Sadly for us Terrans, you wonder if the Trisolarians watched the construction of the fleet with bemused smiles the entire time

The whole time in the second book people were boasting about how they were going to beat the Trisolarans I was waiting for the other shoe to drop. And when it did it was one of the most memorable scenes in the book. Made some later events kind of cathartic, though.

Why did the commanders of the fleet decide it was a good idea to bring all of the battleships together and line them up in a nice grid to meet the teardrop? As humanity could not deal with the sophons for centuries and they were malevolent sub atomic particles, why did people they think they could deal with a spaceship that was massive was? This was a huge failure. I know humans thought their technology matched Trisolarian technology based on observation of the first Trisolar nvasion fleet but they should have thought about it and accepted human technology had not got to the level of Trisolarian technology. Even as I read this I knew it was a mistake to bring all of the fleet ships to one location. The Trisolarians made similar mistakes. They should have killed Luo Ji when they had a chance. If I was the Trisolarian commander I would have sent the droplet on a hunter killer operation, killing as many humans as it could till the next droplets arrived to finish off humanity. They would have been the real hunters in the dark forest. The Trisolarans showed their mean streak too late.

@@kdegraa As far as the human commanders and fleet position, it is explained in the book that because of politics (each ship was essentially a nation-state and thought of themselves important as such) the fleet decided to align itself that way so that there was no "disparity" between the ships, that they all presented an equal front to the Trisolarans. Even characters in the book talk about how stupid and dangerous it is, and that it's a bad idea. But they are ignored, and we see a couple of them die almost guessing exactly what happened.

@@danielcaraballo113 in the next book another similar situation occurs. After the Sophons, the teardrop, seeing two solar systems destroyed, why the hell would not everyone clear off when they had a chance. Travelling at light speed was really the only way to go along with setting up habitats far beyond the solar system for human survival. Humanity by this time lives in habitats in space. Rather than hiding behind planets, they should have been hiding out in interstellar space. The prohibition against escaping did not make sense when people have already escaped Earth. In this universe I’d imagine there would be many refugees travelling the galaxy, trying to hide from those who think they are dangerous. However I kind of think the whole premise of the books are false. While space is limited in theory, in practice it’s limitless. If a civilisation becomes space faring then it will create artificial habitats in space. Space is so huge it would take many millions or billions of years for a civilisation to occupy and run out of room in a solar system.

就和我们随意杀死蚂蚁一样。 我们不用去关心蚂蚁的生死。 在宇宙中也是如此

Remember, that is just a rewording of the quote, "If I love you, what business is it of yours?" by Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe, used earlier in the book. Makes it more powerful.

i love that he goes back to this idea so often, that no matter how important we think we are, or what purpose we believe we have, we aren’t very different from an ant going along it’s business, obvious to what is actually out there.

Well, to be fair, ants bite and there's a reason people stay away from their nests. In fact, many geniuses have marveled at the innovation and collectivism at play in ant colonies. Proves once again that pride is a greater sin for a civilization than their avarice.

insects are 80 percent of the biomass of this world and ants have had an outsized role in creating the soils you live on. without them no you....can you kick over a planet? thats the size of the total ant hill....humans see one little colony and think because they impacted that they are strong and powerful....well...nothing is ever what it seems...

Never underestimate human arrogance

​@@MagikarpManI bet you're vaccinated😂

@@covidenslavement8918 your mum's dead

@@covidenslavement8918uh what

@@covidenslavement8918btw don't actually respond

Same bruh. When i got to the future part i was like huh human situation is looking pretty good there was no need of all that worrying in early crisis era. Then the droplet happened ☠️. Then i thought offcourse trisolarans are also advancing their science while we were stuck due to sophons and they made a weapon far more dangerous then their old fleet.

I actually was not surprised that the humanity became so oblivious to one single truth, "A civilisation travelling 4 light years or 36 trillion kms would be something we can take on, when our understanding and knowledge had already proven that interstellar travel is something we will not be able to achieve anytime soon. In a way I failed to understand the hubris of humanity and how they could be such fools, but alas we are.

You know, as fun as it was to read I think there is a story to be told in the complete opposite of this. I mean it would be a series anathema to this one both in tone and implications. But the idea of an aggressor doing what Trisolaran's did but actually conforming to what much of humanity began to believe in it being something of a peace offering instead of the Trojan horse it was could make for an interesting concept. That in recognizing that humanities growth meant that a war would wind up not only creating massive casualties on each side but also the possible destruction of the planet both wished to inhabit, resulted in a different line of thought within the aliens just as it had the humans. Like I said, it would be an incredibly different work of fiction. A far, far, far more hopeful one. But all the same there's an idea in that, that I don't think I've ever really seen explored before. The aggressor turned sympathetic ally long before they arrived through the recognition that the universe is cold and uncaring of our existence and then actually follow through on the sides collaborating. You could even do this and still continue writing a dark story under the proper circumstances. Show them arrive, engage in political and social discourse that eventually results in co-existence and then still remind us that, "Oh, yeah, the universe doesn't care" with some of its later revelations hitting them or something even greater than we ever see. If anything this might actually make the darkness that's coming hit even harder as you're briefly lulled into the idea that maybe it wasn't that kind of book in the first place and it was actually wrapping a noptimistic ending in a pessimistic shell only to broadside you just as things are looking up for the two species. I don't know, call me crazy I just think there's something there. Because as soon as the droplet was detected I immediately knew shit was going to go sideways either when it arrived or shortly thereafter, and sure enough there we go. If it had been played entirely straight it could really throw the reader for a loop when something far worse happens later in the series. But all that said...yeah it was still cool to read.

@@sa4555 I think it's based on that old truth nugget of "humanity is doomed to repeat the past" because unless an idea is constantly reinforced in our minds most people will forget, or at the very least diminish, a mistake made both on a micro and macro level within just a few years of making it. In the book humanity went from almost going extinct to a new golden age of both peace and technology in enough time that some of the people who were alive when people were eating each other were still alive when the reorganization of the space force began. And it's easy to see how their predecessors could look at that and say "Look at the progress we've made in such a short time, how could they manage that?" because at the end of the day humanity has spent its entire existence thinking it's special, that it's the only species with the intellect we have (this could possibly be true in reality, if doubtful, though the likelihood of any of us living to find out is beyond negligible). And while humanity in this book now knows they aren't alone it isn't until this attack that they actually have to come face-to-face with the fact they they aren't in-fact, special in any way. They aren't the heroes of the galaxy and their technology isn't going to magically outpace a species thousands of years ahead of them in two-centuries. So while at first it seems a little odd that humanity would just think they could magically outclass their foe if you really think about how humanity has proven time-and-time again both its short memory and total arrogance in thinking itself the master of its domain (its story if you will) it does begin to make a bit of sense.

Personally, such an outcome seemed obvious to me when it turned out that no prerequisites for peace from Trisolaris were actually observed. If they really wanted this, they have the most direct channel of communication with the Earth through the Sophons. But since this did not happen, it means that these negotiations existed only in the wet dreams of pampered humanity. (More than sure that this effeminacy only strengthened the determination to get rid of people) Pretty good illustration of the fact that humanity has a very short memory.

these are things china is actively working on rn..china and communist iron fist will take over the planet..you will be our slaves..get used to it..were just superior

@@kickassandchewbubblegum639 ???

@@kickassandchewbubblegum639 You still struggle to keep planes in the sky.

@@kickassandchewbubblegum639 superior at subjecting 90% of your own population to extremely horrid atmospheric conditions, superior at incredibly stupid amounts of obedience to a central authority, superior at holding on to superstitions and make-belief, superior at eliminating your own neighbors just because they dance in parks, superior at ridiculing the entire backbone of your society because higher education is the only thing that matters, superior at being incredibly racist.

eh, it does feel like the sort of thing someone with little actual knowledge on science would write. Granted still better than the giant pile of rubbish that is most modern 'science' fiction (read: science fantasy)

Same for me. The droplet scene was really shocking and breathtaking. The brutal violance of the droplet shows technical superiority of trisolarans on one hand, however on the other it shows how primitive they are - using raw mechanical power to deal destruction.

@@EmperorMato The point is they didn't even need to use their real weapons, the droplet was just a unarmed probe. We were bugs to them.

It's been a while since I read those books but I remember that scene being great. That old doctor/scientist guy (please forgive me) tells them something like; "They're probably going to have technology that is so advanced, we won't even be able to recognize it for what it is." which foreshadows the annihilation nicely.

Actually there is a shot film on youtube called “ Waterdrop :the fans movie of The three-body problem", which done rather well in capturing the atmosphere, that uncanny calm before storm.

@@MsCuirassier I love that video! It definitely shows the beauty and upcoming violence excellently

“Shit, cover is blown, gotta start now!”

Imagine being a safari guy driving a well supported jeep and a gun in your hand, all is chill until the leopard on the side of the road start to dodge away from where you aim your gun.

What about trojen... The famous story we alll alll heard

@@hangmingzhang5067 Clever girrrl

Maybe they should have sent some Buddhist monks to inspect the droplets

yeah, fascinating but dark

It puts things into perspective for sure. We see ants and we douse them in chemicals until they are annihilated. The horror begins when we find out that we are the ants.

That's a great review to be fair .

The 🌎 is slowly being destroyed,not to mention that the age of deterrence is ending, with nuclear weapons ready to be used 2022

Me too, I thought they were genius but the vibe was not enjoyable. I don't want to feel that dread again, but I'm glad that I experienced it. The book really changes one's perception of the world.

Soon as I learned an alien race was coming, and they have a way to stall our technological growth.... Time to look for a new world people, lets see how much we can strip from this one to make ark ships!

@@lostbutfreesoul sadly, in the dark forest trilogy, humanity literally memetically engineered themselves to have a phobia to strategically run away. Yep, in fact it was punishable by death to even try to make a way to escape.

@@lostbutfreesoul Escapism was banned by human governments in the books, because no matter how hard they tried there would never be enough spaceships to get more than a miniscule percentage of the population of Earth off planet. They realized that squabbling over who gets to go and who has to die would mean nothing ever gets done and might even lead to civil wars or class wars between different groups trying to make sure their great great great grandchildren get to leave. So they just said "If not everyone's leaving, no one can," and forced everyone to stand their ground. Very extreme and they definitely took it too far, but sadly they were probably right about the squabbling. Not that it really would have mattered since Trisolarans would have just sent Droplets to intercept the escaping ships, dooming humanity anyway.

@@lukred6271 or maybe they’d strip it down to the bedrock for all its resources and then dig through the bedrock to harvest the earth’s metal core.

​@@lukred6271 If Trisolaris had their way they would literally have made humans eat each other until only a few million humans were left, who would then live short, miserable lives on preserves as savages. That kind of atrocity is not what I would consider a good thing.

wade was cool.

Wade is lowkey my hero in the book. Saw what needed to be done and was willing to do it. Even stood by his word. Such a dichotomy or ruthless pursuit of the greater good and honor. Was an interesting contrast to Cheng Xin.

@@OberynTheRedViper contrast Bruhh i hate that shit chin Wade was right all the way like zhang raiz etc

@@oneminsol7418 no

@@davidsplooge14 ???

To be fair, most military innovations since the Stone Age have basically amounted to new and creative ways to throw hard objects at people

@@Paraphen that tells a lot about earthlings technology.

There’s something to be said for the KISS principle. Not everything needs to be super impressive…

The worst part is humanity was only 20 years or so away from developing a countermeasure to the probe, as explained in the 3rd book. They were on the verge of creating the same kind of supermaterial, that could be used as shields and projectiles against probes.

@@xahbal yea, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. IMPROVE IT. Example: Unga bunga! Rock-hurt. Rock in sling. Sling rock-MORE HURT! UNGA BUNGA!! We sharpened the rock&put it on a stick! We took the rock on a stick&put it on rope attached to a piece of wood to make it faster&hurt better! We replaced rock with metal! We replaced the string with boom-boom powder, the metal no longer needs wood to fly through the air! We made bigger boom-boom sticks&metal balls. We put them on boats. We made boom-boom sticks easy to reload&higher capacity. We made exploding boomers. We made rolling boomers. We made FLYING BOOMERS. Some schmuck made an atomic boomer…..let’s tell the world to ease it on back a bit with that one, but no one that was researching&actively developing them really will. We also made napalm. Apparently napalm violates a checklist. Note to self: flying chunks of metal-okay, exploding chunks of metal-okay. No chemicals…..

Totally agree. I so, so hope this gets put on screen with a solid budget to do it justice. Super epic.

Dual vector foil

The earth go hard. Hard, with a whimper.

@@MrBobby35790 I don't think we (human) have the ability to do it justice, not right now.

@@MrBobby35790 I hears that the guys who adapted game of thrones ( and ruined it in the final seasons ) will adapt this one. Let's hope for the best....

Quinn...THANK YOU for continuing to cover this trilogy.

did you know him back when his channel was called "Idea's Of Ice & Fire"? now that I think back I think I found him around season 2-3 of "Game Of Thrones" him & a few other YT people convinced me to read them.

The color of his skin put you off. The white mans extreme obsession with color blinds him to other colors

Right. Like he's THAT surprised to find a black guy who can do book reviews that he's in total bliss. Weird as hell. No disrespect to Quinn obvs

@@esecallum :::pats you on the head::: what a good little woke joke parrot you are. Polly want a cracker?

Wait'll they see what happens when you paint one red

​@@jlshel42 a red tear drop!? It's 3 times faster!!!!

​@@wesbrannick8269 Da red wunz go fasta!

​@@Hunfleder MOAR DAKKA FOR DA SHOOTA

Warhammer-Gundam logic initiated. Engineer: This is the RB-79 ball. On paper, it should be able to out accelerate and out turn a Zaku. It also has a big gun, but we haven't figured out how to fit it with plot armor so it does diddly. Federation: How many can you get me? Engineer: Refitting civilian space pods, about 1200 in a month... Federation: That's a whole lot of diddly.

I cannot wait to start reading the last one. I finished the first two already.

@@Helios.vfx.started the first book yesterday afternoon and im already almost half way through, already addicted lol

Mateee you've got a lot to read about lol. No spoilers, obvioiusly. I finished the whole original 3 series, except by the 4th by another author. Really great series. I recommend you the "Project Hail Mary" from Andy Weir. You'll love it. @@puckles7585

hello

Totally!

Salvation Sequence by Peter F. Hamilton. That did it for me. ;)

@@eurybaric read the synopsis and definitely going to pick it up, good looks

It is the single greatest piece of fiction I've ever read. And I have a home library of more than 5,000 books. This trilogy utterly changed the way I look up at the stars. I loved every moment I spent living within its pages.

The French may have a similar feeling when recalling their Maginot Line😂

Berserk did for me when I first read it

same! I'm nearing end for the dark forest too!

"The Dark Forrest" or "Humanity Getting Kicked In The Dick Repeatedly"

The Dark Forest is the best of the three books imo!

@@KaitlinLuksa thus far it's my favorites too.

Prepare your mind. It will be blown.

Oh ya, that's a sweet book! Haha but I'm not sure winning the Clarke award is exactly flying under the radar :)

Amazing read, the Children of ruin is pretty cool too. Check out the Koli trilogy by M.R. Carey - just brilliant

Loved it, the sequel was good too, weird as the first, but somehow not as compelling. The first was so good, and i am sitting there going, I am reading about a giant spider society, and it doesn't feel strange. The humans feel strange.

@@thej3799 That’s a great point. It’s the humans that feel strange - I didn’t realise that was how I viewed it until now. Thanks !

I sampled them on Audible and passed because I didn't like the narrator. To me, his voice made everything sound even drier and I wanted the opposite. This guy, I would love to hear those books read by him. He's the one who got me interested in the first place but I'm kinda stuck bc I basically gave up real reading years ago 🤣

very stupid to put all ships next to each other. its was pretty obvious the droplet was a TROJAN HORSE

​@@esecallum To us, maybe, but these were people that grew up in a time of peace and technological prosperity after ages of sophon stifling. It must have felt like technology was escalating too fast for trisolarans to catch up. If I remember correctly, they did try and take common era military personnel to command fleets. Though many commanders were too eager to be the first to make first contact. Fleets weren't united under a single country so this was the agreed upon plan to give each country equal opportunity to make history.

@@DeskToyStudios nah, I see where you're coming from, but they supposedly ran simulations and what not. It's just too much incompetence from too many people to leave all ships close by (and lined up at that), specially when the explosion of a ship can trip the systems of the other and you're literally dealing with aliens who were already capable of doing a lot of crazy stuff a long long time ago

@@user-sl6gn1ss8p we'd definitely do something like that though. I mean, we're burning and banning books en masse and "witches" are being outed, one was murdered recently (not a real witch obviously) but we'll always be this primitive in our thinking especially with this atrocious education system. Welcome aboard to the new dark ages and techno feudalism as we leave late stage capitalism behind :) it doesn't even look cool like blade runner lol

@@Junksaint I do agree we do lot of dumb shit, but this is just not comparable. I'm not even saying this is the dumbest thing ever done by humans, but it's just of *another kind*, that I find forced in context (my context being just this video, it might well make sense in the books for all I know). Like, it's takes a special kind of naivety for all of the worlds militaries to think "you know what, we should just leave all of our ships in the same place and in straight lines in space while waiting for a literal alien attack". Specially given that we know that they ran "simulations". Shit happens and the pandemic for one has shown that, but this strains my suspension of disbelief : p

Grow up and be a man

Kinda like catapults and trebuchets being used in the Syrian war.

I an! Lol

Me. And i'm scared that this teardrop battle will now only be a single episode in season 2. But i'm not sure if there is a season 2. It's not that successful and Netflix is serious about canceling everything

season 2 is already in the works i hear@@llothar68

Everyone 😂 .... Expect for NERDS ❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤🎉❤😊

Is gonna be 2. Season?

The sophons could move at the speed of light, making them inescapable, and it was not known how many there were on earth

@@bucketmisser3210 SPOILER FOR ANYONE READING iirc blue space was being pursued by a ship as well as one of the tear drops (which was planning on backstabbing both human ships) until they entered the 4d rip which allowed the crew to dismantle the tear drop, it was extremely important for the trisolarans to get rid of the ship otherwise their new home would be under threat, if sophon's could reach that ship then they would've warned / reprogrammed the tear drop to avoid the 4d rip / attack as soon as the 4d vulnerability was known by the crew. Also i'm pretty sure its directly mentioned that blue space left the ranged of the sophons influence.

@@BadVoodo0 but the 4d bubbles were drying and moving through space, they were also far from the solar system, building a particle collider in such circumstances so far from home would be hard. Also people loose all sense of direction inside them.

@@itobin2957 i know but that doesn't change the point, if sophon was observing blue space they would've noticed them slipping into 4d and the tear drop would've been better prepared, in fact (forgot the ships name) but the fact that the trysolarians allowed the human ship to perusing blue space in the first place rather then skipping diplomatic formalities shows the lack of threat aweness which ultimately cost them the war. Also >building a particle collider in such circumstances so far from home would be hard yes, but not impossible, you would need a bigger ship for sure. That said i just realized you'd need at least 3 ships to factor out stuff like local noise / filters / space-environmental factors, and said 3 ships would have to have some communication to compare results. But considering iirc the human race had 1000 ships, its not that much of a tall order to fulfill.

Leaving Sophon range would mean leaving the solar system. That's dangerously close to Escapism, better watch out before you get shot for cowardice and betrayal of the human race!

It might not even be a weapon. Just coincidentally had the ability to be used that way.

@@silverhawkscape2677 I’m pretty sure that’s the case. Ramming IS the simplest form of destruction when your projectile can’t be damaged but had they been real weapons I’d imagine they’d have just lit up all the ships before they got there.

Agreed.

Or it just made a good ramming object.

Trisolarians: Jijijija Humans: Ji ji Jo jui

More likely a reference to a Prince Rupert's drop which is made of glass and incredibly resistant to damage.

...or just. You know. Physics? Humans. 🙄

😂

Cool story

Yea it was a pain to get through.

I really liked the second one. I listened to the audiobook and really liked the narration. Hoping for more in the series

Children of Memory will be spectacular. I wonder what eight legged sapient animal will feature this time.

The author is Chinese, so his family might have had first hand experience with Mao’s famine.

I assumed this would have happened centuries ago before researching. Was not expecting it to be so recent in 1959

My buddies fiancé is second generation Chinese, both parents survived the famine and escaped. We had all read the series recently and this was her take and mine as well.

The Great Ravine is an amazing synthesis of historical allegory, future portents and cosmic horror all in one

China made big mistake.This is also related to the US grain embargo against China. If China could buy grain internationally, this would not happen.

It is slow as molasses to start. People here complained about the second book being slow but at least you know what is going on.

Tbh I had the best time listening to this book series through audiobooks. I have ADHD and this book series replaced music for me for a while

Yeah I audiobooked it.amazing!!

I have adhd and had no problem reading this series. Try harder.

@@wobblecrash 'Neurodivergent' is not only ADHD and also includes many other conditions involving cognitive dysfunction which can share traits of ADHD and either way can benefit from having baseline engagement with material before committing to interaction with it. And there are multiple types of ADD. Not everyone is you. I'd say "good for you" but as you also seem to suffer from Rabbit Up My Ass Disorder [R-U-MAD], I'll leave it at "so sorry about that" instead. Try Less. Twit.

dark forest is also a scientific term.

@@bluezachary4118 which should be a no-brainer to any sci-fi fan

Yeah but the technology features of the fleet would be too exotic to be able to imagine by a human from earth

Same! I'm not a fan of super optimistic settings where all the aliens are friends so I liked TBP and 40k a lot.

I wonder the same thing, the animation for this video series is absolutely beautiful

Wow, my dude, I don't doubt in any way...... like at All, that this is ytsur favorite style of art. Further still, that this is actually your favorite piece(s) out of everything that you have and have seen so far. BUT DAMN Man, you began laying it on like.. Far Beyond Just "too thick"? I am not saying that to be insulting at all. I just keep getting dropped back into those Same Damn Memories today. Over and Over and Over and Over and Over and Over again!! Yet it tends to take off if you aren't calm, sincere, Honest with yourself Above All ( Which in Turn is like being Honest with God. As our own "Life Force Energy".. That Unnameable juice that is inside us all. That is our Essence, it is our Spirit, which is actually born of The Creator. A spark of His/Her DIVINE LIGHT, His Spirit Fire, The Holy Ghost, The Holy Divine Eternal Flame, The Clearlight of Existence .. Or The Source of ALL EXISTENCE, The Father, The Great Spirit...

@@blahblah6497 Username checks out

The title is based, but the series is the disgrace to all of the scientific community. It is an incoherent mumbling of somebody who have heard scientific words over the TV, having literally nothing based off real science with a lot of topics that are completely absurd from the viewpoint of modern physics

@@sirlight4954 I have not read 3BP but most sci-fi has at least a few invented space and pseudo physics jargons unique to the series and plenty are filled with the alternates science. What makes this stories use of it so egregious to you? Actually curious 🧐

@@sirlight4954 Its fiction, not a scientific essay…

It's called the Three Body Problem because the aliens are from a triple star system.

@@volcryndarkstar3283 I understood that to begin with from watching Quinn’s other videos, but I was suggesting that the title was referencing multiple things lol