LMAO

Intel CPU spokespeople be like

>Buys amd >Get's permabanned from gaming People buy intel and nvidia for quality of life and tranquillity. Interesting how the electricity bill doesn't come up when the reviews are about amd gpus.

@@Happiness-lp9fw driver got revoked and all people are being unbanned lol, plus that was valves issue not amds

​@@Happiness-lp9fwoh yeah because no one has ever brought up power draw of GPU's 🙄

13500 should be even better p/p after this. (I'm not bitter, i'm just sad i didn't wait).

Lols, this is such a fanboy response, 13th Gen is still a sucky generation no matter how you picture it, 40% more power for less performance than AMD and at a far higher cost, why would you except that you're a fanboy?

Yeah, so happy i waited. 8600k upgrade to 13 gen for me hahha

​@@SpyderTrackshe's talking about Intel

Higher memory speed good make sure us Asus ROG MB best experience

I still have my 10850k and yes it was a great value at the time. Basically just a low binned 10900k and set 100Mhz lower. My second core is a turd so I optimize around it and it's held up great. That being said from then to even 12th gen the performance has gone up quite a bit with the newer cpu's so I'm not surprised to see that slow down a bit between 13th and 14th gen

I’ve got a 4790k build powering my basement VR/ home entertainment setup. ten generations old now and still puts smiles on faces.

@@aarliann I still have two 4790K systems, first one is running for 9 years now. You can OC them to hell and back, but the only problem is, it's still just 4 cores. Still, pretty good for 1080 gaming when paired with a 980ti or 1080ti.

But for PC companies.. they need a yearly "NEW MODEL" to sell to people. Real world difference between a top-end 4-year old CPU and new one is minimal. Less heat, usually. I paid $350 for a used ThinkPad with a 6core intel CPU thats 4 years old. It's about 10~12% slower than the 2022 model which sold for $1800. With the bonus of not using USB-C as a charge port.

@@jsteezy80 With the 10850K, you still get your 4K/60 or 1440/120 at Ultra with Maxed sliders, right? I know i did with my 10900K, and so you do not need to upgrade. It's just a waste of your hard earned money. I run a 5800X3D with a 3090, and i don't need to upgrade. I actually dismantled my 10900K system to go full time with the 5800X3D. No need to upgrade bro. Save your money.

This was all leaked by MLID months ago xd. Not really news.Glad people are still observant though, can't let intel pool the wool over people's eyes just by calling it 14th gen lol.

Sounds about right

This 14th refresh is because Meteor Lake flops on desktop and wasn't really ready in time. OEMs are rushing out Phoenix Zen4 laptops. Anyway 12th gen had bugs, the Thread Director stuff wasn't working right and it needed Windows 11 so launched late after the 11th gen debacle. Adding Atom E-cores was already a desperate play brute forcing MT benchmarks with power consumption. Raptor Lake was a refinement on Alder, required to counter Zen4, fixing bugs and adding more Atom cores. Intel are trying to hang on, but Zen5 is starting to leak out now, OEMs are unimpressed by 14th and this means AMD launch a new architecture unopposed until Q4/24.

Bit of a stretch/giving them too much credit even with bad decisions.

Its because intel still haven't figured out how to manufacture using euv machines at economic viable yield

i would wait for 9000 series 7000 series is poor value and about to get its funeral and much needed price cuts

exactly. go pick whatever suit your need and pocket since sometimes amd cheaper and sometimes is intel cheaper. different places have different prices

same, hopefully they'll lower the 13900k bundle. Im looking at the 12900k rn but if the 13th gen becomes a better deal i might just do that.

13700k bundle just dropped $50

@@58longi just wish the 13700k bundle came with a better mobo...

Me too, I'll never buy Asus boards again after the RMA experience I had with them. Wish Microcenter would stop putting Asus in the bundles.

I have the 13700K and the 7900X. Bothare really good, but the 7900X is a beast

What resolution are you running with that 12900KF btw?

overclock the 13900KS and you have matched the 14900K or very very close to oc'ing is free (assuming you had a beefy cooler already, as you should for a 13900KS)

@@benjamind547 wouldn't CPU usage go down as the resolution goes up anyway?

@@MrVlodato Sure. But I mean if you're going to buy a 14900K / 13900K / 7950X or something like that, you're more than likely going to pair it with a 7900 XTX or a 4090. The reason I mention the resolution here is because it just seems like a waste of money to get those GPU's and play on anything less than 4K because there are more affordable/sensible purchases that work perfectly well with 1440p or even 1080p - 13600K, 14600K, 7600/7600X or even a 7800X3D for future proofing as it's not crazy expensive compared to a 13600K. The 7700/7700X doesn't really make any sense to me given that it's literally only £50 less than a 7800X3D atm.

My undervolted 13900ks has almost same multicore score as this 14900k. Reckon if I unleash it, remove the negative offset and increase LLC a bit, would beat it without a doubt

Exactly.

These guys likely sell their gifted samples (gifted meaning they get to keep those ones) on ebay after a while. Which is theirs to do as they please with, but i mention it just so everyone knows they do NOT need your 'donations' or for you to buy their grift merch to keep them going. Ad-rev is more than enough already.

​@@clitmintWait, businesses exist to make money?

​@@clitmintblud just learned what businesses do And you can buy their merch only if you want to lol, I bought from them and from other youtubers merch and it was pretty good (specifically the kvm switch I bought I just can't remember from who)

@@ExecratedPlaysGaming Businesses do exist to make money. I run 2, and take the occasional home-improvement jobs when they pop up, like fitting bathrooms/kitchens for example. However, business men/women asking for donations, are con-artist grifters. That's my point. They con you with their emotional pleading, then grift off the suckers who bought it.

@@twiistedpanda4781 Oh there's merch (stuff that's helpful and useful and is equal or less than other prices), and then there's grift merch which is overpriced stuff (good or bad) or junk, which is ALWAYS overpriced. You can tell which is which by comparing prices with other like-items on different stores. Like the Linus screwdriver BS, that's pure grift merch. Linus, and all these other big techtubers know, there's plenty of mindless lemming fanboys out there to soak money out of, and so the grift merh does well. Other types of grift merch would be the usual t-shirts, mugs, flasks, waterbottles, posters, keychains.

90 is bigger than 70, people are going to buy that one at the same price.

Are you gonna pair the 7800X3D with a GTX570 from the old system? 😅

Jokes aside, I still have a 3930K and a GTX580 in good running condition myself 😊

Hard to cool, and only for gaming.

@@Joeteck Patrick P. Gelsinger is that you?

@@yourfavoritelawnguy2722No. CEO and founder of JoeteckTips... But close..

14K in all bench marks is out performing the 13K by at least 20 FPS, this guy is a trendy pro AMD intel hater, he talked about AMD being a piece of shit basically because it can't handle memory but at the same time promotes AMD. Stick to your 14K it's a superior processor to AMD's trash lately and 13K, don't buy the crap real world talks.

​@@figureitoutpunkIntel 13th or 14th gen is just objectively worse than AMD's current gen. If you look at temps and power draw to performance, that is. Intel currently uses ridiculous amounts of power and overheats very fast

Don't know if you'll see this comment, but what are you using to cool your 14700k?

I'm using a H100i to cool mine. Still hits 100c during stress testing, but during gaming it runs fine.@@Stealthcastlandon

​@@figureitoutpunkyou don't know how comparisons work, the 14th gen has single percent uplifts, just agree with rest of us that Intel is just giving us a hotter chip for no performance upgrade. The 7800x3d beats every consumer cpu in gaming and 7950x beats every consumer cpu for productivity and efficiency. 14k is superior alright, superior trash.

Not at a $300 difference in price. This is just Intel trying to respond to AMD who at least has a use case for more cores but only one has the VRAM makes for some problems practically.

I'm on 6th gen. GTX 1070. Getting 60fps on low and some medium for Warhanmer Dark Tide. Good optimized games like Forza Horizon 5 run at 60fps Extreme.

@@Overlord277 good on you, keep it going as long as possible!

This matters a lot for someone like me who uses a computer all day in a home office. I traded in my color calibrated photo monitors and downgraded to LED panels just to save power and thus much much less heat in my room. Working or gaming in a sauna is no fun.

Typical fanboy that is having buyers remorse response right here hahaha

​@@iequalsnoobenjoy 300w power draw then lmao.

@@iequalsnoob - enjoy unlimited power draw from Gen 14 - 400w - rofl for that little bit of extra performance !

FYI, you can still find new 12th gen CPUs for sale which are $100 cheaper than the same tier of 13th/14th.

Get a 12th gen. It's more than enough if your building a gaming or editing PC. Mine is way more than I need paired with my 4070.

@@paddlesouth 12700k is my current processor

14900k is currently selling 30 dollars （canadian） more than the 13900k， maybe wait for a bit for the price to drop.

what a bad tip.. @@paddlesouth

Like Jay say if you don't have the 13th gen then it's okay for the upgrade. Not worth the upgrade from the 13th gen since it only gain a little performance. It's like buying a car. If the new model still using the same motor, it's not really an upgrade. It's just an update.

52 is just 4 beers haha

@@user-xl6yo5dr6p i dont drink alcohol so i rather buy cpus hahaha

Oh word? 7950x don’t fail me now

Woke up my 6700xt 😅 5900x is locked into all cores same speed stable. Guess I'm try and turn the cpu turbo back on and send it lol 😅

Which mobo? I just looked and see that my X670E-E got BIOS 1709 five days ago, so I'll have to try that. When I built my 7900X rig in February, my initial R23 benchmark was over 29000 (can't recall what BIOS version and the old ones are gone now), but subsequently I'd sometimes be as low as 27000s or low 28000s range depending on which EXPO setting I used. (EXPO I seems fastest for me.) Been on 1602 for two months but before that I had to use 1416 with SoC voltage manually locked at 1.25V cuz 1516 was so unstable that I would only successfully boot one in three or four times, Windows would get corrupted and require a Restore rollback, and it'd even freeze in BIOS. Just awful.

Same as you 670E-E

@@BrianTelleraineCarson Then you updated less than 5 days ago, not two weeks, but no biggie. Thanks for the tip.

sure you know what your talking about?

Lol it won't pull that in gaming, most likely 40w more in those loads

Oh you poor sweet summer child. I have some very bad news for you. There is ZERO improved DDR5 Stability. Its actually worse than 13th gen.

@@NinjAsylum Source? 14900k has 96 GB/s memory bandwidth 13900KS has 89.6 GB/s

it have problems like 2nd gen of amd cpu had with DDR4, system even wont boot so who cares about bandwidth@@shofla

I swear that's the reason why I stayed in DDR4 with my 13900K, but people still ask why I didn't went with DDR5 with today's price, STABILITY.

@@Dar1usz Again source? I haven't seen anything like that, and the CPU's have been available for only a few days.

Until more ARM CPUs come out, I'd say yes

I upgraded to the 5900x a year ago after running my 2600 into the ground😂 and I love it. I’ll upgrade to 8000 series in a couple years probably cause I’m not made of money either

well, if it was for gaming, you'd been way better off with a 5800x3d. like, a lot.

@@GraveUypo I know, but the 5900x was at the right price and will do what I require.

That is kind of where I am at right now with most things tech. Don't drop something for the sake of dropping it and repackaging half baked goods. I would prefer a 2 or 3 year gap between hardware drops versus every year on the dot. I told my gf no way she is getting an iphone 15 for this reason.

I am very much not "okay with that" tbh. 2010-2015 is when AMD was in a rut with their products and intel stagnated their releases even claiming that it wasn't possible to fit more than 4c8t on a consumer cpu (I hope we can all agree now that their claims were clearly false on this) we're leaving a period where we had competition and going back to a similar state to this. I'd rather have both companies fighting to improve their products, not one sitting on their ass without improving (currently amd) and the other so far behind that they are UNABLE to innovate past their competitor (intel) I really can't wrap my head round how the state of things can be seen as a positive tbh

@sk8er100100 I was more so meaning that I would be ok with 3 or 4 years of just efficiency improvements for power consumption and the like. We have had incremental improvements, but I think each of these companies doing a release every year just to release stuff needs to stop. They obviously need some time to produce real worth while improvements. Intel, AMD, Nvidia, all of them. All Nvidia did this last time was essentially give a slight power efficiency per core and then just through more on for the high-end gpus and cut cuda cores and other things for the lower end, and have essentially given nothing for better options to lower than mid high range cards. Amd kinda did the same, and Intels gpus are still having growing pains. What the industry needs now in a drive to keep its current power house peak, but get power consumption under control. Every industry needs a plato at some point to trully build a platform to launch a trully 'next gen' process

Next socket intel will give 1.2 gens, classic

@@yomiiiu Can't wait for Intel to give us a socket that changes mid-generation. So we'll have less than a whole generation for the single type of socket (and motherboard). At that point I'd be tempted to file suit against Intel for actively anti-consumer business practices, and violation of truth in advertisement laws (after obtaining legal counsel).

Thay never promised 3 gens, only 2. Meteor Lake was supposed to come out now on the new LGA1851 socket.

You can always wait for the next thing.... I still run the 9900ks at work and its a long way behind my 13900k / 13900ks systems at home.

When you're ready to build, just pull the trigger. There will always be something newer and faster coming out. If you're waiting at least 5 years between builds that means a new motherboard due to a cpu socket change anyway

You didn’t have to buy a 14th gen CPU to run MSFS at 60fps and edit videos. But I’m not going to bash you for making that decision. All the best with your new CPU.

I went from the 9900k to the 13900k and that upgrade was totally worth it. Something like 3x the performance. I'm sure that you will be thrilled with the 14900k.

Nice I also upgrade every 5 years and since mine was back in 2018 with the 9900k It was time to upgrade but I ended up getting the i9 13900KS, honestly the 14th gen not worth from the 13th gen so I will upgrade again in the next 4-5 years unless my system goes bad

Just got a 13700k from an 8600k and obviously a massive difference 😁

I have been running Pop-OS on my old 6700k, I like it a lot more than windows. There is a learning curve with Linux, but I am not going back to Windows. My cooling fans alone run near silent unless I load the system, couldn't ever say that with Windows. Going to see how it all works with my new machine once my last parts arrive and I can build it.

I’d have been on Linux a very long time ago if gaming on it was worth a damn but I’ve been largely disappointed with how much work it takes just even get it “barely playable” in my opinion. And lack of graphics card controls, without a ton of work? I’m good. I’ll just remove everything I don’t need from windows 11 as I’ve done since the start

I might end up dual-booting Windows 11 if any of the games I want to play are grossly incompatible with Linux, but I don't foresee myself daily-driving it. I hear the work that Valve has done on the Proton compatibility layer since the success of the Steam Deck has made Linux gaming much more seamless these days, @stevenmartin4889 .

Bro you can quit with the Windows 11 conspiracies. It's the same user experience and you can bypass the Microsoft account requirement.

@@davide4725 The fact that you can opt out of the advertising platform and data harvesting tools baked into Windows 11 by jumping through some annoying and unintuitive hoops in order to bypass the M$ account login IN NO WAY excuses the fact that it is, by default, an advertising platform and data harvesting tool. That isn't a conspiracy theory, it's the Microsoft business model.

AMD has had significant performance increase every generation of Ryzen. It can be done. Ryzen 8000 is currently expected to have 10%+ increase in IPC over Ryzen 7000. If AMD can do it then Intel has the $ to do it too.

Arrow lake is "supposed" to launch Q4 2024. I'm pretty sure it's a new socket but don't quote me. Look up Moore's law is dead videos on leaks for it

Not amd cpus

​@@NeVErseeNMeLikEDis amen to that my 7900x has been a dream

@@NeVErseeNMeLikEDis To be fair, that's last gen. 13th gen intel wasn't this bad of a generational uplift. 8000 series Ryzen CPUs, from the leaks, are looking bad too.

Nah 4090 is a beast best gpu I’ve ever owned

@DarkEnigma1115 if they turn out bad I'm sure it be aleast 10x better than this one , in gains that is.

Hardware unboxed and gamers nexus.

If you want that, Gamers Nexus is thataway. (Jay and Gamers Nexus are on good terms with each other).

that was my reasoning too. I just got a 14900k this week

I moved from an i7 4790K to an i5 13600K about a year ago and the difference is night and day. the 13600K will likely drop even further in price now the '14th' gen is out, I'd say try and grab a 13th gen bargain!

@@digitallabyrinth144 true and thank you for replying. I'll keep 13th gen in mind. I didn't really want to go that big as of yet though.

I am still on a 4770. Hard to wait much longer lol

Agreed. It's an infinity spinning wheel. The way is define a target setup and stick with it for a couple years. I've decided to upgrade to what's available today. The 2tb ssd (firecuda 530) is on the way.

both the 13 and 14th gen are sub par and shouldn't be bought. It's literally obsolete and wasteful.

Thanks so much for your business!