Mythology Expert Reviews Greek & Roman Mythology in Movies & TV (Part 2)

Mythology Expert Reviews Greek & Roman Mythology in Movies & TV (Part 2) | Vanity Fair

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Peter Meineck, Professor of Classics in the Modern World at New York University, is back to review more Greek and Roman mythology scenes from films and television including 'Aquaman,' 'Immortals,' 'Jason and the Argonauts,' 'Xena: Warrior Princess,' 'Troy' and 'Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters.'
00:00 Intro
00:09 'Aquaman'
02:07 'Immortals'
04:46 'Jason and the Argonauts'
06:45 'Xena: Warrior Princess'
08:03 'Troy'
09:13 'Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters'
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@franklesser5655 2 роки тому

What is entirely authentic in all movies is that in ancient Greece, Egypt and Rome they all spoke with an English accent.

@omniscientbeing4224 2 роки тому

well of course they did, how else were they supposed to record their dialogue? no one would be able to understand them otherwise. lol.

@colinp2238 2 роки тому

Al Murray will tell you why that is.

@bayupran 2 роки тому

It's not a coincidence because in ancient China, they also spoke English, as shown in Mulan.

@Xia-hu 2 роки тому

@@bayupran and in all the sci-fi movies, all the aliens speak english too.

@rooneye 2 роки тому

You mean speak the English LANGAUGE? lol An English accent would mean someone NOT speaking English. 😋

@akirebara 2 роки тому

I love Professor Meineck. The fact that he says he doesn't care about accuracy because it's Xena, that's lovely.

@mistermastermind528 2 роки тому

I was about to say the same thing. People at his level are usually perceived as purists but he strikes a balance between explaining the mythologies as they are and interpreting them beyond whether for expression, exploration, or entertainment.

@MrDshack 2 роки тому

Given his age, he probably would have been a teenage boy watching it first time round. Lucy Lawless' powers were strong on teenage boys! lol

@akirebara 2 роки тому

@@MrDshack I'm a woman and I absolutely LOVED Xena. I was about 9 or 10 when I would yell Xena's battle cry all over the playground. I love Lucy Lawless so much.

@cetterus Рік тому

He was being polite. It takes a lot of nerves but it can get you far. Like... making another episode on...games? If he spoke his mind without euphemisms- that would probably be adult content.

@willdavis3802 Рік тому

He also doesn't care about accuracy if it's a fact (if its something that is "important" - his words) should give you pause.

@goodusernamedoesntexi.. 2 роки тому

You missed something important . In many of Sophocles' writings , he has repeatedly stressed that Hector did not actually look like Eric Bana

@cleverusername9369 2 роки тому

You mean to tell me that ancient Trojans DIDN'T look like hunky Australians?? I don't believe a word of it. Next you'll be saying Menalaus wasn't a great lumbering Irishman.

@goodusernamedoesntexi.. 2 роки тому

@@cleverusername9369 what can I tell you my friend ..... i only go by the ancient written word which advises that Do Not Invest Your Trust In The Plot And The Characters When David Benioff Decides To Adapt And Butcher Someone Else's Literature .

@coe3408 2 роки тому

@@cleverusername9369 Trojans were indo-Europeans living in Asia Minor. They were probably Mediterranean looking like current greeks.

@AggelosKyriou 2 роки тому

As a Greek, I can assure you that Eric Bana could easily pass for a Greek or a modern Turk (=Greek+Armenian turncoat).

@denistuohy2535 2 роки тому

He did? I thought he EXPLICITLY wrote “Dude he so looked like Eric Bana”

@shaderunner8220 Рік тому

Very interesting how archery was seen as a cowards way to fight in Greek myths, but in Hindu myths, being a skillful archer was considered the highest and most honourable form of martial arts.

@user-kx4ls3no7x Рік тому

What? have you not heard of Heracles?

@shaderunner8220 Рік тому

@@user-kx4ls3no7x oh ya, Heracles and his battle with the hydra, where he used burning arrows. That is one of his greatest feat, though it often seems to get overshadowed by his other feats of strength. Are there any other examples of Greek heroes using bows? I know Odysseus had one.

@moffjerjerrod1579 Рік тому

Don’t forget, the bow was the primary weapon of the Samurai too.

@winklenator Рік тому

@@moffjerjerrod1579 ummm katana?

@Abraxxis Рік тому

@@winklenator Samurai fought primarily with the bow, then the spear, then with the sword. Katana was actually a side arm, only used for ritualistic purposes or as a last resort.

@visualistener 2 роки тому

If he hasn’t already, I think it would be fantastic if he reviewed Greek/Roman/Norse mythology in video games like God of War and Hades!

@Ilovepizza1010 2 роки тому

or smite

@cixelsyd40 2 роки тому

one of these channels has done that with different experts looking at one of the later God of War games. It was underwhelming as they gave the experts no context in what the story in the game was so there was a lot of confusion and misidentification.

@lucas-xf7rc 2 роки тому

Yes

@tjemilua3724 2 роки тому

Agreeeed

@abmong 2 роки тому

Norse mythology might be outside his expertise. Classics usually just covers ancient Greek and some Roman lit. When I was studying Class Civ at A-Levels many moons ago we only did Greek Tragedies; Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides. The Homeric Epics; Iliad and Odyssey, The only Roman lit was Virgil's Aeneid as a sort of bonus sequel to the Iliad.

@eros4434 2 роки тому

I’d love to hear his take on the story of Achilles and Patroclus!

@danniantagonist 2 роки тому

Just two bros, living their lives.....

@agentone8511 2 роки тому

woudlve rather hear about that or achilles' death than chariots

@eros4434 2 роки тому

@@danniantagonist they were roommates

@danniantagonist 2 роки тому

@@eros4434 🤣🤣🤣

@SnidgetAsphodel 2 роки тому

If you haven't read The Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller, do it. Such a great book.

@valerashan6050 2 роки тому

I'm glad Peter could come back for part 2. I hope part 3 isn't too far away.

@EatingThoseBeans 2 роки тому

I can excuse most inaccuracies in Troy, but I draw the line at Achilles being straight

@user-lc2jz5oo3z 2 роки тому

Achilles not being in a romantic relationship with Patroklos is not inaccurate in the slightest, there were no signs of any such relationship in the actual Iliad or Odyssey.

@zerionis 2 роки тому

@@user-lc2jz5oo3z keep telling yourself that bro

@user-lc2jz5oo3z 2 роки тому

@@zerionis I don't have to tell myself, the Iliad and Odyssey tell it for me. If you really disagree, would you be so kind as to give a citation to the opposite?

@zerionis 2 роки тому

@@user-lc2jz5oo3z he loved him more than his own life. Also that their bones are interred together. Shows a pretty deep bond, and judging by the commonality of homosexual relationships in the ancient world, it’s pretty likely. Will we ever really know? No, but to say there’s no signs whatsoever is just disingenuous.

@user-lc2jz5oo3z 2 роки тому

Sorry for the wall of text 😅

@beestings22 11 місяців тому

I’d love to see his reaction to the actual Percy Jackson books if he ever read them, I think they do an even better adaptation of the concepts and themes of the myths than the movies ever did

@AuthorZaraHoffman 28 днів тому

Agreed

@canaisyoung3601 22 дні тому

The streaming series is supposed to be better and more faithful to the books, I've heard.

@lordabdul 2 роки тому

Professor Meineck's review of Xena Warrior Princess is absolutely perfect.

@jessieGreyJedi Рік тому

right

@Tareltonlives 10 місяців тому

Like Disney's Hercules or Jason and the Argonauts it's not remotely accurate and very silly but it's so much fun.

@mPrigipas13 2 роки тому

I'm a bit disappointed that out of the entire movie of Troy, the problem was the chariots. The whole movie has about 20% mythological accuracy. Fun movie though :)

@xtxpxhx 2 роки тому

i think there was more in the first part...i mean, they probably didn't want to trash it, almost all of these movies share the same accuracy lol

@youngtoonfish6891 2 роки тому

The thing is that the director/producer of the movie wanted to get it a bit more realistic and cut out the whole heros, halfgods and actual gods battling. And yeah, that’s about 80% of the whole Iliad 😅 But yeah, it is a great movie nonetheless. If I want accuracy to the myths, I just read the Iliad 🤷🏼‍♀️😄

@Mastur_Bateman Рік тому

@@youngtoonfish6891 The film is made better by omitting most of the mythological aspects IMO... Reading the Iliad was one of the worst reading experiences I've ever had... nearly the entire book discusses military numbers and the relationships/allegiances/brief histories of the gods which made it a real slog (might as well look at a chart and read a Wikipedia article). On the other hand, the Odyssey was engaging and incorporated a good balance of narrative and mythology.

@youngtoonfish6891 Рік тому

@@Mastur_Bateman it is a hard read for sure, I enjoyed the Iliad, but that’s just me. The film did a really great job!

@AEB1066 Рік тому

@@Mastur_Bateman You forgot the page describing each warrior's weapons and armour in microscopic detail.

@dylantennant6594 2 роки тому

Little off topic, but I find it very interesting how their is kind of a dichotomy between Greek and Hindu heroism. In Hindu mythology, the bow is kind of the greatest weapon. The main characters of the two major Hindu epics, Rama (The Raymana) and Arjuna (The Mahabharata), both use bows as their main weapons. The Raymana even goes into great detail describing the very real strength it takes to string a bow. It makes me wonder how Alexander’s men and the people of the Hindu-kush reacted to each others cultures just by their heroes.

@h.mansari8802 Рік тому

Makes sense then tha of all the Greek imports, the Indians took most to Heracles, who is a master of the bow. I N T E R E S T I N G

@cv4809 Рік тому

@@h.mansari8802 since bow is one of the most generic and widespread weapons, it really isn't that jnteresting

@h.mansari8802 Рік тому

@@cv4809 The bow is about as ubiquitous as a sword or axe, and yet stories and myths about both are still very interesting.

@bartonbella3131 Рік тому

I can't remember which channel it was on but there was a great comparison between Indian Theology and Christian Theology. I mean really compelling. Personally I've always felt time was cyclical maybe more of a loop roller coaster, UP and Down, Round and Round lol

@AleskyMaxomovishPeshkov Рік тому

Sorry, a little off-topic but did Ashoka, the ancient Indian king supposedly have immortal soldiers who could also conjure giant flying "cities" or saucers?

@phoqueme 2 роки тому

Another thing about bows in Ancient Greece, it wasn't just considered dirty fighting but pretty much unmanly. It's one of the reasons why Paris was considered a coward and not manly enough, mainly cuz of his actions with Helen and his choice of the bow as a weapon, even though he was skilled with the bow.

@kamion53 2 роки тому

bows were also pretty much a Persian thing, in their invasion of Greece they had Scythian cavalery in their troops It also remarkeble that at the Temple of Aphia Paris was depicted as a Scythian archer.

@GeeBarone 2 роки тому

How do we take the association of heracles with a bow, or Odysseus and his test of strength with his bow?

@AleskyMaxomovishPeshkov Рік тому

@@GeeBarone yeah but they were used in practical settings: when they couldn't just walk over to something and beat it with a club or whatever like the Stymphalian birds or Helios

@abhinavbhattarai4714 2 роки тому

This man found something actually positive about the PJO movies, ya love to see it.

@1964QuietStorm 2 роки тому

In The Illiad Achilles was already dead when the Greeks sacked Troy. He was never in the Trojan Horse.

@wyvern723 Рік тому

Well, at least Xena/Heracles didn't depicted Hades as a devil. That's more accurate than a lot of Greek myth media.

@SparkleLuna77 Рік тому

Those Jason and the Argonauts skeletons scared the crap out of me as a child! I used to avoid cracks in the ground for years afterwards! 🤣

@snbks4ever 2 роки тому

Well nothing wrong with learning that I've pronounced Hydra wrong my whole life. Great video, more of this please

@ASMRDevourer 2 роки тому

@@abby5533 minor tower

@sarammauricio Рік тому

@@abby5533 I have good news to you: you haven't been pronouncing it wrong - both ways are correct!

@sarammauricio Рік тому

@Sean Brooks I mean, 'High-dra' is the correct English pronunciation, according to the OED. I believe Professor Meineck is just pronouncing it closer to the way the Greeks (and Romans, for that matter) would have said it.

@vamsterr Рік тому

I want a 2 hour per session series with this amazing man! All Day I could listen to him talk about mythology! Amazing speaker! I love the view of modern takes on ancient myths and that it's about the story and not about being supposedly accurate to some original version. Thanks for getting such an amazing person on the show!

@Ryanmanification 2 роки тому

Is there a part 3? This needs a part 3

@charlieflickinger7372 10 місяців тому

And then a part 4, 5, 6 and so on and so forth for the rest of his life. Please and thanksss!

@TheJimmyPig Рік тому

"You tell a great story and people actually believe it." - Every religion.

@tiyow 2 роки тому

MATE!! I LOVE THIS GUY, THANKS FOR HAVING HIM AGAIN

@Car_Fanatic 2 роки тому

Peter you are a true scholar. You talk with such confidence and ease. You are a role model historian/scholar/professor. Thank you for inviting him back. Vanity fair I like your content more than GQ who has a similar series. Much respect to you. I have never learned so much in your videos or GQs like this one. Really ty Peter for coming

@ashleylee2388 2 роки тому

I’m glad he brought up Atlantis I was blown away when I found out Plato was the only one who talks about it

@alimon89 2 роки тому

Totally mind blown on the Spartan commentary. I had never realized they were an unsustainable culture.

@HistorysRaven 2 роки тому

The biggest reason they became a militaristic society was due to the number of slaves in Sparta.

@juttamaier2111 Рік тому

Unsustainable for 400 years...

@ungurmikael 6 місяців тому

I'm amazed that of all the things to talk about in the Troy film he chose to talk about chariots

@silpheedpilot7 7 днів тому

I really love this expert because he's less concerned with pushing his glasses up and being like "well actually", and more interested in finding the essence of mythology in stories that may not be true to the "source".

@jemmpark 2 роки тому

quick, someone write more movies about greek and roman mythology so Peter can come back here and talk about them forever!!

@viriane7579 2 роки тому

Would be really keen to see Peter explain some Greek based video games. Assassins Creed Odyssey would be so cool since Kassandra’s story is a nice interpretation of demi gods. She’s a descendent of Leonidas and the powers you can unlock for her are very godlike. One quest even has a battle royal theme to it which is super intriguing. There’s also great expansions based on Persia and Atlantis. Also includes lots about Sparta and Athens in the main story line. And really interesting quests fighting Medusa, the Minotaur etc… I loved playing it!! Greek video games would be great for Peter to dig deeper into. I am so here for all the Greek mythology videos btw 🙌🏽

@griffionwyvrus9063 2 роки тому

This is why I love the Fate Franchise, though warning they mostly genderbent some famous characters. But some facts are actually fascinating, like the connection between the Greek Mythology and the Arthurian Legend because of the Trojan War and the Roman Empire, and the Leonidas being the descendant of the Great Hero Heracles who himself is a descendant of Perseusm

@B-A-L 2 роки тому

I'd like Peter to explain why there is even a female Spartan warrior in AC Odyssey in the first place!

@bytefu 2 роки тому

"Hades" is great too.

@chaitanyaraj8700 2 роки тому

I am so glad there is a part 2 now. Incredibly informative.

@HeSaidAFunnyGirl 2 роки тому

Cannot express how much I love Peter's breakdowns of mythology!!! Would love to see another installment :)

@chaneygolden3278 2 роки тому

absolutely love hearing this guy’s knowledge on the subject, keep bringing him back

@brightphoebus Рік тому

Xena's a great show with many mythological stories/references. Often campy, but also frequently deep and moving. Usually not as cheap looking as this clip. Great for pagans.

@Gabryal77 9 місяців тому

to bad Sorbo is sometimes in it. He's one of the worst actors in the history of film

@brightphoebus 9 місяців тому

@@Gabryal77 Oh. I don't know why you you say that. I enjoy his appearances. I have the episodes of Hercules where Xena's character was introduced. I find Iolas a bit irritating, but now and then you get some of the grist of his character as well. I guess Sorbo just grates on you for personal reasons. We all have those!

@G0DLIKE92 2 роки тому

I don’t care how much crap Troy gets it’s still one of my favorites! I still watch it 2-3 times a year. Brad Pitt as Achilles, Eric Bana as Hector, Brian Cox, Brendan Gleeson, everyone is perfectly casted imo. I wish that Sean Bean could’ve had a sequel for the Odyssey directed by Wolfgang again. I can dream lol

@stephencooper7459 2 роки тому

That's a good shout that. He's maybe bit old now but a younger bean would have perfect. 👍

@xtxpxhx 2 роки тому

even Orlando Bloom as Paris.. he's perfect for it

@JamesRDavenport 2 роки тому

When I first heard about Troy way back when, I thought "this sounds like a fan dream or Producer's Chair game movie pitch." Yet, it actually happened. And it was everything we thought it would be. The last of the Sword'n'Sandal Hollywood epics.

@stephencooper7459 2 роки тому

@@JamesRDavenport they did find evidence for it that's true. . interesting doc I watched years ago on ☺️

@BarryHart-xo1oy 4 місяці тому

I know what you mean-“Troy” is a lovely and moving film.

@tjemilua3724 2 роки тому

Omg yesss thank you for uploading a part two!!! I hope he’s back in the future!!

@andrewfernandez7410 Рік тому

I love his expertise and how he balanced it with respect for some of these works to kind of become their own thing.

@Car_Fanatic 2 роки тому

PETER WELCOME BACK YAY WE LOVE YOU💜. THANKS VANITY FOR BRINGING HIM BACK

@Car_Fanatic 2 роки тому

It's funny superman Henry C is so small muscle in this movie

@aeonspast 2 роки тому

So glad that yall brought Peter back. He is such a great host. Really enjoyed this one as well.

@ThingsWeSaidToday Рік тому

I adore him. He's got such great depth of knowledge but also has a very clear purpose in what he says in regards to the contemporary meaning of myths. it goes so far beyond nitpicking and instead demonstrates real relevancy.

@bnewman21 2 роки тому

LOVE listening to this guy talk! he must be a phenomenal professor.

@FloraWest Рік тому

I just was reading the comments in the Part 1 of this and some of his former students are in there saying exactly that.

@PatriciaHoferMsPattiMarc 2 роки тому

I love that he loves Xena: Warrior Princess!!! ❤️❤️❤️

@pibbles9 2 роки тому

Ooof. He said “we have the myth of the American dream” 😅😭 He’s not lying!

@ghinanaeem5723 2 роки тому

He knows Percy Jackson My day is made

@ajabell5058 10 місяців тому

This video and the previous one are fantastic. I could listen to Prof. Meineck speak all day. Incredibly informative.

@Beyondneon 2 роки тому

This is amazing - i hope to see more videos of him because i could listen to this forever!!

@frankjennings4489 2 роки тому

Of course the chariots were a callback to ancient warfare in Anatolia. That's not a maybe. Troy was in Anatolia and the Iliad was set in the bronze age when chariot warfare was the defining feature of battles in the Near East. I'm sure this guy knows that, probably just slipped his mind.

@ahriman935 2 роки тому

He clearly said that they should either have used only infantry or made it an all chariot fight, which is exactly on point. I think what he meant was to explain why the movie writers at all bothered with throwing a chariot here and there.

@frankjennings4489 2 роки тому

@@ahriman935 That would all be true. I just thought it was funny the way he said "Maybe this is calling back to x". It would be like watching Ford v Ferrari, and saying, "You know, I think this scene right here might be calling back to the feud between Ford and Ferrari in the sixties", as if it's that's not already obvious, especially for someone like him. I don't blame him though. Nobody's going to do an off-the-cuff commentary like this and execute it perfectly.

@jaymontealegre143 2 роки тому

Mythology Expert: A Hydra (Heedra) is a many headed creature that is associated with water. I, who’s been pronouncing it as “Hi-dra”: my whole life was a lie?

@estherowl8075 2 роки тому

yeah it's kinda heuuudra if you look at the Greek

@rubyb7252 2 роки тому

this entire time just listening to him properly pronounce the names and I'm like lol so that's how you say it😝😂

@PeloquinDavid 2 роки тому

English vowels have been a bit weird for a good number of centuries now (even compared to other Germanic languages). "EE-dra" is pretty much the classic Latinate pronunciation (i.e. how Romance languages pronounce it, more or less) and even modern Greek doesn't use the aspirated "h" - and hasn't for the better part of two millennia. Most people just pronounce the word in the conventional way of the language they speak today. Anything else just sounds a bit... well, pretentious?

@dimissgiaz5619 2 роки тому

in greek its pronounced eedra

@liamwashington6841 2 роки тому

In classical Greek it's closer to Hoo-dra

@bacul165 Рік тому

I'll forever be grateful to Xena and Hercules... In my final exam for my classics degree we got a Seneca play nobody had prepared for. Task included the question of later adaptations... And these series were enough to get me through! Apparently this prof isn't the only one who's got a soft spot for them.

@aimealvarez84 Рік тому

Love this guy! So positive so lovely. Thank you sir. You rock! Not tearing anyone down just positive vibes. He loves what he does and it shows.

@entsaga 2 роки тому

Thanks for the second part!!

@B-A-L 2 роки тому

Jason and the Argonauts is still the best Ancient Greek Myth movie ever made and the pinnacle of stop go motion thanks to the genius of Ray Harryhausen and it is still way better than the terrible remake of Clash of the Titans that proves CGI will never be better than proper special effects! Talos still sends shivers down my spine every time I watch the movie and those living skeletons are a masterpiece in stop go animation!

@derhak727 2 роки тому

Lets not forget the original clash of the titans with stop motion. I think i watched that everyday of my childhood

@B-A-L 2 роки тому

@@derhak727 Oh I didn't forget it but I don't think it was quite as good as Jason was. If I remember correctly it was also the last movie Ray Harryhausen ever worked on.

@leapintothewild 2 роки тому

I grew up watching the Sinbad movies in the 70s, wore out a VHS set of his movies, just freaking love Harryhausen!! Can't stand horror and gore, but give me a creepy rowing minotaur or a skeleton soldier any day.

@marleneg.7128 2 роки тому

Brilliant. I hope they can do more movies with him.

@fairdose 2 роки тому

Oh man! I would love to see Peter do a video discussion on just Ray Harryhausen films!

@PatriciaHoferMsPattiMarc 2 роки тому

Jason and the Argonauts will forever be one of my favourite movies! It scared the living daylights out of me when I was younger but I love it!

@OnkelAnne 2 роки тому

More of this please! He is amazing!

@b2ksflyhoney Рік тому

Please more of Peter!!! I adore his breakdowns!

@RoachOnAFennec 2 роки тому

This was awesome. Completed my morning coffee. Thank you so much.

@BRaion619 2 роки тому

Wow I just watched the previous episode yesterday and coincidentally, the new episode comes out today. Joy!

@icnocuicatl 2 роки тому

So glad he’s back for Part 2!

@nathanielming2067 2 роки тому

This is probably the best and fairest review of history in movies I’ve ever seen

@SinLord101 2 роки тому

Xena the Warrior Princess was indeed fantastic

@Ronariverah 2 роки тому

Xena is based on discovered scrolls written by some man called Gabrielle.

@jessieGreyJedi Рік тому

i am a xenite

@CMAlongi 2 роки тому

"I have no idea what that was, but it was fantastic." Me with all of mythology.

@everythingisawesome23 2 роки тому

When i saw the percy jackson movie sea of monsters, i tot he was gonna rip this movie to shreds( due to how inaccurate and horrible it was). However he kinda gave a new perspective on the stories. Really enjoy this episode.good job

@tadious9415 2 роки тому

Yeah I'm glad he mentioned the books since they did a far better job of showing love for the original myths while not being loyal to them still pulling a lot of those elements.

@nathanielwilcox4947 2 роки тому

He said they are not accurate to the myths, which is kind of untrue they mention the myths all the time Herakles fough this, and killed it this way, Odysseus ran into this and had to do this to get out of it. I think it could be argued they are quite accurate.

@tadious9415 2 роки тому

@@nathanielwilcox4947 Yeah that's true it is telling its own stories that are similar to the myths but different while being accurate to the original myths as things that happened in world history.

@itslilyquinn Рік тому

We don't really talk about the Peter Johnson movies. They didn't follow the plot of the book well, or get the personalities of the characters right either. The Percy Jackson books are meant to retell myths a bit to fit a more modern standpoint.

@AleskyMaxomovishPeshkov Рік тому

@@itslilyquinn AAnd pg as well, making the gods a little more decent than how they are portrayed in the myths and also giving demigod children to Athenea and Hades which is not at all accurate to these characters and in fact ruins there personalities: Hades , despite being the god of the Underworld was faithful to his wife Persephone and Athena is suppose to be a virgin; yeah, I know: the books give a crappy explanation to how it works Parrell with the Athena birth story (which doesnt make sense actually because Athena wasnt a virgin birth: her mother was Metis whom Zeus eatan to avoid a prophecy) but still

@Coxmazafaka 17 днів тому

Bring him back !!! we want more of these reviews - thank you in advance !

@adampatino5372 2 роки тому

I wish this fellow had his own UKposts channel. I would be his #1 subscriber

@tonkatze 2 роки тому

I could listen to this guy for hours, thanks for bringing him back

@chaislaw5014 2 роки тому

awesome hes back, everyone shld hear this guy speak on this topic.

@GravesLilDarkAngel 2 роки тому

So stoked just to see one of childhood favorites, Jason and th Argonauts get a decent reply.

@BrianGoldstein927 2 роки тому

I love his approach here! What a wonderful video!

@samliedtke 2 роки тому

THANK YOU for the first segment; so many people still believe Atlantis was real when it was clearly an allegorical storytelling device created by Plato.

@Sevren_ 2 роки тому

@@chillfollins Plato specifically gave the location of Atlantis. It’s not real, spoilers. If you reach hard enough you can make any point ig

@joeandorian7719 Рік тому

I like that this gentleman doesn't lambast these other stories. He instead explains why the originals are so important and then tells you some facts about them.

@bYAQUER 2 роки тому

I love Xena too. Also, please make a Part 3 and 4 and maybe 5,6,7,8,9,10? 🥺

@isaurak6693 Рік тому

I remember I used to be really into Greek and Roman mythology, so interesting

@crystuhIs 2 роки тому

we need more of him!!

@dinaosnaya3768 2 роки тому

YEEES I WAS WAITING FOR THIS

@meladkareme5851 2 роки тому

I havent even seen this video yet, but PETERS BACK!! So you have my like and my attention 👌🏽

@DeMistyBellinger-pv7yr 11 днів тому

I would like a Part 3, please.

@smkh2890 2 роки тому

That was great fun, thanks!

@Deadpixeleditz-mh2pn 2 роки тому

I love the accurate pronouncing of the names😇

@Plasticplas1 Рік тому

4:52 We studided this film as part of a classics on screen classics course. It was probably my favourite one.

@BelleShadow 2 роки тому

I need more of this and of professior Meineck!

@jadelu2191 25 днів тому

love this series!

@SD-ft5xj 2 роки тому

I love this man, he’s really good.

@ItsEricaBeyetch 2 роки тому

Why wouldn't they show a relevant scene of Xena? Like when Hades or Aphrodite or minotaur was depicted?

@sarat.1744 2 роки тому

Agreed. Or Ares or Athena. But hey, at least he said Xena was fantastic anyway. ✌

@dayziecakes 2 роки тому

This guy is my favourite of all your guests. I could listen to him for hours!

@akeyah921 7 місяців тому

I have to admit, the mythology videos are my favorite

@the2ndbestNameever 2 роки тому

Excellence, keep this series going

@TheAbstruseOne 2 роки тому

"Myths are the most relevant things because facts can be debated, interpreted, and argued over. But if you tell a story...you're trying to communicate something important to that person." I'm just going to assume that Professor Meineck has never been on the internet a day in his life if he thinks people don't argue over the meaning behind stories.

@rootkite 2 роки тому

He's also missing the point that he himself is telling the common story that "Atlantis [or something like it] wasn't real" -- despite probably not giving ancient sources credence or searching every cubic km of the Atlantic Ocean to prove said story. The professor's knowledge and analysis are top notch, but he also clearly feels quite alright about claiming something about prehistory that cannot at present be disproven. Not surprising, but it's still a slightly depressing attitude. In my mind, a good scientist is always agnostic about the seemingly impossible or improbable.

@TheAbstruseOne 2 роки тому

@@rootkite The "ancient source" was a second-hand account of a story Socrates claims he heard at a dinner party as written by Plato which was an allegory for the ethics of a society and culture that wasn't meant to be taken literally in the first place. While we have not searched every single cubic kilometer of the Atlantic Ocean, we have mapped enough of the ocean to know there was not a sunken city-state the size of Texas hiding down there. There is not and never was an Atlantis. Also, aliens did not build anything on Earth, orichalcum was either misidentified bronze or platinum, and the Bermuda Triangle only has a bunch of plane crashes and shipwrecks because it's a high traffic area so of course it has more accidents than other places.

@rootkite 2 роки тому

@@TheAbstruseOne Thanks for the reply. I recognize that you have also already made up your mind, and I respect that :) I guess I personally feel that I don't know enough about prehistoric civilizations or modern investigative methods to relinquish my doubt, so I feel obliged to give all takes a chance, including but not limited to the official one. This thought process of mine isn't limited to seemingly paranormal or invented topics. If I believe in anything related to this reasoning as such, it's that we have very likely forgotten a great deal about our past as a species.

@TheAbstruseOne 2 роки тому

@@rootkite So you say *I* have already made up my mind while at the same time admitting that you "don't know enough" yet refute the conclusion of every single non-tinfoil-hat-wearing expert in the field?

@rootkite 2 роки тому

@@TheAbstruseOne Sure :) I haven't refuted anything or even tried to, and I'm not here to argue, and I'm not trying to sell you anything. All I'm saying is I find open-mindedness important (but that the brain shouldn't fall out either, as Sagan put it). Maybe I didn't like the professor's turn of phrase in this video, that's all; it isn't hard to tack on an "as far as we know" to the end of a sentence. But I immediately regret replying at all :D All the best.

@LetstakeaSidebar Рік тому

If he doesn’t tell us that Patroclus and Achilles were lovers, I’m gonna be emotionally compromised

@hekatenone3234 2 роки тому

really weird at the end where he kept talking about a 'percy jackson movie'? and the space where they were supposedly showing the scene was just empty? (also, yes, totally agree that PJ's take on the myths not being entirely accurate is often kind of point. they go through the motions and history repeats itself, but at the same time the setting has changed so much that it can't be identical)

@nathanielwilcox4947 2 роки тому

What movies? While the setting is diffrent osvioysly they reference the myths a lot. Annabeth give Percy (and us the audience), contexts to the myths: oh hey Herakles fought the Stymphalion birds and defeated them witth brass bells that sort of thing. While the setting changes thry still give atleast a decent t understanding of Greek Mythology.

@LunarPriestessYT 2 роки тому

Part 3? He's awesome

@dananabread6632 2 роки тому

incredible video!

@taniaABal Рік тому

we need more of him

@lawrencealcantara Місяць тому

as someone who did archery, that Immortals bow is a modern recurve, complete with the sight mount and i found it super funny and broke immersion XD

@Livi121499 2 роки тому

I think i’ve fallen in love w this man

@Jeskrist5 2 роки тому

Xena was the bomb in the 90s. Y'all need to watch

@loveya_courtney Місяць тому

I would love to listen to him talk about this topic all day. If I attended the university, he would be my favorite teacher.

@mushfiquefahim141 2 роки тому

I don't know why people need to pretend that Troy isn't a fantastic, thoroughly enjoyable film.

@Mastur_Bateman Рік тому

Mythology snobs who enjoy heavily fantasized depictions I would presume? ... I believe that "Troy" turns a relatively boring book into an engaging film.