woman, ( and thus the prophesy of Glorfindel came true because no man's hand had brought about his end), it was a blade that was crafted by the Dunedain to deal him "a wound so bitter, cleaving the undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will" that caused him to release a cry that "went up into the shuddering air, and faded to a to a shrill wailing, passing with the wind, a voice bodiless and thin, that died, and was swallowed up, and was never heard again in that age of this world". I think if their spirits somehow survived they ended up in the void with Morgoth.
@vincenthammons-kd9du
@vincenthammons-kd9du 29 днів тому
Doubt they got the morgoth treatment that would be unfair since they had no control over their actions
@Theomite
@Theomite 4 місяці тому
Damn, where'd you find these paintings? They're fantastic.
@SandNebula232
@SandNebula232 4 місяці тому
Subbed!
@jeremygreenwood1021
@jeremygreenwood1021 Місяць тому
I don't understand the references to the Halls of Mandos. I thought they were the preserve of elves. It is stated that without the sustenance of their rings they flickered and went out. It had never occurred to me that that might have been a blessed relief. Thank you for that. I would have liked to have known more of them before they faded into wraiths. I should imagine their ultimate fate was the same as that of other men, whatever that is.
@laercioeso
@laercioeso 2 місяці тому
It's ironic the Ring poem says the Nine were doomed to die, thought actually dying was the very thing they were never able to do...
@Sodalis_
@Sodalis_ 3 місяці тому
You have a truly wonderful voice
@Kref3
@Kref3 2 дні тому
My speculation always was, that with the destruction of the master ring the "nine for mortal men, doomed to die" lost all power and the Nine finally could die , or - considering that their corporal forms had withered away millenia ago, they simply withered into nothingness.
@steamedhamlet
@steamedhamlet Місяць тому
Indeed they inspired the Night's Cavalry from Elden Ring
@FerretJohn
@FerretJohn 4 місяці тому
I would have imagined that the Nine, being more connected to the One than the others, were broken when the One Ring was destroyed.
@armandowillem
@armandowillem 2 місяці тому
I know it's not considered "canon", but I like to think that at least one of the Nazgul aka the fallen ranger Talion from the Shadow of Mordor/War videogames finally got to pass into the afterlife and see his wife and son.
@89qwyg9yqa34t
@89qwyg9yqa34t Місяць тому
Honestly this would make a phenomenal addition to the LotR series to have a canon series of books that culminate in several of the Ring Wraiths saving Middle Earth from something. Unfortunately, with the owners of the IP being insane and the original author dead, it would only be offensive to fans.
@chadwickerman
@chadwickerman 3 місяці тому
I personally imagine that everything that made them human was devoured and replaced by darkness and evil. They were no more those kings of old than a fossil is the living bone of a dinosaur. Those kings ceased to be a long time ago, their souls slowly consumed, piece by piece until there was nothing left, their personality, motives, and desires erased. Any memories they retained of who they once were, were little more than vestige traces like fossilized remains. But instead of being fossilized by sediment, they were replaced by darkness and shadow. So when Sauron was defeated and the ring's power ended, they fizzled away completely with no trace, like a shadow disappearing in the light.
@craigpetroskey8934
@craigpetroskey8934 Місяць тому
I think the physical bodies of the Ringwraiths were returned to be entombed once more in the high Fells of Rhudaur. However, their ability to take physical forms was dependent on the power of the One Ring; once the One Ring was unmade, their re-entombment was permanent, as nobody except Gandalf the White knew where and how they were buried, and that secret went back to the Undying Lands with him.
@user-vj2wt7jh7j
@user-vj2wt7jh7j 4 місяці тому
The Ringwraiths were destroyed when Sauron was killed. The rings "Forged" (actually cast- one forges blades not rings) by Sauron lost there power and were unable to keep the undead Ringwraiths undead. Tolkien mentioned that they flickered out of existence.
@MarkMoore-xk2rn
@MarkMoore-xk2rn 4 місяці тому
Hola, subscribed and enjoyed, however, what is your source for your assertions, Take Care and Good luck
@RealmsUnravelled
@RealmsUnravelled 4 місяці тому
Thank you for subscribing and enjoying the content! When crafting my explorations and interpretations of Middle-earth, I draw from J.R.R. Tolkien's original works along with various other writings and notes by the author. Additionally, I also consider insights and theories shared by the Tolkien community over the years. These interpretations aim to offer fresh perspectives and thought-provoking discussions while staying true to the spirit of Tolkien's world. The assertions regarding the fate of the ringwraiths in particular that were the topic of this video were largely based on a quote from Gandalf the White in the ROTK as he faces down the Witch King and reads as follows: “You can not enter here,” said Gandalf, and the huge shadow halted. “Go back to the abyss prepared for you! Go back! Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your Master. Go!”
@MarkMoore-xk2rn
@MarkMoore-xk2rn 4 місяці тому
Fair comment. All the best with your adventure@@RealmsUnravelled
@eazyrider17
@eazyrider17 2 місяці тому
The picture at 0:28 where did you find that?? My wife desperately wants a print of it framed. Edit: I read the description that answered my question. For the record, people (including us) would pay good money for your art. It’s stunning.
@robertoprimordial2633
@robertoprimordial2633 2 місяці тому
Creio que seja feita por Inteligência Artificial. Quase todas as artes são feitas assim .
@RealmsUnravelled
@RealmsUnravelled 2 місяці тому
Hi, thanks for the suggestion. I have been meaning to get round to setting up a store to sell t-shirts and prints. I just put it live so prints are avaliable now! Links are in the description to the EU/UK or USA stores depending on where you are located. Hopefully that'll get you in the wife's good books!
@eazyrider17
@eazyrider17 2 місяці тому
@@RealmsUnravelledpurchased! Thank you!
@danielphillips6825
@danielphillips6825 3 місяці тому
Honestly the witch kings passing leaves the possibility of his return he is set out to let out a cry that is not heard again in that age. It would have been fun to see him trying to survive in the theoretical sequel by devouring the lesser rings witch likely retained their power.
@siobhanoconnell9444
@siobhanoconnell9444 19 днів тому
I imagine it would be similar to the Ghost Army being released
@zororora2210
@zororora2210 2 місяці тому
I see you you listen to your peers I also like your content you get my follow and like
@ElladanKenet
@ElladanKenet 3 місяці тому
1- Their powers lie in their rings, and by extension, the One Ring. When the RIng was destroyed, their rings lost their powers, and whatever kept them tethered to the plane ceased. 2- Being undead and empowered by their rings, they now no longer had anything keeping them on this plane. 3- Being formerly men, they would presumably go to join in on the Gift of Men, with all the rest of Mankind's dead. 4- Unlikely, but perhaps, being undead and creatures of shadow now, they may have been sent to the Void. But this isn't really supported by the next, no matter how logical it might seem. 5- Per your comment, this seems to be a reference to the prison where Morgoth was kept after being imprisoned. Perhaps it is the same place, or some similar place. Tolkien never really elaborated on it, but the text and mythos implies it is probably something like Hell. Which is interesting because the text otherwise implies that ALL men and elves go each to their own separate places, and there is really no mention of other options being available to them (dwarves may or may not rest in the Earth... never really explained either. Nor are other races and creatures).
@redeyedravenn4663
@redeyedravenn4663 3 місяці тому
Speaking of the Ring Wraiths I have a quick question. After the kings turned into ring wraiths what happened to their rings, did Sauron take them back, did the rings merge with the kings as they morphed into these husks of their former selves?
@John.S92
@John.S92 3 місяці тому
Only one being is ever said to have been completely "perished", and that is from the second prophecy of Mandos, Where Eru Illuvatar once and for all steps in and removes Melkor completely, then sing anew with all the ainur and elves an unbroken, healed Arda. In short; the ring-wraiths where not gone, their souls would have lingered, perhaps finally ended up in the Halls of Mandos as would any elven soul after death, even the souls of mortal men did go to the halls of Mandos before passing on.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 місяці тому
I love a happy ending! At the end of their torturously extended lives these shadow figures recovered their humanity.
@louisboulanger9695
@louisboulanger9695 3 місяці тому
in all the stories ever told, never was there any info on the rings of the dwarfs. i would be really interested to know more about that.
@devonsharkey414
@devonsharkey414 4 місяці тому
One can only delay, but not thwart the will of Eru Illuvitar. They share the Gift of Men.
@WarHawk-
@WarHawk- 3 місяці тому
Great story and nice speculation, but we all know that the Ring Wraiths were exiled from Middle Earth where they morphed into Dementors, forever bound to guard the island prison of Azkaban.
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