Why Does Celeste Feel So Good to Play?
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Celeste is one of the most satisfying platformers released in recent memory. And a big part of that is due to the tight and responsive controls of the gameβs main character: Madeline. In this video, letβs look at how designers Maddy Thorson (Matt at the time of recording the video) and Noel Berry made the hero of Celeste feel so good to play.
=== Sources and Resources ===
More info on my run and jump graphs | GMTK Patreon
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Full Maddy and Noel interview | GMTK Patreon (Paid content)
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Celeste Player Code | GitHub
github.com/NoelFB/Celeste/tre...
Celeste | Speedrun.com
www.speedrun.com/Celeste
Celesteβs stamina mechanic. explained | Reddit
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Why Celesteβs dash feels great | Rock Paper Shotgun
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TowerFall Physics | Maddy Thorson
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Celeste Developer Commentary Livestream | Maddy Thorson
β’ Celeste Developer Comm...
Level Design Workshop: Designing Celeste | GDC
β’ Level Design Workshop:...
Celeste's Movement | Mix and Jam
β’ Recreating Celeste's M...
=== Chapters ===
00:00 - Intro
01:28 - The Run
03:08 - The Jump
04:46 - Other Factors
05:14 - How Celeste was Coded
06:21 - The Climb
07:00 - The Dash
07:44 - Platforming as Problem Solving
08:40 - Art and Animation
09:27 - Player Forgiveness
11:50 - Speedrunning Celeste
13:20 - Level Design
15:23 - Conclusion
16:28 - Patreon Credits
=== Games Shown ===
Super Meat Boy (2010)
LittleBigPlanet (2008)
The Swindle (2015)
Bubsy: The Woolies Strike Back (2017)
The End Is Nigh (2017)
Celeste (2018)
New Super Mario Bros. U (2012)
Mega Man 11 (2018)
Super Mario Bros. 3 (1988)
Shovel Knight (2014)
Unravel (2016)
Sonic Mania (2017)
Nuclear Throne (2015)
Super Mario Sunshine (2002)
Inside (2016)
N++ (2015)
=== Credits ===
Celeste soundtrack - Lena Raine (radicaldreamland.bandcamp.com...)
2D Platformer Character Controller - Scripting Gravity | Unity
β’ 2D Platformer Characte...
Celeste All B-Sides Speedrun in 26:46 | TGH
β’ Celeste All B-Sides Sp...
Looney Tunes Β© Warner Bros
=== Subtitles ===
Contribute translated subtitles - amara.org/v/C3BEJ/
@GMTK 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Like this video, and wish you could actually try out different movement mechanics? I've made an interactive video essay, called Platformer Toolkit, where you all full control over a character's jump height, move speed, coyote time, and more. Check it out - ukposts.info/have/v-deo/soeaZKCenp54xH0.html Also, a quick note that Matt Thorson now goes by Maddy Thorson. Iβve updated the description, but unfortunately canβt change the video itself. More info can be found here: maddythorson.medium.com/is-madeline-canonically-trans-4277ece02e40
@reedg6836 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Came here just to comment that, great job keeping up on updating quickly!
@alranican 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Wow. Huge props for adding that little update. Didnβt expect to see one this quick, or at all if Iβm being honest.
@beesree39 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
oh my gosh this proves you're an amazing content creator. most people wouldn't look back
@leahbeah1585 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thank you for doing that! Real happy for them.
@semidecent4395 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Wow thatβs a really considerate addition to this video! Not only showing support for the lgbtq+ community, but also taking the time to update old information. Thatβs not pandering, thatβs showing genuine care
@fartakin 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Fun fact: Madeline's hair uses procedural animation, meaning it's animated via code as the player moves, hence why it's so smooth
@lucasgill7819 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yeah, you can actually see part of the code for the hair in 1:03
@54114142 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I was just wondering how they did it. Thanks!
@rootwayder77 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
procedural animations are always cool.
@OGraodoPao 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I tried recreating it, I wasn't able to unfortunately
@tygutowski 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@OGraodoPao i managed to make a really shitty version, im sure if i cared more and took more time i could make it better
@bradykoba5457 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
βWhy does Celeste feel so good to play?β Me on 1.8k deaths on chapter 9 slowly contemplating the reason of why life exists and if itβs all worth ir
@tonuka6257 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
You got it?
@bradykoba5457 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@tonuka6257 I did beat it eventually after like 12 hours of playtime
@VictorLHouette 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
That one level probably doubled my play time of the whole game!! I frequently go back and replay the first 7 levels whenever I get bored or have a few minutes to kill, but I'm not sure I can put myself through chapter 9 again...
@plexquared1877 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
me with 7557 deaths on chapter 9 ready to attempt the moon strawberry
@kierankavanagh5876 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@plexquared1877 if you havenβt already I wish you good luck sir, I attempted moonberry right after I beat it, the room competed with summit c side in difficulty
@ajavisk 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I have never once felt angry while dying in Celeste. The respawn time being super fast + the music not stopping when you die. Dying in Super Mario Maker makes me angry because of that stupid "oh no", the music stopping completely, and the sound effect for death all make it frustring. In Celeste you don't even feel like you died
@niesmiayhipopotam692 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Right? Like there's so much room for trying and learning!
@mitchellepstein9956 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I have but not at the game. The game is fine Iβm angry at myself
@otame4771 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
It's like Geometry Dash except that Geometry Dash restarts the music and you had to start all the way from the beginning unless you turned on checkpoints I got tired of GD but never once for Celeste...
@bait5257 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yup
@thecupcakehey1608 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I get angry, but only when I die from joy-con drift (which happens much more than you might think)
@pong5734 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
"I pulled apart the games's code" *shows exclusively the hair physics*
@orisimo 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I think the speed/time graphs are actually incorrect. Those slopes should be straight - who on Earth applies differential acceleration?
@alvinbontuyan8083 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@orisimo That is a graph of velocity not acceleration
@alexsiemers7898 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@alvinbontuyan8083 but if the acceleration is constant, the slope of the velocity should be a straight line
@alvinbontuyan8083 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@alexsiemers7898 yea thats true. Maybe acceleration isnt constant idk
@getaround1276 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
he only showed the important stuff
@LucianoThePig 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Celeste is maybe the most fair game I've ever played. You die after one hit, and you die frequently, but you respawn almost instantly, there's no harsh plenary to dying and checkpoints are frequent.
@gimmedataids 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The instant respawn is HUGE. Its an absolute must for a hard platformer like this
@insaincaldo 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Also the assist mode which there is also a video about here.
@MindinViolet 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
It is very challenging, but always fun and never frustrating, which is a remarkable achievement.
@raspberry_picker395 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
except when that pragmatic part of madeline chases you. theres like 4-5 rooms without a checkpoint and 2 difficult jumps at the end with everything else being super easy, that was so damn frustrating for me because you need to spend extra 20 secs to get to the hard part and practice it so its like 25 seconds always + when you nail the first one theres the second one and its just so annoying. source: finished chapter 2 today
@cirnocard5710 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@raspberry_picker395 Don't worry, you'll only get better. Trust me, after you beat the game, replay the earlier chapters and it'll be much easier
@Platitudinous9000 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The empty room thing is critical! It's like how Mario 64 was designed with fun and expressive 3D movement first and its iconic worlds afterward.
@variousthings6470 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
One of Halo's developers (Jaime Greisemer, I think?) has told the story of how they spent a long time playing around with the Warthog jeep in empty environments, to make sure they got the feel of the turning rate and the fishtail steering as satisfying as possible. He also said that he kept doing this even after it was finalised, to make sure he reinforced to himself the feeling of something they'd been successful in making "fun". This was so that he could tell if they made a change that somehow affected the feel and broke it, making it less fun (e.g. going from one game to its sequel). He's also talked about how they applied that process to other elements, like the number of frames of delay between a controller trigger press and the sniper rifle gunshot animation.
@TheSami12345677 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
A true hidden gem
@clashcastle1078 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Currently working on a platformer character controller and I'll definitely cherish this point
@NicholasLaRosa0496 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
In both 64 and Sunshine, it was so fun just doing backflips and jumping.
@KairuHakubi 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
maybe it's because I played Sunshine first, but 64 did NOT feel fun to me haha
@homemadefilms5718 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
One of my favorite moments was on the last level of farewell, where the game literally checks in on you and basically says βAre you ok?β It was very encouraging
@scoutscode1122 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yes 100%! I was so annoyed at myself but it all vanished after that
@theiaraine 11 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
that's what made me finish the level
@Angelic234 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
One of the best things in Celeste is that every death feels like your fault. The game is so responsive that it's hard to blame the controls or the level design
@bait5257 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yeah I hardly even found 1 death where it's game's fault
@connorconnor2421 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
You poor, innocent soul. You've never heard of controller drift.
@sunnyp6982 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
have you played chapter twos b-side
@DerpyPotato-cf8qh 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Unless your playing with controller drift.
@misterlion4700 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@DerpyPotato-cf8qh but that's not the game's or controls' problem, that's the controller
@GameScoreFanfare 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Mark, I honestly think this is one of the best videos you've made to date. You've approached the topic from every angle and yet kept it so tight and flowing beautifully. Your graphics are on point as always, only ever bringing clarity to what you say. Particularly in the section about jumps with the graphs and examples underneath, and the outlines showing the height of the jump. And also I have been really appreciating the amount of effort you're putting into your audio design recently, but you totally upped the ante in this vid. The low-pass filter on the music when you transition to the interview so you can hear it better, the little in-key piano notes that accentuate your titles, how you use the end of chapter jingle at the end of a section before moving onto a new point. Honestly it's just superb work, you're an absolute inspiration and a boon for the entire video essay community. Thank you for putting in the amount of effort you do.
@GMTK 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Oh Mathew, you're a charmer ;) Thank you!
@duchi882 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
You two are breathtaking
@future3k832 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@GMTK I'm inclined to agree, that was one of the best videos on youtube I've watched in a long time and the 17 min hardly lasted.
@ntt996 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Duchi YOU are breathtaking
@Hepyrian 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Damn Mat you beat me to making this comment!
@NoodleIncidental 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
When comparing Madeline's jump height and curve to Meat Boy's and Mario's, I think it's better to think of her jump as half of her aerial mobility, with the dash being the other half. The jump arcs for Mario and Meat Boy are higher because that's the only tool they have to gain height and/or cover distance, and they work just as well for their respective games.
@TheOriginalDogLP 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Mario has depending of the powerup and the game he is in a lot more tools for aerial movement. I think if you're talking about basic player movements like running and jumping it makes sense to leave out dash/double-jump/wall-jump etc. for a bit.
@tonuka6257 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yeah, Super Meat Boy was a creative game and still one of my favourite jumpnrunners ever, but it was also a traditional game. Sprinting was a mechanic every game had back then, even though they didn't always need to. Super meat boy would have you sprint nearly 24/7 anyways. Celeste took that and replaced with a more versatile mechanic, the dash, which you're forced to manage much more closely than the sprint.
@randomguyontheinternet7940 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@TheOriginalDogLP Those are expansions much like the double jump Celeste achieves later on.
@Aztonio Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
At this point it was more about the feelings from the character itself, like not too realitic nor too unintuitive.
@dawsonglawe5810 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Biggest flex in video games was when that bird freezes time as you're about to fall to your death just to say "Oh yeah by the way, you can do this."
@dylanr4854 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Why 1 reply
@miaucat815 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Wait 2 Replys
@monke1295 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Why 4 replies?
@lennylenny5871 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Why 5 replies?
@connorconnor2421 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Why 6 replies?
@zigzagas1000 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
yo. Is it only me who is almost brought to tears every time the chapter ends and the music starts with a nice story picture? Honestly, its the music that is the most powerful at that moment.
@elliebingo 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
definitely not just you, the art is beautiful and the music feels so relaxing and welcoming. Like a hug "you did it, you beat the level. You won"
@purevessle2641 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Especially at the summit and in farewell
@arvindhmani06 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
And the story is perhaps the most heart-rending ones in any game I've played. More so when you realize Madeline is a representation of the inner demons Matt himself was facing.
@alifaan595 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
not at all, it's incredibly beautiful and so moving. it's amazing
@NoNameX_X0 3 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I agree, the music is honestly one of the best in Celeste. The person who made it is "Lena Raine" who also made "Pigstep" in Minecraft.
@fakeronjan 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
What a masterpiece of a video about a masterpiece of a game. I love deconstructions like this. I'll never forget the final climb in Celeste. The final few checkpoints when your heart is pounding and you're almost there - no game in years has made me feel that way.
@jacobdelgado3031 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
There are games you sometimes play that leave you with a bittersweet feeling. Sad to complete, but happy to have had the opportunity to play and beat it; a feeling of what-do-I-do-now after you've completed them that is almost empty. Celeste and BotW were both of those games for me in recent years. The mood, atmosphere, music, controls, frustration at times and ending moments are something I wish I could have back because no amount of replays will ever do that for me again. And I'm very thankful for both of them.
@jacobdelgado3031 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
FuzzzWuzzz so the game is difficult, but itβs manageable. The levels are broken into smaller sections (think of Zelda 1) where Iβd you die you only go back a little bit. You also have infinite lives. I suck at games and was able to complete it. Itβs not really rogue like at all. I played this almost non stop when I got it.
@electrum5579 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@FluffyBunniesOnFire I played Celeste after completing the Path of Pain twice (once on PC, another time around a year later on Switch), the only times Celeste felt close to the grindy, drawn-out feeling that the final room of PoP had (this feeling only applied to the first time) were on the final rooms of the Summit and Core C-sides, and even then they didn't feel _that_ close because I had already gotten gud through Path of Pain as well as all of Celeste
@isisyanqi 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@jacobdelgado3031 what is botw?
@alanmatkovic3221 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Isis Ng Black Odeus: Wings of Time
@Shlooomth 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I found Celeste to be a surprisingly emotionally deep game. I saw a lot of mechanics as metaphors that complimented the game's story themes. I thoroughly love this game.
@PrincessFelicie 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Celeste is a masterpiece of ludonarrative harmony. There is no game that made me feel something as abstract as perseverance as much as Celeste. That doesn't mean there isn't games I have persevered through before, but this is one where it truly felt like something tangible, like it was the *point,* the _lesson the game was trying to teach me._
@LawalMuhammad 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@PrincessFelicie Ludonarrative (noun): The intersection in a video game of ludic (gameplay) elements and narrative elements. The two circles (gameplay and narrative) on the Venn diagram just sit right on top of each other.
@Exsulator2 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Please explain the metaphors, I haven't played it but really want to know what you thought
@summerycast7936 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Not Straight Very Gay Catgirl I agree! Celeste is excellent at what it sets out to do! In contrast, it is similar to "Getting Over It", but god GOI is a far more frustrating game to master. And the message is shoved into you each time you fail.
@LawalMuhammad 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@Exsulator2 without giving spoilers, you the player struggle with repeated attempts to progress through levels, whilst mirroring the same struggle that Celeste goes through on the mountain. You the player go on the same journey as Celeste. struggle > self-doubt > persistence > determination > ?
@SeniorLuther 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I have never played a game that felt so satisfying and rewarding. I didn't even feel discouraged after dying. It respawns so fast that all you can do is take note of your mistakes and adjust. Once you finally get past a difficult section it's hard not to smile and feel good.
@desuordie4856 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yeah it takes a huge number of failures for me to get frustrated in celeste
@DarkD33p 6 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yes. I was about to write the same.
@PushedToInsanity 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Quality video. Especially with the clips from the developers
@equation1321 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Ayo
@mathiasjensen2841 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I remember reading about Cyote time in Ralph Kosters "Theory of Fun", and that book is from 2003, so the term has been around a while :)
@MisterAppleEsq 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
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@ethankennan212 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I also heard that term in one of Snoman Gamingβs videos.
@insaincaldo 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
No idea when it was adopted into game talk, but yah it's been around.
@CERTAIND00M 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I first read it in GamePro, circa 1997. So we're narrowing it down...
@JeroenZM 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I believe the DKC trilogy had similar airtime
@pijays 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
So you are saying that this game makes you FEEL like Madeline.
@leebard9335 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
You made me FEEL like I was reading a comment.
@kobinpaizlimona9088 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I don't now if i hate you or i like you for writing this
@HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I donβt get it
@Bengy. 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Really makes you *feel* like Madeline.
@MisterAppleEsq 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@HaydenTheEeeeeeeeevilEukaryote Lots of reviews for Spiderman PS4 said that it made you *feel* like Spiderman. Then memes.
@bucketofcalzones457 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Dying feels good in Celeste which could be its own video. On maps with moving parts, the map is almost always timed so that with every respawn you donβt need to wait to try your next attempt. Itβs almost always best to get started immediately, keeping you engaged. The game says to be proud of your deaths, and making death feel like itβs helping you by showing the timing really pushes that philosophy.
@SwainixFPV Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I've had one screen in chap 9 with like 250 deaths, where I had to wait each time and that was annoying, but it's also the only occurence I can think of until now (halfway through chap 9 I think), closing in on 6k deaths lol (my bad for skipping accidentally skipping the barrier of chap 9 tho)
@Maxler5795 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
fun fact: madelines hair actually turns light blue, which in Spanish is "celeste".
@niesmiayhipopotam692 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
ooohhh
@stellanovaluna 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Me who is learning Spanish: Β‘Azul, cian, y azul claro! EDIT: Just learned Celeste is indeed light blue in Spanish Iβm dumb lol
@stellanovaluna 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Lol nvm thatβs another word for light blue in Spanish Iβm dumb π
@Zack-bl2gg 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Actually Celeste means heavenly in Spanish, not light blue. Edit: I am stupid. Celeste is heavenly in latin not spanish. I took more latin than Spanish haha
@stellanovaluna 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@Zack-bl2gg Iβm learning Spanish, and it does indeed mean βlight blueβ
@Zodiacman16 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I just want to point out at 5:15 when mentioning how the game was coded, this does not mean that Unity, GameMaker, or similar game engines can't achieve this. You can simply hard code your player's movement to get the precision you need and avoid the built-in features the engine provides to you. I'm sure Mark didn't mean to imply this, but it's worth pointing out in case it gets taken the wrong way. Please don't watch this section and think you NEED to use XNA to make a good platformer, that's straight up false.
@Tiernan422 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I use GameMaker and I donβt think anybody actually uses the built in physics
@marc.lepage 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This is correct, you can avoid using the built-in physics in just about any of the engines.
@akj7 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The problem is, this leads the devs to be reliant on the game engines they are using. So now instead of finding creative, new or peculiar ways to write your games, the devs use what is already provided to them.
@pog1635 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@akj7 I think what he is saying is that you can still use game engines to have platformers, not that you should always use game engines built in physics
@louisgreenland4446 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I like XNA/Monogame like frameworks because it gives you complete control over everything, even down to camera Matrixes. It just provides some OpenGL wrappers in C# to make it easier to draw sprites and set up the window, rest of it is entirely down to you.
@StopChangingUsernamesYouTube 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I've called many platformers' mechanics "(un)forgiving", but Celeste's bonk/jump mechanics are just plain considerate.
@joychapman9228 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
But the wind stuff SUCKS.
@PlayerN101 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@joychapman9228 Very
@PriorityFire 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Right?? Like the levels are hard, but it's still so obvious that the developers really want you to succeed. And this is expressed not only via the character dialogue, but via the mechanics themselves. I appreciate the devs so much.
@PlayerN101 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@PriorityFire They don't even judge you for using assist mode
@godofdeath8785 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@PriorityFire yeah devs amazing like and their wonderful game Celesteπ
@Ani 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I've just finished the A side of the first 7 chapters and instantly came back to re-watch this video with more context - and I'm enjoying seeing some half-formed thoughts I had while playing the game being so elegantly put by Mark. Great video! :D
@KaidaMizu 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I'm usually not keen on challenging puzzle platformers that rely on finessing a character but Celeste is an exception. I think the biggest reason is you aren't really punished for dying, you get put back to the start of the room and that's fine. There's no lives that you eventually lose and have to restart the chapter and you respawn almost instantly. It always felt like just as I was about to give up I'd see myself improve just a bit and it filled me with confidence. Also I love that they offered so much accessibility my mum has arthritis and bad eye sight but loves games so it's awesome when they offer ways to customise the game to make it playable for everyone.
@stellanovaluna 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Assist mode was a stroke of genius.
@DarylTalksGames 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
About time we got a proper GMTK on Celeste, such a spectacular game and the video is tremendously done as always :)
@fungalcactus8286 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
There's also an episode on the assist mode.
@GMTK 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
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@smithberns7862 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
love it keep it up
@pieterpauwels548 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I've been a patreon for a decent while now and I haven't regretted it a bit. your video's are always on point and it's always nice to see you checking in with your fans on the discord. the occasinal extra content like editing tutotrials, reading lists, playlists and interviews don't hurt either.
@Luramare 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
My only complaint was the lack of acknowledgement towards dynamic jump height, e.i shorter press = shorter jump. Getting this right really separates the good platformers from the best.
@K38Media 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thank you for doing what you do! It has really helped me, even as a generic software developer, when looking at how my software interacts with users and to think about their experiences with it on more than a "Does it work?" level. Look forward to your future work!
@ownerbynight5980 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Excellent video Mark, it reminded me of the exhaustive list of advanced movement techniques in Super Smash bros. Melee. There are not many videos examining the exceptional movement in that game - it'd be a real pleasure to see you take a stab at that.
@StrabbyStrabby 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Knowing that yes, the jump presses are buffered if you miss the command by a few seconds, feels so good. Often in meatboy, or even Hollow Knight in some cases, I'll feel like I've definitely hit the ground, press a, then beeline into a pit of spikes. There's a certain few frames of meatboy's landing sprite that really make it seem like he has already landed, and it bugs me a bit. The devs really did think of everything!
@unr4g3ux37 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
One passage I loved is the part where uh... spoiler alert. The part where you reconcile with Badeline, and you unlock double dash. The area you are in at the time as no dangers, no obstacles, is large with a lot of space, a recompense after the tough part. You are extremely free of your movement and its amazingly satisfying to just... play with Madeline.
@masela01 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
madeline reconciles with badeline and together they become a double-dashed chadeline
@theiaraine 11 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@masela01 poetic
@masela01 11 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@theiaraine mmmmedlyne
@waytoobiased 10 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
something something trans allegory
@nightkobun 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Liked for mentioning input buffering.
@dddmemaybe 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Just don't buffer air control usually lol! It will easily defeat the point and make it incredibly frustrating and confusing to boot.
@benjaminshields9421 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
And then theres nintendo. They went from none in melee to having too wide a buffer in ult
@Triffyrose 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Finally, even more content from Mark. That editing though, it's great. Especially that Celeste screen transition.
@Megacooltommydee 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Nice profile!
@Triffyrose 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@Megacooltommydee Hey, thanks!
@Sir_Duckyweather 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I've always wondered if Mark does the editing himself or if he commissions others for that. I know some channels are "one man shows," but typically those are unable to upload content very often. Big channels, especially ones that upload more than once a month and with high quality editing, often pay others to do editing, research, or anything else that might save some time. There's nothing in the video description to credit any commission work, but they aren't always under obligation to list them either, so it could go either way.
@KyleJMitchell 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@Sir_Duckyweather I've been surprised by how well-done GMTK videos are, but somehow I'm much less surprised when I found out that Mark was previously a gaming journalist. He very well might contract out some parts of the process, but I'd bet that he doesn't need to. He had already developed an eye for good messages *and* how to deliver them with as little friction as possible before starting the channel. That's the kind of skill that good journalists hone; they have to learn to be nonfiction storytellers.
@Sir_Duckyweather 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
For anyone curious, I've been told by Mark himself in another comment section that he does indeed do his own video editing. Most impressive if I do say so myself! ukposts.info/have/v-deo/hpqWia5_p3qLqqs.html&lc=UgxR1bm7hIBaTvzktqx4AaABAg
@thomashart22 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
When I die in Celeste I'm frustrrated with myself, not the game. It never felt like the game cheated me. All of my deaths felt like they were my own fault. This video gracefully explains why that is.
@gibson7392 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I can't believe you put all this work into one video. This is why I look forward to everything you put out. Very well done, taught me a lot about the nature of designing 2D platformers.
@bennieblanks5129 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Celeste's precision controls and puzzle-esque level design result in what is arguably the finest platformer ever developed. If you haven't played it, you owe it to yourself to do so. It really is that good.
@TheGauges420 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Absolutely. I bought it on my Ps4 first, then just had to own it on Switch and now I want it on PC as well. Love it so much.
@stephenahern 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Still waiting for my limited run switch edition to ship, lol.
@MystFox1314 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I want it
@jakubmadron7776 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Not only this but the story, atmosphere, music, characters and philosophy. This game is great on so many levels.
@disabster 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
After beating every level at least 3 times (painfully so) I can agree.
@codinginflow 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I have to try out Celeste
@wit2817 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
try it right now, this moment.
@exigency2231 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Right now. I adore this game, play it.
@ps2752 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
its 8 dollars rn on steam sale get it
@Alex-fu3mi 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
itβs only 5 bucks on the Nintendo eshop right now!
@harishrahman9094 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@ps2752 8$is a lot for a shit game like this
@ZMashXA 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Celeste is a true masterpiece, nothing more to say
@pallingtontheshrike6374 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
3:00 "Madeline is slow" **laughing in TASBOT**
@maxwellh.4569 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Ikr
@pizzacookie9382 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Can you please do a hollow knight video explaining how to make such a good atmosphere ? everything in the game from the controls to the music to visuals works together in such an elegant way to produce the fallen kingdom of hallownest , I would love if you could talk about how it is really done !
@smirk7724 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This would be the Holy Grail of videos
@enderspirit5238 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Higher beings, these words are for you alone. Yes please
@nb9396 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Oh yes please
@silkworm2595 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Atmosphere is really hard to talk about. It's a necessarily personal feeling and I feel the conversation it would spark would be more interesting than the video itself. Is that a bad thing? Anyway for whatever it's worth I think good atmosphere comes from a combination of mystery and reason to care about that mystery. This creates an overall, general intrigue for the world in the player as they explore. The ways you interact with/discover parts of the world should be believable and natural too. Not just barely related text on loading screens. Give some tangible initiative to the player and bring out their willing to learn.
@Atypical-Abbie 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
One could do 10 videos on the game!
@itisbeam Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I am SO excited for Earthblade, I have a lot of faith in these devs
@Trianull 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
1:36 "An A Press actually has three parts to it."
@legoboy7107 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
"But first, we need to talk about parallel universes."
@the0mini0prutt 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
TJ ββββββHENRYβββββ Yoshi
@TheSektorz 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
There's something awesome about seeing such young game designers. To be fair though, a lot of great games were made by young people, it just isn't obvious. A game I researched recently is The Adventures of Batman and Robin on the SEGA Genesis from 1994 - a technically impressive, awesome game. Turns out, alot of the people involved were in their early 20's, and did such an incredible job making a game the difficult way - in assembly. So yeah, it's fascinating, some people excel fast. I'm in my LATE 20's and will be releasing a game which [I think] is fun, but one thing new game devs like me could really use is guidance with marketing and distributing a game properly so it reaches people. If you can focus an episode on that, maybe interview a few publishers, that'd be great.
@apullcan 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
what I love about these dudes is that they seem to really understand what makes a fun game. especially during the bit when they talk about when you jump before hitting the ground, it becomes clear that they're huge fans of platformers.
@Stroggoii 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Check out Fightin' Rage. It's the best Beat 'Em Up since 1994 and it was done by one kid from Uruguay. And like you say, it's one flaw is almost nobody knows it exists.
@LeonserGT 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
You do watch GDC lectures as well, right? There was quite a few great talks regarding that topic.
@SamGarcia 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
check out Tim Ruswick here on UKposts for game marketing stuff.
@jacio9 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
If you go on Matt's website, you can see that they've been developing games for 15 years, which is crazy An Untitled Story was my first game of theirs, and it's honestly a super impressive metroidvania for someone that young to have made alone
@uno23sleep 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Shoutout to N+! I used to play that game and I always felt that it never got its spotlight!π
@FabioBrachtPlus 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
N++ is by far the best value proposition on Switch. Although it isn't *better* than the likes of Celeste or Hollow Knight, it's still an incredible game and almost infinite for such a low price. Highly recommended. I bought it like a year ago and every once in a while I "remember" about it, and there's always new stages to beat.
@FabioBrachtPlus 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@CeleryMan666 Wow. Just wow.
@candyman851 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@CeleryMan666 I won't criticize your opinion on the game, but bringing up the developer's level of professional education is just asinine. You can make a good game with pretty basic programming experience nowadays with all the feature-rich IDEs out there, so whether they got a BS in Comp. Sci. or self-taught themselves or whatever is pretty much irrelevant. Besides that, the game wouldn't have such tight controls without someone proficient at software development. The physics feel great, the movement is on point, the buffer that Mark explained is well implemented without feeling intrusive, and all that without a sign of bugginess.
@Jako3334074 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Someone who actually has a CS education would know that it's fine to have messy code if maintainability and readability are not as important as getting it done quickly, when say, it's a video game meant to be developed in a year or so by only a couple developers, which doesn't need to be maintained for a decade. (besides, none of this matters to the player) That sort of deal is pretty common when making video games, the other end of the spectrum is the people who never finish their project because they're too busy optimizing and refactoring instead of finishing their thing. Can always do refactoring later, if you really need to. as for the rest more levels - quality over quantity runs better - non-factor unless your computer is from a decade ago more skill involved - N series only has running and jumping (no dash, infinite walljumping is kind of like climbing); besides that, even with things like fall damage, multiple different enemy types, N is still the (relatively) easier game, in my opinion. Level design is more like that of standard platformers, usually isn't spike covered walls everywhere. Physics are also more forgiving imo. 8 bit platformer - N is just a shitty flash game why should i play it /s note: I think both are pretty good games other note: Actual discussions can be had if you don't fling shit for no reason
@TheMrFarmerJoe9 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@CeleryMan666 "intelligent discussion". lol okay π
@Komeii 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Just reached the top of the mountain and completed first 7 chapters. 10 hours and 2400 deaths. loved every second of it
@breefeez 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Content like this astounds me. I'm so thankful for the effort and quality that makes it feel worth the watch. Great job man.
@Blackthornprod 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Fantastic episode Mark :) ! And so well put together, there's such a great feel/juice about them ;D And yeah, really looking foward to the game jam this week end !
@florianplack2973 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thanks for the reminder! I don't wanna miss your video π
@muhamedgalal3093 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I am also in the jam NOA
@stellanovaluna 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Love the piano riff from Celeste and the timing with the music in the background (also from Celeste)
@Allen2142 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Love the dev interview! Really good addition to your own insights for the video. I hope more devs respond in a like fashion! Also, you get a "best voice" award.
@darobi 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Great video! 9:47 "Coyote time" is also a mechanic in the Donkey Kong Country series of games too. You can actually use the forward rolling attack and then a jump for maximum speed and distance.
@IrfanArif18 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I love the melodic transitions at 4:24 and 9:24. And also the simple piano melody sound effects for the popping texts at 5:16 and 7:45. They blend really well with the Celeste OST used for the background music. Brilliant!
@GetDaved 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Really important thing to note about Madeline's jump in Celeste: when falling she has an incredibly low terminal velocity and an incredibly high acceleration (several times greater than what normal gravity would be), which is roughly analogous to the curve she has for horizontal movement on the ground. At most distances this works out to a decent approximation of reality despite very different physics rules, but in terms of game control it gives the player a more consistent feel since she tends to stay at known velocities. One other coding note: In an engine like Unity if you use a Character Controller rather than a RigidBody for your main character then you basically will be set up to code exactly the same way they were for Celeste. Character Controllers need the Physics manually applied to you get that laser-tight control just like Matt an Noel had.
@connorconnor2421 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
You can also hold down to spaghettify Madeline
@stellanovaluna 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@ConnerConner lol I laughed the first time I did this, and I always appreciate a good astronomy reference
@stellanovaluna 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thx dude! Very helpful!
@GetDaved 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@connorconnor2421 Yep, and that bumps up her terminal velocity a little bit.
@mathieu3318 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
pretty sure madelaine is a dude
@billmalcolm4291 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Fun fact: This is the very first time I've ever had a mental picture of what a UKpostsr looks like that matches fairly close to what they actually look like. Hey there, handsome!
@horntx 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
am I blind? the only faces I saw in this were the faces of the game devs.
@TheEliteJohan 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@horntx 16:45
@howtokillapig 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
He looks EXACTLY how I pictured and youβre right they never do!
@ThibautGiordano 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
1:12 Run 3:35 Jump 6:30 Climb 7:03 Dash 8:44 Feedbacks
@artemis1123 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I just love how much personality they could fit in this tiny little sprite. She bounces when she hits the ground, her her moves realistically, her run looks surprisingly well animated. Itβs beautiful
@clink3582 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
9:00 another thing that makes it feel so good is the hd rumble on if you're playing on Switch. One time i turned my rumble off and i felt like my controller wasn't working
@jay-tbl 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Seconded, I felt the rumble was a little too much and I had to turn it down in the settings, but I really likes being able to feel surfaces in the game by feeling the rumbling of the controllers
@goat6354 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Feels great on all types of controllers
@Witchy_Hoo 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@jay-tbl I agree! I like the rumbling effect, but I had to turn it down to 50% because 100% was a bit too much for me.
@daylinhesford3116 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
As much as I like the rumble. If you have it on 100% for over and hour you start to feel numb and can't move your fingers
@HeyJesseJ 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Those first music notes at the beginning....only 2 seconds into the video, and it feels like home. Thank you. ππΌ
@_GTX1650 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
"Why does it feel so good to play Celeste?" Me on more than 5000 deaths: wait it does???
@mrsmilee 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
the music you are playing the background of this video i could just listen to forever, it's the thing that hooked me. The sound design in general really adds to the game. That and the single screen nature of most of the levels gave it that just one more go feeling that's essential.
@elllieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Lena Raine's music is so good
@stellanovaluna 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@Danny IKR?!
@afroarchitect2446 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Another really great video mark. I'm always thoroughly impressed with your videos and especially your editing. These vids always have a great flow and are informative.
@smactork 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO!! Excellent stuff, Mark.
@internisus 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Incredible analysis. Also, your graphics/effects work is amazing; so clean and slick.
@gabrielprates1691 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This video was incredibly well done. Content, form, everything. Thanks for that, I'm glad I can still find this videos of this level of quality on UKposts.
@Brawph 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This is awesome, shared to a friend that's working on a platformer with Celeste as a key point of inspiration! (Also I think Coyote time is an old term since my former professor used to talk about it and he worked on things as far back as Eternal Darkness. I remember him saying it was a major Feature of some Crash Bandicoot games so maybe there's some origin there?)
@QXDme 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The best (or maybe just most extreme) example I'm aware of is in the Maximo games. In those it plays an animation after you go over the edge, but you can still jump at ANY point after that. Not only that, but the optimal jump time is after the animation plays, so maximising jumps becomes about timing rather than about trying to guess how well the collision geometry matches the visual geometry.
@Brawph 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@QXDme Well in that case it just sounds like an air jump like Super Smash Bros. just allowing you to jump any time you're in the air -- rather than coyote time which is more about being an extra timing allowance for late button presses. If it works forever then it's not just a game that allows jumps in midair, isn't it?
@QXDme 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@Brawph Yeah, I think it's like smash bros (I'm not familiar enough to remember exactly how that works off the top of my head). But I think the main difference is that Maximo is actually a platform game where you are often trying to maximise jump length, they've just shifted the optimal jump time from before you reach the edge to after. It may not technically count as Coyote time, but it serves the same purpose. And I personally prefer the Maximo (or Smash if you like) option of having the cue a specific amount of time before the optimal jump time, rather than having some extra leeway but still having to judge where the platform edge is by sight.
@Brawph 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@QXDme Yeah that makes sense! Seems like a cool system, hopefully the difficulty doesn't get too out of hand on how long you have to wait to jump!
@godofdeath8785 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@Brawph oh and what name of this platformer? I so much would have same fair, challenge and fun game like Celeste
@duchi882 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
*I'm a simple man* If Game Maker's Toolkit praises a game I'm playing it
@rickybloss8537 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Celeste is the best platformer I've ever played definitely give it a shot
@ty_sylicus 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I played Snakebird due to this.
@matheuscastello6554 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Ty Sylicus me too, and snakebird is one of the best puzzlers ive ever played, so im definitely giving celeste a shot too haha
@leobuoye2615 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Celeste was a great playthrough. Can't recommend it enough
@kontrol42 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
It has some of the best tracks that I've ever heard in video games.
@brutusmagnuson315 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The reason coyote time feels so intuitive is that if youβre judging from surface to surface in real life, you kick off the ledge, as opposed to stopping at the edge and hopping. As someone whoβs done parkour, it makes sense to me.
@KlareAudio 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I really appreciated not only the way you edited the video to fit the celeste theme; but also the sound design! All the transition sounds fit the celeste soundscape. Great job & attention to detail - really made me happy
@jrm3170 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Only issue I had with Celeste is that, when dashing diagonally, I'll sometimes end up going straight up or to the side instead. Felt like the area the control stick had to be pointing to count as a diagonal dash was too slim.
@Megacooltommydee 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I think that has more to do with the controller itself than the game. I've had countless deaths attributed to my Joy-Con's tiny sticks being ever so slightly off where it's supposed to be.
@candorzofain8682 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I haven't confirmed this, but many platformers have a larger area for diagonals than cardinal directions. I know for me, the Switch Pro controller has plenty of ghost inputs which screw up my gameplay.
@summerycast7936 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I had the same issues, especially when you have to chain multiple diagonal dashes. Thank god there are no lives in this game, and the time it takes to restart a stage is not only smooth but quick too.
@buttonasas 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The feathers are really hard on keyboard, though. I feel like never touching those feathers agsin after completing a bunch of stuff :D
@thehiddenninja3428 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Meanwhile, I'm here playing Celeste on a laptop with arrow keys. It's sweet. And then I complete the game and see Variants to allow for 360 degree dashing, and I'm dissappointed that I'm limited by the very same arrow keys.
@beepboprobotsnot3748 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
It's very interesting how even though the game is intentionally difficult, it still gives you extra help (like Coyote Time).
@butt317 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I think coyote time is actually a fairly standard thing in fast paced platformers
@etiennemasse891 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I don't think i've had a better emotional connection with a video game π
@nathanhurt7666 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The only other video game I'd recommend purely on emotion is brothers a tale of two sons, but that one is almost entirely story and emotion and not much gameplay, whereas celeste has the emotions and the difficulty and the simplicity all woven so beautifully together
@eduardorpg64 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
You're videos are a fine treasure! Amazing editing, spot on explanation, and you even interviewed key people that made the game. Keep up the amazing work!
@SnaggletoothOriginal 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Finally we get to see a Celeste video fully in-depth! I love Celeste one of my favorites!
@ExtraAmpersand 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I will be forever grateful to the Celeste developers for the accessibility mode; with my disability I thought the tight, demanding controls would be too much for me. I didn't unlock all of the hard modes and b-sides but I was really happy that I got to experience such a wonderful game.
@fungalcactus8286 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Great to see a really substantive episode on this channel. The interview bits are a great addition. Also, this makes me want to replay Celeste.
@IndeverGames 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thank you for putting in the time to create these videos. Iβm finding them very useful on my own journey into indie development. Cheers, Ben
@DrJurdenPeterbergsteinlerwitz 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
As an (VERY) amateur game developer (if you can even call me that) I am happy to see I have created similar player-friendly mechanics, such as the movement, hit-boxes and I actually did the exact same thing with the spike traps and their hitboxes. Glad to see the more experienced does the same. For example (Thanks to Shaun Spalding) I added a brief moment where the player can jump if you step off an edge, as it makes the game 'feel' more fair to the player. I always use these types of games (Celeste/Indie games) as a huge inspiration, because it is really an effort to fully complete a game and release it. Hats off to that. EDIT: Oh! Also, amazing video as always!
@emptystring6833 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Damn the production quality on this is spot on. The transitions, sound effects and screen elements are just as tweaked and perfect as Madeline's movement seems to be ;). As a part time editor myself I appreciate every hour you had to put into this video to be able to deliver this sort of quality. Props to you!
@stellanovaluna 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yes
@nicktheritter 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
One of your best videos. Love this kind of deep dive and discussion with the devs. Excellent work!
@Haivogel 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This video was so well made and researched, it more than earned my sub!
@Julia-lg8dt 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I bought the game solely because of this channel and I don't regret it one bit
@jacobshirley3457 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I got the game during a free week on the Epic Games Store, and played it solely because of this channel. Same.
@ashenkster69 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
There was an interview with a developer from the makers of Dead Cells and they called Coyote Time mechanic a "Just in Time" jump. This was coined from Castlevania's developer when he was playing their game at the time. It also refers to other systems in the game that make it more forgiving to complete actions like making a long jump or running over uneven terrain.
@RobotPlaysGames 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Love-love-LOVED this video. I appreciate and enjoy all of your content, but these micro examinations of gameplay are so helpful for aspiring game makers.
@THEspindoctor84 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I just started watching this channel after recently getting into game development. This is the second video I've watched, and WOW! They are very very high quality, they are very pleasant to watch and very informative. I'll be watching more!
@nebulae5236 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
If you want to see how far the mechanics of this game can be pushed, hereβs some fun options! A TAS doing chapter 9: farewell in under 4 minutes: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/l3aigp2fm2mVrmQ.html The game pushed to its limit: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/bKmraZqAbJiBmKM.html The most precise Celeste gets: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/cGGpemunb4OBroE.html or ukposts.info/have/v-deo/l2V6mZijpZBhtmQ.html The most βwhat the hell how is this possibleβ: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/h3yqaKp_ppiZt2w.html The most βwhat the hell what is even happeningβ: ukposts.info/have/v-deo/eWBjrI-xiIemwH0.html or ukposts.info/have/v-deo/o2h1mpuKe4N_mXk.html And, of course, the Celeste WR: www.speedrun.com/celeste Feel free to ask any other questions you may have, Iβd love to explain/show stuff about this amazing game!
@PrincessFelicie 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I have spoken at length to friends about how damn hard yet somehow forgiving Celeste is. I'm so glad you have used the exact same words. The hitboxes, jump timings, potential routes, everything is skewed heavily in the player's favor, and yet the game manages to be extremely difficult despite that - all the difficulty is integrally in the level design. Sometimes playing Celeste can feel closer to perfectly memorizing thn playing a piano melody than to going through a platformer, and that just works beautifully with the art and music design, as well as the narrative theme of perseverance.
@TheEchoTheory 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Subbed. Never had someone explain mechanics, and why those mechanics translate to enjoyable gameplay in such an engaging way - kudos!
@crazyroundman7049 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I really appreciate your dedication to research. You've just earned a new sub! Great vid dude!
@Ralathar44 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
"The ghost jump" also known as "coyote time" where you can jump a few frames after leaving a platform is pretty standard in platforms and has been around for MANY years, IIRC it was in the very first Mario game even. Because it just feels bad to miss your jump off of a platform by a few frames. Even if it's definitely your fault, it feels like you are fighting the controls instead of the jumping puzzle. I feel like I see constant articles about this these days. It feels weird considering how long that little trick has been around.
@Lumpfriend 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yeah I thought it was weird he didn't mention that that's a standard asset of platformers too. Although it's probably more noticeable in Celeste than in many other games
@cearaj405 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I think it was just mentioned because many new devs miss this trick, along with the one about jumping a bit before getting on the ground
@user-ky9qn4pg3w 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I hate coyote time. Feels like game treats you like a kid. I always notice when that happens and go like wtf why did my character jump, it was clearly off the ledge.
@bsylar 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This video is really amazing, from the research to the interview, and awesome editing. But I'm a little bit disappointed that the music didn't get any mention. If the title of the video is why Celeste feels so good to play, you really have to credit Lena Raine's work on the soundtrack. The music is what makes the game so emotionally fulfilling. Even this video itself is so pleasant to watch because of the background music. Excellent video nonetheless!
@liam_iam 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
You outdid yourself with this video Mark. Really well paced and interesting video with a lot of different perspectives on the game. I love the devs' comment about content that doesn't make it into the game still being valuable as 'progress' towards the end goal. Knowing what does and doesn't work is what makes you an expert at your craft.
@lucasferes3519 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Great job man!! This video got me hooked it didn't feel like 17 minutes, seriously. I love platformers and i've been away from these type of games since i dropped consoles in favor of PC. But after i got the Nintendo Switch, i started to play them again and oh boy, i didn't know i missed them this much! Congrats to the devs, that's how it should be, they really care and put effort in the making of the game β€οΈ
@Readysetheal 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Holy shit! Enby representation without being mocked!
@vacantile 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
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@exigency2231 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
What does this mean? Madeline isnβt non binary. Both she and Maddy Thorson are trans women.
@azumarill964 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@exigency2231 So Matt is a deadname? Edit, already investigated about the topic, Maddy Thorson (previously Matt) is non binary, despite their name being femenine.
@codertommy6883 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@exigency2231 did you even read the pinned comment
@liraco_mx 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I remember discovering "coyote time" way back in DKC1 for the SNES, where you could roll off a ledge and still jump afterward. It felt like it unlocked a whole new level of movement for the game. Makes me wonder what other games added cheats like this in early platformers.
@Tyveris 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Your work is always impressive and enlightening. Thanks for the great videos!
@zvejra 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Absolutely amazing video. Thank you for your work, man!
@DrCaesarMD 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
When I bought and played Celeste in Janurary, it basically instantly become one of my favorite games of all time. Not only did I enjoy and relate to the narrative about Madeline's anxiety, but the gameplay was so refined and sharp, and the game is chock full of content. It is in my opinion, an example of an ideal game that all other games should strive to be like in terms of quality.
@vladimirgonzalez9791 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Another great video, thank you for sharing. Any chance we'll get a video about Dandara?
@feather3352 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Vladimir Gonzalez Daryl Talks Games made one on it . Itβs a similar channel to GMTK and I recommend it itβs pretty good
@SnutiHQ 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Awesome how in depth this was, so much to learn from these guys! πͺ
@Henralen 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I love Celeste so much. That game means a lot to me. Its awesome to see how it was made.
@Kaeporo 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Really solid video. You put a ton of effort into this one and it shows. On a side note - you've alluded to Rain World in a few videos now. Any chance you'll cover it in more detail at some point? That game has a lot of unique and complex design choices.
@yousifito6240 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
oh i would love that! thereβs so much to talk about in Rain World - the beautiful open world, the simple controls, the mysteriousness, the sound design, and most importantly the *terror* that comes when discovering a new creature. Thereβs no game like it.
@JuanManuelTastzian 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Mark, this video left me speechless. You're improving a lot with each new video, and honestly, I can't express how much I enjoyed this one. I'm so glad I've subscribed to your channel long ago. Please, keep up this amazing work and we will surely stay with you. Much love.
@NDPianoCovers 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I recently discovered your channel. Great work, perfect speech flow, interesting topics. Keep going!
@DawnosaurDev 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I was just playing Celeste aswell Great timing!
@yokilewis4894 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Me too. Just put down the game because one room is too hard, and find this new video.
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