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hot take any GPU that approaches the cost of a Car was obsolete to begin with

We've heard this meme before, when rumors about the 30 series were popping up: "3060 RT performance on par with 2080 Ti"

Were's this going ? - RTX 9090 / i13 - 21900K @ 15Ghz with an air-conditioned Case for 16K gaming ? Do you get a coupon towards getting a dedicated 20 Amp circuit installed in your home. ( to play a game ) 🤣 Way beyond ridiculous.

Just make sure the 50 series doesn't use more power than 4090 and don't ship it with horrendous coil whine. Now that is an upgrade.

People, don't buy 5090 on release. In a year after there will be 5090 Super which will have $200 price drop. But do not buy it either, in one more year there will be 6090 which will double the performance of the 5090. But do not buy it either because...

Where would that 60% raster performance come from, without a significant node improvement? 3090 -> 4090 had a 64% improvement (Techpowerup), but it moved from Samsung 8nm to TSMC 4nm, a huge process jump. The 4090 also had a huge L2 cache increase (an order of magnitude); something similar can't be done again (not enough die space, and TSMC 5/4nm is right at the limits of SRAM scaling). There are also no meaningful leaks about a new architecture feature which would enable this (something like Zen 5's leaked ladder cache, except it would need to be more impactful).

Hot Take : If developers would optimize their games you wouldn't need to buy a GPU so often

I'll wait for that RTX 8080 Ti Super Titan Super Ti...

bros talking about the 5090 since the rtx 4090 came out...

Man it would be really nice if we could just get our PCs to catch up with our monitors for a decent price

I bought a 4090 on release day, not worried one bit by these rumours. Game Devs build games that target the latest gen consoles, as long as your PC can match that performance anything else is a nice to have for PC gaming.

How many releases are we told 2.5x faster only to get 30% faster? Ok well... maybe this time.

Imagine owning a $2,000+ card with melting power connectors, no DisplayPort 2.1, and that's already old and obsolete...

4090 owners will sell their GPU, and buy the new one, that's how it always works.

Sure... but a 5090 would require a 1200+ W PSU, and will heat up your room by an extra +5ºC on load, and will probably not fit in about 80% of the standard ATX Mid PC cases out there. And of course will probably be the first GPU to reach the $3,000 price mark.

I used a 960 for 8 years and then upgraded to a 4090.... i wont be upgrading for a long time

You forgot to mention that 50 series is gonna support DP 2.1 most likely - which is also important.

Maybe the 5090 will provide another great leap in performance, but we know what Nvidia does to the lower cards.

i just have my Alienware core i9 14th Gen 64gb ddr5 3200 and RTX 4090 2 days. and the games... im in AWE.. im coming from a 13year old pc. so.... i wanted to wait for a 5090. but thats more then a year away.. and then comes the 6090 etc.. So i have a 4090. and i play like a King a emperor. my euro is less the minute i bought it but he.. this sort yt talks makes people dissatisfied and you always have to have the best. After 13 years I finally have a gaming PC. and the games run smoothly. In 7 years I will buy a new Alienware with my 61st year old. so dudes game onn. so game on and be happy with what you can afford..

i feel like the flagship card being ludicrously expensive is less of an issue than the cost of a midrange card being $500+. I just paid like $800 for a 4070ti super like bro what????

More rumors and speculation from a channel grasping for relevance.

I don't even think a 1080 TI is obsolete.

2x the performance in DLSS and such but not raster. Noway.

Nobody in the history of playing games has said " oh those shadows are unrealistic, its ruined this game for me now". Raytracing for me is and always will be a fad thats pushed as it makes game development cheaper and easier for devs as they dont have to prebake shadows and relfections. We are essentially paying for big budget publishers to save money. The whole thing is a giant con for gamers and being sold as some magic bullet while nvidia takes backhand payments from publishers to push this. Not to mention they can spend less time on rasterization. But i wont buy a 5000 series GPU if it has that 12VHPWR connector as i dont fancy my card melting plus existing tech is way more efficient and safer even without the melting cables.

They are entirely to expensive 2 grand for a gpu is ridiculous the average consumer has less in their whole set up

4:23 keep dreaming. Ive heard the same before 40 series. “Bruh 4060 will be at least as good as 3080” hahahah

I have a 4090 for over a year but I will skip the 50 series and will wait for RDNA5 or the 60 series or whatever it will be...

Are you backtracking on your 4090ti / titan rumors? This seems fairly unlikely if the 5000 series is coming out relatively soon as you say.

I hate baiters. Its always the same thing every time a new gen of anything comes out.

The only game I've seen NOTICEABLE IMPROVEMENT with RT is MINECRAFT! Really don't care about ponds or windows reflecting accurate images!

Oh it's obsolete? Where can I buy the card that is better?

Just upgraded from GTX1080 to RTX4080 Super and can't see any difference other than being able to turn on Ray Tracing which makes it slower than my GTX1080!!! Now 5080 coming in few months will make it obsolete

This is the same type of rumors that come out before every new GPU. The 3090 to the 4090 was one of the biggest jumps we've seen, and Nvidia had to accomplish a lot just to make that happen. This is probably just rumors.

This is why I skipped the 40 gen

I've been keeping up with these releases from the 30 series till now and my best way to conclude is it'll most likely to be release near the end of this year/early next year for some cards, propably performance wise almost 2X (for specific cards) and it'll priced even more outrageous which will lead to every tech reviewers would say.. meh or straight up disappointed. At the very least, its more energy efficient so that's good. Just don't have high expectations, that's all.

When are you and display guy doing to do a collab?

Simply having ray tracing requires basically no work for the devs as apposed to traditional methods which require a lot of work to manually create. Ray tracing is automatic so no work needed. It will cut development time greatly.

Unless RTX gives me equivalent performance when enabled as disabled I don't see myself ever using it.

I'm still getting driver updates for my GTX 1060 6GB. Does that mean that it's obsolete? 😂

5090 will come with the MATT signal so no glossy oled will be able to display correctly. You HAVE to use MATT oled.

How could it be sixty percent faster in raster and hundred and fifty in ray tracing? I understand how they got a good uplift from Ampere to Ada because they switched from Samsung to TSMC. I don't see how it could achieve as high a leap when they are just moving to a slightly better node.

I will need a space for my gaming setup in my workshop soon, only place where I have 3 phase outlet for 5090.

Even if the price jumps to $3000 on 5090, it would still be a "reasonable" price because of AI stuff. If there is another optimization discovery, you could probably create your own better chatgpt 4.0 in just a day with a 5090. You could probably generate "good" movies in just a day too. The possibilities are endless and not just at gaming

Yeah, I keep telling me my 4090 will be obsolete in like six months and see how long I keep your channel going. Yeah thanks a lot we pay an arm and a leg and you’re really uplifting here. And knowing Nvidia, they’ll probably make sure that the 5070 is only a gigs because that’s how smart they are

so...no specs, no bench, no real reason to assume anything other than "new card numbers go up obsolete click bait"

That's not how any of this works lol. You can't just magic 2.5x performance increases. Even a 60% performance jump is far outside normal generational progress. You know what is pretty common? People using click bait thumbnails and titles to get view.

My 4060 Ti upgraded this video to 8k via super resolution.

I’m currently looking to pick up a 4090 this week, and this video is kind of dumb. Sure, the new card that comes out in 10 months will probably be significantly more powerful (as they always are), but a 4090 will be more than enough for me for the next several years. I play at 1440p anyway, I just wanted to get so many frames I never have to think about it, and the price bloat on any card below the 4090 puts them within about 300 bucks of a 4090 anyway. Maybe some people like to upgrade annually, but I’d prefer to do a significant upgrade to my pc every 3-5 years and go from there. The 5090 doesn’t change that. If it is so incredible I can just sell the 4090 at a similar price to what it is now since the stock will still be nonexistent and go from there.

50 series is at 2025 launch. I don't see this change. But that said Battlemage between now and 3-4 months and Celestial that is late 2024 early 2025 might change things.

I sold my 3060 ti from my build few days ago. I had it since launch, but now I'm more travelling, so I'm used to steam deck more than my pc, but after 5000 series release I'm planning to buy something like 5070 for good performance per wattage and play some titles that I want to play later like Cyberpunk which I have in library for almost a year, but never played it, RDR2 for second time and maybe GTA 6 who knows when this releases on pc and overally some new games

The future of graphics (and game development) is going to be AI. I would bet Nvidia is continuing to move heavily in this direction with the 50 series.

Loughed out loud that you think I might have a 4090!😂

Come to think of it, the 4000 series launched back in October 2022, so a potential release of the 5000 series this year, perfectly matches the two year time window NVIDIA had between their major GPU releases. And i was about to say "so soon?". It's not soon, It's that time flies and i didn't even realize the 4000 series is close to its 2 year birthday. Damn... It feels like they were launched literally yesterday!

Thanks Graphically Challenged for making this video when I just ordered a new PC build with a 4090 in it...

Remember when Nvidia didn't provide support for frame generation on their rtx 3000 series? Yeah imagine previous gens being obsolete.

This is a typical Tech Move. The New Best thing is always limited when the Next New Thing comes out. Unless you have to have it, then sell your 4090, to finance the new 50 series, then continue forward. I'll be happy when the 50 series come out, then I'll get a 40 series when the prices drop 😁

It's definitely a clickbait title. The 4090, especially the 4090 Super when it comes out, will still probably beat all of the 5000 series except for the 5090 which will probably only be about 25-30% faster and that speed will be tied to RT and DLSS performance. Their architecture is gearing towards AI not graphical advances, just look at the new cpu and motherboard architecture, its probably going to be slower than the 14900KS. AI is their concern now its not enthusiasts anymore, which will help is with rendering, RT etc., but not much else as far as gaming goes, which by the way will not be trying to push any kind of envelope anyway, they don't even do that now. The only reason they are so focused on RT is because it makes their life easier and saves them money, they don't actually care about advancing gaming graphics, it's just a money saving measure. ATX 3.1 fixed the connector issues, new 4090s already come with the new connector, Corsair just released their adapter for 3.1 and Seasonic already beta tested theirs, so that's not even a concern now. I think I'm just going to get a ATX 3.1 PSU, a 4090 Super and a 14900KS and call it good for at least 5 years at top level proformance @4k. Also, no I don't care if my power bill is 30 dollars more a year, I'm OK with it 😂

Bruh they said this shit back when the 4090 was about to come out, i'll believe it when i see it.

Seems like you're looking for any reason to call the 4090 obsolete. Really grasping at the headline here.

That is such a bad take. Why would developers not let you turn off ray tracing? What, you think that because that doesn't happen in a console game like Spiderman 2, the PC port of that game will not let you turn it off?

Games won't be developed for the 5090 for a couple more years, those games will then take a few more years to come to market. Honestly I also doubt the idea that the 5060 is going to be faster than a 4090. I've seen nothing that points that way. NVIDIA might pull off the rumors on the 5090, but even that seems doubtful to me. I heard potentially a 40% jump from the 4090 to the 5090 releasing early to mid next year.

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its no surprising most games are getting built with ray tracing by default. its not only because its the "best visually" but because it takes devs significantly less time to light a scene. set 1-2 light sources enable ray tracing to create a fairly realistic bounce lighting in the room done... vs set up direct lighting sources. then place a bunch of fake light maps to illuminate areas that the direct lighting doesn't reach to simulate realistic lightning. sadly as great as all this tech is, sure it has the potentially to create truly amazing visuals with the right effort put in. the flip side is, it also makes it very easy to small teams or lazy studios to make a game look triple a visually without much effort, but then upon release, we realise why they were able to create it, simply put they didn't the engine did they just did some basic shit and the engine did all the work, problem with that is it runs at 20 fps on a 4090 at 1080p because they did zero performance testing. looking at immortals, lords of the fallen and revenant.

5060s as fast as 4090s? prepare for the entire price bracket to bump back up. Entry level will be 400-600 a card

I was thinking of buying a 7900 xtx or a used 4080, not great news, but I do find these over the top changes to rarely come true. It may bite me in the ass, but I think I'll go with amd for my next upgrade.

I will wait for the RTX 5090 to be released, and once it is released I will wait again for the RTX 6090 to be released. The waiting is going to be forever when my wallet is empty.

I think this is reaching a bit, even if the reported gains were to be true, game devs won't be going all out to make sure their games will absolutely require such high end gpu's to run. I'm sure the 4090 will be more than adequate even three years from.

There's far to many variables to say. - GPU availability likely to get worse after a short term relief - the 50 series is likely coming in 25. The only game of note that will tax a 4090 is cyberpunk. Sire there are more coming but the games industry isn't churning out games with crazy graphics. The statement that you might find yourself struggling to run a game in less than a year is nonsense. - Cloud GPU's are where all the R&D budget will be going for the foreseeable. Yes that could bring improvements for standard cards but given the size of these things now, and how companies love a SaS model, it could well go into cloud computing. -To say a 4090 obsolete would render all other gpu's the same. Its got about as much chance to go up over the next year as it has to go down. I appreciate clickbait but this was marginally over the line given the zero information our sources provided

still going with w/e AMD Offers with the 8000 series Flagship in a Red Devil Version even for RT On tho IDC about it but still going to support the underdog that's nipping at nvidias heels in Raw Performance for cheaper now just need them theirselfs to pick up on the RT side of things

Ray tracing won't matter until a low end card can run it

8k gaming is here, that is $8000 gaming PCs.

Let's not exagerate, 4090 is a beast...and will be for a few more years Even my 3090 FE is a beast at 1440p and crazy good in 4k gaming...

it seems like every time nvidia is gearing up for a release in a few months, we get people talking about how it's going to be about 2-2.5x the current generation and then when they release (with a few exceptions) we get roughly 30-40% improvement in the actual cards released (comparing the highest end cards in the series i.e. 2080ti, 3090, 4090, the exception of course being the jump from 980 to 1080ti which WAS roughly 50%, an amazing card, and certainly an outlier that mixed up the whole business for quite a while). and while I would LOOOVE for these rumors to be true that we're looking at 2-2.5x improvement in blackwell, because I game at 4k, because i love ray tracing, because I am a high resolution high frame rate vr enthusiast (my pimax 8k x is 2x3840x2160@90hz which is a lot of pixels to push), until I see real benchmarks from hardware that real people can buy off the shelf, I'm going to assume that we're looking at the normal 30%. at the end of the day, I'm going to buy it anyway, as close to launch as I can but AFTER the reviews come out (just in case there are any serious problems) just as I have done since the 10 series. if you buy a gpu at ~2k just after launch, buy a new card when the new generation comes out 2 years later for $2k, and then sell the card you originally bought for half price ($1k), you're only spending $1k per generation. Also fwiw, it used to be that you could ROI your gpu just by setting up nicehash to mine when your computer was idle so my 10 and 20 series cards paid for themselves and all their power over the lifetime of ownership and that was pretty sweet... i'm sad you can't do that anymore.)

Game graphics will improve relative to the pace that the masses can afford it. You’ll be fine on the 4090 for years to come.

Sounds insanely amazing, if only Bethesda uses it in their future games though I am excited for whats to come for all the numerous developers

Does...The gaming performance of the high end GPUs even...Really like...Matter anymore? I can't imagine needing more than 4k 120hz personally, and a 4090 basically does that in games I play at settings I use. Realistically, all I core about now is VRAM and power efficiency, performance be damned.

LOL, by that you can throw all AMD and Intel in junk category?

I've got a 4070 rn, I hope the 5070 will be 50% faster so I can finally upgrade to an ultrawide monitor

Who's writing these leaks and rumors, Todd Howard?

okay... the RTX 4090 is absolutely not obsolete... and wont be for a very long time. Plus, we all know nvidia so lets not forget to mention the 50 series prices. 5090? yeah no shot its anything below 2 grand starting MSRP. the 4090 is going to be the sweet spot for a lot of people who are willing to pay decent money and get an outstanding GPU in return. Now, if you video title was maybe 4070 or 4080 is obsolete, i would understand more. 4090 is just too good.

You've been saying the same thing since it came out, yet it's been the only GPU worth buying.

I'm still on my 2080. maybe i'll upgrade to a 4090 when 60 series are out lol. actually next card i get is probably going to be an arc card just because i've never had one.

lol the quicker the 50-60 series come out and make the 4090 “obsolete” I will be grabbing this obsolete card as soon as the price drops and be set for YEARS…. I usually only play in 1440 or 3K….thats more than enough for probably the next decade with a 4090

Honestly for 3440x1440 240hz max I'm sure my 4090 will be perfectly fine till the 6090 comes out, I wouldn't be playing a twitchy fps on max settings or with RT and most story driven games are fine for 75fps+ for me.

Future games wont have option to turn off ray tracing? Thats pretty much forcing EVERYONE to buy 50 series nvidia card. Bullcrap

Highly doubt it would be 2.5x better performance maybe 15% faster non DLSS/Frame generation better performance. The 4090 already seems too good to the point where nothing else could've been improved hence why there's no 4090 Ti.

This is why I skip a generation as a casual gamer. My 3080ti still chugs but when 5000 series comes out, I’m for sure upgrading.

So you think Gamers in a short period of time, without any strong ray tracing performing card cant play newer games? Developers want as many to play their games so they can sell.

They don't need such a big jump in performance, they will keep selling cards with 15%-25% more performance for the each new generation just to keep the consumer buyng them more and more.

I'm less interested in pushing bleeding edge games and more interested in pushing multiple 4k monitors at or above 120hz.

Even if the 5090 COULD be 2.5x faster, nVidia will cripple it so they're faster than AMD, but not so much that they give you good value. They wouldn't want to give you too much performance for your dollar.

LoL graphic cards keep evolving with new graphic cards every yr nothing is absolute until the company creates the ultimate graphic card

So i need to trade in my 7900 XTX?

the 3090 was a hell of a card and after one generation the 4070 super equals it in performance. IF this will become a trend then we'll be expecting the 5070 to be as much as powerful as the 4090 for less than a thousand bucks

I don't think this guy even know what the word obsolete means. The only thing that will happen is that it won't be the top card which is something that happens EVERY time a new architecture comes out. Even if 50 series comes out this year it will be very late this year and it would have had the typical 2 year cycle. So what? Also the card doesn't become obsolete because it will still be able to play any game out there at 4K 60fps and higher, even more so with DLSS and even more so than that with Frame generation. You'd likely for the next 2 years play most games at 120fps at 4K with frame generation and DLSS ultra with ease. I am so satisfied with the 4090 that it hasn't even tapped into the fullest potential. I won't be going with 50 series because it will hold me over to 60 series. Which is not something that I can say about previous cards except the 1080Ti that lasted beyond 2080Ti release.

l'immagine di copetina che hai usato . l'ho sognata qualche giorno fa della 5090!! sarebbe stata tutta in oro.. heheheheh

thats the issue with the flagship 90 cards and i said it when the 3090 came out was better to grab a 3080 unless u really dont care and have the disposible income to grab the flagship card every genration. cuz one generation later its preformance will become a hell of a lot more affordable on the upper but not flagship cards.

The RTX 4090 is obsolete if you do not have one!!!

If you think the 50 series nvidia cards are going to be that powerful, you are sadly mistaken. They’re going to rely on DLSS and they’re crappy software instead of hardware.